Ok sorry but what a sad pathetic waste of money....
They might as well ask China for one of theirs, lord knows they have quite a few of them, never been used and some are completed.
I've lost count of the installations I've downgraded, legally and not so much.
& isn't XP2 it's Vista II and M$ still hasn't learned from the Win8 Installation I've been toying with.
It's not the final product granted, but it's not what I was hoping for.
Until they go back to straight forward interfaces instead of the Fancy Tinker Toy for Adults, I'll pass and do Linux when my XP PC's can no longer function on the new hardware. There's also a illusion that there aren't drivers around for many new devices, look around, most new devices still have XPsp2-3 drivers from the chipset makers or the OEM if you look around and have the time.
Those who know how still do but are considered anti-social and anti-technological, which is ridiculous.
The things people post of themselves online is incredible.
Do we even know that these guys are lulz ?
All these efforts seem to be aimed at ferreting out people who would join these causes.
There is no centralized group flying these banners (except for lulz one would think).
But how do you authenticate identity on anonymous hackers ?
They obviously don't understand even the elementals of coding.
Now if they really want to get these guys there are better ways of doing it.
But trying to stop Axe murderers by taking them away from all Firemen is just retarded.
What is it with these people ?
Do they spend all day looking for things to tax ?
This would be a nightmare to regulate anyways and yes, drive business away.
I long for the old Internet before the vendors and spammers got hip to its ways.
Now all we have are ISP and Anti Viral companies to bent on profit to actually
stop Trojans, Viruses and spam dead in their tracks. The world is a sad stupid place.
Computer aren't infallible, period.
Trust me, after twenty seven years in IT/IM I can say that Data can be used to prove almost anything.
And if the tech isn't solid, which it never truly is, so many errors will crop up and make it impossible to defend against.
This is more 1984 big brother nonsense and must be stopped. Just as bad as having state cameras watching your kids in your home because they keep breaking the law (UK).
All BS anyways, my speed on Rogers is great, my Bandwidth sucks.
Open more than a few concurrent connections and the wife gets a disco on WoW, legit torrent traffic
drops to 0 and I'm forced to reset my Modem and router...and we only get 90Gigs/Month.
Used to be you could do anything on the net, now it's molasses.
You are so right............Doomed to fail.
Who thinks up this nonsense anyways ?
It's not as if we're two thousand people living in a small community, we're talking Nation, heck, continent wide...
I don't care for information this is forced on me, I don't care. I don't have it now, I don't need or miss it.
A Return to the Dark Ages and self censorship.... How long until these groups return to the "If we don't acknowledge it, it don't exist" views ? Oh, it's like that already isn't it...mmmk.
Not very well thought out, and will end badly for all... The traffic that will be generated, as you said, will affect many more than just the desired target, we're all on the same network after all...well almost.
Agreed, but watch them try to implement some cheap bastardized version....
What you propose would be needed, the reality is that no perfect system ever comes online, they always cut corners and hope for the best.
This is OUR only "free" avenue, if we don't fight for it, we deserve to have it reduced
to a Phone/TV/Advertising service.
Couldn't agree more... Downloaded those soundwaves a few years ago just to see, the story is pure baloney. They should concentrate on those kids that are dumb enough to smoke spices and snort drano....not that Darwin won't get them in the end.
Save a child now (that is likely to try these things) See the same individual as an Adult take two or three others down with him...
I always considered the fact of slow mutation (or evilution) explaning why
the egg came first, depending what animal we were speaking about.
The Egg came first, but what came out wasn't a chicken, not for a long time...
Now if you asked what came first, the XenoAnimal or the Egg, things might be different...
Is there anything Lawyers won't try ?
I just about spewed out all of my coffee laughing when I read this story...
Arrogance and power, a bad mix indeed, but I think this time it's obvious to all
that this attempt will go nowhere...
No Upgrades, six PC's on XP SP2.... Norton Biz AV, SpyBot, ZA, HOSTS file, PestPatrol, Acronis just in case, Switch+Router.... always been safe, allways will be.
In a communist State (there's never really been one that actually met the standard to be called that) there wouldn't BE a FedEx, UPS or DHL. Your point is moot.
You are allowed your own opinions, just not your own Facts. As far as price and performance, XP still rules, unless you opted for SP3.
You can blather on about security all you want, but with a good firewall, AV and restore solution, the point is moot. Any User will kaybosh a PC with bad habits, we'll never get away from that. You can mitigate it, but never really win.
Vista was a total failure. The upgrade path to Win7 will require new PC's, period. Doing anything else your Clients will be at your cubicle complaining of speed and freezing issues.
Yes I have worked for MS Support...and Digital in the bad old days.... Helping the PC market thrive by upgrading every three years is fine for Corporations, but for Johnny and Mary, having a good tech friend that can teach them good habits is much more agreable then sending them to Futureshop to get fleeced once again, every three years.
Having said that, Apps and games will soon REQUIRE Winblows 7. Wait around a bit, Save up, and get that new PC with Win7...unless 8 is out by then... (July 2011 right ? )
Information wants to be free. Most of what the "rags" offer nowadays is Biased propaganda. This is also true of their web counteparts...who needs'em.... The second news sources becomes pay to view other sources will replace them.
We need the Patent office to step in and claim prior art and make it an open patent. No winners or losers....
If we're truly interested in development and not profits we'll.... Oh who am i kidding....they could care less about the tech, it's all about the pentiums....
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Ok sorry but what a sad pathetic waste of money.... They might as well ask China for one of theirs, lord knows they have quite a few of them, never been used and some are completed.
I can see a lot of us jumping in, Bell and Rogers should take note.
I've lost count of the installations I've downgraded, legally and not so much. & isn't XP2 it's Vista II and M$ still hasn't learned from the Win8 Installation I've been toying with. It's not the final product granted, but it's not what I was hoping for. Until they go back to straight forward interfaces instead of the Fancy Tinker Toy for Adults, I'll pass and do Linux when my XP PC's can no longer function on the new hardware. There's also a illusion that there aren't drivers around for many new devices, look around, most new devices still have XPsp2-3 drivers from the chipset makers or the OEM if you look around and have the time.
I can't see where the hacker begins and ends.... They've put out so much junk (as usual) it's silly.
Those who know how still do but are considered anti-social and anti-technological, which is ridiculous. The things people post of themselves online is incredible.
Do we even know that these guys are lulz ? All these efforts seem to be aimed at ferreting out people who would join these causes. There is no centralized group flying these banners (except for lulz one would think). But how do you authenticate identity on anonymous hackers ?
When will we stop putting up with all this prior art nonsense. We'll be sued for breathing methods and the way we click our mouse next.
They obviously don't understand even the elementals of coding. Now if they really want to get these guys there are better ways of doing it. But trying to stop Axe murderers by taking them away from all Firemen is just retarded.
Well said !
What is it with these people ? Do they spend all day looking for things to tax ? This would be a nightmare to regulate anyways and yes, drive business away. I long for the old Internet before the vendors and spammers got hip to its ways. Now all we have are ISP and Anti Viral companies to bent on profit to actually stop Trojans, Viruses and spam dead in their tracks. The world is a sad stupid place.
Computer aren't infallible, period. Trust me, after twenty seven years in IT/IM I can say that Data can be used to prove almost anything. And if the tech isn't solid, which it never truly is, so many errors will crop up and make it impossible to defend against. This is more 1984 big brother nonsense and must be stopped. Just as bad as having state cameras watching your kids in your home because they keep breaking the law (UK).
All BS anyways, my speed on Rogers is great, my Bandwidth sucks. Open more than a few concurrent connections and the wife gets a disco on WoW, legit torrent traffic drops to 0 and I'm forced to reset my Modem and router...and we only get 90Gigs/Month. Used to be you could do anything on the net, now it's molasses.
You are so right............Doomed to fail. Who thinks up this nonsense anyways ? It's not as if we're two thousand people living in a small community, we're talking Nation, heck, continent wide... I don't care for information this is forced on me, I don't care. I don't have it now, I don't need or miss it.
No XP support ? Good luck with that......
Well it's no longer supported right ?
Still, not a good move....
A Return to the Dark Ages and self censorship....
How long until these groups return to the "If we don't acknowledge it, it don't exist" views ?
Oh, it's like that already isn't it...mmmk.
Not very well thought out, and will end badly for all...
The traffic that will be generated, as you said, will affect many more than
just the desired target, we're all on the same network after all...well almost.
Agreed, but watch them try to implement some cheap bastardized version.... What you propose would be needed, the reality is that no perfect system ever comes online, they always cut corners and hope for the best. This is OUR only "free" avenue, if we don't fight for it, we deserve to have it reduced to a Phone/TV/Advertising service.
Couldn't agree more...
Downloaded those soundwaves a few years ago just to see, the story is pure baloney.
They should concentrate on those kids that are dumb enough to smoke spices
and snort drano....not that Darwin won't get them in the end.
Save a child now (that is likely to try these things)
See the same individual as an Adult take two or three others down with him...
I always considered the fact of slow mutation (or evilution) explaning why the egg came first, depending what animal we were speaking about. The Egg came first, but what came out wasn't a chicken, not for a long time... Now if you asked what came first, the XenoAnimal or the Egg, things might be different...
Is there anything Lawyers won't try ? I just about spewed out all of my coffee laughing when I read this story... Arrogance and power, a bad mix indeed, but I think this time it's obvious to all that this attempt will go nowhere...
No Upgrades, six PC's on XP SP2....
Norton Biz AV, SpyBot, ZA, HOSTS file, PestPatrol, Acronis just in case, Switch+Router....
always been safe, allways will be.
In a communist State (there's never really been one that actually met the standard to be called that) there wouldn't BE a FedEx, UPS or DHL. Your point is moot.
You are allowed your own opinions, just not your own Facts.
As far as price and performance, XP still rules, unless you opted for SP3.
You can blather on about security all you want, but with a good firewall, AV and restore
solution, the point is moot. Any User will kaybosh a PC with bad habits, we'll never get away from that. You can mitigate it, but never really win.
Vista was a total failure. The upgrade path to Win7 will require new PC's, period.
Doing anything else your Clients will be at your cubicle complaining of speed and
freezing issues.
Yes I have worked for MS Support...and Digital in the bad old days....
Helping the PC market thrive by upgrading every three years is fine for Corporations, but
for Johnny and Mary, having a good tech friend that can teach them good habits is much more
agreable then sending them to Futureshop to get fleeced once again, every three years.
Having said that, Apps and games will soon REQUIRE Winblows 7.
Wait around a bit, Save up, and get that new PC with Win7...unless 8 is out by then...
(July 2011 right ? )
Information wants to be free.
Most of what the "rags" offer nowadays is Biased propaganda.
This is also true of their web counteparts...who needs'em....
The second news sources becomes pay to view other sources will replace them.
We need the Patent office to step in and claim prior art and make
it an open patent. No winners or losers....
If we're truly interested in development and not profits we'll....
Oh who am i kidding....they could care less about the tech, it's all about the pentiums....