Anything else is blowing smoke.
It may be inferior to US/JAP PS3, how HOW inferior, the US machine plays close to 100% (it was 98% but many things were fixed in the 1.5 firmware).
If the compatability initially drops to say 80%, and improves over time to say 90%, i don't think thats too bad. It's certainly offset by the fact I am getting a rev2 model, with for sure other hardware tweaks to improve reliability, based on the US beta test programe..
As for the price, people forget, the US price does not include any sales taxes or local taxes, the UK, and EU prices do include all taxes... Whilst it's still more expensive, it's 17.5% less than it was... Plus, EU gets 1Yr warranty minimum on all new purchases, I think the US is 90 days.. I would imagine this also has a bearing...
OK, your obviosly an idiot, so I will explain..
PS2 is a Sony product, PS3 is also a Sony product.
If you add the numbers together, Sony consoles outsold everything else.
Now some people will say this in bad. I however think this is smart. Sony can compete at the low end, with the WII, and the High end with the 360, and based on these numbers, it is doing pretty well.
The other benefit, ofcourse, is that PS2 owners today, are very likely to be PS3 owners when the price drops, due it's near 100% backwards compatabiliy.
With the European launch in 1 months time, the PS3 sales will jump further, as there are some kick-ass titles for the EU lauch, which will bolster US and Jap console sales.
Persistent Inability to Keep Units On the Shelf... Could also mean that Nintendo are having production problems... Perhaps they have run out of GameCube circuit boards rescued from the trash... LOL...
I really cant belive how many fanboy posts there are here. I have a PS3 on pre-order, I have no problems with the price, as it's got a very well reviewed Blu-Ray player.
As for Blu-Ray costing 2x to 3x the price of DVD's Total BS..
Casino Royale:
DVD: http://www.sendit.com/video/item/7001000131804
Blu-Ray: http://www.sendit.com/video/item/7001000131846
Exact same price. The Blu-Ray is 50GB AVC encoded..
Now of course, it's possible all of a sudden. What gives? The truth was it was always possible, and PS3 was doing it, Microsoft however lied, as they did not have the capability at the time..
I feel sorry for the puppets that belive anything that Microsoft says, in particular the lying b1tches at the gaming division...
Go back and read the article, the 360 version does the same trick of data duplication. WHilst you are at it, do some reading up on CLV and CAV and the differences.
Drive speeds and data transfer rates between DVD and Blu-Ray as not as Blu and White as Microsoft would like you to believe....
Reality is, the 12x DVD speed (Only on single layer disks, from what I can tell), is CLV, so the data transfer at best, is 16MBytes/Sec, but at worst on the outer edge of the disk, it's more like 6MBytes/Sec. Blu-Ray is a constant 9MBytes/Sec across the entire disc surface.
It's also been commented on here, that the PS3 costing $500 will outperform a PC costing the same price, once you factor in CPU, Motherboard, Memory and OS, your graphics card budget would be about $100.
To get something to look better than the PS3 playing Oblvion (for example) or KillZone, would take a $450 graphics card alone...
The bottom line is:
Reports of the PS3 being hard to develop for are untrue (this proves it)
Reports of the Blu-Ray being slower than the 360's DVD drive are also untrue (this also proves it).
There are plenty of rabid xbox fanboys here trying to find fault with this news, and all they can come up with, it's been in development for an extra year, so will be better, or the Xbox360 will get these enhancements in the update soon (unfounded rumour).
YDL does take advantage of the SPE's, and applications can also, if they are programmed to.
To the OP, PS3's are $500, and allow you to still play PS3 games, so yes you are a troll, goodbye...
Frankly, I am sick of the fanboys than hang out here.
Last year they were ranting about Sony closed formats, yadayada, they no have a PS3 than boots Linux, are they happy? Nope, they complain that access to the GPU is restricted, people need to be grateful for the wonderful gift Sony have given us, with the PS3.
Seems they are posting this crap all over the net, despite everyone knowing there is no evidence yet to back these numbers up. But key, it makes it look like the PS3 is in last place, so lets post it...
Why has everyone jumped on the Hate Sony bandwagon, despite the PS3 being by far the best console of this generation?
Based on the engineering skills I have seen, it will be badly welded baked bean cans, and some dodgy wiring, perhaps an old 386 with the side casing missing at an Internet Cafe in Bangalore, as the mission control centre.
Sony won't kill HD-DVD, the HD-DVD camp have already taken care of that, by the restricted studio support, lower storage space, and so far, single supplier hardware...
You want it both ways. In UK, and I think in mainland western Europe (EU countries), everything has a 12 month warranty, if it fails in the 1st 12 months, then you get a free repair/replacement.
In virtually everywhere else in thr world, it's 3 months or less.
Do you expect this level of consumer protection for free? Consoles cost more here, because:
a) our goverments impose taxes on these type of goods
b) the manufacturers factor in failure rates, and the length of warranty periods.
That is why goods (not just PS3) cost more in Europe than the US.
The comment about the 2SKU's being it harder for developers to target a SINGLE stable platform, is not really fair, as Sony have cut features from the basic that don't matter to developers. Having everything including the basic units equiped with HDD and Blu-Ray was the most sensible decision Sony made. They have stuck with this decision all the way.
It would have been very easy to equip the high end unit with Blu-Ray, and the Lo-End with DVD, but they have resisted doing things the "Microsoft Way", after seeing the damage not including a HDD in the basic model has done.
Personally, as a European, who has a PS3 on order, whilst I am annoyed at Sony for treating us (yet again) as 3rd class citizens, I am not cancelling my PS3 order for 2 reasons.
1/ By the time it does ship, there will be a massive queue of killer launch titles.
2/ The system will be more mature.
3/ It will still be a serious kick-ass console/movie/media centre.
I can easilly resist the temptation to buy a XBox360 or Wii (if that makes it's Nov debut), as I still have faith that Sony will deliver.
Highest end cable that the XBox360 supports. But there is no DV output from a XBox360, so I don;t see your point.
The PS3 WILL come with analogue cables, like your beloved XBox360.
Personally, I have no problem paying $10 for HDMI cable, when I need one.
It matters not, the performance of Conroe speaks for itself. I don't care if it's on 180nm process:-) My E6600 is a speed demon to anything else I have built.
"AMD remains competitive with Intel".
Not sure where you got that from.
30% more power, 30% less heat from a Conroe compared to a AM2 chip. I put that down to the move to 65nm, something that AMD should also get when they move to the same process. However you imply that they will get more.
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Anything else is blowing smoke. It may be inferior to US/JAP PS3, how HOW inferior, the US machine plays close to 100% (it was 98% but many things were fixed in the 1.5 firmware). If the compatability initially drops to say 80%, and improves over time to say 90%, i don't think thats too bad. It's certainly offset by the fact I am getting a rev2 model, with for sure other hardware tweaks to improve reliability, based on the US beta test programe.. As for the price, people forget, the US price does not include any sales taxes or local taxes, the UK, and EU prices do include all taxes... Whilst it's still more expensive, it's 17.5% less than it was... Plus, EU gets 1Yr warranty minimum on all new purchases, I think the US is 90 days.. I would imagine this also has a bearing...
OK, your obviosly an idiot, so I will explain.. PS2 is a Sony product, PS3 is also a Sony product. If you add the numbers together, Sony consoles outsold everything else. Now some people will say this in bad. I however think this is smart. Sony can compete at the low end, with the WII, and the High end with the 360, and based on these numbers, it is doing pretty well. The other benefit, ofcourse, is that PS2 owners today, are very likely to be PS3 owners when the price drops, due it's near 100% backwards compatabiliy. With the European launch in 1 months time, the PS3 sales will jump further, as there are some kick-ass titles for the EU lauch, which will bolster US and Jap console sales.
Persistent Inability to Keep Units On the Shelf... Could also mean that Nintendo are having production problems... Perhaps they have run out of GameCube circuit boards rescued from the trash... LOL...
Despite what Fox News tells you, there is a whole world outside your trailer park. PS3 has yet to launch in Europe....
A player that costs more thsan buying a PS3 and a Toshiba HD-A1 together!!!
This will bomb bigger than the 360 HD-DVD add-on..
I really cant belive how many fanboy posts there are here. I have a PS3 on pre-order, I have no problems with the price, as it's got a very well reviewed Blu-Ray player. As for Blu-Ray costing 2x to 3x the price of DVD's Total BS.. Casino Royale: DVD: http://www.sendit.com/video/item/7001000131804 Blu-Ray: http://www.sendit.com/video/item/7001000131846 Exact same price. The Blu-Ray is 50GB AVC encoded..
They said 1080p was basically impossible..
3 -1080p-will-be-basically-impossible
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/22/xbox-exec-on-ps
Now of course, it's possible all of a sudden. What gives? The truth was it was always possible, and PS3 was doing it, Microsoft however lied, as they did not have the capability at the time..
I feel sorry for the puppets that belive anything that Microsoft says, in particular the lying b1tches at the gaming division...
Microsoft told us, that 1080p was basically impossible: http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/22/xbox-exec-on-ps3 -1080p-will-be-basically-impossible
Until of course, they can do it, then it is possible.. LOL. People actually take in this Microsoft spin and believe it as gospel...
Is this now time for Playstation owners to yawn, and comment about how 2004 Guitar Hero is..
If not, then that's surely hypocrisy from the Xbox owners who said the same about the PS3 Oblivion Elder Scrolls news...
Go back and read the article, the 360 version does the same trick of data duplication. WHilst you are at it, do some reading up on CLV and CAV and the differences. Drive speeds and data transfer rates between DVD and Blu-Ray as not as Blu and White as Microsoft would like you to believe.... Reality is, the 12x DVD speed (Only on single layer disks, from what I can tell), is CLV, so the data transfer at best, is 16MBytes/Sec, but at worst on the outer edge of the disk, it's more like 6MBytes/Sec. Blu-Ray is a constant 9MBytes/Sec across the entire disc surface.
It's also been commented on here, that the PS3 costing $500 will outperform a PC costing the same price, once you factor in CPU, Motherboard, Memory and OS, your graphics card budget would be about $100. To get something to look better than the PS3 playing Oblvion (for example) or KillZone, would take a $450 graphics card alone...
The bottom line is: Reports of the PS3 being hard to develop for are untrue (this proves it) Reports of the Blu-Ray being slower than the 360's DVD drive are also untrue (this also proves it). There are plenty of rabid xbox fanboys here trying to find fault with this news, and all they can come up with, it's been in development for an extra year, so will be better, or the Xbox360 will get these enhancements in the update soon (unfounded rumour).
Sorry, just getting in there, before the rabid Sony haters do...
YDL does take advantage of the SPE's, and applications can also, if they are programmed to. To the OP, PS3's are $500, and allow you to still play PS3 games, so yes you are a troll, goodbye... Frankly, I am sick of the fanboys than hang out here. Last year they were ranting about Sony closed formats, yadayada, they no have a PS3 than boots Linux, are they happy? Nope, they complain that access to the GPU is restricted, people need to be grateful for the wonderful gift Sony have given us, with the PS3.
Seems they are posting this crap all over the net, despite everyone knowing there is no evidence yet to back these numbers up. But key, it makes it look like the PS3 is in last place, so lets post it... Why has everyone jumped on the Hate Sony bandwagon, despite the PS3 being by far the best console of this generation?
You can run MAME on PS3, Binaries are here: http://dl.qj.net/AdvanceMame-.106-PS3-Binary-Linux -Tools-PlayStation-3/pg/12/fid/11370/catid/514
Based on the engineering skills I have seen, it will be badly welded baked bean cans, and some dodgy wiring, perhaps an old 386 with the side casing missing at an Internet Cafe in Bangalore, as the mission control centre.
Sony won't kill HD-DVD, the HD-DVD camp have already taken care of that, by the restricted studio support, lower storage space, and so far, single supplier hardware...
You want it both ways. In UK, and I think in mainland western Europe (EU countries), everything has a 12 month warranty, if it fails in the 1st 12 months, then you get a free repair/replacement. In virtually everywhere else in thr world, it's 3 months or less. Do you expect this level of consumer protection for free? Consoles cost more here, because: a) our goverments impose taxes on these type of goods b) the manufacturers factor in failure rates, and the length of warranty periods. That is why goods (not just PS3) cost more in Europe than the US.
The comment about the 2SKU's being it harder for developers to target a SINGLE stable platform, is not really fair, as Sony have cut features from the basic that don't matter to developers. Having everything including the basic units equiped with HDD and Blu-Ray was the most sensible decision Sony made. They have stuck with this decision all the way. It would have been very easy to equip the high end unit with Blu-Ray, and the Lo-End with DVD, but they have resisted doing things the "Microsoft Way", after seeing the damage not including a HDD in the basic model has done. Personally, as a European, who has a PS3 on order, whilst I am annoyed at Sony for treating us (yet again) as 3rd class citizens, I am not cancelling my PS3 order for 2 reasons. 1/ By the time it does ship, there will be a massive queue of killer launch titles. 2/ The system will be more mature. 3/ It will still be a serious kick-ass console/movie/media centre. I can easilly resist the temptation to buy a XBox360 or Wii (if that makes it's Nov debut), as I still have faith that Sony will deliver.
LOL, don't start, the rabid XBox/Microsoft fanboys will believe this, and before you know it, Charlie Demerjian will be reporting it as the truth....
Highest end cable that the XBox360 supports. But there is no DV output from a XBox360, so I don;t see your point. The PS3 WILL come with analogue cables, like your beloved XBox360. Personally, I have no problem paying $10 for HDMI cable, when I need one.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?st ory=9290
As much as people seem to not believe it, it really looks like Linux/PS3 homebrew is going to happen, with LESS restricions that Mircosoft's psuedo homebrew effort.
It matters not, the performance of Conroe speaks for itself. I don't care if it's on 180nm process :-) My E6600 is a speed demon to anything else I have built.
"AMD remains competitive with Intel". Not sure where you got that from. 30% more power, 30% less heat from a Conroe compared to a AM2 chip. I put that down to the move to 65nm, something that AMD should also get when they move to the same process. However you imply that they will get more.