To be fair, the gripe was more about it being a large file than a PDF. That said, linking to an HTML article summary (if one exists) would be preferable. Save bandwidth and mean less reading to get to the point.
Amen brother. Seriously who posts a link to a (large) PDF on the Slashdot mainpage? I'd expect that from Scuttlemonkey, but CowboyNeal?
That said, from TFPDF:
Perhaps the Government can be forgiven its glib rejection of this point because it is unfamiliar with Google's system architecture. If the Government had that familiarity, it would know that its request will take over a week of engineer time to complete.
Perhaps it may take a week's worth of engineer time to complete once. But Google must serve many millions of queries a day, it wouldn't take almost no time (and minimal hardware cost, comparatively) to cache a million of those each week.
Don't get me wrong, I agree entirely with Google's position, I just think the statement above actually weakens their argument.
And the commodity your competitors employees produce is also worth money. Whether the companies or individuals control the IP, I see little difference between the scenarios. Maybe there would be more of an "open-source" attitude in the latter but companies would continue to exist, compete and make money.
If doing business with China is evil (and it's not unreasonable to take that stance, if you're consistent), I'd much rather have a company that _tries_ to do the right thing and succeeds 90% of the time than one that never tries at all.
Close, but s/company/country/ and then you'll be on the right track. Why should US companies be responsible for enacting the foreign policy of the US govt? Perhaps the govt is just too afraid of losing 1+ billion people to trade with.
Its a free service. Got a problem? Just google for your solution.
Where is the google backup/restore policy?
Its called "Forward mail to another account and keep a copy in Gmail". Comes standard with every Gmail account.
Who takes the calles when it's slow?
Google's shareholders. Or more likely your own ISP, I suspect. And based on years of bitter experience I daresay that a Gmail server will have better performance and uptime than your average in-house corporate Exchange server too.
Who will restore deleted messages?
You have 2.6 Gig. If you're not sure you want to delete something and you delete it anyway, you're a fool. Either that, or you're using your account to store porn, pirated movies or just REALLY want to re-read all that spam.
Who will verify that email is fitting the corporate policies?
Who wants to work for a company that imposes fascist restrictions on employee communication?
Which company would allow people to integrate with a service that shows competitors ads as well as archives and allows you to interface with online chat?
I know one which will be getting a strong recommendation to sign up first thing Monday.
Not quite - if you want to use the analogy, then the bouncers will insist on reclaiming the water as they kick you out of the bar. Presumably with interest.
hmmm, maybe it's not such a bad real-life analogy after all...
Depending on the band gap and efficiency of the photocatalyst involved, natural light (IE. a window) should be sufficient to achieve this in a matter of hours.
Disclaimer: I have studied the same topic at the University mentioned.
Three comedians are shooting the breeze at the back of a nightclub after a late gig. They've heard one another's material so much, they've reached the point where they don't need to say the jokes anymore to amuse each other - they just need to refer to each joke by a number. "Number 37!" cracks the first comic, and the others break up. ""Number 53!" says the second guy, and they howl. Finally, it's the third comic's turn. "44!" he quips. He gets nothing. Crickets. "What?" he asks, "Isn't 44 funny?" "Sure, it's usually hilarious," they answer. "But the way you tell it..."...and then a heckler from the crowd pipes up and shouts "258", and the comics start pissing themselves with laughter. Eventually one calms down enough to respond "That's brilliant, we haven't heard that one before"...
That doesn't account for a crap film like Titanic picking up 11 Oscars, for example. Or the first two "Lord of the Rings" movies getting shafted by inferior films either.
Well, maybe it was a slow news day... in fact the word "Google" is only in two Slashdot headlines today - around here that's a very slow news day for Google...
Colonel Sandurz: Prepare ship for light speed! Dark Helmet: No no no, light speed is too slow! Colonel Sandurz: Light speed too slow? Dark Helmet: Yes, we're gonna have to go right to... ludicrous speed! Colonel Sandurz: Ludicrous speed? Sir, we've never gone that fast before. I don't know if this ship can take it! Dark Helmet: Whatsa matter, Colonel Sandurz? Chicken?
Homer: (trolling Slashdot) Apple story..... another Apple story! One more and I'm a millionaire! Come on, Apple story, please, please, please, please, please. D'oh! That fluorescent green pig thing! Where were you yesterday?
Obligatory quote: "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." - Frank Sinatra
I dreamt I was in a fight once, and punched the brick wall beside my bed in my sleep. Needless to say I woke up pretty sharpish, with a busted knucle and a decent amount of blood.
Interesting - when you get in a fight drunk, the adrenaline sobers you up pretty quick (as does the pain when you get your ass kicked because the other guy isn't as drunk), and it also woke me up pretty quick. Wow, waking up really IS like being drunk!
Slashdot Mirror
To be fair, the gripe was more about it being a large file than a PDF. That said, linking to an HTML article summary (if one exists) would be preferable. Save bandwidth and mean less reading to get to the point.
Amen brother. Seriously who posts a link to a (large) PDF on the Slashdot mainpage? I'd expect that from Scuttlemonkey, but CowboyNeal?
That said, from TFPDF:
Perhaps the Government can be forgiven its glib rejection of this point because it is unfamiliar with Google's system architecture. If the Government had that familiarity, it would know that its request will take over a week of engineer time to complete.
Perhaps it may take a week's worth of engineer time to complete once. But Google must serve many millions of queries a day, it wouldn't take almost no time (and minimal hardware cost, comparatively) to cache a million of those each week.
Don't get me wrong, I agree entirely with Google's position, I just think the statement above actually weakens their argument.
So now, we can get back to our God given right to wack off in public.
Wow, you really DO know the culture of Slashdot inside out!
And the commodity your competitors employees produce is also worth money. Whether the companies or individuals control the IP, I see little difference between the scenarios. Maybe there would be more of an "open-source" attitude in the latter but companies would continue to exist, compete and make money.
A better approach is to punish someone when they commit a criminal act that actually harms another person.
Because you'll feel so much better that some douchebag gets 25 to life AFTER he's murdered you.
Idiot.
You mean someone finally found a use for the olympics?
If doing business with China is evil (and it's not unreasonable to take that stance, if you're consistent), I'd much rather have a company that _tries_ to do the right thing and succeeds 90% of the time than one that never tries at all.
Close, but s/company/country/ and then you'll be on the right track. Why should US companies be responsible for enacting the foreign policy of the US govt? Perhaps the govt is just too afraid of losing 1+ billion people to trade with.
...or ask a Mac fanboy to help you.
</runs away quickly>
Personally I'm waiting to see how they intend to get the moonbeams home in a jar...
Its a free service. Got a problem? Just google for your solution.
Where is the google backup/restore policy?
Its called "Forward mail to another account and keep a copy in Gmail". Comes standard with every Gmail account.
Who takes the calles when it's slow?
Google's shareholders. Or more likely your own ISP, I suspect. And based on years of bitter experience I daresay that a Gmail server will have better performance and uptime than your average in-house corporate Exchange server too.
Who will restore deleted messages?
You have 2.6 Gig. If you're not sure you want to delete something and you delete it anyway, you're a fool. Either that, or you're using your account to store porn, pirated movies or just REALLY want to re-read all that spam.
Who will verify that email is fitting the corporate policies?
Who wants to work for a company that imposes fascist restrictions on employee communication?
Which company would allow people to integrate with a service that shows competitors ads as well as archives and allows you to interface with online chat?
I know one which will be getting a strong recommendation to sign up first thing Monday.
Not quite - if you want to use the analogy, then the bouncers will insist on reclaiming the water as they kick you out of the bar. Presumably with interest.
hmmm, maybe it's not such a bad real-life analogy after all...
Depending on the band gap and efficiency of the photocatalyst involved, natural light (IE. a window) should be sufficient to achieve this in a matter of hours.
Disclaimer: I have studied the same topic at the University mentioned.
Three comedians are shooting the breeze at the back of a nightclub after a late gig. They've heard one another's material so much, they've reached the point where they don't need to say the jokes anymore to amuse each other - they just need to refer to each joke by a number. "Number 37!" cracks the first comic, and the others break up. ""Number 53!" says the second guy, and they howl. Finally, it's the third comic's turn. "44!" he quips. He gets nothing. Crickets. "What?" he asks, "Isn't 44 funny?" "Sure, it's usually hilarious," they answer. "But the way you tell it..." ...and then a heckler from the crowd pipes up and shouts "258", and the comics start pissing themselves with laughter. Eventually one calms down enough to respond "That's brilliant, we haven't heard that one before"...
And think how many more people, having done that, are at least in some way a little more protected from becoming a spam zombie.
No, don't tell me, I know this one... erm... hmm... both of them?
Heh... put the collected works of Celine Dion on it and he won't even be able to give it away.
I call bollocks. Biased/bribed Judges anyone?
That doesn't account for a crap film like Titanic picking up 11 Oscars, for example. Or the first two "Lord of the Rings" movies getting shafted by inferior films either.
Well, maybe it was a slow news day... in fact the word "Google" is only in two Slashdot headlines today - around here that's a very slow news day for Google...
deliberately and repeatedly duped Internet users into downloading intrusive advertising software....(download PDF)
Oh, the irony. Acrobat Reader must be the most resource-hungry bloatware I've ever come across, and it displays ads, and has been used as spyware...
I disagree. Without porn, there would presumably be more children...
Only if you can throw it hard enough...
iAmSorry, but iJustDontGiveAShitAnymore.
Obligatory Spaceballs quote:
Colonel Sandurz: Prepare ship for light speed!
Dark Helmet: No no no, light speed is too slow!
Colonel Sandurz: Light speed too slow?
Dark Helmet: Yes, we're gonna have to go right to... ludicrous speed!
Colonel Sandurz: Ludicrous speed? Sir, we've never gone that fast before. I don't know if this ship can take it!
Dark Helmet: Whatsa matter, Colonel Sandurz? Chicken?
To bastardise a Simpsons quote (Episode 7G10)...
Homer: (trolling Slashdot) Apple story..... another Apple story! One more and I'm a millionaire! Come on, Apple story, please, please, please, please, please. D'oh! That fluorescent green pig thing! Where were you yesterday?
Obligatory quote: "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." - Frank Sinatra
I dreamt I was in a fight once, and punched the brick wall beside my bed in my sleep. Needless to say I woke up pretty sharpish, with a busted knucle and a decent amount of blood.
Interesting - when you get in a fight drunk, the adrenaline sobers you up pretty quick (as does the pain when you get your ass kicked because the other guy isn't as drunk), and it also woke me up pretty quick. Wow, waking up really IS like being drunk!