Actually i would say they have been fighting in different desktop areas, Apple is in the Hardware + software expensive combo experience, Gnu/Linux is in the "runs in everything if proper drivers available", maybe in the future OEMs like Dell try to steal this Apple market using FOSS offerings (like a very customized Ubuntu installation for instance), but until now it has not been the case (sold only to hobbyists).
Also think this way, since Microsoft is a desktop monopoly anyone who steals them market share (no matter who) is a win, because it breaks the Microsoft junk cycle and forces both users and developers to "think different", so next time they make an IT purchase they may be more open to alternatives than otherwise.
And so mom that is why who should have downloaded the movie, because what is the point in paying for things that you cant just use?
DRM ONLY hurts people who pay for the content, pirates just download stuff drm-free and so they dont have to worry about stupid things like FBI warnings, need to insert the cd everytime you play a game, copy protections that wont let you backup stuff that YOU OWN.
DRM IS broken by design, and is makes as much sense as tryingo to kill a fly with a shotgun.
And with $250,000 how many coders/maintainers can they hire until 2012 to work in other things, like the kernel, xorg, usability, repositories, etc... to do you know things that really matter?
MP3 out-of-the-box is not a "killer app" (and i can add with just a few clicks without ever touching the CLI), and if you think it is there are several Distributions (a bunch of them just plain Ubuntu with a few customizations) which do include it, so feel free to recommend any of them!
Ive been using Ubuntu since hoary, and personally im very disappointed with the decision of shipping binary drivers for default at feisty (and yes there are feasible alternatives to that).
Fortunately to us this is not the end, and as soon as launchpad specs for feisty +1 start i will make one against the default inclusion of binary drivers based on Ubuntu freedom ideology and technical problems (blobs suck at several support/use areas), and of course gather as much community support in the subject as possible.
Actually, the 9250 is the fasted fully supported ATI card under Linux
You are kidding right? I have an radeon 9250 , i use the open drivers under ubuntu (i got tired of the fglrx binary crap) and 3d performance sucks , i disabled the 3d screensaver because it would lag as hell, if i turn on openGL at supertux it starts to run at 1/2 fps....
So unless you know something i dont i would say you are wrong.
Have you never heard about
One of my main reasons
for not even looking at Ubuntu for longer than
about install+1 hour is that it just looks plain ugly compared to
Fedora. How weird.... I mean I really hate the brown/orange thing and
the Gnome icons and text seem to look years behind Fedora, more like
RedHat before Bluecurve or SUSE's Gnome, it's just unfinished.
Have you never heard aboutGnome look
orGnome art
, if only there was an easier way to install eyecandy than drag - drop
Funny thing , i am the "computer expert" around here , i installed
&& configured (and provide tech support) 3 diferent Win
Boxes ( Sister , Sister boyfriend , and a friend of mine) and helped in
the configurations of others.
And let me tell you kind sir , It's not ready for grandma to
use, and as such, it's not an XP
replacement. It still takes many keystrokes to get MP3 and video codec
support. Want a binary nvidia driver? Due to ideological reasons,
you'll need to manually enable universe and install it ,
you are so wrong....
Do you think the owners of these 3 boxes are able to do those basic
tasks? hell no!
They cant install codecs , drivers , change
default settings , burn a.iso , etc... and in case you dont
know , not every single task in Windows can be done with/only
double-click , and in several situations i have to do things for they.
If you have Gnu/Linux friendly hardware , Ubuntu works out of the box ,
and to do thoose tasks you just have do modify your sources.list (5
minutes to do so , if you prefer you can just take a already "done"
sources.list from ubuntuforums and replace yours) and then copy/paste
commands from the thousand guides there is.
With windows you have to search the web for
software/mirrors/torrents/etc... with Ubuntu just use the add/remove
programs gui.
This summer im going to move the friend computer from XP to
Ubuntu (and do the same configurations i would do with Windows) , he
already uses Firefox + OOO + Gaim so it wont be a
problem , the other two boxes will remain using XP for now
(specially because both use office 2003 and OOO needs to improve in
some areas , maybe when it reaches version 3.0;) ).
Ubuntu is a great OS , is more ready than Windows for some
people, is as ready as Windows for others , and will be ready
in the future for others.
Or even better, they
could change the license to every new shipment of office to
specifically prohibit installation of plugins that are not Microsoft
approved. This plugin will fall in this category of course.
Sure , after all is not like the UE would ever appreciate even more
proofs that M$ is a monopoly that kills free (as in free market)
competition
Efforts
like Ubuntu which appear to aim
at dumbing it all down for Joe Sixpack are IMHO, rather insulting.
Fine -make your easy-peasey, unified system.
No offense , but if i had mod points
left i would rank you a troll for that sentence! Why?
A) Ubuntu does not
make users
dumb , i for instance learned to edit/make my own sources.list , to
create a working xorg.conf for my Radeon 9250 , to create a grub boot
floppy , a few bash commands , etc.. a friend of mine after a few
months even started to use Gentoo!
B) What is the
problem with users not
knowing how their computer works? Do i need to know how a engine
makes the wheels spin so i can drive a car?
If you dont like distros user-friendly dont use
them, just as simple as that , is the good thing about Foss , there are
always alternatives and forks!
I have read in the past some of this guy posts at Ubuntu forums (yes he
sometimes open/reply threads there) and let me say he raises some good
questions in several areas, in general i would say he manages to
perfectly justify making a distro for dumb/proprietary human beings and
recognizing Linspire is not a perfect distro,neither one
destined to every single person out there.
Kudos for him at least for being modest and realistic.
Off course i will never use Linspire , Ubuntu plus a extra repos to the
sources.list works fine for me.
D) Add the necessary repositories to your sources.list, install/configure all the stuff you need , search tutorials about this subjectshere (ubuntuforums)
E) Put some nice themes/windows borders/icons at your Gnome (see Gnome Look) , the default art at Ubuntu sucks!
F) After a while help give back to the community , write howtos , donate money , help other noobs , tell people how Gnu/Linux is great ,...
And I used to thought that gnu/linux apps names were chosen using some kind of "hack" , after all gnu = gnus not unix! , or RMS just wanted something with big horns so he could punch people?
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Im interested in testing google+, if someone here has an invite for it please PM me.
Half-life 2, Doom3, Crysis, ET:Quake wars, etc... all games that started as console games and were ported to pc!
Wait, what was their original platform again?
Actually i would say they have been fighting in different desktop areas, Apple is in the Hardware + software expensive combo experience, Gnu/Linux is in the "runs in everything if proper drivers available", maybe in the future OEMs like Dell try to steal this Apple market using FOSS offerings (like a very customized Ubuntu installation for instance), but until now it has not been the case (sold only to hobbyists).
Also think this way, since Microsoft is a desktop monopoly anyone who steals them market share (no matter who) is a win, because it breaks the Microsoft junk cycle and forces both users and developers to "think different", so next time they make an IT purchase they may be more open to alternatives than otherwise.
Babylon 5 IMHO is a great example of that technic, just look at the babylon 4 / Valen part.
Of gods and men looks like a good movie series!
And so mom that is why who should have downloaded the movie, because what is the point in paying for things that you cant just use?
DRM ONLY hurts people who pay for the content, pirates just download stuff drm-free and so they dont have to worry about stupid things like FBI warnings, need to insert the cd everytime you play a game, copy protections that wont let you backup stuff that YOU OWN.
DRM IS broken by design, and is makes as much sense as tryingo to kill a fly with a shotgun.
Are you joking or in LSD?
I hate those morons as much as the next guy, but come one, they have the right to be idiots, just not the one to hurt other people!
Hey it could be worst, my current internet bandwidth:
2 mbps down
128kbps up
But i will when the daughter turns 18...
And with $250,000 how many coders/maintainers can they hire until 2012 to work in other things, like the kernel, xorg, usability, repositories, etc... to do you know things that really matter?
MP3 out-of-the-box is not a "killer app" (and i can add with just a few clicks without ever touching the CLI), and if you think it is there are several Distributions (a bunch of them just plain Ubuntu with a few customizations) which do include it, so feel free to recommend any of them!
Ktorrent, gnome-bt, Azureus, deluge, etc...
Ive been using Ubuntu since hoary, and personally im very disappointed with the decision of shipping binary drivers for default at feisty (and yes there are feasible alternatives to that).
Fortunately to us this is not the end, and as soon as launchpad specs for feisty +1 start i will make one against the default inclusion of binary drivers based on Ubuntu freedom ideology and technical problems (blobs suck at several support/use areas), and of course gather as much community support in the subject as possible.
Actually, the 9250 is the fasted fully supported ATI card under Linux
You are kidding right? I have an radeon 9250 , i use the open drivers under ubuntu (i got tired of the fglrx binary crap) and 3d performance sucks , i disabled the 3d screensaver because it would lag as hell, if i turn on openGL at supertux it starts to run at 1/2 fps....
So unless you know something i dont i would say you are wrong.
Good. Now if only my local government would listen to me and stop wasting millions of dollars on MS licenses
;)
Let me guess , you are Portuguese to
Dont forget Gnumeric and Abiword , great lightweighted office apps, because of them OOO is now dead for me ;)
Have you never heard about One of my main reasons for not even looking at Ubuntu for longer than about install+1 hour is that it just looks plain ugly compared to Fedora. How weird.... I mean I really hate the brown/orange thing and the Gnome icons and text seem to look years behind Fedora, more like RedHat before Bluecurve or SUSE's Gnome, it's just unfinished.
Have you never heard aboutGnome look orGnome art , if only there was an easier way to install eyecandy than drag - drop
Funny thing , i am the "computer expert" around here , i installed && configured (and provide tech support) 3 diferent Win Boxes ( Sister , Sister boyfriend , and a friend of mine) and helped in the configurations of others.
....
.iso , etc... and in case you dont
know , not every single task in Windows can be done with/only
double-click , and in several situations i have to do things for they.
;) ).
And let me tell you kind sir , It's not ready for grandma to use, and as such, it's not an XP replacement. It still takes many keystrokes to get MP3 and video codec support. Want a binary nvidia driver? Due to ideological reasons, you'll need to manually enable universe and install it , you are so wrong
Do you think the owners of these 3 boxes are able to do those basic tasks? hell no!
They cant install codecs , drivers , change default settings , burn a
If you have Gnu/Linux friendly hardware , Ubuntu works out of the box , and to do thoose tasks you just have do modify your sources.list (5 minutes to do so , if you prefer you can just take a already "done" sources.list from ubuntuforums and replace yours) and then copy/paste commands from the thousand guides there is.
With windows you have to search the web for software/mirrors/torrents/etc... with Ubuntu just use the add/remove programs gui.
This summer im going to move the friend computer from XP to Ubuntu (and do the same configurations i would do with Windows) , he already uses Firefox + OOO + Gaim so it wont be a problem , the other two boxes will remain using XP for now (specially because both use office 2003 and OOO needs to improve in some areas , maybe when it reaches version 3.0
Ubuntu is a great OS , is more ready than Windows for some people, is as ready as Windows for others , and will be ready in the future for others.
[flammebait]Does that means Automatix and Easyubuntu will start to have users?[/flammebait]
Is just my impression or they forgot to mention Nautilus can be also used to access a ftp ( simple yet useful )?
Or even better, they could change the license to every new shipment of office to specifically prohibit installation of plugins that are not Microsoft approved. This plugin will fall in this category of course.
Sure , after all is not like the UE would ever appreciate even more proofs that M$ is a monopoly that kills free (as in free market) competition
Efforts like Ubuntu which appear to aim at dumbing it all down for Joe Sixpack are IMHO, rather insulting. Fine -make your easy-peasey, unified system.
No offense , but if i had mod points left i would rank you a troll for that sentence! Why?
A) Ubuntu does not make users dumb , i for instance learned to edit/make my own sources.list , to create a working xorg.conf for my Radeon 9250 , to create a grub boot floppy , a few bash commands , etc.. a friend of mine after a few months even started to use Gentoo!
B) What is the problem with users not knowing how their computer works? Do i need to know how a engine makes the wheels spin so i can drive a car?
If you dont like distros user-friendly dont use them, just as simple as that , is the good thing about Foss , there are always alternatives and forks!
Im going to make my own WCG , with blackjack , and hookers.
In fact , forget the WCG!
I have read in the past some of this guy posts at Ubuntu forums (yes he sometimes open/reply threads there) and let me say he raises some good questions in several areas, in general i would say he manages to perfectly justify making a distro for dumb/proprietary human beings and recognizing Linspire is not a perfect distro ,neither one
destined to every single person out there.
Kudos for him at least for being modest and realistic.
Off course i will never use Linspire , Ubuntu plus a extra repos to the sources.list works fine for me.
A )Print/Read thisWiki(wiki.ubuntu)
B) Download the
C) Install
D) Add the necessary repositories to your sources.list,
install/configure all the stuff you need , search tutorials about this
subjectshere
(ubuntuforums)
E) Put some nice themes/windows borders/icons at your Gnome (see Gnome Look) ,
the default art at Ubuntu sucks!
F) After a while help give back to the community , write
howtos , donate money , help other noobs , tell people how Gnu/Linux is
great ,
G ) Bash M$ at
H) World domination
The last two ARE NOT
optional.
And I used to thought that gnu/linux apps names were chosen using some kind of "hack" , after all gnu = gnus not unix! , or RMS just wanted something with big horns so he could punch people?