This is the same company that just extended XP to prevent linux from gaining a foothold in the low end laptop market. They can try to paint themselves any way they want... They're not fooling very many.
Parent pretty much has it. This technology would allow google to make some sort of determination whether the user in question was not an adult and thus either keep their targeted ads clean, or bump the user off the service pending some other form of age verification. I'd assume they'd simply screen the ads for children browsing; rather than piss off the huge number of adults who have child-like random click syndrome by taking away their email. Looking at it from that angle, now google can sort of claim that their targeted ads are going to the interested person who is almost surely an adult. Refined a bit, maybe they could target users with higher perceived sophistication with items they may be more interested in than those less so. I.E. hot new geek item to those who seem uber savvy.
Bravo sir, bravo. You have, in one posting both lambasted the wastefulness of our society and managed to take a jab at the download model. So which is it? The HD wars left me a bit blase regarding the upgrade. Coincidentally, my old DVD player works as well. Thus, I will most likely avoid purchasing a BD player. I am aware that there is a perfectly viable market for BD, I won't debate it. Your arguments though seem to be based on the presumption that BD is more "futureproof". This, I would argue is irrelevant. It seems plausable that consumers would opt for a disc-less system, given a viable source for HD content and a HT player with a few TB of storage. I may very well be off the rocker on this, but most of the arguments against it also applied to Mp3s not so long ago.
I suppose my point is that yes, DVD still works. The HD content on television isn't overly compelling. If I have a burning desire to watch a movie in HD, I download it. So far, Planet Earth is the sole HD movie that imo was worth watching in HD. I'll wait to buy until they're either far less expensive or the features and content unavailable in DVD, are compelling enough. If at that time, there is no alternative then yes... I will eat my hat and purchase a BD.
My time, knowledge, and skill are not worthless and I would want to be paid.
Then FOSS isn't what you're looking for as far as a suitable license for your stuff.
The GPL is great but FOSS programmers could exclude companies that use their software from the license and require an that those companies take an additional license so the programmer can get paid.
We taking for FO out of the FOSS now?
I can absolutely agree that programmers deserve pay for code that they are commissioned to do. Or for code that they are selling. I have to take exception with releasing code under a *Free* and *Open* license, and then wanting to limit it and/or close it up from certain individuals. There are other licenses out there, other options for those wishing to limit who can use a particular piece of software. *shrug*
I thought we had moved past this and on to the fear of possible litigation for use. TCO is pretty damn easy to debunk. A few years ago I set up a little intranet server with LAMP and some scripts to retrieve and parse data that was scattered all over the place. Add in some ModbusTcp stuff and it was chugging along. Our instrument tech, who was working on a similar line gave us crap every day. The worn lines of "It's only free if your time is free", "linux is an OS for people mad at microsoft", "It's a hacker OS" and the wonderful "Microsoft knows how to do enterprise software, they make it easy". My answer was the simple one... It was free. I don't have a budget for this project, and this works. Forget arguing the deeper issues. It works and it didn't touch our budget.
Three years later, we've now moved a separate workstation over to linux for all of our operator functions such as data entry and trending. End result... He's still working on implementing the reporting aspect. He pulls much of his data from our DB and is no longer quite a hardline about sticking with a single vendor. He's beginning to look at RT linux solutions for the next iteration of our embedded MCS system. Wow, hell of a tangent. Yeah, MS should leave the TCO alone... It's simply too easy to just set something up in a back room and let the technology prove itself.
Umm. You did read the "Student" part, right? This isn't intended for or licensed to businesses.
If you were going to just try to not pay for it, then there are plenty of versions floating around on BT and newsgroups. If this "software house" is a college thing and you won't be selling it, then never mind. I'll just be here chewing on my shoe.;)
Linux BT clients are most likely FOSS. If we are refering to closed source windows (or linux) clients... then yes.. the GP would indeed be at their mercy. This is pretty much how it works with all closed source products: You're at the mercy of the company/developers.
Agreed, that would be another hurdle. The solution that immediately comes to mind is a freenet style clustering. That would present more issues with versioning and redundancy. Maybe those have already been addressed elsewhere?
Linux can read FAT32 and NTFS partitions just fine. So yes, perhaps have a vm boot the image at night, mount the windows partition and backup the drive.. shutting down after. Or some custom app that just writes to the ext2 partition. As Bostonsoxfan alluded to, security might be an issue. Encrypting the partition the backups were stored on would probably be sufficient for most places.
Of course the risk of backing up your data on the same physical drive remains. I suppose a VM booting, a secure copy to a peer as well as accepting a copy of the peers backup would address that well enough. Now you'd just need a secure way of choosing the peer (unless you're going to hardcode all the pairs).
Skinfitz is correct. The term 'code monkey' has nothing to do with race whatsoever. If you care to see a humorous example of American code monkeys, take a look at the G4tv Code Monkeys page.
I think you're making the assumption that your price will go down because you'll no longer be supporting these "paying freeloaders" who are using the service they bought. It seems more likely that you'll pay the same, and the heavy users will pay more. Bigger profit margin versus giving you a lower bill when you already seem ok with the current rate.
It will be interesting to see what effect this has on digital media distribution online. How much will it stymie growth, if at all?
But is anyone else worried about this guy going to bat without representation and possibly allowing precedent to be set by his actions? Is this considered by those who would consider later cases based upon the decisions that will be made in this one?
Perhaps not, but many households have a spare dvd player in the bedroom, kitchen, garage, etc. The kids might have one in their room. His point of the issues with migration is a good one. HD-DVD had one that didn't involve trashing discs because their format was incompatible.
Insightful? Someone wasn't paying attention and got it slightly backwards. Of course that wasn't exactly true either as there are apparently some titles out and more coming.
Suing your customers and generally being asses to them while avoiding moving to an alternative distribution method had nothing to do with it.;) Sure piracy is a factor, but they've taken nearly ten years to recognize that customers don't want to buy the same album over and over to listen to it on varied players. I'd go as far as calling this an adjustment. Similar to the adjustments that the market experiences from time to time. There were too many groups/bands/artists putting out crap that was more of the same. Now hopefully the real creative ones will continue to shine while the others don't.
I always thought that they looked really dorky and clunky. A friend had one he wanted to sell( a T23, back in 2004) for a reasonable price. I was impressed with the solid build they had and the little features (the led on the top of the screen for night sessions was great). It worked well with linux and took a hell of a beating. I finally trashed it this last year. I was a little sketchy on getting another one now that Lenovo had taken over the reigns, but figured I'd give it a shot. I grabbed a lenovo R61i from Compusa @ their going OOB sale for fairly cheap and have been very happy with it. Ubuntu 7.10 booted right up and detected everything perfectly. The only thing I haven't used or tried to get working is the fingerprint scanner.
All in all, still a solid laptop brand from my experience. It will be interesting to see how these home user styled boxes fare. I wish more B&M stores carried the brand though. Compusa was the only one in my area that had them.
I don't know how many times I've been focused on a problem for a long time, ventured down a solution path, and ended up asking for help for something complicated; only to have that guy ask me what I was thinking. When I explained the problem, it turns out I had missed something that drastically reduced it.
I believe that was his point. The moral of the story being that asking for the opinion of others can provide insight and direct you to things you may have overlooked.
While I agree that the laws should continue to protect against fraud, there's a limit to what they can do. Example: Recently I saw a special on MSNBC about online fraud. The guy traced online scams from the victims to those in america who were helping the scammers, to the scammer himself in a country bordering nigeria. The scammer posed as some hot latina girl who looked to be in her upper twenties. He convinced this middle aged man to pick up, and re ship packages with his own time and money. This was all done with careful social engineering by playing on his emotions- he thought they were dating and she seemed vulnerable and in need of his help. When the guy was confronted, he was flabbergasted that not only was she not real but he was actively helping to steal from people. Apparently he had sent her many thousands of dollars to help with fake hospital bills on top of the shipping costs for packages.
The guy hadn't even tried to do a basic reality check. There are a lot of people in the US who would be caught up in a scheme like that if the situation were right. Is he culpable for taking a package shipped to him and shipping it out again on his own dime, trying to help someone? Now we're sort of full circle. Do we nail this guy for what is essentially a crime of being ignorant or trusting? Do we try to educate him? His face just went blank when he learned the truth. He didn't know all this internet stuff. Just that wendy lied about loving him. How could we best prevent him from falling for a similar scam in the future?
In the end, there has to be some effort to be informed and realistic about online transactions on a personal level. Those that can't be, should in all seriousness avoid online transactions. This is no different that investing. If you're uneducated, you really shouldn't go investing large amounts of money.
There will always be scams that slip through the cracks. There will always be people who fall for them.
You're probably referencing the gride below the map. Where things such as Constitutional Protection, Privacy Enforcement, Visual Surveillance and Government access to data are graded. Those items are governmental policy. Granted, your point is valid and probably related as the lobbyists influence policy decisions. The point being that this is supposed to represent policies and their enforcement by the government. If the government buckles to lobby and erodes freedoms, the result is the same as if they had taken the initiative themselves.
Projectm whitescreens under Amarok as well. I'm sure it's some problem with the libs. At least it compiles now though, the first couple of attempts a year or two ago gave up the ghost due to (from what I could gather on forums) a compiler bug. It's all good though, I'm sure it'll end up in the repositories.
You probably got modded because it was a crazy ass sounding rant against trying to predict tech trends by using religion. You then followed up with a bunch of offtopic tripe.
Tech website speculating about the future of FOSS in the next year.... yeah... it happens. That's great that no one will remember who predicted what. That's not the point of the exercise. The point is to discuss it NOW for the heck of it. It most likely has nothing to do with hating religion.
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This is the same company that just extended XP to prevent linux from gaining a foothold in the low end laptop market. They can try to paint themselves any way they want... They're not fooling very many.
Jaded? Yep. Suspicious? Yep.
Parent pretty much has it. This technology would allow google to make some sort of determination whether the user in question was not an adult and thus either keep their targeted ads clean, or bump the user off the service pending some other form of age verification. I'd assume they'd simply screen the ads for children browsing; rather than piss off the huge number of adults who have child-like random click syndrome by taking away their email. Looking at it from that angle, now google can sort of claim that their targeted ads are going to the interested person who is almost surely an adult. Refined a bit, maybe they could target users with higher perceived sophistication with items they may be more interested in than those less so. I.E. hot new geek item to those who seem uber savvy.
Bravo sir, bravo.
You have, in one posting both lambasted the wastefulness of our society and managed to take a jab at the download model. So which is it? The HD wars left me a bit blase regarding the upgrade. Coincidentally, my old DVD player works as well. Thus, I will most likely avoid purchasing a BD player. I am aware that there is a perfectly viable market for BD, I won't debate it. Your arguments though seem to be based on the presumption that BD is more "futureproof". This, I would argue is irrelevant. It seems plausable that consumers would opt for a disc-less system, given a viable source for HD content and a HT player with a few TB of storage. I may very well be off the rocker on this, but most of the arguments against it also applied to Mp3s not so long ago.
I suppose my point is that yes, DVD still works. The HD content on television isn't overly compelling. If I have a burning desire to watch a movie in HD, I download it. So far, Planet Earth is the sole HD movie that imo was worth watching in HD. I'll wait to buy until they're either far less expensive or the features and content unavailable in DVD, are compelling enough. If at that time, there is no alternative then yes... I will eat my hat and purchase a BD.
My time, knowledge, and skill are not worthless and I would want to be paid.
Then FOSS isn't what you're looking for as far as a suitable license for your stuff.
The GPL is great but FOSS programmers could exclude companies that use their software from the license and require an that those companies take an additional license so the programmer can get paid.
We taking for FO out of the FOSS now?
I can absolutely agree that programmers deserve pay for code that they are commissioned to do. Or for code that they are selling. I have to take exception with releasing code under a *Free* and *Open* license, and then wanting to limit it and/or close it up from certain individuals. There are other licenses out there, other options for those wishing to limit who can use a particular piece of software.
*shrug*
I thought we had moved past this and on to the fear of possible litigation for use. TCO is pretty damn easy to debunk. A few years ago I set up a little intranet server with LAMP and some scripts to retrieve and parse data that was scattered all over the place. Add in some ModbusTcp stuff and it was chugging along. Our instrument tech, who was working on a similar line gave us crap every day. The worn lines of "It's only free if your time is free", "linux is an OS for people mad at microsoft", "It's a hacker OS" and the wonderful "Microsoft knows how to do enterprise software, they make it easy". My answer was the simple one... It was free. I don't have a budget for this project, and this works. Forget arguing the deeper issues. It works and it didn't touch our budget.
Three years later, we've now moved a separate workstation over to linux for all of our operator functions such as data entry and trending.
End result... He's still working on implementing the reporting aspect. He pulls much of his data from our DB and is no longer quite a hardline about sticking with a single vendor. He's beginning to look at RT linux solutions for the next iteration of our embedded MCS system. Wow, hell of a tangent. Yeah, MS should leave the TCO alone... It's simply too easy to just set something up in a back room and let the technology prove itself.
Umm. You did read the "Student" part, right? This isn't intended for or licensed to businesses.
;)
If you were going to just try to not pay for it, then there are plenty of versions floating around on BT and newsgroups. If this "software house" is a college thing and you won't be selling it, then never mind. I'll just be here chewing on my shoe.
Modded flamebait? What the hell mods? He's right, this is a dupe of this store that was ran on the fifth.
Linux BT clients are most likely FOSS. If we are refering to closed source windows (or linux) clients... then yes.. the GP would indeed be at their mercy. This is pretty much how it works with all closed source products: You're at the mercy of the company/developers.
Peter Watts Has his Rifters series as well as Blindsight up on a CC license. Good series for those who haven't read it.
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Pirate the models... Tsk tsk, I thought we had resolved this. ;)
Agreed, that would be another hurdle. The solution that immediately comes to mind is a freenet style clustering. That would present more issues with versioning and redundancy. Maybe those have already been addressed elsewhere?
Linux can read FAT32 and NTFS partitions just fine. So yes, perhaps have a vm boot the image at night, mount the windows partition and backup the drive.. shutting down after. Or some custom app that just writes to the ext2 partition. As Bostonsoxfan alluded to, security might be an issue. Encrypting the partition the backups were stored on would probably be sufficient for most places.
Of course the risk of backing up your data on the same physical drive remains. I suppose a VM booting, a secure copy to a peer as well as accepting a copy of the peers backup would address that well enough. Now you'd just need a secure way of choosing the peer (unless you're going to hardcode all the pairs).
Skinfitz is correct. The term 'code monkey' has nothing to do with race whatsoever. If you care to see a humorous example of American code monkeys, take a look at the G4tv Code Monkeys page.
If you don't feel like humor, here is a Code Monkey as defined by Wikipedia.
I think you're making the assumption that your price will go down because you'll no longer be supporting these "paying freeloaders" who are using the service they bought. It seems more likely that you'll pay the same, and the heavy users will pay more. Bigger profit margin versus giving you a lower bill when you already seem ok with the current rate.
It will be interesting to see what effect this has on digital media distribution online. How much will it stymie growth, if at all?
But is anyone else worried about this guy going to bat without representation and possibly allowing precedent to be set by his actions? Is this considered by those who would consider later cases based upon the decisions that will be made in this one?
Perhaps not, but many households have a spare dvd player in the bedroom, kitchen, garage, etc. The kids might have one in their room. His point of the issues with migration is a good one. HD-DVD had one that didn't involve trashing discs because their format was incompatible.
Insightful? Someone wasn't paying attention and got it slightly backwards. Of course that wasn't exactly true either as there are apparently some titles out and more coming.
Suing your customers and generally being asses to them while avoiding moving to an alternative distribution method had nothing to do with it. ;) Sure piracy is a factor, but they've taken nearly ten years to recognize that customers don't want to buy the same album over and over to listen to it on varied players. I'd go as far as calling this an adjustment. Similar to the adjustments that the market experiences from time to time. There were too many groups/bands/artists putting out crap that was more of the same. Now hopefully the real creative ones will continue to shine while the others don't.
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I always thought that they looked really dorky and clunky. A friend had one he wanted to sell( a T23, back in 2004) for a reasonable price. I was impressed with the solid build they had and the little features (the led on the top of the screen for night sessions was great). It worked well with linux and took a hell of a beating. I finally trashed it this last year. I was a little sketchy on getting another one now that Lenovo had taken over the reigns, but figured I'd give it a shot. I grabbed a lenovo R61i from Compusa @ their going OOB sale for fairly cheap and have been very happy with it. Ubuntu 7.10 booted right up and detected everything perfectly. The only thing I haven't used or tried to get working is the fingerprint scanner.
All in all, still a solid laptop brand from my experience. It will be interesting to see how these home user styled boxes fare. I wish more B&M stores carried the brand though. Compusa was the only one in my area that had them.
I believe that was his point. The moral of the story being that asking for the opinion of others can provide insight and direct you to things you may have overlooked.
Stop being a dick and obsessing over his example.
While I agree that the laws should continue to protect against fraud, there's a limit to what they can do. Example: Recently I saw a special on MSNBC about online fraud. The guy traced online scams from the victims to those in america who were helping the scammers, to the scammer himself in a country bordering nigeria. The scammer posed as some hot latina girl who looked to be in her upper twenties. He convinced this middle aged man to pick up, and re ship packages with his own time and money. This was all done with careful social engineering by playing on his emotions- he thought they were dating and she seemed vulnerable and in need of his help. When the guy was confronted, he was flabbergasted that not only was she not real but he was actively helping to steal from people. Apparently he had sent her many thousands of dollars to help with fake hospital bills on top of the shipping costs for packages.
The guy hadn't even tried to do a basic reality check. There are a lot of people in the US who would be caught up in a scheme like that if the situation were right. Is he culpable for taking a package shipped to him and shipping it out again on his own dime, trying to help someone? Now we're sort of full circle. Do we nail this guy for what is essentially a crime of being ignorant or trusting? Do we try to educate him? His face just went blank when he learned the truth. He didn't know all this internet stuff. Just that wendy lied about loving him. How could we best prevent him from falling for a similar scam in the future?
In the end, there has to be some effort to be informed and realistic about online transactions on a personal level. Those that can't be, should in all seriousness avoid online transactions. This is no different that investing. If you're uneducated, you really shouldn't go investing large amounts of money.
There will always be scams that slip through the cracks. There will always be people who fall for them.
You're probably referencing the gride below the map. Where things such as Constitutional Protection, Privacy Enforcement, Visual Surveillance and Government access to data are graded. Those items are governmental policy. Granted, your point is valid and probably related as the lobbyists influence policy decisions. The point being that this is supposed to represent policies and their enforcement by the government. If the government buckles to lobby and erodes freedoms, the result is the same as if they had taken the initiative themselves.
*shrug*
Projectm whitescreens under Amarok as well. I'm sure it's some problem with the libs. At least it compiles now though, the first couple of attempts a year or two ago gave up the ghost due to (from what I could gather on forums) a compiler bug. It's all good though, I'm sure it'll end up in the repositories.
You probably got modded because it was a crazy ass sounding rant against trying to predict tech trends by using religion. You then followed up with a bunch of offtopic tripe.
Tech website speculating about the future of FOSS in the next year.... yeah... it happens. That's great that no one will remember who predicted what. That's not the point of the exercise. The point is to discuss it NOW for the heck of it. It most likely has nothing to do with hating religion.