On that general topic... I'd like a decent visualization for xmms. ProjectM would be promising if it ever worked. Again, not high priority... but it's something I'd like for parties and it would be one less things my friends goad me about for using linux.
Though I suppose things are well if I'm complaining about visualization plugins.:P
I'd argue that it was an effect of the growth of online transactions and companies retaining that data without proper safeguards more than a consequence of higher data capacities. The thumbdrives' capacity no doubt enable an employee to walk out with an entire database. There should only be a few people in an organization who have the access to do such a thing though. Even better would be a policy of not retaining any personal information such as credit card, SS, etc.
Required car analogy: It's sort of like implying that cars enable any employee to carry out all the valuables in all the safe deposit boxes. True perhaps, but other security measures and policies negate the advantage that motorized vehicles offer.
FWIW, I have had good experiences with the NVIDIA control panel that comes packaged with their driver. It detected both my monitors and allowed me to configure them using TwinView without touching xorg.conf by hand. The monitors' max resolutions are not the same and this gave me headaches in xp. Vista did better ( still required a few hoops), but configuration in Gutsy was the easiest of the three. It was a pleasant surprise after what seems a lifetime spent doing the vi xorg,CTRL+ALT+BACKSP to try to get what I wanted. ATI cards have given me nothing but trouble in both linux and windows and I've pretty much avoided them when possible for the last four years or so.
I agree that having to recompile the driver with every update of the kernel is definitely very lame.
Our physics breaks down at very high and very low "temperatures". They must be similar! What if you go to Infinity +1!? You must be back where you started!
We currently measure temperature as the kinetic energy contained within the molecules of a substance, correct? Following this, the more energy you put into those molecules... the higher the temperature. If that temperature suddenly dropped to absolute zero, where did the energy go? Did we just condense into matter? Did we just break the second? Is it simply that our definition of "temperature" breaks down with the rest of our physics at those energies? Or will the matter behave as we might expect it to, and just continue to increase in temperature as you add energy. This article felt like some wild speculation mixed with some physics concepts without any real reasoning to the question. I get it wrong somewhere?
Two of his readers write to Apple and get responses back implying that this must be some joke. Either that, or Apple is being damn sneaky with the PR and trying to discredit him. Since I'm not really in a tinfoil hat sort of mood, I'm going to have to lean towards joke on this one.
The answer is simply that the publishers will have the full control over your use of written human knowledge that they've always wanted - which should be a prospect that makes the convenience argument seem largely irrelevant. One could very well have made the same argument against digital music for most of the last decade. I doubt anyone on slashdot would argue that the DRM craze was great for consumer rights, but it was the only way that the music industry was comfortable with the idea of that form of distribution.
Look at where we are now. You can buy music in mp3 format at amazon, other players are taking notice. Consumers didn't all just roll over and accept it. I believe the same could happen with ebooks, given the same resistance by consumers to be artificially limited and the eventual realization by publishers that they'll turn a profit just fine.
This is a very simple question of ethics, and it fails the Kantian "can I universalize this choice" test. Buying a DRM-infested ebook reader simply isn't an ethical choice.
Agreed, DRMed readers are bad. Luckily there are a few that allow you to use txt, rtf, pdf, html and lit. I'd bet money that those DRM laden readers will flop just as badly as those horrid Sony Net Walkman, wannabe, not really, kinda, sorta, pseudo mp3 players from early 2000.
Because you really shouldn't. I do have a number of those issues.
CTRL+ALT+DEL doesn't work half the time
My framerates are lower in games
The games crash more frequently
Even with the windows classic theme, it isn't as responsive
IE7 and firefox have issues with media
My system wouldn't quite fall under the definition of "legacy" @ 3.5 GHz with 2 gigs of ram.
I have the copy issue as well and found that xcopy solved the problem for local copies as well as remote shares. Try that for copying to your ubuntu machine and see if it makes a difference. I wonder if it doesn't have something to do with Vistas insistence on constantly calculating copy operations throughout.
You've got to remember, everyone has different hardware and software. Your experience is going to be different from theirs. The only way to judge is by the bulk numbers to see what the majority think. Of course some are going to have horrible experiences as well as others having very positive ones.
I'd imagine that it being open source made it more attractive to them as he set Solaris apart from AIX and HP-UX. There's probably still an element of vendor lock-in however, and the flexibility of linux in addition to the lower cost were probably the clinchers. I do not know what the policies are for recompiling core solaris components at will. I would assume they are more restrictive than linux (anyone with firsthand knowledge know?). Support contract costs may also be involved.
That was the shortest strawman I've ever seen. In his own words:
Always sounded to me like saying that all works of literature are, are arrangements of words. And all words are public domain. The dictionary is prior art. So books shouldn't be copyrighted.
He did not mention nor infer that books were or should be patentable.
True, Microsoft is making progress and improving their latest OS. Similar to the problems XP had early on, they will eventually be tweaked to a state that a majority will find workable.
That said, however your good experience may not be typical for those running it. For example, I've run Vista business on my main machine two separate times for a total of perhaps six months. I am simply not happy with it. I experience random hard locks that are difficult to trace. The Event Log doesn't catch what's causing these, and updating all drivers & the bios has not solved the problem. I play WoW occasionally, and have suffered numerous issues with it. Ranging from files occasionally becoming corrupted to complete loss of the WoW folder itself. The biggest headache for me were the random crashes that would occur after 15 to 60 minutes of play (if it hadn't happened by then, I could continue playing that session without worry). The file corruption and entire loss of the folder required the use of Xcopy to keep a copy of the entire WoW folder elsewhere which could be partially or wholy copied back to my install folder when the need arose. Copying the whole folder through Explorer caused problems of it's own. Winamp had issues as well as iTunes. I ended up just sticking with WMP for my music.
After some of the random hard locks and after the reboot, windows would display an error message for perhaps half a second about being unable to verify the product ID and would then shut down. Rebooting normally at this point would activate the kill switch and I'd be stuck. Rebooting with F8 and selecting the Previous known good configuration option would bring me back to a workable desktop (though I'd have the This Copy Of Windows Is Not Genuine message at the bottom right of my screen until the next reboot). Memory tests all pass, and XP does not suffer any of these symptoms. Whether driver or OS issue, I am still unsure.
I have given Vista what I consider a fair shake. Perhaps SP1 will help things. I will definitely try it.
No doubt there are some who are just bitching for the sake of it. But I'd appreciate it if there were less generalizations about all the lemmings who hate it just because it came from Redmond. I cannot be the only person experiencing these issues, and the market reaction with many attempting to move back to XP from Vista reinforces my opinion. I have used it and believe I've given it a fair chance. It simply doesn't suit me, not yet.
From my understanding, it is inferred. ISPs are by definition a carrier. Cicso has a good overview here . A google search will pull up all sorts of discussions on CC status for ISPs(most of the snips on the google search were about topics like whether Verizon or Comcast has lost its CC status for various actions). There are relatively few discussions on whether they are indeed CCs or not. Likewise, discussions on whether phone companies are CCs or not are also rare.
Additionally I've not heard of comcast nor any other major ISP itself being sued over its users transferring copyrighted or illegal data. This would further argue the point.
Am I missing something? What leads us to believe that ISPs do not fall under CC status other than the fact that they are not traditional phone companies?
Agreed, but of course this would never be used on a robot in such a situation. Those robots need no learning. They are repetitive things that should only vary when a human explicitly tells them to. This would be useful in creating a sort of base programming for a robot meant to walk, help elderly people, etc. You could do the base learning (i.e. putting things in your mouth) part in a lab to gain a nice template which you could copy to other robots. Follow this with a specialized learning period which would provide the refinements for its actual intended purpose. And of course you could always drop in directives of actions to never take, regardless of the circumstances.
The luxury being you can always set concrete bounds for their learning. Where humans can rationalize the strangest things in the correct circumstances.
He didn't attack windows. FTA:
Is Linux kernel development proceeding faster than Windows Server development?
I'm the wrong person to ask, for multiple reasons. First off, I'm somewhat biased, of course. But the other reason is that I don't even know -- or really care -- how Windows Server development actually proceeds, so how could I even compare and make an intelligent point?
I simply don't use Microsoft products, not because I hate them, but because they aren't interesting to me.
As to where he is getting this idea of improved wireless support. FTA:
Where will the Linux kernel gain added strengths in 2008?
We really are pretty much all over the map. One of the fun things about Linux, and certainly the thing that has kept it interesting over almost two decades now, is how different people have different goals and the hardware keeps changing under us too.
So a lot of the effort ends up being hardware-related. Both in terms of peripheral drivers and simply in platform changes. The bulk of the kernel really is about hardware support, and that alone keeps us busy. The situation in graphics and wireless networking devices -- both of which have been somewhat weak spots -- is changing, and I suspect that will be a large part of what continues to happen during 2008 too.
To sum it up for you...
Linus doesn't use Windows. He declined to compare linux with Windows Server due to lack of knowledge of the platform.
Linus is kinda, sort of, a tiny bit involved in kernel development. He believes that the issue of graphics and wireless networking support is changing. I would venture a guess that this opinion was formed by his involvement in the kernel. Perhaps he is seeing more drivers written, and more frequent patch submissions. Disclaimer: I have not actually gone and validated this guess. I could very well be wrong, and it could be something else such as a call from Miss Cleo.
I have found that I have more issues with older wireless cards than new ones. There are a few brands that I just avoid, and a few that almost always work. Same with video cards (in linux and windows). ATI cards and I haven't gotten on well in the last four years or so. I hear that ATI support is much better than the last time I've tried it though.
Sure, for many the intellipoint is much less intrusive and more accurate. Some laptops have both. While typing the palm can brush the trackpad, inadvertently clicking and shifting the cursor (a pain while typing) of activating gui elements such as a back button. Most 3rd party driver/control apps allow this to be disabled. I've never seen a way to do that in vista natively.
I notice that Vista isn't on your list. I agree that it shouldn't be. When I read this story I couldn't get rid an image of a little kid grabbing at a bunch of butterflies and not catching any because he's not focused on any particular one.
Look, Microsoft seems to be focusing on branching out, trying to reclaim more of the search market and pushing silverlight hard. While this is definitely a good thing, what isn't a good thing is when said company neglects their core business. Windows IS that core business and imo they should focus on that before looking outside.
If this (arguably) possible mass migration from windows occurs when XP is EOL, where will that leave MS? Should/would they trade in dominance on the desktop?
the hardware they are emulating (PC architecture) is a nightmare, they have to do crazy, unsafe crap to implement it. Question, (and forgive my ignorance of the actual implementation of VMs) but would this not be an opportunity for an improvement? It would be a huge undertaking to be sure, but why emulate x86? If an architecture specifically for VMs were developed that did away with the craziness of x86 and streamlined to be more efficient and secure, would that not be worthwhile? I can run linux on sparc or (motorola) mac hardware, would a standard HyperVisor architecture be much more of a stretch?
This definitely doesn't address bugs in the VM itself, nor applications running in the VM. But we could at least take one of the weak points out of the system if it were designed properly.
I'm watching 'Passport to Pluto.... and Beyond' on the Science channel, they've been talking about the Jupiter flyby for the last five minutes or so. Interesting stuff. No... Dr. Tyson wasn't a part of the program.;) It's towards the end, so if any of you have TSC, keep an eye out for it.
I'm sorry, but you're coming across as a raving lunatic who is obsessed with this score that you managed to get on your tweaked 2k3 box. Bert is arguing that the test is flawed. It's simply really, address his argument in a rational way. Throwing out what amounts to a resume does nothing to prove that this test is right in giving a lower score machine without X than one with it.
You're freaking out here and it's making you look more akin to a thirteen year old in an AOL chat room than a world class expert that writes '110 % bugfree code'.
Unnecessary chime in by a neutral third party who couldn't care less who has the higher score or who is right.
I haven't posted prior to this. So hopefully you'll take this as it's intended- a neutral third parties opinion. It's obvious that you have respect to RJ, and I can appreciate that you're defending him. But with all the replies you are coming off a bit.... frenetic.
It's laudable to defend, but realize that you probably won't change peoples opinions. They are still going to say what they want, and the off color jokes are most definitely not going to be limited to slashdot.
I can't see it working out that way. IANAL, but let's use the same scenario as the GP. I doubt I'd be protected if I stole money, spent it and THEN filed chapter 11. In fact, others above mentioned preparatory behavior would be considered fraud. If SCO spent the money that is due Novell, I'd be surprised if the court let them out with their hide intact.
SCO: Sorry judge, we've spent it all.
Judge: Really? Hmm, you've got that nice building there. All that nice furniture.
SCO: Erm... Ummm...
Anyone know if it was determined that SCO had taken prepatory action whether or not Darl and Co. could face charges themselves? It would bring a grin to my face to see the monies due to Novell paid in SCO assets, and Darl wearing orange.
"We want to assure our customers and partners that they can continue to rely on SCO products, support and services for their business critical operations," said Darl McBride, President and CEO, The SCO Group.
Anyone still running on SCOs stuff is, I'm sorry... either a moron or so deep in legacy systems that they need a snorkle. This isn't a sudden turn of events. So just who is Darl trying to reassure? The people who have migrated away from SCO? Or the people who can't?
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On that general topic... I'd like a decent visualization for xmms. ProjectM would be promising if it ever worked. Again, not high priority... but it's something I'd like for parties and it would be one less things my friends goad me about for using linux.
:P
Though I suppose things are well if I'm complaining about visualization plugins.
I'd argue that it was an effect of the growth of online transactions and companies retaining that data without proper safeguards more than a consequence of higher data capacities. The thumbdrives' capacity no doubt enable an employee to walk out with an entire database. There should only be a few people in an organization who have the access to do such a thing though. Even better would be a policy of not retaining any personal information such as credit card, SS, etc.
Required car analogy: It's sort of like implying that cars enable any employee to carry out all the valuables in all the safe deposit boxes. True perhaps, but other security measures and policies negate the advantage that motorized vehicles offer.
FWIW, I have had good experiences with the NVIDIA control panel that comes packaged with their driver. It detected both my monitors and allowed me to configure them using TwinView without touching xorg.conf by hand. The monitors' max resolutions are not the same and this gave me headaches in xp. Vista did better ( still required a few hoops), but configuration in Gutsy was the easiest of the three. It was a pleasant surprise after what seems a lifetime spent doing the vi xorg,CTRL+ALT+BACKSP to try to get what I wanted. ATI cards have given me nothing but trouble in both linux and windows and I've pretty much avoided them when possible for the last four years or so.
I agree that having to recompile the driver with every update of the kernel is definitely very lame.
I read this as:
Our physics breaks down at very high and very low "temperatures". They must be similar! What if you go to Infinity +1!? You must be back where you started!
We currently measure temperature as the kinetic energy contained within the molecules of a substance, correct? Following this, the more energy you put into those molecules... the higher the temperature. If that temperature suddenly dropped to absolute zero, where did the energy go? Did we just condense into matter? Did we just break the second? Is it simply that our definition of "temperature" breaks down with the rest of our physics at those energies? Or will the matter behave as we might expect it to, and just continue to increase in temperature as you add energy. This article felt like some wild speculation mixed with some physics concepts without any real reasoning to the question. I get it wrong somewhere?
Two of his readers write to Apple and get responses back implying that this must be some joke. Either that, or Apple is being damn sneaky with the PR and trying to discredit him. Since I'm not really in a tinfoil hat sort of mood, I'm going to have to lean towards joke on this one.
One could very well have made the same argument against digital music for most of the last decade. I doubt anyone on slashdot would argue that the DRM craze was great for consumer rights, but it was the only way that the music industry was comfortable with the idea of that form of distribution.
Look at where we are now. You can buy music in mp3 format at amazon, other players are taking notice. Consumers didn't all just roll over and accept it. I believe the same could happen with ebooks, given the same resistance by consumers to be artificially limited and the eventual realization by publishers that they'll turn a profit just fine.
This is a very simple question of ethics, and it fails the Kantian "can I universalize this choice" test. Buying a DRM-infested ebook reader simply isn't an ethical choice.
Agreed, DRMed readers are bad. Luckily there are a few that allow you to use txt, rtf, pdf, html and lit. I'd bet money that those DRM laden readers will flop just as badly as those horrid Sony Net Walkman, wannabe, not really, kinda, sorta, pseudo mp3 players from early 2000.
Another vote for the 1150. The Ebookwise is one that is unfortunately left out in a lot of discussions about readers.
Question, are there quite a few book channels out there? I've one that I use a lot on undernet, but I've not found any other ones worth a damn.
Because you really shouldn't. I do have a number of those issues.
My system wouldn't quite fall under the definition of "legacy" @ 3.5 GHz with 2 gigs of ram.
I have the copy issue as well and found that xcopy solved the problem for local copies as well as remote shares. Try that for copying to your ubuntu machine and see if it makes a difference. I wonder if it doesn't have something to do with Vistas insistence on constantly calculating copy operations throughout.
You've got to remember, everyone has different hardware and software. Your experience is going to be different from theirs. The only way to judge is by the bulk numbers to see what the majority think. Of course some are going to have horrible experiences as well as others having very positive ones.
I'd imagine that it being open source made it more attractive to them as he set Solaris apart from AIX and HP-UX. There's probably still an element of vendor lock-in however, and the flexibility of linux in addition to the lower cost were probably the clinchers. I do not know what the policies are for recompiling core solaris components at will. I would assume they are more restrictive than linux (anyone with firsthand knowledge know?). Support contract costs may also be involved.
Always sounded to me like saying that all works of literature are, are arrangements of words. And all words are public domain. The dictionary is prior art. So books shouldn't be copyrighted.
He did not mention nor infer that books were or should be patentable.
Nay... Ballmer with a chair.... passionately shouting his warcry of "DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!"
True, Microsoft is making progress and improving their latest OS. Similar to the problems XP had early on, they will eventually be tweaked to a state that a majority will find workable.
That said, however your good experience may not be typical for those running it. For example, I've run Vista business on my main machine two separate times for a total of perhaps six months. I am simply not happy with it. I experience random hard locks that are difficult to trace. The Event Log doesn't catch what's causing these, and updating all drivers & the bios has not solved the problem. I play WoW occasionally, and have suffered numerous issues with it. Ranging from files occasionally becoming corrupted to complete loss of the WoW folder itself. The biggest headache for me were the random crashes that would occur after 15 to 60 minutes of play (if it hadn't happened by then, I could continue playing that session without worry). The file corruption and entire loss of the folder required the use of Xcopy to keep a copy of the entire WoW folder elsewhere which could be partially or wholy copied back to my install folder when the need arose. Copying the whole folder through Explorer caused problems of it's own. Winamp had issues as well as iTunes. I ended up just sticking with WMP for my music.
After some of the random hard locks and after the reboot, windows would display an error message for perhaps half a second about being unable to verify the product ID and would then shut down. Rebooting normally at this point would activate the kill switch and I'd be stuck. Rebooting with F8 and selecting the Previous known good configuration option would bring me back to a workable desktop (though I'd have the This Copy Of Windows Is Not Genuine message at the bottom right of my screen until the next reboot). Memory tests all pass, and XP does not suffer any of these symptoms. Whether driver or OS issue, I am still unsure.
I have given Vista what I consider a fair shake. Perhaps SP1 will help things. I will definitely try it.
No doubt there are some who are just bitching for the sake of it. But I'd appreciate it if there were less generalizations about all the lemmings who hate it just because it came from Redmond. I cannot be the only person experiencing these issues, and the market reaction with many attempting to move back to XP from Vista reinforces my opinion. I have used it and believe I've given it a fair chance. It simply doesn't suit me, not yet.
From my understanding, it is inferred. ISPs are by definition a carrier. Cicso has a good overview here . A google search will pull up all sorts of discussions on CC status for ISPs(most of the snips on the google search were about topics like whether Verizon or Comcast has lost its CC status for various actions). There are relatively few discussions on whether they are indeed CCs or not. Likewise, discussions on whether phone companies are CCs or not are also rare.
Additionally I've not heard of comcast nor any other major ISP itself being sued over its users transferring copyrighted or illegal data. This would further argue the point.
Am I missing something? What leads us to believe that ISPs do not fall under CC status other than the fact that they are not traditional phone companies?
Agreed, but of course this would never be used on a robot in such a situation. Those robots need no learning. They are repetitive things that should only vary when a human explicitly tells them to. This would be useful in creating a sort of base programming for a robot meant to walk, help elderly people, etc. You could do the base learning (i.e. putting things in your mouth) part in a lab to gain a nice template which you could copy to other robots. Follow this with a specialized learning period which would provide the refinements for its actual intended purpose. And of course you could always drop in directives of actions to never take, regardless of the circumstances.
The luxury being you can always set concrete bounds for their learning. Where humans can rationalize the strangest things in the correct circumstances.
And whether said model includes teeth.
Is Linux kernel development proceeding faster than Windows Server development?
I'm the wrong person to ask, for multiple reasons. First off, I'm somewhat biased, of course. But the other reason is that I don't even know -- or really care -- how Windows Server development actually proceeds, so how could I even compare and make an intelligent point?
I simply don't use Microsoft products, not because I hate them, but because they aren't interesting to me.
As to where he is getting this idea of improved wireless support. FTA:
Where will the Linux kernel gain added strengths in 2008?
We really are pretty much all over the map. One of the fun things about Linux, and certainly the thing that has kept it interesting over almost two decades now, is how different people have different goals and the hardware keeps changing under us too.
So a lot of the effort ends up being hardware-related. Both in terms of peripheral drivers and simply in platform changes. The bulk of the kernel really is about hardware support, and that alone keeps us busy. The situation in graphics and wireless networking devices -- both of which have been somewhat weak spots -- is changing, and I suspect that will be a large part of what continues to happen during 2008 too.
To sum it up for you...
Linus doesn't use Windows. He declined to compare linux with Windows Server due to lack of knowledge of the platform.
Linus is kinda, sort of, a tiny bit involved in kernel development. He believes that the issue of graphics and wireless networking support is changing. I would venture a guess that this opinion was formed by his involvement in the kernel. Perhaps he is seeing more drivers written, and more frequent patch submissions. Disclaimer: I have not actually gone and validated this guess. I could very well be wrong, and it could be something else such as a call from Miss Cleo.
I have found that I have more issues with older wireless cards than new ones. There are a few brands that I just avoid, and a few that almost always work. Same with video cards (in linux and windows). ATI cards and I haven't gotten on well in the last four years or so. I hear that ATI support is much better than the last time I've tried it though.
Agreed, something similar to the one Opera has with smaller icons would be quite useful.
Sure, for many the intellipoint is much less intrusive and more accurate. Some laptops have both. While typing the palm can brush the trackpad, inadvertently clicking and shifting the cursor (a pain while typing) of activating gui elements such as a back button. Most 3rd party driver/control apps allow this to be disabled. I've never seen a way to do that in vista natively.
I notice that Vista isn't on your list. I agree that it shouldn't be. When I read this story I couldn't get rid an image of a little kid grabbing at a bunch of butterflies and not catching any because he's not focused on any particular one.
Look, Microsoft seems to be focusing on branching out, trying to reclaim more of the search market and pushing silverlight hard. While this is definitely a good thing, what isn't a good thing is when said company neglects their core business. Windows IS that core business and imo they should focus on that before looking outside.
If this (arguably) possible mass migration from windows occurs when XP is EOL, where will that leave MS? Should/would they trade in dominance on the desktop?
Question, (and forgive my ignorance of the actual implementation of VMs) but would this not be an opportunity for an improvement? It would be a huge undertaking to be sure, but why emulate x86? If an architecture specifically for VMs were developed that did away with the craziness of x86 and streamlined to be more efficient and secure, would that not be worthwhile? I can run linux on sparc or (motorola) mac hardware, would a standard HyperVisor architecture be much more of a stretch?
This definitely doesn't address bugs in the VM itself, nor applications running in the VM. But we could at least take one of the weak points out of the system if it were designed properly.
I'm watching 'Passport to Pluto.... and Beyond' on the Science channel, they've been talking about the Jupiter flyby for the last five minutes or so. Interesting stuff. No... Dr. Tyson wasn't a part of the program. ;) It's towards the end, so if any of you have TSC, keep an eye out for it.
I'm sorry, but you're coming across as a raving lunatic who is obsessed with this score that you managed to get on your tweaked 2k3 box. Bert is arguing that the test is flawed. It's simply really, address his argument in a rational way. Throwing out what amounts to a resume does nothing to prove that this test is right in giving a lower score machine without X than one with it.
You're freaking out here and it's making you look more akin to a thirteen year old in an AOL chat room than a world class expert that writes '110 % bugfree code'.
Unnecessary chime in by a neutral third party who couldn't care less who has the higher score or who is right.
MutualDisdain,
I haven't posted prior to this. So hopefully you'll take this as it's intended- a neutral third parties opinion. It's obvious that you have respect to RJ, and I can appreciate that you're defending him. But with all the replies you are coming off a bit.... frenetic.
It's laudable to defend, but realize that you probably won't change peoples opinions. They are still going to say what they want, and the off color jokes are most definitely not going to be limited to slashdot.
I can't see it working out that way. IANAL, but let's use the same scenario as the GP. I doubt I'd be protected if I stole money, spent it and THEN filed chapter 11. In fact, others above mentioned preparatory behavior would be considered fraud. If SCO spent the money that is due Novell, I'd be surprised if the court let them out with their hide intact.
SCO: Sorry judge, we've spent it all.
Judge: Really? Hmm, you've got that nice building there. All that nice furniture.
SCO: Erm... Ummm...
Anyone know if it was determined that SCO had taken prepatory action whether or not Darl and Co. could face charges themselves? It would bring a grin to my face to see the monies due to Novell paid in SCO assets, and Darl wearing orange.
"We want to assure our customers and partners that they can continue to rely on SCO products, support and services for their business critical operations," said Darl McBride, President and CEO, The SCO Group.
Anyone still running on SCOs stuff is, I'm sorry... either a moron or so deep in legacy systems that they need a snorkle. This isn't a sudden turn of events. So just who is Darl trying to reassure? The people who have migrated away from SCO? Or the people who can't?