because if you use LDAP or NDS you end up with the same nightmarish configuration issues, except now the issues are with the windows machines, which are probably 90% of his clientelle.
Ehrm. Not only do I have Windows machines, I have an OS X box, and my workstation is Linux.
Now, the windows boxes DO have random crashes regarding the TCP/IP stacks (Exception 0E), but that has nothing to do with Netware/NDS.
Stop spreading FUD, I've run NDS for 5 years, and logging into the server is not an issue. Sure, there can be other issues (client-side caching of shared documents - umm turn it off), but nothing that is specific to NDS.
Plus, with NDS, you don't even need Netware. (Oh, and it's also LDAP v3, so we've used it for web app auths also)
The hardware they use to make it work will probably support what you're trying to do. Your typical off the shelf (At Frys) SCSI controller won't do the trick.
There's much more information buried on their site, of course it applies to NetWare, but just because you don't have a Linux answer, doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all.
Basically the servers monitor each other, and if the server that has mounted the drive goes down, the 2nd server picks it back up. (Oh, you only have to buy one server. Mirroring licenses are built into the product)
We streamed a video off the disk, then downed the server, and after a couple seconds the video picked right up where it had paused..Very cool.
Of course, that's actually while working on a third workstation....
I know this isn't helpful to the topic (Linux solution needed), but many people don't know it's possible.
Or in other words... OSS folks don't deal with dumb users, they deal with dumb admins**--who are often flamed away so quickly that only the halfway competent admins remain.
The original post was in reference to GAIM. Are you telling me you've completely missed all the furvor about Desktop Linux? You don't really think end users are having admins install it do you? Red Hat 8.0 is being touted as their first good step towards Desktop Linux.
Like it or not, end users coming, and some of them are incompetant, AND want to submit bug reports.
Please don't flame them and send them back to Windows.
So, what kind of HA (High-Availability) or Failover turnkey clusters are available for Linux?
To do what? File Serving? SQL Server?
I believe NFS is 'HA', and I believe Postgres SQL would also be HA.
There are also Linux-based load balancers available, so if you wanted to do something as simple as have 2 servers with static web pages, the load balancer would NAT those two systems, and direct requests to whatever one had the lowest load. That includes being completely down too:)
One nifty HA application is Email. Take a look at Matt Simersons FreeBSD email toaster (The Same apps are available on Linux) for a way to setup a HA Email cluster. It describes one system, but add NFS and MySQL replication, and you have HA.
When I think of clusters, I think of the active-passive Win2K database server we have at our co-location facility. It requires special cluster-aware hardware (e.g. the disk array) and cluster aware software (e.g. Win2K AS, SQL Server). I get the impression from people's comments that this is a different type of cluster. Rather than being about high availability, it is about massive parallel computing. Is this a correct assessment?
Right. Netware 6 has kick-ass "clustering" that allows a Server to go down, and a 2nd server to beome your file server. You can stream a video (from FILE), down a server, and after a second, your stream will continue - from the 2nd server.
Most of us call that failover, but Microsoft and Novell are calling it clustering.
I'm not deeply into comics, but Superman seems to be that character to me. In Superman they've created a superhero who is just too strong to be beaten.
That is almost true, except the guy is a gullible moron. How many times has a criminal called, Truce!, and Superman goes "Ok, I'll stop", only to get back stabbed, or whomped in the head..
Watching Superman is like watching those 70's horror movies, where *you* know that the chick shouldn't open the door...
Mom takes daughter in to server room while mom has to make a quick tape change. Daughter sees pretty red button. Click! AS400 scrams. Fortunately only one user was on at the time, and a OS/400 has a very robust RDB so no corruption happened.
Already know that one.. Computer in posted picture (for havokmon.com) was running partition magic, resizing partitions on an 80GB drive.....
Needless to say, all my Weird Al videos are lost forever:(
Not to be picking at you, because I've done it myself - but if you walk away from a root console, the security of Wine is the least of your possible worries.
Heh. Good point. But the odds of someone walking into my office and knowing how to operate my Linux desktop are about slim and none. And you're assuming my screensaver doesn't lock:)
It IS, though, entirely possible that I could try and run something in Wine that would be dangerous to my desktop.
Now, my Netware console isn't locked, so a root window on my desktop really is the least of my worries:P
In defense of whoever packages Wine like that (if anyone), it still won't allow a malicious Windows program to do anything a malicious user or Linux program couldn't do on its own. The Windows binary has only the privileges of the user running Wine.
I've found it very easy to su to root, walk away, and completely forget that that particular console is root.. Yes, I've accidentally run Wine as root that way - Of course it didn't work because it couldn't find a config...but if they're not already here, global configs are on the way.
I've just recently done a wineinstall to clean out my wine settings, and I don't have a Z:. Does that happen if you're running as root?
Are you crazy to run Wine as root ?
Yes, you would be crazy to run Wine as root. I merely asked what would cause a Z: drive to appear mapped to '/'. Would Installing Wine as root cause that config?
You apparently COMPLETELY misread what I wrote.
Or more likely, this being Slashdot and all, you never read the article which said the guy who was infected had Z: mapped to '/'.
In other words, if I'm sitting at a prompt in the directory/usr/local/sasquatch and try "wine bigfoot.exe" to run the bigfoot.exe file, unless there's a Windows drive mapped that gives access to / usr/local/sasquatch I'm gonna get an error. Mapping a drive to / prevents the error.
I realize that, but that wasn't my question. I think my question would be, Why would someone ever do that? I mean, at least there's an/opt or/usr debate for Linux apps. It just seems overly excessive to me to allow 'Windows' access to the whole drive. (Or drives, EVERYTHING is mounted somewhere under root)
Especially if you happen to have su'd to root, and forgot to exit - say you walked away from your desk. Yeah, I know Wine's config has historically been per user, but I believe a global config is on it's way, if it's not here already.
Everyone rips on Lindows for running users as root, I think if someone is distributing a Wine rpm with a root drive mapping, they should be flogged too. I thought Security meant starting with nothing, and granting pieces as you need them?
I swear when I read the article earlier today (It was posted on Desktoplinux and NewsForge already), that the guy said that by default, "/" was mounted a Z:.
I've just recently done a wineinstall to clean out my wine settings, and I don't have a Z:. Does that happen if you're running as root?
The only potential issue I can see is that your whole home directory is 'shared' between Linux and Wine by default.
"When away from the computer, the drive then works as a stand-alone CD player that can play standard audio CDs, and MP3 or WAV files from a CD, DVD or Memory Stick."
Unless DRM screws up everything, I would think that a better solution is to have mp3 storage in vehicles, so that "%!*^&#, forgot the CD" can be avoided...
I think you guys forget the number of people who drive most of everyday. Think Semi Drivers. Think Delivery Trucks. Think Tow Trucks.
A lot of those guys own their own trucks, and travel across 'radio borders'. We all know how limited radio is, and how statios in different cities are all copycats.
Satellite Radio gives you more choice, and you don't have to worry about 'blackout' areas between major cities. I actually listened to AM one morning driving I-65 bewteen Indianapolis and Chicago when I was 18. How many 18 year olds (who don't get their asses kicked) listen to AM radio?
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Ehrm. Not only do I have Windows machines, I have an OS X box, and my workstation is Linux.
Now, the windows boxes DO have random crashes regarding the TCP/IP stacks (Exception 0E), but that has nothing to do with Netware/NDS.
Stop spreading FUD, I've run NDS for 5 years, and logging into the server is not an issue. Sure, there can be other issues (client-side caching of shared documents - umm turn it off), but nothing that is specific to NDS.
Plus, with NDS, you don't even need Netware. (Oh, and it's also LDAP v3, so we've used it for web app auths also)
Dammit! People need to stop ignoring Novell.
Building a Poor Man's SCSI-Based Cluster Hardware System
There's much more information buried on their site, of course it applies to NetWare, but just because you don't have a Linux answer, doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all.
Basically the servers monitor each other, and if the server that has mounted the drive goes down, the 2nd server picks it back up. (Oh, you only have to buy one server. Mirroring licenses are built into the product)
We streamed a video off the disk, then downed the server, and after a couple seconds the video picked right up where it had paused..Very cool.
Of course, that's actually while working on a third workstation....
I know this isn't helpful to the topic (Linux solution needed), but many people don't know it's possible.
The original post was in reference to GAIM. Are you telling me you've completely missed all the furvor about Desktop Linux? You don't really think end users are having admins install it do you? Red Hat 8.0 is being touted as their first good step towards Desktop Linux.
Like it or not, end users coming, and some of them are incompetant, AND want to submit bug reports.
Please don't flame them and send them back to Windows.
To do what? File Serving? SQL Server?
I believe NFS is 'HA', and I believe Postgres SQL would also be HA. There are also Linux-based load balancers available, so if you wanted to do something as simple as have 2 servers with static web pages, the load balancer would NAT those two systems, and direct requests to whatever one had the lowest load. That includes being completely down too :)
One nifty HA application is Email. Take a look at Matt Simersons FreeBSD email toaster (The Same apps are available on Linux) for a way to setup a HA Email cluster. It describes one system, but add NFS and MySQL replication, and you have HA.
Right. Netware 6 has kick-ass "clustering" that allows a Server to go down, and a 2nd server to beome your file server. You can stream a video (from FILE), down a server, and after a second, your stream will continue - from the 2nd server.
Most of us call that failover, but Microsoft and Novell are calling it clustering.
Wouldn't a LTSP+mosix cluster do the same thing without having to touch the hard drives?
That is almost true, except the guy is a gullible moron. How many times has a criminal called, Truce!, and Superman goes "Ok, I'll stop", only to get back stabbed, or whomped in the head..
Watching Superman is like watching those 70's horror movies, where *you* know that the chick shouldn't open the door...
I can't believe you'd think of cars... You've obviously never had your wife do any painting.
I'd love to just have all the woodwork looking like wood again at the touch of a button.
It turned out that color-changing clothes weren't cool. :)
Well, only for the fat geeks who's armpits were constantly a different color...
Already know that one.. Computer in posted picture (for havokmon.com) was running partition magic, resizing partitions on an 80GB drive.....
Needless to say, all my Weird Al videos are lost forever :(
That's my son using a keyboard template (from Delta Force) as a mask. He must have gotten bored with whatever game he was playing ..
I really should have come up with a better blurb, like: "You should see what I catch my admin doing..".
That doesn't surprise me. I have a strange feeling many of you have been caught doing this in front of your pc.
So much for my Delta Force keyboard layout ;)
Heh. Good point. But the odds of someone walking into my office and knowing how to operate my Linux desktop are about slim and none. And you're assuming my screensaver doesn't lock :)
It IS, though, entirely possible that I could try and run something in Wine that would be dangerous to my desktop.
Now, my Netware console isn't locked, so a root window on my desktop really is the least of my worries :P
I've found it very easy to su to root, walk away, and completely forget that that particular console is root.. Yes, I've accidentally run Wine as root that way - Of course it didn't work because it couldn't find a config...but if they're not already here, global configs are on the way.
Are you crazy to run Wine as root ?
Yes, you would be crazy to run Wine as root. I merely asked what would cause a Z: drive to appear mapped to '/'. Would Installing Wine as root cause that config?
You apparently COMPLETELY misread what I wrote.
Or more likely, this being Slashdot and all, you never read the article which said the guy who was infected had Z: mapped to '/'.
I realize that, but that wasn't my question. I think my question would be, Why would someone ever do that? I mean, at least there's an /opt or /usr debate for Linux apps. It just seems overly excessive to me to allow 'Windows' access to the whole drive. (Or drives, EVERYTHING is mounted somewhere under root)
Especially if you happen to have su'd to root, and forgot to exit - say you walked away from your desk. Yeah, I know Wine's config has historically been per user, but I believe a global config is on it's way, if it's not here already.
Everyone rips on Lindows for running users as root, I think if someone is distributing a Wine rpm with a root drive mapping, they should be flogged too. I thought Security meant starting with nothing, and granting pieces as you need them?
I've just recently done a wineinstall to clean out my wine settings, and I don't have a Z:. Does that happen if you're running as root?
The only potential issue I can see is that your whole home directory is 'shared' between Linux and Wine by default.
Maybe I just read ~/ as /
No, but I've strummed a Fender.
"When away from the computer, the drive then works as a stand-alone CD player that can play standard audio CDs, and MP3 or WAV files from a CD, DVD or Memory Stick."
Damn, sure sounds like it to me.
I think you guys forget the number of people who drive most of everyday. Think Semi Drivers. Think Delivery Trucks. Think Tow Trucks. A lot of those guys own their own trucks, and travel across 'radio borders'. We all know how limited radio is, and how statios in different cities are all copycats.
Satellite Radio gives you more choice, and you don't have to worry about 'blackout' areas between major cities. I actually listened to AM one morning driving I-65 bewteen Indianapolis and Chicago when I was 18. How many 18 year olds (who don't get their asses kicked) listen to AM radio?
Some places are just that barren.
For a REAL PBX, see the Fujitsu 9600. You may be more familiar with Nortel Norstar, (look at companie's phones) but that's the Ford Escort of PBX's.
HA! I saw SIP, and thought that was a link to vodka.org ;)
That's all I've seen.. I think people are getting PBX confused with ACD/Voicemail system.
Voicemail systems (which are usually utilized in your voice menu hell system) can double as low-end ACD's, but neither can be considered a PBX.