So what are we supposed to use in these "frequent on/off" locations (like the bathroom) after the EU and US ban incandescents??? See - this is a perfect example of a short-sighted law that HURTS the average citizen more than it helps them.
What, you think CF is the only lighting technology currently available that can be used in a normal light socket?
LED exists too, and in those low-use, short cycle areas, they will last absolutely forever. Think about changing bulbs every decade or more, and how nice that will be.
In fact theaveng said, "I have to drive". Notice the I in that sentence? Jackass. Trying to ram your damn CFLs into people's homes and costing them MORE money, not less. Typical Tyrant (or should I call you Lord?) who treats everyone like serfs too dumb to run their own lives.
Wow. I guess you are too dumb to run your own life if you're going to drive for 2 hours and use 4 gallons of gas to drop off a single fucking lightbulb at the recycling center, the real point of my argument against his nonsensical accounting of how people will recycle these things.
I don't know if you're buying shitty bulbs or whatnot, but mine last longer than regular bulbs by far. The big issue is that lots of on-off cycles lessen the life of the bulbs a huge amount, which hurts their lifespan. So, don't use them in the fridge or any other place that has short, possibly frequent cycles, like a hallway light. I use them for lights that stay on for long periods, like my work light, and they last extremely long. That's a 10 hour day, with a single on and off cycle per day.
So assuming 1000 hours (typical life of normal 60 watt bulb) that's 45 watts * hours == 45000 watt hours saved.
Now I have to drive the damn Mercury-laced CFL to the recycling center (versus my regular bulbs which I just bury in the backyard with other biodegradable crap). It's 50 miles away or about 4 gallons burned round-trip. 4 gallons of gasoline == 460,000 watt hours burned (estimated).
You used 460,000 watt hours under the assumption that it takes everyone 4 gallons of gas to drive to the recycling center, and that there's no other pickup points.
The real weird thing you did with your math was the assumption you would drive the 50 miles, expending 4 gallons of gas and two hours, to drop off a single bulb. Drop off 20 bulbs at a time instead, and you end up 460000 watt-hours ahead.
You're saving 75% of the wattage over the life of the bulb, which turns out to be many, many kilowatts. A 75w bulb burns out after 4000 hours used, you have used 300,000 kWh over the life of the bulb. Assuming the same lifespan (which CF are actually much longer lived), you're talking 56,000 kWh for the 14W CF replacement. That's a difference of about 250,000 kWh.
Considering a house may have 20-30 regularly used bulbs, you take a load of 10 at once to the recycling center, which is most likely going to be in your town anyway, not more than a few miles away. I don't see how your logic adds up once numbers are really examined, since your assumption is that you're using millions of kWh to dispose of the bulb.
Unfortunately, raw materials aren't the bottleneck, where the incandescent would be superior. The energy is the issue, which is why the law addreses efficiency rather than type.
Just because they buy our debt doesn't mean they have money to spend, jeez. If they spend money on a US company, they have to buy that debt all over again, then doubly so, in order to keep their currency pegged to ours. If they don't keep their currency pegged, they're in a world of hurt economically.
As for Woolworth's, that company went out of business because it decided to stop focusing on discount and low price stores, and instead diversified into a large number of specialty shops. I doubt Walmart is going to make that kind of decision anytime soon, considering their investment into gigantic standalone stores and not mall outlets.
"The vice president's office was furnished with a folding lawn chair and a chaise lounge." i.e. Cutting costs. Saving money.
Yet the owners with the highest number of shares, the Waltons (all 4 of them), each walk away with billions per year, while the people working there live just below the poverty line.
Netflix uses Silverlight. That's a rather large chunk of the intentional deployment, beyond the "Oh, it's here on Windows Update, I better install it" crowd, I would imagine.
Although, you have to admit the situation was different. When talking about the era of the floppy, CDs had already gained a huge amount of traction. They stopped shipping floppy drives in 1998; by then, every computer had a CD drive, and high end models were even shipping with DVD drives, two generations ahead of the floppy.
By contrast, when talking about Flash, there's nothing currently sitting with widespread adoption to usurp it. HTML5 isn't implemented fully, and nothing other than Sliverlight provides the same "total package" as Flash at the moment. It's hard to see them both ditching a technology when there's no replacement that is widespread in adoption, and that decision being good in the medium timeframe.
Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq are all hellholes we failed to walk over armed opposition in.
Because that's bullshit. The US kills anybody who's in the way. We won Vietnam, the war. We lost Vietnam, the minds of the Vietnamese people, due to our utter ruthlessness.
Seriously, name a single battle in Vietnam where the North Vietnamese had a major military success. We lost 58,000 men; the North Vietnamese lost over 1.1 million.
And Pepsi Throwback and Heritage Dr Pepper are awesome today. It's unfortunate that they only make them in occasional limited batches.
I don't much care for Mt Dew Throwback, though. The HFCS version is my favorite soft drink and the real sugar I guess just doesn't taste artificial enough.
Go to a bodega, and look for the imported coke. In fact, go anywhere where they import coke, and get it there.
You can even get the glass bottled coke, which is usually cane sugar.
It'd be nice to know he knew the procedure. However, if something unusual came up I'd prefer to have the guy who 'phones a friend' than the one who decides to wing it. If you're having a 2+ hour piece of surgery is a 5 min delay while the surgeon checks to ensure something is right really so bad?
Well, possibly. Anesthesia is pretty dangerous, and gets more dangerous the longer you're under it.
I mean, I'd probably want the surgeon to look it up too. But it does carry some risk.
Hitler's propaganda was written for the express purpose of harming the Jewish people
Not if you consider that Hitler believed all of his falsehoods to be true. Then, he was just informing the German people about the truth behind the Jews, and propaganda was his method. All propaganda consists of is presenting facts (again, real or imagined) while harboring a bias.
Oh, and of course there's going to be a Godwin strike or two. It's a discussion invoking propaganda.
Hitler's propaganda informed the Germans that the Jews were to blame for all of their problems, and that the Aryan race was supreme to all others. That doesn't excuse it from being propaganda.
Probably because we eat lots of things that have a high likelihood of being grown in soil with large quantities of heavy metals, and we have higher exposure in a factory than your average forest.
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The sanctions against Iran and Cuba are anything but unilateral.
That would be a gray area to be improved in current law, rather than a reason to abolish copyright law altogether.
So what are we supposed to use in these "frequent on/off" locations (like the bathroom) after the EU and US ban incandescents??? See - this is a perfect example of a short-sighted law that HURTS the average citizen more than it helps them.
What, you think CF is the only lighting technology currently available that can be used in a normal light socket?
LED exists too, and in those low-use, short cycle areas, they will last absolutely forever. Think about changing bulbs every decade or more, and how nice that will be.
In fact theaveng said, "I have to drive". Notice the I in that sentence? Jackass. Trying to ram your damn CFLs into people's homes and costing them MORE money, not less. Typical Tyrant (or should I call you Lord?) who treats everyone like serfs too dumb to run their own lives.
Wow. I guess you are too dumb to run your own life if you're going to drive for 2 hours and use 4 gallons of gas to drop off a single fucking lightbulb at the recycling center, the real point of my argument against his nonsensical accounting of how people will recycle these things.
Yep, I totally botched that one.
I don't know if you're buying shitty bulbs or whatnot, but mine last longer than regular bulbs by far. The big issue is that lots of on-off cycles lessen the life of the bulbs a huge amount, which hurts their lifespan. So, don't use them in the fridge or any other place that has short, possibly frequent cycles, like a hallway light. I use them for lights that stay on for long periods, like my work light, and they last extremely long. That's a 10 hour day, with a single on and off cycle per day.
So assuming 1000 hours (typical life of normal 60 watt bulb) that's 45 watts * hours == 45000 watt hours saved. Now I have to drive the damn Mercury-laced CFL to the recycling center (versus my regular bulbs which I just bury in the backyard with other biodegradable crap). It's 50 miles away or about 4 gallons burned round-trip. 4 gallons of gasoline == 460,000 watt hours burned (estimated).
You used 460,000 watt hours under the assumption that it takes everyone 4 gallons of gas to drive to the recycling center, and that there's no other pickup points.
The real weird thing you did with your math was the assumption you would drive the 50 miles, expending 4 gallons of gas and two hours, to drop off a single bulb. Drop off 20 bulbs at a time instead, and you end up 460000 watt-hours ahead.
You're saving 75% of the wattage over the life of the bulb, which turns out to be many, many kilowatts. A 75w bulb burns out after 4000 hours used, you have used 300,000 kWh over the life of the bulb. Assuming the same lifespan (which CF are actually much longer lived), you're talking 56,000 kWh for the 14W CF replacement. That's a difference of about 250,000 kWh.
Considering a house may have 20-30 regularly used bulbs, you take a load of 10 at once to the recycling center, which is most likely going to be in your town anyway, not more than a few miles away. I don't see how your logic adds up once numbers are really examined, since your assumption is that you're using millions of kWh to dispose of the bulb.
Unfortunately, raw materials aren't the bottleneck, where the incandescent would be superior. The energy is the issue, which is why the law addreses efficiency rather than type.
Just because they buy our debt doesn't mean they have money to spend, jeez. If they spend money on a US company, they have to buy that debt all over again, then doubly so, in order to keep their currency pegged to ours. If they don't keep their currency pegged, they're in a world of hurt economically.
Neither does China.
Yeah, I definitely botched that one. M != B.
As for Woolworth's, that company went out of business because it decided to stop focusing on discount and low price stores, and instead diversified into a large number of specialty shops. I doubt Walmart is going to make that kind of decision anytime soon, considering their investment into gigantic standalone stores and not mall outlets.
Just go to another terminal which has internet access.
Exactly!
"The vice president's office was furnished with a folding lawn chair and a chaise lounge." i.e. Cutting costs. Saving money.
Yet the owners with the highest number of shares, the Waltons (all 4 of them), each walk away with billions per year, while the people working there live just below the poverty line.
Netflix uses Silverlight. That's a rather large chunk of the intentional deployment, beyond the "Oh, it's here on Windows Update, I better install it" crowd, I would imagine.
Although, you have to admit the situation was different. When talking about the era of the floppy, CDs had already gained a huge amount of traction. They stopped shipping floppy drives in 1998; by then, every computer had a CD drive, and high end models were even shipping with DVD drives, two generations ahead of the floppy.
By contrast, when talking about Flash, there's nothing currently sitting with widespread adoption to usurp it. HTML5 isn't implemented fully, and nothing other than Sliverlight provides the same "total package" as Flash at the moment. It's hard to see them both ditching a technology when there's no replacement that is widespread in adoption, and that decision being good in the medium timeframe.
What? The guy has a reason to keep you alive when you have a PIN, but doesn't if he can just use your fingerprint.
why is this modded troll?
Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq are all hellholes we failed to walk over armed opposition in.
Because that's bullshit. The US kills anybody who's in the way. We won Vietnam, the war. We lost Vietnam, the minds of the Vietnamese people, due to our utter ruthlessness.
Seriously, name a single battle in Vietnam where the North Vietnamese had a major military success. We lost 58,000 men; the North Vietnamese lost over 1.1 million.
Speaking as a US citizen, I'm sure glad our founding fathers weren't such bleeding whiners.
Well, he has a point. The US military would walk all over any armed opposition in any sort of typical battle.
What they wouldn't do is win a political war, since that's obviously their Achilles heel.
And Pepsi Throwback and Heritage Dr Pepper are awesome today. It's unfortunate that they only make them in occasional limited batches.
I don't much care for Mt Dew Throwback, though. The HFCS version is my favorite soft drink and the real sugar I guess just doesn't taste artificial enough.
Go to a bodega, and look for the imported coke. In fact, go anywhere where they import coke, and get it there.
You can even get the glass bottled coke, which is usually cane sugar.
You can't do this. Natural gas eats RO membranes, which would be the kind of filter you'd need for the drilling fluids also present in the well water.
It'd be nice to know he knew the procedure. However, if something unusual came up I'd prefer to have the guy who 'phones a friend' than the one who decides to wing it. If you're having a 2+ hour piece of surgery is a 5 min delay while the surgeon checks to ensure something is right really so bad?
Well, possibly. Anesthesia is pretty dangerous, and gets more dangerous the longer you're under it.
I mean, I'd probably want the surgeon to look it up too. But it does carry some risk.
Hitler's propaganda was written for the express purpose of harming the Jewish people
Not if you consider that Hitler believed all of his falsehoods to be true. Then, he was just informing the German people about the truth behind the Jews, and propaganda was his method. All propaganda consists of is presenting facts (again, real or imagined) while harboring a bias.
Oh, and of course there's going to be a Godwin strike or two. It's a discussion invoking propaganda.
I've not personally observed Wal-Mart raising their prices after driving the competition away
Just wait until they actually drive away their competition. They're general retail; wait until there's no other retailers.
Hitler's propaganda informed the Germans that the Jews were to blame for all of their problems, and that the Aryan race was supreme to all others. That doesn't excuse it from being propaganda.
Probably because we eat lots of things that have a high likelihood of being grown in soil with large quantities of heavy metals, and we have higher exposure in a factory than your average forest.