It doesn't serve 'justice'..'justice' would be exacting exactly the pain, suffering and torment their victim did.
It would also be rather impossible to determine, hard to carry out, be damaging to the people carrying it out (even if they did rationalise it in their heads), and in the end serve no real gain.
If there were a magic button that determined guilt, severity and carried out the 'perfect punishment' I'd be all over it. As it stands I'll be just as happy with a rabid animal being put down quick. Just be sure the animal was rabid, oh, and the right one too. Oops, sounds like communism now; nice theory, practical isn't panning out so well (cost, outcry, false positive, false negatives... ).
Provided you offer safe guards against pressuring (say, transfer to a prison in another state or such with interviews by third party to clearly state there is no duress) go for it. Though would also have to have something for those that would keep changing their minds just to screw with the system.
Not the AC but I'll echo the sentiment to a degree, at least the later half.
A stranger had a heart-attack by my work, and people were all upset-how tragic, how horrid, let's spend the day solemn and despaired. They were further upset that that I just continued on ignoring it (911 was informed, paramedics on site were in attendance).
"How can you be cheerful, a man is dying!"
"So are a few hundred others this moment, are you upset for them as well or only if they do it in your eyesight?"
They get especially annoyed if you then tap out seconds with 'One death, two deaths, one death, two deaths"
Not saying to go out of your way to disrespect a death, but to make a production over a particular stranger just because you were more aware of it seems hypocritical, or at least self-centered. Maybe even grandstanding? I'd been understanding they were related or knew them but.. meh.
You sure? 'cause that means you have to vette every nipple yourself, and you cannot unsee what you've seen.
Sometimes, sometimes it just might be okay to take that ashen faced pallor as trustworthy when your friend says, "You don't want to go in there".:P
'an area still providing nntp'. Well, I listed a National ISP for that even handles remote Canadian territories, so if Iqualuit, Nunavet can get NNTP, doesn't seem that hard. YCMMV. Now retention issues on binaries parts, that I can give you.
As for *finding* things..well.. believe it or not in the dark ages before google things got found. Libraries and word-of-mouth, etc.
Though if you're alone in the wilderness with a solar panel, laptop and sat modem, with Port 80 blocked, you might find it impossible. Than again, Gopher still works....
My ISP (Bell Sympatico) provided NNTP information in the jacket of the CD, besides DNS info and such.
As such, the wonders of alt.binaries are all yours to discover. HTTP filtering/redirecting affects this not.
From there grab mIRC and you're set...all the porn, apps, music, movies you want and never touch your browser, by either usenet or xdcc/fserv.
Can't speak for the anon, but I misread yours the first time as to saying 'call 911 if being assaulted instead of fighting back'. Took a second read to get it right.
I know mine was partially biased due to another thread on how 'your life isn't worth taking anothers' and such. Couple that with a narrative shift where 'response' refers to Martin to Zimmerman following, or Zimmerman's to 'Martin's attack', and I thought you were saying ZImmerman should have called 911.
I assume though, that the anon did the 'logical procession' where while you're calling 911 you get jumped..and so you 'lost initiative', so Martin's attack was the right choice. Would fit with the anon's 'pigs are the enemy' worldview.
Sometimes you don't have the option.
There is a fun one near where I am at the moment: it's an 80kmph highway. However, it's currently Canada's third season of the year: road repair.
Just on the leeside on the corner of a hill is a sudden drop do to 60 kmph...with 'Fines are doubled when workers are present"
That said, the sign marking the site of the speed change is far in advance of workers (so no worker safety issue), there have been no police cars trapping it, and no one is actually braking for it (so no driver safety issue so far).
Still, it's one of those times where you just don't have any advanced warning unless already familiar with the road.
Running with this: A slave race that are heirs to their deceased master's technology. They know how to operate it, but not how it works (akin to many drivers today). The race is pretty much doomed since they cannot effect repairs, but provided the ships were build well enough (self-repair, redundant systems), they could hang around for quite a while. Pillaging , breeding, and wandering aimlessly.
Interesting. I do believe I shall try your method as I used to not mind text ads, nor the odd banner advert.. until banners multiplied per page, became animations became videos and ended up with zero content in amongst all the noise. Resultant blanket block punished them all.
Your method sounds like it will reward the 'humble advertisers' again
No, Muslims are getting those people killed..they are the ones doing it. This isn't violence in response to violence, this is mobs motivated by their religious handlers. Hellfires, is even quotes out there that summed basically to 'I have not seen the video, but I was told it was against the Prophet and so the Americans must be punished.' Riots based on hearsay.
If the next bad thing declared was 'eating pork insults Mohammad and so kill all the pork eaters'... will you advise the banning of commercials for hotdogs? Leave accountability where it belongs: the ones being violent are at fault, regardless their ethnicity/religion/choice of food.
Personally I find the video more insulting in it's poor quality in both writing, acting and humour and technical work- a high school AV club could have done better.
By the same token, if we as natural animals can restore an extinct species, it's fit to be brought back and so should be? If we're not outside nature and its method to determine what's worthy, then it's natural if we bring them back....
Pretty sure all extinctions we caused were while tool-using, and now we've just got better tools. We're already past the natural stage of survival and propagation, and fully into the dominate and transform. This would just be the responsibility and restoration aspect. We've been playing god for a while now, might as well go full out and try the life-bringer part.
Though if we ever cross that goal post we'll need to come up with a good antonym for extinction.
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It doesn't serve 'justice'..'justice' would be exacting exactly the pain, suffering and torment their victim did.
It would also be rather impossible to determine, hard to carry out, be damaging to the people carrying it out (even if they did rationalise it in their heads), and in the end serve no real gain.
If there were a magic button that determined guilt, severity and carried out the 'perfect punishment' I'd be all over it. As it stands I'll be just as happy with a rabid animal being put down quick. Just be sure the animal was rabid, oh, and the right one too. Oops, sounds like communism now; nice theory, practical isn't panning out so well (cost, outcry, false positive, false negatives... ).
Provided you offer safe guards against pressuring (say, transfer to a prison in another state or such with interviews by third party to clearly state there is no duress) go for it. Though would also have to have something for those that would keep changing their minds just to screw with the system.
Not the AC but I'll echo the sentiment to a degree, at least the later half.
A stranger had a heart-attack by my work, and people were all upset-how tragic, how horrid, let's spend the day solemn and despaired. They were further upset that that I just continued on ignoring it (911 was informed, paramedics on site were in attendance).
"How can you be cheerful, a man is dying!"
"So are a few hundred others this moment, are you upset for them as well or only if they do it in your eyesight?"
They get especially annoyed if you then tap out seconds with 'One death, two deaths, one death, two deaths"
Not saying to go out of your way to disrespect a death, but to make a production over a particular stranger just because you were more aware of it seems hypocritical, or at least self-centered. Maybe even grandstanding? I'd been understanding they were related or knew them but.. meh.
Sure you can eat gold, you can even drink it. Personally can't see why but *shrug* to each their own.
The busted the third rail, but found electric fence plausible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_(2004_season)#Peeing_on_the_Third_Rail
You sure? 'cause that means you have to vette every nipple yourself, and you cannot unsee what you've seen. :P
Sometimes, sometimes it just might be okay to take that ashen faced pallor as trustworthy when your friend says, "You don't want to go in there".
'an area still providing nntp'. Well, I listed a National ISP for that even handles remote Canadian territories, so if Iqualuit, Nunavet can get NNTP, doesn't seem that hard. YCMMV. Now retention issues on binaries parts, that I can give you.
As for *finding* things..well.. believe it or not in the dark ages before google things got found. Libraries and word-of-mouth, etc.
Though if you're alone in the wilderness with a solar panel, laptop and sat modem, with Port 80 blocked, you might find it impossible. Than again, Gopher still works....
As I posted it I realised the second way the analogy worked. Initially I wrote it with ICQ's "simulated typing noises" in mind.
My ISP (Bell Sympatico) provided NNTP information in the jacket of the CD, besides DNS info and such.
As such, the wonders of alt.binaries are all yours to discover. HTTP filtering/redirecting affects this not.
From there grab mIRC and you're set...all the porn, apps, music, movies you want and never touch your browser, by either usenet or xdcc/fserv.
Page turn animation is to an e-reader what 'typewriter noise' is to a keyboard.
We Frankenstein 'em... 50.5% of the grey matter comes from Obama...48 from Mittens and so forth...
What could possibly go wrong?
Can't speak for the anon, but I misread yours the first time as to saying 'call 911 if being assaulted instead of fighting back'. Took a second read to get it right.
I know mine was partially biased due to another thread on how 'your life isn't worth taking anothers' and such. Couple that with a narrative shift where 'response' refers to Martin to Zimmerman following, or Zimmerman's to 'Martin's attack', and I thought you were saying ZImmerman should have called 911.
I assume though, that the anon did the 'logical procession' where while you're calling 911 you get jumped..and so you 'lost initiative', so Martin's attack was the right choice. Would fit with the anon's 'pigs are the enemy' worldview.
Sometimes you don't have the option.
There is a fun one near where I am at the moment: it's an 80kmph highway. However, it's currently Canada's third season of the year: road repair.
Just on the leeside on the corner of a hill is a sudden drop do to 60 kmph...with 'Fines are doubled when workers are present"
That said, the sign marking the site of the speed change is far in advance of workers (so no worker safety issue), there have been no police cars trapping it, and no one is actually braking for it (so no driver safety issue so far).
Still, it's one of those times where you just don't have any advanced warning unless already familiar with the road.
How do you propose to use wind farms to directly power my 2004 corolla?
Well first step is to build this huge metal grid over the tops of all roads and highways and juice it up...
:P
then we put a rod on your car that reaches up and brushes against the grid...
what..works for bumper cars
My guess would be they are referring to the explosions in the London Underground
bah. Why waste time with gas? We have missile. Just shoot smaller pieces with smaller missile. Even cheaper since smaller, right?
:P
Personally in favour of 5000 square miles of flypaper unrolled in orbit. Unsticky the sats you wanted to keep, deorbit the rest. Flawless, I know
400 * 52^2 ? No clue why but gets you the million..
Madam Butterfly, NC17 version. Coming soon in 3D
Running with this: A slave race that are heirs to their deceased master's technology. They know how to operate it, but not how it works (akin to many drivers today). The race is pretty much doomed since they cannot effect repairs, but provided the ships were build well enough (self-repair, redundant systems), they could hang around for quite a while. Pillaging , breeding, and wandering aimlessly.
Interesting. I do believe I shall try your method as I used to not mind text ads, nor the odd banner advert.. until banners multiplied per page, became animations became videos and ended up with zero content in amongst all the noise. Resultant blanket block punished them all.
Your method sounds like it will reward the 'humble advertisers' again
They do. To this date Congress has not passed a law stating your Facebook account name must be real.
Good gods, the constitution works at times!
You had me up until 'click on the article'
Well could always do:
The following video is intended for mature audiences.
Please select the century your culture has entered: [ 13th ] century.
No, Muslims are getting those people killed..they are the ones doing it. This isn't violence in response to violence, this is mobs motivated by their religious handlers. Hellfires, is even quotes out there that summed basically to 'I have not seen the video, but I was told it was against the Prophet and so the Americans must be punished.' Riots based on hearsay.
If the next bad thing declared was 'eating pork insults Mohammad and so kill all the pork eaters'... will you advise the banning of commercials for hotdogs? Leave accountability where it belongs: the ones being violent are at fault, regardless their ethnicity/religion/choice of food.
Personally I find the video more insulting in it's poor quality in both writing, acting and humour and technical work- a high school AV club could have done better.
By the same token, if we as natural animals can restore an extinct species, it's fit to be brought back and so should be? If we're not outside nature and its method to determine what's worthy, then it's natural if we bring them back....
Pretty sure all extinctions we caused were while tool-using, and now we've just got better tools. We're already past the natural stage of survival and propagation, and fully into the dominate and transform. This would just be the responsibility and restoration aspect. We've been playing god for a while now, might as well go full out and try the life-bringer part.
Though if we ever cross that goal post we'll need to come up with a good antonym for extinction.