Yes, they have the resources to do both, but is it not true that if they devote 100% of their resources to a single platform, they could release sooner for that platform? By my reasoning, EVERY company has the resources to release on multiple platforms at the same time; it just boils down to getting the biggest bang for their buck (as always). Google is after market share, and that means devoting resources appropriately.
Normally I'm all for competition, but last I knew most people don't have a choice when it comes to who they get broadband from. For example, I can choose between Comcast or dial-up.
I don't see how being competitive has anything to do with it when, in most cases, there is no competition to compete against.
The whole "do no evil" / China thing is quickly becoming one of my pet peeves. There is no all-encompassing moral code.
If you go to another country, you abide by their rules or you face punishment. The belief that "our" way is better than China's way is the same kind of thinking that got the US in the Iraq war. (Oh, look how wretched they are! We most go liberate them!) All countries have PR campaigns that try to keep the populace going a certain way, China just goes further.
Yes, my stance is a slippery slope; so is the opposite way of thinking. The point is, YOU can't be sure that YOU are GOOD.
So, you're making decisions about who to vote for based on one random person's view on the internet that happens to support that party? If I were like that, I'd never bother going to the polls. Also, I think he was just pointing out a logical fallacy, not what you were implying.
I'd love it if the mod that rated this Offtopic could explain just how in the hell this was offtopic. Yes, I'm fully aware that would negate the moderation.
Your VBV must be different than mine. All mine does is ask for another password, just as an added security feature in case somebody gets your card info and tries using it on a site that supports it.
You missed the point. This whole process was a way to keep the actual credit card numbers out of the hands of the seller, not an added level of security.
You're implying that people that are currently using Linux / OSX might switch to Microsoft because of how well Media Player works? I think this is incorrect. Most people that run Linux / OSX are doing it for a reason. They know what Windows is, and they either don't like it or need to use something else for compatibility reasons. Either way, trying to entice them off their platform probably isn't going to work. The people that don't fit in this category are probably people that have no idea what OS they are even running, like my parents.
The way I see it, MS is only going to lose market share if it doesn't actually give the user/dev some pleasure or benefit in using the MS platform. How long can you whip people until they just lose hope? I don't know, how long have they been around again?;-) Seriously, I wish that quality of product was the only thing considered when choosing, but I'm afraid that just isn't so. The fact that 80% of the software (I just pulled the number out of my ass, but it sounds right) out there runs on Windows only is a big reason I think.
So.... you're expecting Microsoft to spend money to help out the competition?
Yes, usually format owners want their format to be usable on as many platforms as possible. However, in this case, they already have dominance. I don't see how supporting Linux is going to help them at all, and they probably see it the same way.
The flip side is there probably aren't too many Linux users out there that would use it anyway, especially when mplayer works just fine usually. I know I wouldn't use it.
"If the citizens base their decisions on such flimsy evidence, then they deserve whatever politicians they elect."
Yeah, THEY deserve who gets elected, but that doesn't mean *I* deserve it. I'm not saying I'm the smartest person alive, but people make videos to stir up the lowest common denominator- those that can't seem to think for themselves. And they outnumber me by many times.
"Do you mean that if there existed a single political channel then no damaging evidence against any politician would be accepted, no matter how authentic?"
Perhaps not, but there would at least be recourse, as they would know who submitted the video. Also, if they have some sort of law prohibiting last minute videos, it would at least give the politician time to defend himself.
That all said, I still think Youtube should keep the videos up; I'm just pointing out it's not entirely all black and white here. Besides, Youtube will do whatever is best for business by weighing the money lost v.s. the PR hit, and I don't blame them.
From what I remember, Nothing was still owned by Interscope Records. Granted, it was run by Trent, but it's just a vanity label, and still owned by Interscope. This would leave me to think that Nothing was therefore part of the RIAA as well.
While it may be true that Trent doesn't like the RIAA (I wouldn't know, never talked to him) it still remains true that he's funding their coffers. I don't know his entire situation, but I'm thinking that he's big enough that if he wanted to leave Interscope and do his own thing on his own terms, he could do it easily.
Also, what you said about RIAA being the "only game in town" you are ABSURDLY wrong. Go look at the RIAA-radar and you'll see that there are PLENTY of other labels that don't belong to the RIAA, some other them even big enough to have some decent distribution. And all of them would eat their own shit for a chance to sign NiN.
If Trent was really "not a fan of the RIAA" then his label wouldn't be a fucking member of it. I wish it wasn't; my love for NiN is not as strong as my hatred for the RIAA.
I'm probably feeding a troll here, but you actually seem to believe what you say, hence the reply.
Hobbies don't have to be practical. In fact, they are almost by definition unpractical. Some people like to shoot arrows, some like to shoot guns. Some like kayaking, some like motor-boating. Just because somebody has different tastes than you doesn't make their hobby any less fun than yours. As somebody who both enjoys backpacking AND offroading, I can attest to this.
Please for the love of fuck don't turn this into a Linux / Apple flamewar.
The GP didn't mention a single thing about users, he was only commenting on the COMPANIES that make the products. People use different OS's for different reasons. Maybe they like the freedom or geek factor of Linux, or the look and feel of Apple or just run Windows so they can use 90% of the software on the internet. People have their reasons, just like you do. Stop putting words in people's mouths.
Besides, EVERY company defends their control over their customers. Although methods may differ, all companies want to keep their customers. Some try to keep them locked in with secret code, and some try to play Mr. Nice Guy, but the point is the same.
So you pull four quotes from who knows where and use that to support your statement. You must be a statistics major... because you sure don't seem to be a philosophy major.;-)
Seriously, your statement is one large fallacy.
Pop philosopher or pseudo philosopher, but not nearly close to being a true modern philosopher, such as Ayn Rand or Buckminster Fuller.
Oh I'm sorry. I didn't realize you had to be famous to be considered a philosopher now. Everybody thinks of philosophical topics. Everybody thinks about what is right and wrong and what the meaning of life is and if god exists and whatever. We're all philosophers... some people are just better / more "into" it than other people. Even though I'm not the best baseball player and don't spend any time viewing highlight reels of the pitcher I'll be batting against next game I'd still call myself a baseball player.
I can be a baseball player just as much as Yogi could be called a philosopher.
Yes, I realize I'm stretching things a bit... but I find your reasoning faulty.
I first thought you were trying to make a joke, but you seem serious. Now I'm wondering if you're just trying to troll, but I'm curious and I'll bite since you have good karma.
I think you would find a much better audience if you would, you know... post some published data to back up these claims of yours. Just because I say the earth is warming because of kittens doesn't make it so.
Seriously, I'm trying to understand how this could work. I believe I read once that the average temp of space is only a few degrees above absolute zero, mainly due to background radiation. Where does this energy of which you speak of come from? If the Sun isn't the primary source of a planet's heat, then why aren't the planets in our solar system more uniform in temp (after taking the atmospheric conditions into consideration, of course)?
First, he's hiding his played games. That's a very very rare thing to do, because it's just not necessary. Who cared what games you've played, unless you've modded something?
So he doesn't want his friends to know he plays "Barbie Super Sunshine Adventure 2"... that doesn't mean he's doing something wrong. (Unless you count playing a Barbie game.) You are basically saying the same thing as "because $person doesn't want police searching his home without a warrant, he must be hiding something!" It's totally false in both instances.
The number of repeat homicide offenders after parole is very low, but the percentage of paroled murderers committing another homicide is a lot higher than the percentage of population committing murder in the first place.
Your numbers may be sound, and (if they are sound) interesting... Howewver, comparing the percentage of people that commit murder v.s. the percentage of repeat offenders means nothing. The bigest reason is that you are comparing two percentages with VERY different numbers for the denominator. One statistic is found by dividing by the number of comvicted murderers, the other is found by dividing by the entire US population.
Just because you see it as 'posting facts' doesn't make it not trolling. If I go into an Audi car forum and start posting facts and figures about how much Audi cars are shit compared to every car made in the last 6 years, that is trolling, or maybe flamebait. The line is kind of blurry, I suppose. Either way, you could have picked a more constructive tone in your post... you likely wouldn't have been modded down, you still would have gotten your point across, and it might have led to more mature discussion.
I do agree, dependancies can be a pain. slapt-get was a giant leap, but most packages still don't have dependancy info. Frankly, it's only been a problem for me once or twice in the last few years, although that's probably due what I use slack for.
Frankly, your complaint of lack of configuration tools is just silly. If you're managing more than two servers AND you don't have scripts written up to do all these config changes, which are contained in simple text files for this very purpose, than I think you need to rethink your admin strategy. No offense, but this holds true for almost every distro. I don't care *how* snazzy the configuration GUI is, I don't want to do it more than once.
Oh yay, troll time! The only difference between a Gentoo troll and a Slackware troll is that I only have to put up with Slackware trolls every couple of years when a new release comes out.
Some people have different needs, hence different distros for different people. You wrongly assume that your needs are the same as everone else's. I know I'm going to regret this, but I'm very interested in knowing why you feel so strongly that Slackware is shit compared 'everything else.' And please don't bring up the 2.4 kernel. There are reasons for that, and 2.6 is included if you want it anyway.
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I'm guessing it has way more to do with managers not knowing what OSS is, rather than an actual decision made with full knowledge to keep it closed.
I'd say there's a big difference between somebody doing this knowingly, and a script that runs during an install that does it behind our backs.
Normally I'm all for competition, but last I knew most people don't have a choice when it comes to who they get broadband from. For example, I can choose between Comcast or dial-up.
I don't see how being competitive has anything to do with it when, in most cases, there is no competition to compete against.
The whole "do no evil" / China thing is quickly becoming one of my pet peeves. There is no all-encompassing moral code.
If you go to another country, you abide by their rules or you face punishment. The belief that "our" way is better than China's way is the same kind of thinking that got the US in the Iraq war. (Oh, look how wretched they are! We most go liberate them!) All countries have PR campaigns that try to keep the populace going a certain way, China just goes further.
Yes, my stance is a slippery slope; so is the opposite way of thinking. The point is, YOU can't be sure that YOU are GOOD.
So, you're making decisions about who to vote for based on one random person's view on the internet that happens to support that party? If I were like that, I'd never bother going to the polls. Also, I think he was just pointing out a logical fallacy, not what you were implying.
I'd love it if the mod that rated this Offtopic could explain just how in the hell this was offtopic. Yes, I'm fully aware that would negate the moderation.
Your VBV must be different than mine. All mine does is ask for another password, just as an added security feature in case somebody gets your card info and tries using it on a site that supports it.
You missed the point. This whole process was a way to keep the actual credit card numbers out of the hands of the seller, not an added level of security.
The way I see it, MS is only going to lose market share if it doesn't actually give the user/dev some pleasure or benefit in using the MS platform. How long can you whip people until they just lose hope? I don't know, how long have they been around again?
So.... you're expecting Microsoft to spend money to help out the competition?
Yes, usually format owners want their format to be usable on as many platforms as possible. However, in this case, they already have dominance. I don't see how supporting Linux is going to help them at all, and they probably see it the same way.
The flip side is there probably aren't too many Linux users out there that would use it anyway, especially when mplayer works just fine usually. I know I wouldn't use it.
"If the citizens base their decisions on such flimsy evidence, then they deserve whatever politicians they elect."
Yeah, THEY deserve who gets elected, but that doesn't mean *I* deserve it. I'm not saying I'm the smartest person alive, but people make videos to stir up the lowest common denominator- those that can't seem to think for themselves. And they outnumber me by many times.
"Do you mean that if there existed a single political channel then no damaging evidence against any politician would be accepted, no matter how authentic?"
Perhaps not, but there would at least be recourse, as they would know who submitted the video. Also, if they have some sort of law prohibiting last minute videos, it would at least give the politician time to defend himself.
That all said, I still think Youtube should keep the videos up; I'm just pointing out it's not entirely all black and white here. Besides, Youtube will do whatever is best for business by weighing the money lost v.s. the PR hit, and I don't blame them.
From what I remember, Nothing was still owned by Interscope Records. Granted, it was run by Trent, but it's just a vanity label, and still owned by Interscope. This would leave me to think that Nothing was therefore part of the RIAA as well.
While it may be true that Trent doesn't like the RIAA (I wouldn't know, never talked to him) it still remains true that he's funding their coffers. I don't know his entire situation, but I'm thinking that he's big enough that if he wanted to leave Interscope and do his own thing on his own terms, he could do it easily.
Also, what you said about RIAA being the "only game in town" you are ABSURDLY wrong. Go look at the RIAA-radar and you'll see that there are PLENTY of other labels that don't belong to the RIAA, some other them even big enough to have some decent distribution. And all of them would eat their own shit for a chance to sign NiN.
If Trent was really "not a fan of the RIAA" then his label wouldn't be a fucking member of it. I wish it wasn't; my love for NiN is not as strong as my hatred for the RIAA.
I'm probably feeding a troll here, but you actually seem to believe what you say, hence the reply.
Hobbies don't have to be practical. In fact, they are almost by definition unpractical. Some people like to shoot arrows, some like to shoot guns. Some like kayaking, some like motor-boating. Just because somebody has different tastes than you doesn't make their hobby any less fun than yours. As somebody who both enjoys backpacking AND offroading, I can attest to this.
Obviously, these are terrorist asteroids launched from the bug planet.
Please for the love of fuck don't turn this into a Linux / Apple flamewar.
The GP didn't mention a single thing about users, he was only commenting on the COMPANIES that make the products. People use different OS's for different reasons. Maybe they like the freedom or geek factor of Linux, or the look and feel of Apple or just run Windows so they can use 90% of the software on the internet. People have their reasons, just like you do. Stop putting words in people's mouths.
Besides, EVERY company defends their control over their customers. Although methods may differ, all companies want to keep their customers. Some try to keep them locked in with secret code, and some try to play Mr. Nice Guy, but the point is the same.
Shit, I hope I just didn't feed a troll.
Seriously, your statement is one large fallacy. Oh I'm sorry. I didn't realize you had to be famous to be considered a philosopher now. Everybody thinks of philosophical topics. Everybody thinks about what is right and wrong and what the meaning of life is and if god exists and whatever. We're all philosophers... some people are just better / more "into" it than other people. Even though I'm not the best baseball player and don't spend any time viewing highlight reels of the pitcher I'll be batting against next game I'd still call myself a baseball player.
I can be a baseball player just as much as Yogi could be called a philosopher.
Yes, I realize I'm stretching things a bit... but I find your reasoning faulty.
Not if they bought him all the parts.
I first thought you were trying to make a joke, but you seem serious. Now I'm wondering if you're just trying to troll, but I'm curious and I'll bite since you have good karma. I think you would find a much better audience if you would, you know... post some published data to back up these claims of yours. Just because I say the earth is warming because of kittens doesn't make it so. Seriously, I'm trying to understand how this could work. I believe I read once that the average temp of space is only a few degrees above absolute zero, mainly due to background radiation. Where does this energy of which you speak of come from? If the Sun isn't the primary source of a planet's heat, then why aren't the planets in our solar system more uniform in temp (after taking the atmospheric conditions into consideration, of course)?
Just because you see it as 'posting facts' doesn't make it not trolling. If I go into an Audi car forum and start posting facts and figures about how much Audi cars are shit compared to every car made in the last 6 years, that is trolling, or maybe flamebait. The line is kind of blurry, I suppose. Either way, you could have picked a more constructive tone in your post... you likely wouldn't have been modded down, you still would have gotten your point across, and it might have led to more mature discussion.
I do agree, dependancies can be a pain. slapt-get was a giant leap, but most packages still don't have dependancy info. Frankly, it's only been a problem for me once or twice in the last few years, although that's probably due what I use slack for.
Frankly, your complaint of lack of configuration tools is just silly. If you're managing more than two servers AND you don't have scripts written up to do all these config changes, which are contained in simple text files for this very purpose, than I think you need to rethink your admin strategy. No offense, but this holds true for almost every distro. I don't care *how* snazzy the configuration GUI is, I don't want to do it more than once.
Oh yay, troll time! The only difference between a Gentoo troll and a Slackware troll is that I only have to put up with Slackware trolls every couple of years when a new release comes out.
Some people have different needs, hence different distros for different people. You wrongly assume that your needs are the same as everone else's. I know I'm going to regret this, but I'm very interested in knowing why you feel so strongly that Slackware is shit compared 'everything else.' And please don't bring up the 2.4 kernel. There are reasons for that, and 2.6 is included if you want it anyway.
You forgot actors and professional sports players.