ACTUALLY, on the only episode of the show Consipracy Zone wth Kevin Neelan (I know, I know) that I made it all the way through, they had an interview with one of the guys the movie is supposed to be about, you know, a guy who travelled in time...
At the very least (if he's full of shit or not) that's a FIRST hand account of what happened.. He story was really interesting too, talking about how computers, cahgnes in cars, all that made the world kind of foreign to him, but the thing that really screamed 'I'm in the future!' for him was big screen color TV...
He ends his story with something that sent chills down my spine, no matter that I don't really believe it... he said something to the effect that after he got in touch with the right government agency, they put him in a radiation suit and sent him back...
I know, it's tough to buy, and I don't fully buy it, but it WAS a first hand account, and the guy looked honest. Crazy maybe, and scared, but honest.
Not that I'm swearing it's the truth like some of the trolls would have you believe just because I didn't buy one particular (weak) argument.
The comment above was in reference to the data in the article, or the lack thereof.
BUT, I do indeed believe that once someone has set out to debunk something, that is, state in certainty that it is false, of course they have the burden of proof. Any time you're telling someone 'this is the way it is' you've automatically burdened yourself with need of proof, if you intend to be anything other than noise without signal.
As far as the subject matter goes, well, that's not even my call to make, because I don't want any burden of proof on me... I have my thoughts, but I know that I don't have nearly enough info to draw any real conclusions.:-)
Actually, as a nerd (I said it so trolls don't have to...) I'm gonna point out that, no, that's not how Star Trek warp works...
IIRC, Star Trek warp works by shaping the very space around it into a sort of elptical bubble, and that the pressure exerted by realspace on this displaced space squeezes the displaced space (and the engines displacing it) out like a wet seed from between your fingers. The ship itself sits (relatively) stationary with it's own little pocket of space, so the matter of the ship (and crew) itself doesn't experience hardcore relativity conditions.... Something like that.
You call that 1 page, full of nothing article a debunk? Pffffft.
There is not a single shred of any kind of detail about anything having to do with it at all, with the exception of saying a guy doesn't think that's what t was anymore. If this is enough information to debunk something then according to my late grandmother, there's nothing past Pluto but Heaven and Hell, guess I debunked all that astronomy stuff.
I read a few years ago that if the people in China (just China) were to line up and walk past (ppl who die get out of line, ppl who are born go to the back) at a rate of 1 per second, the lne would never end due to the birthrate.
I have no references for this, and no idea if it's true... The perfect slashdot post.;-)
Don't just come here assuming you know what you're talking about and make up some math to go along with it. Look up the literacy rate. It's gone up about 3 percent since the 1920s all the while lowering the bar of what 'literacy' means.
You're not smarter than your grandparents just because you read 'Wired', I promise.
The post you QUOTED from the article forces me to take the issue up with you, not them.
And, to tell the truth, it really LOOKS like you're saying that the rich in this country have too much of a tax burden on them, and the poor aren't pulling their weight. This is the dumbest thing I've heard all year. (mind you, it IS early in the year) Breaking the backs, hearts, and minds of those that give the labor of thier life so that you can buy a yacht (and so they can afford to eat, and pay MOST of the bills, MOST of the time) isn't enough?
And about that last bit. I never said TECHNOLOGY makes us dumb, I truely believe that the internet (and schizo as it is) s helping to undue the dumbing down wrought upon us by TV. Oh, and correcting my spelling? BRILLIANT! You too-smart-for-the-rest-of-slashdot superior mind you.
Personal REsposibility he says, ahhh yes, social darwinism at it's greatest. Let's see, the people have to accept 2minimum wage jobs (or JUST above) in order to feed their families and pay the rent, while paying out 4/5ths of one of those checks a week to childcare in order to sqeeze that last 20% out of the second check to pay the bills. Not that many people in this country have a pension anymore, but if you do, when it gets taken by those who need to have a 10 million dollar party for their 13 y/o daughter, well, you just weren't resposible enough to have been born wealthy.
You don't want anything even CLOSE to personal resposibility to be a driving force, you just want a reason to tell the people whose lives you're marginalizing that it's their fault you have their money.
Until someone invents a dgital interface for humans then at some point, even if t's the last in the chain, you'll HAVE to convert the signals into analog (like, you know, colors and sounds). This step is NOT optional, and therefore there will ALWAYS be an analog outlet to get copy from.
DRM will be defeated every time until there is found a way to send an encrypted digital signal into someone's skull and decrypt it in there, and even then, somebody's gonna have a dongle poking out from behind their left ear, spewing the latest copy of 'Rocky DCLXVI' unencrypted.
I'm really impressed that the appeal to Sept. 11th came in on the FIRST article. Slashdot should be proud to have the right wing spin machine view it with the importance that it receives.
Forget college, forget healthcare, we need radio bandwidth and tax cuts for the richest to help fight the terrorists.
Sickening.
80 years ago people were expected to read Shakespear in the 4th grade, now we (MAYBE) get into it by high school. We've been dumbed down folks, and if you don't think TV played a large part in that, well, you watch too much TV...
I have a little insight into this... I was a chimp once for an ex IBM dvision that was it's 'own' company now. They made 1 non-IBM product, and that was one of the projects I worked on. This project required me to install a satellite receiver card and a transmitter card into Dell PCs and test them (before AND after, different tests). The Dells had a 0.2% fault rate out of the box... 1 out of 500 isn't too shabby.
Now, as for an IBM server project I worked on, we had to use IBM servers (5600 series IIRC), installing some parts(2nd proc, another power suppy, tape backup etc.), replacing the OS, setting up the thinclients, stuff like that. Those servers had a 20% failure rate. That's right, 1 out of 5 was bad out of the box. It pissed me off frankly.
Now, being that this used to be a division of IBM (with IBM employees still working onsite) perhaps this high rate is a representative of my grandparent-posts INTERNAL failure rate... Either way, that seems high to me, but supports my parent post's observation.
You know, if buy a game, and the physical medium becomes damaged, I have absolutly NO qualms about going out to torrent or dcc land and picking up a new copy. I use the key that I purchased, don't install the cracks, and I'm ready to rock...
And I'll second the plug. This game has kept me entertained for years when the games I actually buy get old and obnoxious. Something about it keeps me commin back.
Download this game. It's not warez, it's free (as in beer) and high quality. Oh, and for the most part, punkbuster actually keeps out the punks.
Don't keep saying 'I need a medic!' over and over tho, I hate that and give the offenders my knife (combat surgery?) instead of my morphine.:-D
You're gonna think this is a bad dea the first time you're at a long red light and the guy in front of you switches off the car, and switches on the game. Some people are so self important that I don't think it's a stretch to imagine someone saying to himself "oh, they can sit there for another minute or so, I'm on the last lap" or some obnoxiousness.
I've been preaching this same message for about 10 years now. RAM is where it's at if you want a high powered machine.
Back in late 2001 was the last time I did a full machine upgrade. Athlon XP 2400+, 2 40 gig twin HDs (raid-striped, and fast as hell), and a gig of RAM. The machine has had another HD added, and both the proc and mobo have been replaced (due to 2 separate accidents) but the RAM has stayed constant and has kept the machine running nice and smooth ever since. Still, to this day, this machine serves me rightly. My vid card is old too, radeon9600Pro/256MB, but it works just fine, all the way up to and including Doom3 (the newest cycle/eating game I've run on it).
I think it's time for an upgrade, as my wife has developed a greater interest in PCs and takes up too much of my chair time in front of the monitor, leaving me with my ancient laptop (thank you linux), and this time it's gonna be 4 gigs or bust...
That would be nice... Legal and unfettered denial of service attacks to any server your computer sends informaton to that you didn't agree could be sent.
I suppose your question is determined by how much you really care about OTHER PEOPLES civil liberties... It's like this, if you're willing to give up someone to the state for profit (even the wonderful drug of challenge fighting with neat tools) then you really don't care about civil liberties and should probably stop telling yourself that you do. That way you can either go on about your life being a sneaky bastard and enjoying all the benefits of fucking over your neighbors, or you should do some soul searchiing and fix the problem.
BTW, the use of the word 'you' isn't meant in a personal way, just in the general, I'm not flaming you.
I totally agree with you 100% What you're talking about is no different than an organ donor program. It doesn't matter if you believe an embryo is a person or not, either way if it's already dead, you're just harvesting 'organs'.
This whole thing could have been avoided if they had shown that they know they have the power of the law behind them if they had put something on the site like so many of the newspages I read do. Here's a quote from Common Dreams, this little bt appears on the bottom of everry article they post, and very similar bits appear on many other sites.
This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.
And personally, I think it's rather plain that the case could be made that providing lyrics to published songs could be considered 'fair use' for both research and educational purposes. That's my $0.02.
Actually, I'm almost SURE it's okay to rent out videos without any kind of fee providing that you legally own the physical video (a for real bought movie, not a copy) and that you're not aware of the renter doing illegal things with it (copying, playing for a paying audience, etc.).
I am not a lawyer tho, so I dunno... I DO know that there are far too many mom and pop shops out there renting out movies for there to be TOO much hassle about it.
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ACTUALLY, on the only episode of the show Consipracy Zone wth Kevin Neelan (I know, I know) that I made it all the way through, they had an interview with one of the guys the movie is supposed to be about, you know, a guy who travelled in time...
At the very least (if he's full of shit or not) that's a FIRST hand account of what happened.. He story was really interesting too, talking about how computers, cahgnes in cars, all that made the world kind of foreign to him, but the thing that really screamed 'I'm in the future!' for him was big screen color TV...
He ends his story with something that sent chills down my spine, no matter that I don't really believe it... he said something to the effect that after he got in touch with the right government agency, they put him in a radiation suit and sent him back...
I know, it's tough to buy, and I don't fully buy it, but it WAS a first hand account, and the guy looked honest. Crazy maybe, and scared, but honest.
Not that I'm swearing it's the truth like some of the trolls would have you believe just because I didn't buy one particular (weak) argument.
The comment above was in reference to the data in the article, or the lack thereof.
:-)
BUT, I do indeed believe that once someone has set out to debunk something, that is, state in certainty that it is false, of course they have the burden of proof.
Any time you're telling someone 'this is the way it is' you've automatically burdened yourself with need of proof, if you intend to be anything other than noise without signal.
As far as the subject matter goes, well, that's not even my call to make, because I don't want any burden of proof on me... I have my thoughts, but I know that I don't have nearly enough info to draw any real conclusions.
Actually, as a nerd (I said it so trolls don't have to...) I'm gonna point out that, no, that's not how Star Trek warp works...
;-)
IIRC, Star Trek warp works by shaping the very space around it into a sort of elptical bubble, and that the pressure exerted by realspace on this displaced space squeezes the displaced space (and the engines displacing it) out like a wet seed from between your fingers. The ship itself sits (relatively) stationary with it's own little pocket of space, so the matter of the ship (and crew) itself doesn't experience hardcore relativity conditions.... Something like that.
Star WARS uses hyperspace, another dimension.
All that, and I still get good lookin trim.
You call that 1 page, full of nothing article a debunk?
Pffffft.
There is not a single shred of any kind of detail about anything having to do with it at all, with the exception of saying a guy doesn't think that's what t was anymore. If this is enough information to debunk something then according to my late grandmother, there's nothing past Pluto but Heaven and Hell, guess I debunked all that astronomy stuff.
Foolish.
Completely unresearched factoid:
;-)
I read a few years ago that if the people in China (just China) were to line up and walk past (ppl who die get out of line, ppl who are born go to the back) at a rate of 1 per second, the lne would never end due to the birthrate.
I have no references for this, and no idea if it's true... The perfect slashdot post.
He's not, he's just supposed to have a -35000 or so credt rating for the rest of his life.
And good for him too, after all, he should know of a business or two that'll give him a car or mortgauge no matter WHAT his credit rating.*
It IS nice to see someone take it in the monitary browneye like this tho.
* certain restrictions may apply
Not just dumbest, but MEANEST too, that's from all that stopping smart people. Since they cann't out-smart the smart ppl, they have to out-mean them.
Don't just come here assuming you know what you're talking about and make up some math to go along with it. Look up the literacy rate. It's gone up about 3 percent since the 1920s all the while lowering the bar of what 'literacy' means.
You're not smarter than your grandparents just because you read 'Wired', I promise.
The post you QUOTED from the article forces me to take the issue up with you, not them.
And, to tell the truth, it really LOOKS like you're saying that the rich in this country have too much of a tax burden on them, and the poor aren't pulling their weight. This is the dumbest thing I've heard all year. (mind you, it IS early in the year) Breaking the backs, hearts, and minds of those that give the labor of thier life so that you can buy a yacht (and so they can afford to eat, and pay MOST of the bills, MOST of the time) isn't enough?
And about that last bit. I never said TECHNOLOGY makes us dumb, I truely believe that the internet (and schizo as it is) s helping to undue the dumbing down wrought upon us by TV. Oh, and correcting my spelling? BRILLIANT! You too-smart-for-the-rest-of-slashdot superior mind you.
Personal REsposibility he says, ahhh yes, social darwinism at it's greatest. Let's see, the people have to accept 2minimum wage jobs (or JUST above) in order to feed their families and pay the rent, while paying out 4/5ths of one of those checks a week to childcare in order to sqeeze that last 20% out of the second check to pay the bills. Not that many people in this country have a pension anymore, but if you do, when it gets taken by those who need to have a 10 million dollar party for their 13 y/o daughter, well, you just weren't resposible enough to have been born wealthy.
You don't want anything even CLOSE to personal resposibility to be a driving force, you just want a reason to tell the people whose lives you're marginalizing that it's their fault you have their money.
That's a pipe dream.
Until someone invents a dgital interface for humans then at some point, even if t's the last in the chain, you'll HAVE to convert the signals into analog (like, you know, colors and sounds). This step is NOT optional, and therefore there will ALWAYS be an analog outlet to get copy from.
DRM will be defeated every time until there is found a way to send an encrypted digital signal into someone's skull and decrypt it in there, and even then, somebody's gonna have a dongle poking out from behind their left ear, spewing the latest copy of 'Rocky DCLXVI' unencrypted.
I'm really impressed that the appeal to Sept. 11th came in on the FIRST article. Slashdot should be proud to have the right wing spin machine view it with the importance that it receives.
Forget college, forget healthcare, we need radio bandwidth and tax cuts for the richest to help fight the terrorists.
Sickening.
80 years ago people were expected to read Shakespear in the 4th grade, now we (MAYBE) get into it by high school. We've been dumbed down folks, and if you don't think TV played a large part in that, well, you watch too much TV...
I have a little insight into this... I was a chimp once for an ex IBM dvision that was it's 'own' company now. They made 1 non-IBM product, and that was one of the projects I worked on. This project required me to install a satellite receiver card and a transmitter card into Dell PCs and test them (before AND after, different tests). The Dells had a 0.2% fault rate out of the box... 1 out of 500 isn't too shabby.
Now, as for an IBM server project I worked on, we had to use IBM servers (5600 series IIRC), installing some parts(2nd proc, another power suppy, tape backup etc.), replacing the OS, setting up the thinclients, stuff like that. Those servers had a 20% failure rate. That's right, 1 out of 5 was bad out of the box. It pissed me off frankly.
Now, being that this used to be a division of IBM (with IBM employees still working onsite) perhaps this high rate is a representative of my grandparent-posts INTERNAL failure rate... Either way, that seems high to me, but supports my parent post's observation.
You know, if buy a game, and the physical medium becomes damaged, I have absolutly NO qualms about going out to torrent or dcc land and picking up a new copy. I use the key that I purchased, don't install the cracks, and I'm ready to rock...
That got me thinking about somethning funny see... How bout a worm that pops up windows saying "If you used linux, you wouldn't have this malware!"
That's just funny to me.
It's that spicy latin beat!
And I'll second the plug. This game has kept me entertained for years when the games I actually buy get old and obnoxious. Something about it keeps me commin back.
:-D
Download this game. It's not warez, it's free (as in beer) and high quality. Oh, and for the most part, punkbuster actually keeps out the punks.
Don't keep saying 'I need a medic!' over and over tho, I hate that and give the offenders my knife (combat surgery?) instead of my morphine.
You're gonna think this is a bad dea the first time you're at a long red light and the guy in front of you switches off the car, and switches on the game. Some people are so self important that I don't think it's a stretch to imagine someone saying to himself "oh, they can sit there for another minute or so, I'm on the last lap" or some obnoxiousness.
I've been preaching this same message for about 10 years now. RAM is where it's at if you want a high powered machine.
Back in late 2001 was the last time I did a full machine upgrade.
Athlon XP 2400+, 2 40 gig twin HDs (raid-striped, and fast as hell), and a gig of RAM. The machine has had another HD added, and both the proc and mobo have been replaced (due to 2 separate accidents) but the RAM has stayed constant and has kept the machine running nice and smooth ever since. Still, to this day, this machine serves me rightly. My vid card is old too, radeon9600Pro/256MB, but it works just fine, all the way up to and including Doom3 (the newest cycle/eating game I've run on it).
I think it's time for an upgrade, as my wife has developed a greater interest in PCs and takes up too much of my chair time in front of the monitor, leaving me with my ancient laptop (thank you linux), and this time it's gonna be 4 gigs or bust...
That would be nice... Legal and unfettered denial of service attacks to any server your computer sends informaton to that you didn't agree could be sent.
H
No and Hell No.
I suppose your question is determined by how much you really care about OTHER PEOPLES civil liberties... It's like this, if you're willing to give up someone to the state for profit (even the wonderful drug of challenge fighting with neat tools) then you really don't care about civil liberties and should probably stop telling yourself that you do. That way you can either go on about your life being a sneaky bastard and enjoying all the benefits of fucking over your neighbors, or you should do some soul searchiing and fix the problem.
BTW, the use of the word 'you' isn't meant in a personal way, just in the general, I'm not flaming you.
Cause the Republizard Masters haven't said to?
I totally agree with you 100% What you're talking about is no different than an organ donor program. It doesn't matter if you believe an embryo is a person or not, either way if it's already dead, you're just harvesting 'organs'.
Mod parent up.
That is a handy piece of code you've pointed out there.... thanks.
This whole thing could have been avoided if they had shown that they know they have the power of the law behind them if they had put something on the site like so many of the newspages I read do. Here's a quote from Common Dreams, this little bt appears on the bottom of everry article they post, and very similar bits appear on many other sites.
This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.
And personally, I think it's rather plain that the case could be made that providing lyrics to published songs could be considered 'fair use' for both research and educational purposes.
That's my $0.02.
Actually, I'm almost SURE it's okay to rent out videos without any kind of fee providing that you legally own the physical video (a for real bought movie, not a copy) and that you're not aware of the renter doing illegal things with it (copying, playing for a paying audience, etc.).
I am not a lawyer tho, so I dunno... I DO know that there are far too many mom and pop shops out there renting out movies for there to be TOO much hassle about it.