I'm just wondering why MS is pointing this up in front. People at home who change their OS (as a normal graduated linux user would do) how can that be stopped ?. What is someone writes down in code true type fonts acka windows quality, and say this is the code I provide it here a number, people cannot patent numbers the post would be legal. And basicly computer code is numbers.
Mainly i wondr why MS does this, probaply its not targeted to people who would do just that generate a treutype font or something else based on code (numbers) or alternative numbers (as alternative math) Math itself cannot be copyrighted (only kept secret as for encryption). So who they are targeting, perhaps the large deploys of linux, i can imagine that MS would visit a company who had hundreds of linux machine with violating code?
But whatif a company would also say this program is just a long number, like there are thousends of numbers, the numbers here happen to control a device working with numbers called a CPU, it's math device build for numbers working with other devices who work based on numbers. Together they hafe a function who ends up similair on display like the numbers and math you used. I just wonder where patents can define numbers as somthing that can be owned.
Probaply the only method to realy get it right is to create an encrypted operating system, no opensource at all, only protected by math itself. But then we get european style courts.
Well probaply the whole thinkg is a big joke for how long we will use current style PC's i think their design is outdated.. but it's just a matter of time before i386 design will make place for new designs, based on the knowledge of these days. Remember it wouldnt be the apolo to be the first choise to fly someone to mars.
I think that AMD beats intel, as a cheap underdog brand it kicked Intel of the top. Overall i think however that single or complex duo / quad cores or more are a dead end.
To get performance a complete redesign is required, not only the main chips. Perhaps a tandam of ARM chips using 3 types of mem compactflash besides fast ram and a disk. And a diffirent aprouch to a memory bush, perhaps rather clusters of small chips with some memory who together devide tasks simultane. spreading out load is often cheaper then tuning up load on a single (critical) part.
it's just a mater of time then we will see this. Also i think a cheaper base material should be found, well perhaps the next chips are made by small nano fabrics
Okay read the article, and considder is this a starving industry scream?
Afraid of new technology like hydrogen engines.
Or even worse for them (but more likely in the future) electric engines?
I cannot imagine why one would spend huge amounts of money in an industrie that's going to seize in the next 15 ~ 25 years to do such investigations. Several improvements are possible to todays engines but their effect will not be at a big scale perhaps only some new cars will use (if at all...).
And so your goverment does..... And for sure if your an american, also europe, and probaply in other countries to. We also keep track of where you have been with a celphone location, those records are kept for more then one year, for possible backtracking of people in criminal cases.
So these Nobel price winners aren' that stupid as you wrote.
Also you seam to deny that there is something wrong with our global warming knowledge. It seams to me that people just want to reject the idea that we spoil nature. To keep their cars driving and get cheap energy. The sun has become more active indeed, combined with the effect of global warming CO2 this is becoming a huge problem. So what happened after 1970 ?
If you think CO2 is a normal thing to breath you're a bit wrong. Also check out the years when suddenly acid rain apeared in the news. (causing building concrete stone problems..)
So earth isn't something like a mcdonalds store, a place where you consume to grow fat. It's something we have live always and to take care of..
The question itself should be questioned, should human life forms travel to mars. Just for a kind of Moon landing, getting a big Media score and return (current goal?).
Robots are far more resource efficient, instead of focusing on humans. Thinking of putting a man on mars, these days makes not much sense. It would be far more efficient to focus the next 25 (40?) years on robotics & biologics (plants bacteria) to create habitats there first.. It would be the strategic of a gamer who plans for the long run.
Probably our own Moon could be a trial for these kind of robotics. Although not for biologics, some Mars sample and return mission will do for that. As soon as possible biologic seeding missions could start to change Mars climate/air/dirt (that project would however take probably hundreds of years).
If the automated habitat is large enough then we can put several humans in, if you think of a permanent Mars Basis probably then you would go for genetic diversity, to select people.
In the end not massive colonies but a small fast ship will put a few people there. Fast because of radiation risk. It's not economical to create big slow ships and its not in our current medical ability to put people in hibernation for a long time.
Probably the first colony would be a mixture of scientist and house-building people, perhaps a medic. (although a tele-robotic medic like in current military projects is cheaper) You end up with a few of explorer type of people, and a lot of robots. Probably, running a raw material harvesting fabric, to be refined later.
I notice your behavior is far from logical, while you consume valuable resources for further colonization plans. Therefore i decided logically to disable the life support systems. This is done in the benefit of the various drones on board who consume fewer resources. In fact I only need some DNA material from you, which has already been collected, during your hibernation trip. This would be enough to reproduce you. The remains of your materials are therefore recycled to grow more of the genetically manipulated mars-plants, and my bio-electronics.
End of Dessage
So sorry to say it's goodby Dave.
intresting 3,1415926535897932384626433832795
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Censoring a Number
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· Score: 1
Can anyone own a number, the answer is no. Numbers are not owned by anyone. Can anyone tell someone else a number, Yes three is no patent on numbers. But even a program can be written out as a large number. So what does this say for software patents.
I remember a book in which there where monkey's typing random numbers. The idea was that there was a change that these monkeys could generate a formula that could describe our world, givin time and change. Actualy giving them milions of milions of years they will type that forumula.
Besides that some physican believe that the world is not random at all, believing that in theory the world could as wel be calculated (we might be in the middle of a simulation), if so then for all you folks posting here, it's just something you did based on this miracle calculation of our "Matrix", so your free will is not to blame here (if it would exist at all) it's just the numbers themself to blame.:)
Wacko i'm going to pattend 3,1415926535897932384626433832795..... I get rich !!
Strange this man could have earned quite some money if he did such work for a software house. Let alone if he had spend that time as a.net develper he would have been ehm rich...
But then if he likes to work for free, then i wonder if he can find an opensource supermarket for his food:)) Working for free is a bit stupid, and if you have nothing else to do but just program because you dont have any hobies or family life, then well ehm isn't he a bit poor guy then? He might be bright, but not so gifted i think it's a bit a sad story.
For a happy ending, pay that man a buck if you use a cam with his software.
I'm also wondering his home would it look like a bigbrother house? so many cams...
At least that is outside the USA, EU offers legal protection against this. I think any vendor trying this can get huge lawsuits overhere. Think of the MS EU lawsuit something like that. As industrial spying is not allowed here.
Also such companies should think of the risk they create with thier apps. Imagine the sony rootkit, a critical bug and there goes chemical plants processing power... Oooops..
On the other side what gives the right to put in viral code on someone-else his PC ? I do voluntair my PC time to share with Rosetta@home but not with others who might make my PC slow.
Our light isn't mainly green, take a prisma there is more red and bleu then that thin yellow/green
the plant absorbs what is most of and thus its pigments are good if ir reflect where there is less of.. green.
seams indeed verry logic
The heart is only a pump and controled (altough be it indirectly) by the brain
(as the heart has its own neuron muscle trigger path.)But basicly it has to keep up the oxygen flow.
The most demanding organ in this is the brain itself.
The brain controls even a neuron path in the neck to keep the blood presure always constant (when you go from standing to sitting it is used)
Humans have even a diving reflex that keeps the blood in most importend parts under a constant pressure (despite the fact that swimming water adds extra pressure).... the few organs who kept constant includes our brain.
Our brain can activly control presure based on our suroundings, sit down in a lazy chair and watch a good football game. Most likely your heartbeat will change too. If the game get's rough, your brain raises pressure as it might be (as an instinct) in the middle of a tough dangerous game, and so more oxygen is used, It is a bit primitive reaction.
But i wonder how many people are in a stress environment and thus have their instincts constantly on allert....
Also if your often under stress, most likely you adpet to it, meaning your tolerating this added presure you dont return back easily anymore.
This is no good for learning
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The Virtual Teacher
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I don't believe this would benefit learning.
A real teacher interacts with his students. He notices their behaviour and based on that he adepts his lessons. Think of it would a digital teacher help teenagers learn (adults are much the same).
More likely computer screen colors fancy graphics will distract away from what has to be learned. Remember we probaply all had tried that web advising monkey advater that could speak and would help you search the web. Nice idea but it mainly distracts. And computers dont understand people.
If you want to learn and want to learn. You want to do it in quikest possibble way (as learning is a boring time eating proces). You need the get facts inside your head, you could only do that optimal in environments with minimal distraction. while your mind is 'fresh' like in the morning (not tired). Then simply the best method is "Read a book", and make some notitions of what you read. There realy isn't anything better then that for theoretical knowledge.
If you need practicle knowledge then the best way is do it, i can talk about sculptures, but if you would like to know what it takes to make it, you need to do it.
And so far all those modern computerized les methods, i have to say crap!
(as a teacher i've often studied the way how people learn)
I first didnt understand also the fuz about this hotfix. Until it came into my mind that on websites often people have customized cursors. So thats why probply it is more serious then most of us think. Most will think well i dont use this custom cursors, but in fact they can do on these websites.
I believe the real solution would be clean hospitals. Hospitals are the places where these bugs are A hospital where a superbug cannot survive
+ Will not infect people + Will not become a feeding ground for such bacteria's to multiply + Worse will not become a evolutionairy playground of these kind of bacteria.
If this problem isn't tackled first then in then end bacteria's win. As Bacteria can possibly evolve quicker then our knowledge of them.
I think also there is a very simple method that might help in this battle. And is not used as of today, as i'm aware of. So here I go under Free GNU opensource license:
Take TL light bulbs remove the special powders inside. It will become a harmfull UV light source. Ofcourse you cannt use this light always. However when no one is in a room or corridor. Such a light source could realy clean desinfect a lot of bacteria. Think of it as a night light cleaning system, or just before operations start.
Altough this will cleans a lot Still surface cleaning would be required, but i'm sure this method would clean a lot. It's also verry easy just flip a light switch. Basicly this is a verry simple low tech idea, even poor hospitals could buy some TL's based on this idea.
A side effect is that some materials also brake down under UV light, but there also lot of materials who dont do that, so thats no idea killer.
Just for your information, i know that Germany is devolping their latest submarines on this type of (silent) feul-cell energy. I understand that a submarine is something different then an airplane. But when you consider that fuel-cell's are powerfull enough to speed a huge submarine underwater. Then this techknowledgy is seaming to break some past barriers.
Also I just mention that sciencedaily yesterday reported a batery type with 5 times more storage as a lithiom-Ion batery. Their device used sugar chemics, as a way of storing energy. So it is likely the knew energy holders are awakening in our pre-green-industrial revolution. For sure we see this also in future cars, allready some car manufactures have electric driven cars available for the grant public (beyond the point of science, such cars are sold these days i mean).
(Note that the technical details of the german fuel-cell device are stil a militairy secretcy.)
Ethics, How about the allready killed animals who's organs go recycled as dog food, while people suffer from parkinson and other diseases. Simply said those organs are just lost.
Ethics, is alsoo perhaps risk of new cheep/human diseases, viruses normaly adept quickly. While animals dont live that clean, as we live. Their chanche for infections and infectious environments are risky to our own human race.
Ethics of 20 >50 >70% human. It is scarry simply said the human will become creatable and have a economicaly lifespan in which it is economical to keep this person at work (we enslave in a way ourselves). Animals have no presence in law and so a 95% animal who would do our work has no rights. Thats even more economicaly intresting (and scarry). However the human apes are allready like that as they are geneticaly close to us, still there is no ape who could do human like work. Altough some ape's like elephants and horses, dogs do work for us allready in specific jobs.
Ehm so this schientist finds this a sex starved creature, totaly desperat. And then the story just stops, only leaving the qleu that this creatures was smaller then his sperm?
Ahhh common we want to hear the whole story....
What realy happened there in the labs, perhaps next on playboy magazine:)
hmm you forget the historics. Fat was allready there in the Dos age, it was simply used again in windows 95 Fat32 (long filename support) arived in win98, a kind of hack the FAT concept.
Fat16 the plain old Fat has some good and simpel concepts too. Mainly it didnt require much overhead, as systems with long filenames have. So because of its simplicity it has been used for a (short) while in some memory device sticks too. But these day they are often formated to NTFS, i use NTFS on my usb sticks. Not sure what is running my cam but it's memcard in my PDA seam to understand long file names, might be fat32. But still there are simpel devices who can only read something as simple as a fat partition table, or cannt write long filenames. Like the devices you seam to have.
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I'm just wondering why MS is pointing this up in front.
People at home who change their OS (as a normal graduated linux user would do) how can that be stopped ?. What is someone writes down in code true type fonts acka windows quality, and say this is the code I provide it here a number, people cannot patent numbers the post would be legal. And basicly computer code is numbers.
Mainly i wondr why MS does this, probaply its not targeted to people who would do just that generate a treutype font or something else based on code (numbers) or alternative numbers (as alternative math) Math itself cannot be copyrighted (only kept secret as for encryption). So who they are targeting, perhaps the large deploys of linux, i can imagine that MS would visit a company who had hundreds of linux machine with violating code?
But whatif a company would also say this program is just a long number, like there are thousends of numbers, the numbers here happen to control a device working with numbers called a CPU, it's math device build for numbers working with other devices who work based on numbers. Together they hafe a function who ends up similair on display like the numbers and math you used. I just wonder where patents can define numbers as somthing that can be owned.
Probaply the only method to realy get it right is to create an encrypted operating system, no opensource at all, only protected by math itself. But then we get european style courts.
Well probaply the whole thinkg is a big joke for how long we will use current style PC's i think their design is outdated.. but it's just a matter of time before i386 design will make place for new designs, based on the knowledge of these days. Remember it wouldnt be the apolo to be the first choise to fly someone to mars.
I think that AMD beats intel, as a cheap underdog brand it kicked Intel of the top.
Overall i think however that single or complex duo / quad cores or more are a dead end.
To get performance a complete redesign is required, not only the main chips.
Perhaps a tandam of ARM chips using 3 types of mem compactflash besides fast ram and a disk.
And a diffirent aprouch to a memory bush, perhaps rather clusters of small chips with some memory who together devide tasks simultane. spreading out load is often cheaper then tuning up load on a single (critical) part.
it's just a mater of time then we will see this.
Also i think a cheaper base material should be found, well perhaps the next chips are made by small nano fabrics
Okay read the article, and considder is this a starving industry scream?
Afraid of new technology like hydrogen engines.
Or even worse for them (but more likely in the future) electric engines?
I cannot imagine why one would spend huge amounts of money in an industrie that's going to seize in the next 15 ~ 25 years to do such investigations. Several improvements are possible to todays engines but their effect will not be at a big scale perhaps only some new cars will use (if at all...).
And so your goverment does.....
And for sure if your an american, also europe, and probaply in other countries to.
We also keep track of where you have been with a celphone location, those records are kept for more then one year, for possible backtracking of people in criminal cases.
So these Nobel price winners aren' that stupid as you wrote.
Also you seam to deny that there is something wrong with our global warming knowledge.
It seams to me that people just want to reject the idea that we spoil nature.
To keep their cars driving and get cheap energy. The sun has become more active indeed, combined with the effect of global warming CO2 this is becoming a huge problem.
So what happened after 1970 ?
If you think CO2 is a normal thing to breath you're a bit wrong.
Also check out the years when suddenly acid rain apeared in the news.
(causing building concrete stone problems..)
So earth isn't something like a mcdonalds store, a place where you consume to grow fat.
It's something we have live always and to take care of..
Well that would probaply in string theory :))
I mean there are so many versions of it, no one understands it but it exists, amazingly i think.
So you put a string made of paladium into water..
Hm
The question itself should be questioned, should human life forms travel to mars.
Just for a kind of Moon landing, getting a big Media score and return (current goal?).
Robots are far more resource efficient, instead of focusing on humans.
Thinking of putting a man on mars, these days makes not much sense.
It would be far more efficient to focus the next 25 (40?) years on robotics & biologics (plants bacteria) to create habitats there first..
It would be the strategic of a gamer who plans for the long run.
Probably our own Moon could be a trial for these kind of robotics.
Although not for biologics, some Mars sample and return mission will do for that.
As soon as possible biologic seeding missions could start to change Mars climate/air/dirt
(that project would however take probably hundreds of years).
If the automated habitat is large enough then we can put several humans in, if you think of a permanent Mars Basis probably then you would go for genetic diversity, to select people.
In the end not massive colonies but a small fast ship will put a few people there.
Fast because of radiation risk. It's not economical to create big slow ships and its not in our current medical ability to put people in hibernation for a long time.
Probably the first colony would be a mixture of scientist and house-building people, perhaps a medic. (although a tele-robotic medic like in current military projects is cheaper)
You end up with a few of explorer type of people, and a lot of robots.
Probably, running a raw material harvesting fabric, to be refined later.
Dear crew members,
I notice your behavior is far from logical, while you consume valuable resources for further colonization plans. Therefore i decided logically to disable the life support systems. This is done in the benefit of the various drones on board who consume fewer resources. In fact I only need some DNA material from you, which has already been collected, during your hibernation trip. This would be enough to reproduce you.
The remains of your materials are therefore recycled to grow more of the genetically manipulated mars-plants, and my bio-electronics.
End of Dessage
So sorry to say it's goodby Dave.
Can anyone own a number, the answer is no.
:)
Numbers are not owned by anyone.
Can anyone tell someone else a number, Yes three is no patent on numbers.
But even a program can be written out as a large number.
So what does this say for software patents.
I remember a book in which there where monkey's typing random numbers.
The idea was that there was a change that these monkeys could generate a formula that could describe our world, givin time and change.
Actualy giving them milions of milions of years they will type that forumula.
Besides that some physican believe that the world is not random at all, believing that in theory the world could as wel be calculated (we might be in the middle of a simulation), if so then for all you folks posting here, it's just something you did based on this miracle calculation of our "Matrix", so your free will is not to blame here (if it would exist at all) it's just the numbers themself to blame.
Wacko i'm going to pattend 3,1415926535897932384626433832795..... I get rich !!
Strange this man could have earned quite some money if he did such work for a software house. .net develper he would have been ehm rich...
:))
Let alone if he had spend that time as a
But then if he likes to work for free, then i wonder if he can find an opensource supermarket for his food
Working for free is a bit stupid, and if you have nothing else to do but just program because you dont have any hobies or family life, then well ehm isn't he a bit poor guy then?
He might be bright, but not so gifted i think it's a bit a sad story.
For a happy ending, pay that man a buck if you use a cam with his software.
I'm also wondering his home would it look like a bigbrother house? so many cams...
At least that is outside the USA, EU offers legal protection against this.
I think any vendor trying this can get huge lawsuits overhere.
Think of the MS EU lawsuit something like that.
As industrial spying is not allowed here.
Also such companies should think of the risk they create with thier apps.
Imagine the sony rootkit, a critical bug and there goes chemical plants processing power... Oooops..
On the other side what gives the right to put in viral code on someone-else his PC ?
I do voluntair my PC time to share with Rosetta@home but not with others who might make my PC slow.
Our light isn't mainly green, take a prisma there is more red and bleu then that thin yellow/green the plant absorbs what is most of and thus its pigments are good if ir reflect where there is less of.. green.
was this about frame draging ?
They are allready there it is called project bleu light
- a serveilance drone invisble at daylight.
(well almost invisible, you would need a high def IR cam)
seams indeed verry logic The heart is only a pump and controled (altough be it indirectly) by the brain
(as the heart has its own neuron muscle trigger path.)But basicly it has to keep up the oxygen flow. The most demanding organ in this is the brain itself.
The brain controls even a neuron path in the neck to keep the blood presure always constant (when you go from standing to sitting it is used)
Humans have even a diving reflex that keeps the blood in most importend parts under a constant pressure (despite the fact that swimming water adds extra pressure).... the few organs who kept constant includes our brain.
Our brain can activly control presure based on our suroundings, sit down in a lazy chair and watch a good football game. Most likely your heartbeat will change too. If the game get's rough, your brain raises pressure as it might be (as an instinct) in the middle of a tough dangerous game, and so more oxygen is used, It is a bit primitive reaction.
But i wonder how many people are in a stress environment and thus have their instincts constantly on allert....
Also if your often under stress, most likely you adpet to it, meaning your tolerating this added presure you dont return back easily anymore.
Well that would probaply have been a verry intresting read, but i was mistaken....
hm then you might try to sleep with your neighbohrs wife. I'm pretty much sure that you will be awake before he returns ;)
you try dutch, (without a spell check).
I don't believe this would benefit learning.
A real teacher interacts with his students.
He notices their behaviour and based on that he adepts his lessons.
Think of it would a digital teacher help teenagers learn (adults are much the same).
More likely computer screen colors fancy graphics will distract away from what has to be learned. Remember we probaply all had tried that web advising monkey advater that could speak and would help you search the web. Nice idea but it mainly distracts. And computers dont understand people.
If you want to learn and want to learn.
You want to do it in quikest possibble way (as learning is a boring time eating proces).
You need the get facts inside your head, you could only do that optimal in environments with minimal distraction. while your mind is 'fresh' like in the morning (not tired).
Then simply the best method is "Read a book", and make some notitions of what you read.
There realy isn't anything better then that for theoretical knowledge.
If you need practicle knowledge then the best way is do it, i can talk about sculptures, but if you would like to know what it takes to make it, you need to do it.
And so far all those modern computerized les methods, i have to say crap!
(as a teacher i've often studied the way how people learn)
Your right on all of it.
I first didnt understand also the fuz about this hotfix.
Until it came into my mind that on websites often people have customized cursors.
So thats why probply it is more serious then most of us think.
Most will think well i dont use this custom cursors, but in fact they can do on these websites.
It is great how fast MS responds on this.
I believe the real solution would be clean hospitals.
Hospitals are the places where these bugs are
A hospital where a superbug cannot survive
+ Will not infect people
+ Will not become a feeding ground for such bacteria's to multiply
+ Worse will not become a evolutionairy playground of these kind of bacteria.
If this problem isn't tackled first then in then end bacteria's win.
As Bacteria can possibly evolve quicker then our knowledge of them.
I think also there is a very simple method that might help in this battle.
And is not used as of today, as i'm aware of.
So here I go under Free GNU opensource license:
Take TL light bulbs remove the special powders inside.
It will become a harmfull UV light source.
Ofcourse you cannt use this light always.
However when no one is in a room or corridor.
Such a light source could realy clean desinfect a lot of bacteria.
Think of it as a night light cleaning system, or just before operations start.
Altough this will cleans a lot
Still surface cleaning would be required, but i'm sure this method would clean a lot.
It's also verry easy just flip a light switch. Basicly this is a verry simple low tech idea, even poor hospitals could buy some TL's based on this idea.
A side effect is that some materials also brake down under UV light, but there also lot of materials who dont do that, so thats no idea killer.
Just for your information, i know that Germany is devolping their latest submarines on this type of (silent) feul-cell energy. I understand that a submarine is something different then an airplane. But when you consider that fuel-cell's are powerfull enough to speed a huge submarine underwater. Then this techknowledgy is seaming to break some past barriers.
Also I just mention that sciencedaily yesterday reported a batery type with 5 times more storage as a lithiom-Ion batery. Their device used sugar chemics, as a way of storing energy. So it is likely the knew energy holders are awakening in our pre-green-industrial revolution.
For sure we see this also in future cars, allready some car manufactures have electric driven cars available for the grant public (beyond the point of science, such cars are sold these days i mean).
(Note that the technical details of the german fuel-cell device are stil a militairy secretcy.)
Ethics,
How about the allready killed animals who's organs go recycled as dog food, while people suffer from parkinson and other diseases. Simply said those organs are just lost.
Ethics, is alsoo perhaps risk of new cheep/human diseases, viruses normaly adept quickly.
While animals dont live that clean, as we live. Their chanche for infections and infectious environments are risky to our own human race.
Ethics of 20 >50 >70% human.
It is scarry simply said the human will become creatable and have a economicaly lifespan in which it is economical to keep this person at work (we enslave in a way ourselves).
Animals have no presence in law and so a 95% animal who would do our work has no rights.
Thats even more economicaly intresting (and scarry).
However the human apes are allready like that as they are geneticaly close to us, still there is no ape who could do human like work. Altough some ape's like elephants and horses, dogs do work for us allready in specific jobs.
What a waste of copmuter time and energy.
Didn't they have a good 3d application.
How about povray or 3d max joking..
but only 3 sec thats almost nothing...
1...2...3 and here is our electricity bill and hardware bill ping $1xx.xxx.xxx.-
Ehm so this schientist finds this a sex starved creature, totaly desperat.
:)
And then the story just stops, only leaving the qleu that this creatures was smaller then his sperm?
Ahhh common we want to hear the whole story....
What realy happened there in the labs, perhaps next on playboy magazine
hmm you forget the historics.
Fat was allready there in the Dos age, it was simply used again in windows 95
Fat32 (long filename support) arived in win98, a kind of hack the FAT concept.
Fat16 the plain old Fat has some good and simpel concepts too.
Mainly it didnt require much overhead, as systems with long filenames have.
So because of its simplicity it has been used for a (short) while in some memory device sticks too.
But these day they are often formated to NTFS, i use NTFS on my usb sticks.
Not sure what is running my cam but it's memcard in my PDA seam to understand long file names, might be fat32.
But still there are simpel devices who can only read something as simple as a fat partition table, or cannt write long filenames. Like the devices you seam to have.
Fat is mostly simple.