Just hope you don't get sequestered for several weeks. Jury duty pays a princely twelve dollars a day. Your employer can't fire you for being on jury duty, but they don't even have to pay you (most will only pay a couple days).
Duplicate, spelling errors, and nothing but the short submission. Google is relaunching its blogger service -- tell me again what slashdot provides over it?
> Windows isn't really slow, but has some annoying features that have been added recently that can slow you down
Forget recent, some of them are just a result of truly dumb ass design. For example, ever wonder why in explorer, right-click "file->new" is so slow to pop up the menu the first time, to the point of freezing for a minute or so? Because instead of there being a simple "templates" directory (like there is for office files) for all file types, it literally scans through every single registry key in \HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT looking for a FileNew subkey. At least it caches it somewhere so it's not so expensive the second time... til you reboot or restart explorer anyway. It's just inexcusable. And windows is just chock full of brute force approaches like that.
> Why were you running the Cygwin port of Perl rather than a native Windows version like the ActiveState distribution?
Because it was using POE, and POE appears to be broken in several ways on Win32. I used the simple Wheel::ReadWrite to implement a 'cat' command, reading \*STDIN to \*STDOUT, and it simply hung when I tested it on Windows. Same code worked fine without alteration on cygwin. I have better things to do than to debug other people's libraries. Anyway, I'm switching from POE to Stackless Python, which I am running natively on Win32 now, so it's no longer an issue. 'course I'm switching my whole development platform away from Win32 as soon as I can swing it, so I'll certainly have less problems after that...
> So what? It's essentially a $20,000 fee to guarantee getting past the antispam filters of 170 million people.
Once. Once you spam, you lose it by degrees -- each complaint takes a chunk out of your bond -- and then you have to pay it again. This makes it more than a little expensive to use for spam.
Mainsleazers who keep bending the definition of spam might like to use an Ironport bond, but another effect of bondedsender is that you bond a well-known range of IP addresses, so there's a very well known target to block yourself if they do abuse it.
> And not to nitpick even further, but if there is one thing Outlook is, it is responsive.
Clearly you haven't experienced the joy of searching messages. Especially if there's 5000+ messages in the folder. Thunderbird manages to do it as I type, and I can still do other mail operations. Outlook 2003 still single-threads it and prevents me from even composing mail while it's busy doing it.
Opera indeed makes both of them look slow, but dear lord the bugs are heinous. I stick with Outlook where I have to use it: Outlook 2003 is great for organization, since I have several folders sorted and grouped (not so subtle RFE hint) differently.
I wonder, why not have a mail application use SQLite for the folder store? Or an arbitrary ODBC or JDBC URL? You get all that organization for free in such a case (including GROUP BY), to say nothing of more or less guaranteed data integrity...
> a build for Cygwin is still a build for Windows.
It absolutely is not. It requires the (questionably licensed) cygwin DLL, so it essentially runs under the cygwin runtime, causing it to be brittle and slow slow slow. Apps running under cygwin have a hard heap limit (I have been screwed running perl over large datasets this way) as well as DLL relocation problems.
KDE should compile okay for MinGW, which can be said to truly be a Windows port, but its main problem is the availability of a free Qt: X11 only. Personally I can't understand why there isn't also a native port of the X11 client libs to windows either -- the server has been implemented dozens of times over after all.
> Otherwise we'll just have to say that all those old applications written in Visual Basic aren't Windows builds, they are VBRUN300.dll builds.
I don't think in most circles you'll get away with calling a (non-native) VB application a "native" windows application either. At least the VB runtime is maintained by more than one guy.
> Actually, that is not a bad point. It is a question if you want brand consciousness and a lot of jokes (you don't change the name to Thunderfox) or you want a similar naming scheme and a lot of jokes (you change the name).
It is a similar naming scheme. Firefox, Thunderbird... what the hell is a "Thunderfox"? It just happens to name a different commonly heard of imaginary animal (tho actually a Firefox is a red panda).
I can only hope the ridiculous "Sunbird" name for the calendar product never takes off (and they get a better icon that's actually visible). It's not an official mozilla product anyway, so I'm not worried yet. Maybe "Sundog", but there's got to be another creature that'd fit the scheme.
Richter: "Well, that's simple. That's the easiest question there is. Because the US Postal service is saying 'Hey, we need help. We're getting killed here. This guy can send email. He's not wiping out the rain forest. So what are we gonna do with all these little white trucks? We either gotta get this guy to pay 37 cents and buy some stamps... or we're done.'"
Funny, I always thought it was Big Lumber, not the post office.
-- (Not) Member #236616 of The Lumber Cartel (There Is No Lumber Cartel)
> Do *you* spend more than 1/5000 of your life (roughly 20 seconds per day) dealing with spam? I do. So, based on that (admittedly very rough) metric, who is worse?
> The catch with XAML is that if business buys into it in a big way
Thus leaving everyone still running Windows 98 in the cold, unless you think MS is going to reach back and support it. Not happening. Most businesses are still writing web apps with HTML 3.2 and little bits of javascript.
This same Chicken Little alarmist crap happened with embedded ActiveX controls, which have gone precisely nowhere on the web. For another salient fairy tale, see also The Boy Who Cried Wolf.
> Or, to put it another way, this is Microsofts latest and most addictive crack. It has the potential to get a whole new generation of computers hopelessly, horribly, unescapably addicted to Microsoft products. It is worth being afraid of it.
So get off your ass. develop your own damn "crack", and stop blaming everyone else.
How many of you went to the slashdot login page and tried to login as CmdrTaco using the password "hershey"?
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Does anyone else ever notice how arrogant the KDE announcements are? They make statements like this: "The KDE Project today announced the immediate availability of KDE 3.2.2, a maintenance release for the latest generation of the most advanced and powerful free desktop for GNU/Linux and other UNIXes."
You're right. They should instead follow the usual OSS Software release announcement.
"I just released EDK 0.00001 pre-alpha-test-4. It crashes when starting up, but it's otherwise got most of the features I was looking for. Go ahead and give it a try, but if it doesn't work, go back to using something else."
> Remember, investors said the same thing to Jobs when he tried to get backing to produce the Apple.
They were beating down Apple's door after the runaway success of the Apple I in the hobby market, and their IPO was one of the most successful in all history. Try again.
Slashdot insults Einstein's memory by regularly posting junk science articles with his image attached. But of course, they don't actually write the articles.. or submit them.. or proofread them.. or fact check them..
> I don't like that. Anything that says "It's OK to send SPAM, so long as..." sounds bad to me.
It does not say that. Read the CAN-SPAM act. It basically says that if you include naughty pics IN the email AND there isn't an established client relationship (interpretation of this is why we have courts), then you MUST include the tag. If you sign up and don't uncheck a box, then such mail might come to you.
In a remarkable change of attitude, congress didn't want to get into either outright banning anything by content OR draft a 1000 page bill stipulating every possible best practice for email list management. What it did was go after some of the most blatant spam, and very specifically leave stricter enforcement up to ISP's who are still free to decide what enters and leaves their network. CAN-SPAM sure as hell isn't perfect, but it wasn't designed to be. It's a stick to whack the worst spammers with, and it still allows "my network, my rules" to prevail, so no spammer can truly claim CAN-SPAM as a shelter against being TOS'd.
Precisely. Which a projection of 3D onto a 2D screen is not. It's amusing when I play a FPS, I find myself craning my neck trying to look around corners. It's simply annoying in a GUI where I'm trying to get work done.
> How far are we from being able to just wave our arms around as part of our ui?
Already there. Get yourself a 3d wireless mouse, strap it to your hand (some already come with a strap).
Personally I don't want to smack my cube wall or co-worker while working. Give me a "desktop" that's physically the size of my desktop, on an easel, and then I'll consider touch screens useful.
Google for "gorilla arm syndrome" for the reason touchscreens never took off for typical use.
ok so i don't know my CFC's from my FC's... still, looking at it and its boiling point makes me think "flourinert", and why crays have gas masks inside them...
Yay, it's a CFC. The properties of CFC's have been known for a long time -- just about everyone has seen the demonstration of a computer dunked in the stuff. Nothing new to see. No way will the EPA let people use this as a fire extinguisher. Well, maybe if dubya gets elected this year...
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> Honestly, I would enjoy being on a jury.
Just hope you don't get sequestered for several weeks. Jury duty pays a princely twelve dollars a day. Your employer can't fire you for being on jury duty, but they don't even have to pay you (most will only pay a couple days).
Hope you don't have bills to pay.
> Now that Iron-(plays boths sides of the fence)-Port owns Spamcop
Still waiting for proof on that score other than the fact that they sell a dedicated MTA appliance that's actually good at it.
Duplicate, spelling errors, and nothing but the short submission. Google is relaunching its blogger service -- tell me again what slashdot provides over it?
> Windows isn't really slow, but has some annoying features that have been added recently that can slow you down
... til you reboot or restart explorer anyway. It's just inexcusable. And windows is just chock full of brute force approaches like that.
Forget recent, some of them are just a result of truly dumb ass design. For example, ever wonder why in explorer, right-click "file->new" is so slow to pop up the menu the first time, to the point of freezing for a minute or so? Because instead of there being a simple "templates" directory (like there is for office files) for all file types, it literally scans through every single registry key in \HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT looking for a FileNew subkey. At least it caches it somewhere so it's not so expensive the second time
> Actually, they play both sides of the fence.
I know, just look at that feature list. Header forgery. Message obfuscation. Relay and proxy discovery and use. Listwashing.
Oh wait. Those aren't there. It's just really fast. String 'em up anyway, no one's got business sending that much email!
> Why were you running the Cygwin port of Perl rather than a native Windows version like the ActiveState distribution?
Because it was using POE, and POE appears to be broken in several ways on Win32. I used the simple Wheel::ReadWrite to implement a 'cat' command, reading \*STDIN to \*STDOUT, and it simply hung when I tested it on Windows. Same code worked fine without alteration on cygwin. I have better things to do than to debug other people's libraries. Anyway, I'm switching from POE to Stackless Python, which I am running natively on Win32 now, so it's no longer an issue. 'course I'm switching my whole development platform away from Win32 as soon as I can swing it, so I'll certainly have less problems after that...
> So what? It's essentially a $20,000 fee to guarantee getting past the antispam filters of 170 million people.
Once. Once you spam, you lose it by degrees -- each complaint takes a chunk out of your bond -- and then you have to pay it again. This makes it more than a little expensive to use for spam.
Mainsleazers who keep bending the definition of spam might like to use an Ironport bond, but another effect of bondedsender is that you bond a well-known range of IP addresses, so there's a very well known target to block yourself if they do abuse it.
> The various sustained DOS attacks on SCO gave SCO an Alexa Rating in the low thousands.
SCO is not a media company. Hell they don't even sell anything any more. So tell me why their Alexa rating matters?
In fact, it looks terrible for marketing (and the marketing consultants that VC'ers hire) when your visits to sales conversion ratio is so bad...
> And not to nitpick even further, but if there is one thing Outlook is, it is responsive.
Clearly you haven't experienced the joy of searching messages. Especially if there's 5000+ messages in the folder. Thunderbird manages to do it as I type, and I can still do other mail operations. Outlook 2003 still single-threads it and prevents me from even composing mail while it's busy doing it.
Opera indeed makes both of them look slow, but dear lord the bugs are heinous. I stick with Outlook where I have to use it: Outlook 2003 is great for organization, since I have several folders sorted and grouped (not so subtle RFE hint) differently.
I wonder, why not have a mail application use SQLite for the folder store? Or an arbitrary ODBC or JDBC URL? You get all that organization for free in such a case (including GROUP BY), to say nothing of more or less guaranteed data integrity...
> a build for Cygwin is still a build for Windows.
It absolutely is not. It requires the (questionably licensed) cygwin DLL, so it essentially runs under the cygwin runtime, causing it to be brittle and slow slow slow. Apps running under cygwin have a hard heap limit (I have been screwed running perl over large datasets this way) as well as DLL relocation problems.
KDE should compile okay for MinGW, which can be said to truly be a Windows port, but its main problem is the availability of a free Qt: X11 only. Personally I can't understand why there isn't also a native port of the X11 client libs to windows either -- the server has been implemented dozens of times over after all.
> Otherwise we'll just have to say that all those old applications written in Visual Basic aren't Windows builds, they are VBRUN300.dll builds.
I don't think in most circles you'll get away with calling a (non-native) VB application a "native" windows application either. At least the VB runtime is maintained by more than one guy.
> Actually, that is not a bad point. It is a question if you want brand consciousness and a lot of jokes (you don't change the name to Thunderfox) or you want a similar naming scheme and a lot of jokes (you change the name).
... what the hell is a "Thunderfox"? It just happens to name a different commonly heard of imaginary animal (tho actually a Firefox is a red panda).
It is a similar naming scheme. Firefox, Thunderbird
I can only hope the ridiculous "Sunbird" name for the calendar product never takes off (and they get a better icon that's actually visible). It's not an official mozilla product anyway, so I'm not worried yet. Maybe "Sundog", but there's got to be another creature that'd fit the scheme.
Richter: "Well, that's simple. That's the easiest question there is. Because the US Postal service is saying 'Hey, we need help. We're getting killed here. This guy can send email. He's not wiping out the rain forest. So what are we gonna do with all these little white trucks? We either gotta get this guy to pay 37 cents and buy some stamps... or we're done.'"
Funny, I always thought it was Big Lumber, not the post office.
--
(Not) Member #236616 of The Lumber Cartel (There Is No Lumber Cartel)
> Do *you* spend more than 1/5000 of your life (roughly 20 seconds per day) dealing with spam? I do. So, based on that (admittedly very rough) metric, who is worse?
Slashdot. Or do you just type really really fast?
> The catch with XAML is that if business buys into it in a big way
Thus leaving everyone still running Windows 98 in the cold, unless you think MS is going to reach back and support it. Not happening. Most businesses are still writing web apps with HTML 3.2 and little bits of javascript.
This same Chicken Little alarmist crap happened with embedded ActiveX controls, which have gone precisely nowhere on the web. For another salient fairy tale, see also The Boy Who Cried Wolf.
> Or, to put it another way, this is Microsofts latest and most addictive crack. It has the potential to get a whole new generation of computers hopelessly, horribly, unescapably addicted to Microsoft products. It is worth being afraid of it.
So get off your ass. develop your own damn "crack", and stop blaming everyone else.
How many of you went to the slashdot login page and tried to login as CmdrTaco using the password "hershey"?
Does anyone else ever notice how arrogant the KDE announcements are? They make statements like this: "The KDE Project today announced the immediate availability of KDE 3.2.2, a maintenance release for the latest generation of the most advanced and powerful free desktop for GNU/Linux and other UNIXes."
You're right. They should instead follow the usual OSS Software release announcement.
"I just released EDK 0.00001 pre-alpha-test-4. It crashes when starting up, but it's otherwise got most of the features I was looking for. Go ahead and give it a try, but if it doesn't work, go back to using something else."
But I have been trolled, alas.
> There is already a programming language called E for Amiga:
E is also the name of a language for the Java VM:
http://www.erights.org
> Remember, investors said the same thing to Jobs when he tried to get backing to produce the Apple.
They were beating down Apple's door after the runaway success of the Apple I in the hobby market, and their IPO was one of the most successful in all history. Try again.
Slashdot insults Einstein's memory by regularly posting junk science articles with his image attached. But of course, they don't actually write the articles .. or submit them .. or proofread them .. or fact check them ..
What do they draw a paycheck for again?
And now you can go back to tape. Real tape.
> I don't like that. Anything that says "It's OK to send SPAM, so long as..." sounds bad to me.
It does not say that. Read the CAN-SPAM act. It basically says that if you include naughty pics IN the email AND there isn't an established client relationship (interpretation of this is why we have courts), then you MUST include the tag. If you sign up and don't uncheck a box, then such mail might come to you.
In a remarkable change of attitude, congress didn't want to get into either outright banning anything by content OR draft a 1000 page bill stipulating every possible best practice for email list management. What it did was go after some of the most blatant spam, and very specifically leave stricter enforcement up to ISP's who are still free to decide what enters and leaves their network. CAN-SPAM sure as hell isn't perfect, but it wasn't designed to be. It's a stick to whack the worst spammers with, and it still allows "my network, my rules" to prevail, so no spammer can truly claim CAN-SPAM as a shelter against being TOS'd.
> We live in a 3D world
Precisely. Which a projection of 3D onto a 2D screen is not. It's amusing when I play a FPS, I find myself craning my neck trying to look around corners. It's simply annoying in a GUI where I'm trying to get work done.
> How far are we from being able to just wave our arms around as part of our ui?
Already there. Get yourself a 3d wireless mouse, strap it to your hand (some already come with a strap).
Personally I don't want to smack my cube wall or co-worker while working. Give me a "desktop" that's physically the size of my desktop, on an easel, and then I'll consider touch screens useful.
Google for "gorilla arm syndrome" for the reason touchscreens never took off for typical use.
ok so i don't know my CFC's from my FC's ... still, looking at it and its boiling point makes me think "flourinert", and why crays have gas masks inside them...
> Chemical Formula CF3CF2C(O)CF(CF3)2
Yay, it's a CFC. The properties of CFC's have been known for a long time -- just about everyone has seen the demonstration of a computer dunked in the stuff. Nothing new to see. No way will the EPA let people use this as a fire extinguisher. Well, maybe if dubya gets elected this year...