Oh for gods sake - I don't need scientific research to tell you why women are more attractive while they are ovulating. Most of us feel like crap before, during and after our period and, as a result, we don't want anyone to bother us so we spend less time on our appearance. However, when your near ovulation you are typically more interested in sex because, well, you don't feel like crap. So more time and effort go into hair and makeup as a result. Case closed:)
"I mean, look, after all the WWII and Iraq Desert conflict style games that are out, let's face it, this SCRPG is not much different."
Right? No one seems to have a problem with institutionalized violence. I think it's because we have adopted the mind set that "bad guys deserve to die!" Which would include would-be terrorists as well as the gangsters and prostitutes in GTA. If we marginalize people we don't feel any regret in killing them. Columbine crosses our imaginary line because they put a face and name on it - children.
Regular companies have multiple revenue streams, why should Pr0n be any different? I can't imagine kiddi porn is all that lucrative anyway seeing as you can't exactly advertise - so they may have had a legal offering as a supplement or even as a cover, further they may sell legal items to secure valid credit card vendor service.
All jokes aside, the concern here is that people get emotional about the issues and they don't always look at the facts of the case. It's called reasonable doubt. But if the evidence proves that's what these people bought - then they should all go straight to jail because they are seriously messed up human beings. all I'm saying is it *could* happen.
Well to be fair - A SINGLE company may have has MULTIPLE Pr0n offerings: kiddy, tranny, granny, etc. Whose to say which one their clients purchased? That would totally suck if you were trying to get your kink on with tranny-love and got busted for kiddi-porn. O the hu-man-on manity.
I reckon it's like the cottage industry that grew up around I-pods, you're not going to invent the Ipod (or Ebay) so why not just make be-jeweled holders or kickass speakers and skim some revenue off the top?
Ebays in a win-win sitch as they get site & product expansion without really having to pay for it. I wonder if they own part of the IP at the end of the day.
I've noticed a similar Open API peripheral strategy with other sites - like FLICKR and even Myspace to a lessor extent. Flickr has a few apps that are really fun like the calender or DVD maker - but they are obviously done by 3rd party devs and Flicker even solicits devs for new ideas.
That's a very good point:) I've been pwnd by you AND WOW SouthPark:
Warcraft Exec #1:
Fellow board members, we have a problem. Somebody in the World of Warcraft is ignoring the world's rules and is going around killing innocent players!
Warcraft Exec #2:
But...why kill innocent players? The game is about finishing quests!!!
I was talking to a friend on the Sims team about how I played SIMS2, and she said casually - "Oh, you're a builder then" I was intrigued so I asked "what "other" types of players are there?" She said, "Oh, all kinds, but we were really surprised to see how many deviant players there are - you know, the ones that try and find different ways to kill their character." I was a little taken back - in fact, when one of my pregnant Sims died unexpectedly I decided not to save my game, like it never happened.
Of course, if your playing the Sims and killing your characters perhaps your playing the wrong game - might I suggest GTA, Dead Rising or Manhunt?
"We get caught laundering money, we're not going to white collar resort prison. No, no, no. We're going to Federal "Pound me in the A$$" prison!"
Yep. That guy is going to the latter...
I think it's a kool idea and plan to give it a spin. Good or bad, I think it's a creative idea, certainly like nothing we've seen before from a video game...
I've said it before and I'll say it again - games aren't JUST for kids, I think us grups can handle a few bullies, or at least have fun tryin.
If you don't like it go play "Hello Kitty Island Adventure" and shaddup.
My co-workers and I use MySpace to blow off steam and chat while at work (of course we work in technology, go figure). I think people like us get together in small groups, we are not interested in having 5,000 anonymous friends - it's more like we are hanging out at the water cooler, but with the guise of sitting at your computer and getting some work done.
I havn't gone through the process in a while, but I am pretty sure the ESRB does not play the games.
It is up to the developer to send the "most offensive" game footage for viewing (Via VCR or DVD) - so if that footage was omitted or gameplay added at the last minute they would not have seen it. If you consider how long it can take to play a game I doubt they have the resources to play through all the games that are submitted each year.
Maybe they needed a nude skin for character customization - just like in life - sometimes game characters are naked under their clothes.
Anyway, this is waaaaay less offensive than Hot Coffee - I don't even see a comparison. Hot Coffee was straight up sex - which means at least one programmer and one animator was involved. Whereas changing skins in a game - anyone with photoshop and game dev. experience can do that.
Excuse me, I gotta play my modded version of the Sims - they are all naked!!!
I think he was steering clear of some of the weirdness that can be found in second life (kinky sex for example) and focusing on education - perhaps he should merge the two and discuss second lifes role in (virtual) sex education!!
I agree - why aren't we having a censorhsip discussion here? E3 is for grownups afterall - the average gamer is 27 for chrissakes! People should have the right to display their titles with Booth Babes or Babies - depending on the subject matter of the game. You can't very well advertise Victoria Secrets Bra's with big hairy men, now can you - so having a few Lara Croft Lookalikes is no big whoop. If companies doing FPShooters think they need booth babes to sell their war games, well then that's just pathetic - but it's their choice to make - not E3's.
Likewise AO titles should be allowed on the show floor - as long as they inforce the "over 18" policy -who the hell cares? This is just a knee jerk reaction to current legislation.
This should be titled "e3 travels back in time" - to 1955.
Say...what's the sex like on Second Life - I hear it's a big draw. But then I also heard there's lots of furries and weirdness too. I'm too lazy to actually see for myself so I am willing to rely completely on heresay - so make it good. details...I want details...
If "Sean Baby" spent as much time researching and playing games as he did trying to be funny he might actually have something interesting to say. He hates everything - that's his MO
One thing that comes to mind is his coverage of "That's so Raven GBA" WHY is he even reviewing children's game? Does he fancy himself an 8 year old girl? Does he like 8 year girls??? ***shudder*** That is the equivalent of an 8 year old girl commenting on HALO or DOOM -
Shouldn't he just be reviewing the kind of games he would play??
At any rate - just go to www.seanbaby.com and you'll see his site is covered in PORNO ads - this guy is just about ratings - can we all just IGNORE him now? He's not funny and has nothing original say.
...I just broke out the Sims2 Disk (a gift) last weekend since my T.V. was on the blink - a PC game was my only choice.
I played for about 3 hours and realized that my Sims hadn't even been able to leave the house - such was their urgent bathroom, hunger and sleeping needs. WTF - I can forgo all of this stuff for a night out on the town - I found it annoying that my sims bitterly complained and couldn't "suck it up!"
The Sims should have been called "Mundania"
There is a certain sense of irony of being surrounded by squalor while playing this game - I kept thinking maybe I should stop and take out the garbage. The more Sim kids I had the more sucky the game became. So I hired a maid and a nanny for my Sims - both useless - I still had to take out the f***king garbage.
Perhaps it's a cautionary tale - this could be YOUR life - ugh - thank god it was only a game.
There was no mention of how marketing games to a mass market fails. There are plenty of games that might reach a broader market if they didn't seem so "hard core."
I did think the article made some good points about the insular state of the inudstry. For example, look a the movie industry - it's not all sci-fi and horror genres - there's a bit more diversity there.
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Oh for gods sake - I don't need scientific research to tell you why women are more attractive while they are ovulating. Most of us feel like crap before, during and after our period and, as a result, we don't want anyone to bother us so we spend less time on our appearance. However, when your near ovulation you are typically more interested in sex because, well, you don't feel like crap. So more time and effort go into hair and makeup as a result. Case closed :)
I've never seen a man keep change in his pocket for more than a day - they get rid of it as soon as possible.
"I mean, look, after all the WWII and Iraq Desert conflict style games that are out, let's face it, this SCRPG is not much different."
Right? No one seems to have a problem with institutionalized violence. I think it's because we have adopted the mind set that "bad guys deserve to die!" Which would include would-be terrorists as well as the gangsters and prostitutes in GTA. If we marginalize people we don't feel any regret in killing them. Columbine crosses our imaginary line because they put a face and name on it - children.
Regular companies have multiple revenue streams, why should Pr0n be any different? I can't imagine kiddi porn is all that lucrative anyway seeing as you can't exactly advertise - so they may have had a legal offering as a supplement or even as a cover, further they may sell legal items to secure valid credit card vendor service.
All jokes aside, the concern here is that people get emotional about the issues and they don't always look at the facts of the case. It's called reasonable doubt. But if the evidence proves that's what these people bought - then they should all go straight to jail because they are seriously messed up human beings. all I'm saying is it *could* happen.
Well to be fair - A SINGLE company may have has MULTIPLE Pr0n offerings: kiddy, tranny, granny, etc. Whose to say which one their clients purchased? That would totally suck if you were trying to get your kink on with tranny-love and got busted for kiddi-porn. O the hu-man-on manity.
I reckon it's like the cottage industry that grew up around I-pods, you're not going to invent the Ipod (or Ebay) so why not just make be-jeweled holders or kickass speakers and skim some revenue off the top?
Ebays in a win-win sitch as they get site & product expansion without really having to pay for it. I wonder if they own part of the IP at the end of the day.
I've noticed a similar Open API peripheral strategy with other sites - like FLICKR and even Myspace to a lessor extent. Flickr has a few apps that are really fun like the calender or DVD maker - but they are obviously done by 3rd party devs and Flicker even solicits devs for new ideas.
Also - I believe you can bounce signals off the moon (moon bounce) I remeber my grandfather talking about it - he was a ham, now a silent_key.
That's a very good point :) I've been pwnd by you AND WOW SouthPark:
Warcraft Exec #1:
Fellow board members, we have a problem. Somebody in the World of Warcraft is ignoring the world's rules and is going around killing innocent players!
Warcraft Exec #2:
But...why kill innocent players? The game is about finishing quests!!!
I was talking to a friend on the Sims team about how I played SIMS2, and she said casually - "Oh, you're a builder then" I was intrigued so I asked "what "other" types of players are there?" She said, "Oh, all kinds, but we were really surprised to see how many deviant players there are - you know, the ones that try and find different ways to kill their character." I was a little taken back - in fact, when one of my pregnant Sims died unexpectedly I decided not to save my game, like it never happened.
Of course, if your playing the Sims and killing your characters perhaps your playing the wrong game - might I suggest GTA, Dead Rising or Manhunt?
"We get caught laundering money, we're not going to white collar resort prison. No, no, no. We're going to Federal "Pound me in the A$$" prison!" Yep. That guy is going to the latter...
What tha...wait a minute...you have a wife AND a girlfriend ? Dude - no wonder you don't have time to learn Linux.
I think it's a kool idea and plan to give it a spin. Good or bad, I think it's a creative idea, certainly like nothing we've seen before from a video game...
I've said it before and I'll say it again - games aren't JUST for kids, I think us grups can handle a few bullies, or at least have fun tryin.
If you don't like it go play "Hello Kitty Island Adventure" and shaddup.
My co-workers and I use MySpace to blow off steam and chat while at work (of course we work in technology, go figure). I think people like us get together in small groups, we are not interested in having 5,000 anonymous friends - it's more like we are hanging out at the water cooler, but with the guise of sitting at your computer and getting some work done.
I hope it was a shaved chest - or eewwwwww!!!!!
I havn't gone through the process in a while, but I am pretty sure the ESRB does not play the games. It is up to the developer to send the "most offensive" game footage for viewing (Via VCR or DVD) - so if that footage was omitted or gameplay added at the last minute they would not have seen it. If you consider how long it can take to play a game I doubt they have the resources to play through all the games that are submitted each year.
Maybe they needed a nude skin for character customization - just like in life - sometimes game characters are naked under their clothes. Anyway, this is waaaaay less offensive than Hot Coffee - I don't even see a comparison. Hot Coffee was straight up sex - which means at least one programmer and one animator was involved. Whereas changing skins in a game - anyone with photoshop and game dev. experience can do that. Excuse me, I gotta play my modded version of the Sims - they are all naked!!!
I think he was steering clear of some of the weirdness that can be found in second life (kinky sex for example) and focusing on education - perhaps he should merge the two and discuss second lifes role in (virtual) sex education!!
Oh - I thought they designed chicken little after that kid on Jerry McGuire...."The human head weighs 8 punds!"
Disney employees are called "Cast Members" I think thet left off the "e" "caste" :)
I agree - why aren't we having a censorhsip discussion here? E3 is for grownups afterall - the average gamer is 27 for chrissakes! People should have the right to display their titles with Booth Babes or Babies - depending on the subject matter of the game. You can't very well advertise Victoria Secrets Bra's with big hairy men, now can you - so having a few Lara Croft Lookalikes is no big whoop. If companies doing FPShooters think they need booth babes to sell their war games, well then that's just pathetic - but it's their choice to make - not E3's. Likewise AO titles should be allowed on the show floor - as long as they inforce the "over 18" policy -who the hell cares? This is just a knee jerk reaction to current legislation. This should be titled "e3 travels back in time" - to 1955.
Say...what's the sex like on Second Life - I hear it's a big draw. But then I also heard there's lots of furries and weirdness too. I'm too lazy to actually see for myself so I am willing to rely completely on heresay - so make it good. details...I want details...
ummm...not exactly what Gepetto had in mind....but I guess toyz arn't just fer kidz dagnabbit
If "Sean Baby" spent as much time researching and playing games as he did trying to be funny he might actually have something interesting to say. He hates everything - that's his MO One thing that comes to mind is his coverage of "That's so Raven GBA" WHY is he even reviewing children's game? Does he fancy himself an 8 year old girl? Does he like 8 year girls??? ***shudder*** That is the equivalent of an 8 year old girl commenting on HALO or DOOM - Shouldn't he just be reviewing the kind of games he would play?? At any rate - just go to www.seanbaby.com and you'll see his site is covered in PORNO ads - this guy is just about ratings - can we all just IGNORE him now? He's not funny and has nothing original say.
...I just broke out the Sims2 Disk (a gift) last weekend since my T.V. was on the blink - a PC game was my only choice. I played for about 3 hours and realized that my Sims hadn't even been able to leave the house - such was their urgent bathroom, hunger and sleeping needs. WTF - I can forgo all of this stuff for a night out on the town - I found it annoying that my sims bitterly complained and couldn't "suck it up!" The Sims should have been called "Mundania" There is a certain sense of irony of being surrounded by squalor while playing this game - I kept thinking maybe I should stop and take out the garbage. The more Sim kids I had the more sucky the game became. So I hired a maid and a nanny for my Sims - both useless - I still had to take out the f***king garbage. Perhaps it's a cautionary tale - this could be YOUR life - ugh - thank god it was only a game.
There was no mention of how marketing games to a mass market fails. There are plenty of games that might reach a broader market if they didn't seem so "hard core." I did think the article made some good points about the insular state of the inudstry. For example, look a the movie industry - it's not all sci-fi and horror genres - there's a bit more diversity there.