Why do we keep critical networks connected to the rest of the net? Why don't resources like these, and the governments, set up proprietary networks that are inaccessible from the global internet base to prevent these sort of things? I never really understood that.
I'm adamantly against this new society of surveillance, but I also enjoy the freedom that the internet has blessed our generation with. What would be an acceptable meeting point to me, is if governments around the world could help themselves to all the info they can eat, but they and every other corporate entity should have to lay off file sharing and free distribution of knowledge and information online.
It has to go both ways to work, but at least we level things out a bit!
I don't want it to phone-home even once! If I buy their stupid OS, I buy it. If I choose to download it, I choose to download it, and WGA or any phoning-home isn't really going to prevent that from happening. I don't consider software that "checks up" on my purchases to deserve my money. In the end, even that one phone-home is just adding you to a database with associated serial number so they can cataloged all their users, and I don't care for that behavior in the least, anonymous or not.
To carry the previous retail store analogy along with this, its like buying a shirt and having the store call you at home to confirm you didn't give your shirt to anyone else on the way, and if you did they need to know the new owners name and address.
Sorry, THESE new workstation cards are a farce. I've been a 3D developer for decades. I well remember SGI, but because the technology was in its infancy then it was simply the only way to get things done. NOW it's just an excuse to split the market and charge developers more money for something they don't need.
There was a time when you could purchase a 3D card that worked excellently for both work and play. These new "workstation" cards are a farce. They are an ostensible attempt at a solution where there is no problem. I am a professional 3D Artist and I can attest to this due to personal experience over the last 15 years. Don't buy into this crap. They DO perform better for workstations, but only due to the fact that gaming cards are intentionally crippled in this area in order to push this alternative product. Luckily most gaming cards currently on the market work well enough for 3D workstations, so I encourage everyone to ignore this attempt at desultory market generation as much as possible, because it's perfectly possible for you to get great performance out of a gaming card for both purposes.
Do you work for valve or something? Because I've got some pretty valid counterarguments to your rediculous assertions here:
- There is no difference in the cost between valves pricing and a physical retail package. I consider Valve an even larger thief than the usual publishers, specifically because they don't have the overhead of a game that sells in physical stores.
- You say they have Digital Rights and not Restrictions. When was the last time you tried to play Half Life 2 without being logged on to Steam (so they could monitor your usage, your PC specs, and other data for marketing research)?
You're blind or full of shit. I don't know who modded you up, but if I had a gravity gun I know exactly which one of your orifices I'd stick it in....
I'm really curious if this ever works out in the favor of the bad-guy. I see this pop up in the news quite frequently, so I assume someone must actually cave in and give these guys money? Anyone know?
Please tell me you guys aren't buying into this crap. With the US at war, an all time low for military enrollment, and the army desperately trying to recruit people through a fucking video game, this is just propaganda bullshit.
I completely agree. To me, piracy stops when you leave college, or alternatively, when you are in the position to make a profit by using it. It's great for learning all the available options on the market, and educating yourself with each one, but once you're working at a company who is going to use it to support their business, they need to shell out the cash to support the OTHER guys business. It should be a no brainer. I'd estimate the majority of revenue companies make on software sales come from corporations in the first place. So when companies start stealing from companies, they've undermined the stability of the whole system.
I used to prescribe to the voluntary extinction ideals. I have much respect for you and those who still do.
In the end I opted to reproduce because I felt there was some credit to the theory of genetic memory, and because I have no idea what death is like (not religious, just opened minded and curious), I felt that keeping my family line intact wouldn't be such a bad idea. I think it's a combination of hope and cowardice. Either way, I wish you luck, and in many ways it's a pity that those support this movement are the ones to die-out, because they're obviously living from a perspective that would benefit this world and race, as opposed to others who would reproduce without conscience.
I hear you, and I'm not perfect. I'm 30. I don't drive, I ride my mountain bike everywhere when I can, and take mass transit when I can't. I use my PC daily because it's part of my livelihood. I've never thought about the conditions under which it was made, which kind of sucks now that you mention it, but at the same time I learned a long time ago that if you really look into everything in society, you may as well just leave it all behind and just live in the hills somewhere, because all of it is screwed up on some level. You just have to chose your vices as wisely as you can, and make an effort where you can afford to. No offense taken, because I'm comfortable where I'm at in life because I know I at least *try*, and that's a lot more conscience than the entirety of my immediate social circle shows.
... and only because it doesn't cost as much? I hope not, but I could imagine that. It makes me sick how brainwashed some people are in this regard (let alone others).
Because of all the dirt surrounding the diamond industry, I will never buy one, and when/if I propose to my girlfriend she's getting a ring with any gem other than a diamond. (And not because I'm some cheap-ass.)
Of course, any woman that doesn't accept you as life-partner because you didn't spend enough money on her engagement item is superficial, materialistic trash anyway.
Fuck that. Fight that shit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are no legal grounds that prevent them from constructing code to emulate a PC on the DS system, or "port" the Starcraft executables to another system.
But even if I am wrong, fuck them anyway. I love Blizzard, they make wonderful games, but this corporate overruling of people's hobbies/freedoms to create has GOT. TO. STOP. Fight it, even if it is "illegal", the system of laws is just a man-made constriction on reality anyway. Fight it, you can change it.
On a more rational note, Blizzard is just getting a free wider audience and awareness for their products. If they want to be pansies about it, they should suck it up because it will only benefit them in the end anyway.
You may be a Sci-Fi nut but I am pretty certain the Film Noir genre has to appeal to you a great deal too in order to enjoy this (assuming it doesn't already). I felt Blade Runner was a masterful work. It did not bore me because what it lacked in action (if action can be "lacking", since it's not a prerequisit for a good film anyhow), it made up for in atmosphere.
Yeah, and you can't really do the 30% restocking fee or a similar means of deterrance without having a few inncocent customers get shafted in the process. Too many times has circumstance allowed a retailer to screw me over, when it's something (kind of like this) that didn't even pertain to me.
Capitalism isn't that hot when combined with human greed.
I have been in the game industry for 15 years. It's a big mess. Four days to polish a product?
On majority of the projects in my career, from Sony to Activision, and many smaller studios in between, four days of polish time was and continues to be about as likely as the company buying every employee a new house for all their hard work.
This is the norm for us, folks. We usually ship our games out around an alpha stage, every single time. The people who have the money in this industry and who make the overall decisions have the sole goal of making money. Polish, Gameplay, and anything else that would result in a quality product are pushed to the back as long as other elements of the equasion, such as marketting and brand recognition, can be used to hide it.
As well as being a developer I am also a gamer, having grown up with the industry since it's infancy, and I hate the situation the medium is currently in. Right now we're most likely witnessing the turning point for interactive media. As it grows and becomes adopted as the new popular media of choice, it also becomes more and more diluted to appeal to the wider audiences, and what were essentially going to be left with in 10 years is television all over again. Hundereds of games (channels) and nothing is on worth watching.:(
It's ironic to me that you are comfortable using Steam, which opens much of your PC to the Valve network (sharing information about your computer, sends marketting statistics, etc), but don't want secureROM installed on your PC.
In my opinion, Steam is far worse than any regular DRM, because instead of simply installing software that checks and validates your game, you're allowing a company access via network to your game where they can outright regulate whatever you do with it.
I never installed Steam for that reason. It freaks me out. I don't want anyone on my machine other than myself, and I don't feel companies have a right to regulation on that level. Even though this Bioshock thing turns out not to be a true Rootkit, it's a game I was going to buy, but now that I see they install this additional mess, I will be passing it up.
I will be happy if a piracy group supplies with me a DRM free version. But I truly LIKE to give my money to teams that deserve it, and I feel the inclusion of secureROM in this game may be robbing a very deserving team of it's sales.
In the end, if the publisher feels they need to install anything that is not necessary to the game itself, they will not get my money.
You can't dismiss another persons concerns about the world simply by tagging their arguments as "teen angst". That in itself is an imature perspective.
I'm 30, and as I watch my country slip into a sick pit of capitalistic facism, I think speaking out about it is the best way to show concern and encourage others to act as well. I live in america where our whole world is controlled by entities such as these. I have every right to be irate about the level of dishonesty and corruption in the corporate world. They slight us all on a personal level every time they pull something like this. If you really feel that's being overdramatic, then as a member of "the real world" I implore you to not care about my angst. Please.
Now that we've caught these people exploiting the part of wikipedia that NO ONE should exploit simply because it undermines the very principle of this community-based system, who will change these entries back? WILL these entries be changed back?
It seems kind of limp to blow the horn on them but not remove the erroneous edits they made. Even if this information is subjective, if a company edits this info to benefit said company, that doesn't seem fair. As a slave/consumer in this country, it makes me cringe every time a large corporation gets away with this kind of bullshit. When is enough, enough?
Slashdot Mirror
"[quote]he says he'll put you in the Internet 'bus lane.'"
I'd love to put him in a bus lane.
Why do we keep critical networks connected to the rest of the net? Why don't resources like these, and the governments, set up proprietary networks that are inaccessible from the global internet base to prevent these sort of things? I never really understood that.
I'm adamantly against this new society of surveillance, but I also enjoy the freedom that the internet has blessed our generation with. What would be an acceptable meeting point to me, is if governments around the world could help themselves to all the info they can eat, but they and every other corporate entity should have to lay off file sharing and free distribution of knowledge and information online.
It has to go both ways to work, but at least we level things out a bit!
I don't want it to phone-home even once! If I buy their stupid OS, I buy it. If I choose to download it, I choose to download it, and WGA or any phoning-home isn't really going to prevent that from happening. I don't consider software that "checks up" on my purchases to deserve my money. In the end, even that one phone-home is just adding you to a database with associated serial number so they can cataloged all their users, and I don't care for that behavior in the least, anonymous or not.
To carry the previous retail store analogy along with this, its like buying a shirt and having the store call you at home to confirm you didn't give your shirt to anyone else on the way, and if you did they need to know the new owners name and address.
Sorry, THESE new workstation cards are a farce. I've been a 3D developer for decades. I well remember SGI, but because the technology was in its infancy then it was simply the only way to get things done. NOW it's just an excuse to split the market and charge developers more money for something they don't need.
Fact: Stupid articles like this breed terrorism.
I did find this clue on his webpage:
http://mcgrew.info/ArtificialInsanity.htm
There was a time when you could purchase a 3D card that worked excellently for both work and play. These new "workstation" cards are a farce. They are an ostensible attempt at a solution where there is no problem. I am a professional 3D Artist and I can attest to this due to personal experience over the last 15 years. Don't buy into this crap. They DO perform better for workstations, but only due to the fact that gaming cards are intentionally crippled in this area in order to push this alternative product. Luckily most gaming cards currently on the market work well enough for 3D workstations, so I encourage everyone to ignore this attempt at desultory market generation as much as possible, because it's perfectly possible for you to get great performance out of a gaming card for both purposes.
Do you work for valve or something? Because I've got some pretty valid counterarguments to your rediculous assertions here:
- There is no difference in the cost between valves pricing and a physical retail package. I consider Valve an even larger thief than the usual publishers, specifically because they don't have the overhead of a game that sells in physical stores.
- You say they have Digital Rights and not Restrictions. When was the last time you tried to play Half Life 2 without being logged on to Steam (so they could monitor your usage, your PC specs, and other data for marketing research)?
You're blind or full of shit. I don't know who modded you up, but if I had a gravity gun I know exactly which one of your orifices I'd stick it in....
I'm really curious if this ever works out in the favor of the bad-guy. I see this pop up in the news quite frequently, so I assume someone must actually cave in and give these guys money? Anyone know?
Please tell me you guys aren't buying into this crap. With the US at war, an all time low for military enrollment, and the army desperately trying to recruit people through a fucking video game, this is just propaganda bullshit.
Please someone recognize it for what it is.
I completely agree. To me, piracy stops when you leave college, or alternatively, when you are in the position to make a profit by using it. It's great for learning all the available options on the market, and educating yourself with each one, but once you're working at a company who is going to use it to support their business, they need to shell out the cash to support the OTHER guys business. It should be a no brainer. I'd estimate the majority of revenue companies make on software sales come from corporations in the first place. So when companies start stealing from companies, they've undermined the stability of the whole system.
Starting to see things...
I used to prescribe to the voluntary extinction ideals. I have much respect for you and those who still do. In the end I opted to reproduce because I felt there was some credit to the theory of genetic memory, and because I have no idea what death is like (not religious, just opened minded and curious), I felt that keeping my family line intact wouldn't be such a bad idea. I think it's a combination of hope and cowardice. Either way, I wish you luck, and in many ways it's a pity that those support this movement are the ones to die-out, because they're obviously living from a perspective that would benefit this world and race, as opposed to others who would reproduce without conscience.
I hear you, and I'm not perfect. I'm 30. I don't drive, I ride my mountain bike everywhere when I can, and take mass transit when I can't. I use my PC daily because it's part of my livelihood. I've never thought about the conditions under which it was made, which kind of sucks now that you mention it, but at the same time I learned a long time ago that if you really look into everything in society, you may as well just leave it all behind and just live in the hills somewhere, because all of it is screwed up on some level. You just have to chose your vices as wisely as you can, and make an effort where you can afford to.
No offense taken, because I'm comfortable where I'm at in life because I know I at least *try*, and that's a lot more conscience than the entirety of my immediate social circle shows.
... and only because it doesn't cost as much? I hope not, but I could imagine that. It makes me sick how brainwashed some people are in this regard (let alone others).
Because of all the dirt surrounding the diamond industry, I will never buy one, and when/if I propose to my girlfriend she's getting a ring with any gem other than a diamond. (And not because I'm some cheap-ass.)
Of course, any woman that doesn't accept you as life-partner because you didn't spend enough money on her engagement item is superficial, materialistic trash anyway.
Fuck that. Fight that shit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are no legal grounds that prevent them from constructing code to emulate a PC on the DS system, or "port" the Starcraft executables to another system.
But even if I am wrong, fuck them anyway. I love Blizzard, they make wonderful games, but this corporate overruling of people's hobbies/freedoms to create has GOT. TO. STOP. Fight it, even if it is "illegal", the system of laws is just a man-made constriction on reality anyway. Fight it, you can change it.
On a more rational note, Blizzard is just getting a free wider audience and awareness for their products. If they want to be pansies about it, they should suck it up because it will only benefit them in the end anyway.
You may be a Sci-Fi nut but I am pretty certain the Film Noir genre has to appeal to you a great deal too in order to enjoy this (assuming it doesn't already).
I felt Blade Runner was a masterful work. It did not bore me because what it lacked in action (if action can be "lacking", since it's not a prerequisit for a good film anyhow), it made up for in atmosphere.
Yeah, and you can't really do the 30% restocking fee or a similar means of deterrance without having a few inncocent customers get shafted in the process. Too many times has circumstance allowed a retailer to screw me over, when it's something (kind of like this) that didn't even pertain to me.
Capitalism isn't that hot when combined with human greed.
Wow man! You're just like me! I never thought I'd find another Win98SE user out there!
I have been in the game industry for 15 years. It's a big mess. Four days to polish a product?
:(
On majority of the projects in my career, from Sony to Activision, and many smaller studios in between, four days of polish time was and continues to be about as likely as the company buying every employee a new house for all their hard work.
This is the norm for us, folks. We usually ship our games out around an alpha stage, every single time. The people who have the money in this industry and who make the overall decisions have the sole goal of making money. Polish, Gameplay, and anything else that would result in a quality product are pushed to the back as long as other elements of the equasion, such as marketting and brand recognition, can be used to hide it.
As well as being a developer I am also a gamer, having grown up with the industry since it's infancy, and I hate the situation the medium is currently in. Right now we're most likely witnessing the turning point for interactive media. As it grows and becomes adopted as the new popular media of choice, it also becomes more and more diluted to appeal to the wider audiences, and what were essentially going to be left with in 10 years is television all over again. Hundereds of games (channels) and nothing is on worth watching.
They're also obviously working with the interviewer, and are just planted there to make the whole scene look a little more balanced out I'd imagine.
It's ironic to me that you are comfortable using Steam, which opens much of your PC to the Valve network (sharing information about your computer, sends marketting statistics, etc), but don't want secureROM installed on your PC.
In my opinion, Steam is far worse than any regular DRM, because instead of simply installing software that checks and validates your game, you're allowing a company access via network to your game where they can outright regulate whatever you do with it.
I never installed Steam for that reason. It freaks me out. I don't want anyone on my machine other than myself, and I don't feel companies have a right to regulation on that level.
Even though this Bioshock thing turns out not to be a true Rootkit, it's a game I was going to buy, but now that I see they install this additional mess, I will be passing it up.
I will be happy if a piracy group supplies with me a DRM free version. But I truly LIKE to give my money to teams that deserve it, and I feel the inclusion of secureROM in this game may be robbing a very deserving team of it's sales.
In the end, if the publisher feels they need to install anything that is not necessary to the game itself, they will not get my money.
You can't dismiss another persons concerns about the world simply by tagging their arguments as "teen angst". That in itself is an imature perspective.
I'm 30, and as I watch my country slip into a sick pit of capitalistic facism, I think speaking out about it is the best way to show concern and encourage others to act as well. I live in america where our whole world is controlled by entities such as these. I have every right to be irate about the level of dishonesty and corruption in the corporate world. They slight us all on a personal level every time they pull something like this. If you really feel that's being overdramatic, then as a member of "the real world" I implore you to not care about my angst. Please.
Now that we've caught these people exploiting the part of wikipedia that NO ONE should exploit simply because it undermines the very principle of this community-based system, who will change these entries back? WILL these entries be changed back?
It seems kind of limp to blow the horn on them but not remove the erroneous edits they made. Even if this information is subjective, if a company edits this info to benefit said company, that doesn't seem fair. As a slave/consumer in this country, it makes me cringe every time a large corporation gets away with this kind of bullshit. When is enough, enough?