So, you're ok with me sitting outside your house with five Marshall amps and playing recordings of thunder at full volume, loud enough to break your windows?
I was alive when the military flew supersonic over land, son. You would not want the Concorde flying over your house at mach 2. The government was sued by homowners for damage the noise caused, and the government lost the case.
I suggest you and the other youngsters look up "sonic boom" on wikipedia, because you really look foolish to us geezers who have actually heard them. Ever seen the shuttle take off? It's about the same level of noise.
Dude, there's no point in bringing up facts when conversing with a Repuiblican. They don't want truth, they want "truthiness". The Republicans would have you believe that it's Obama's fault the economy crashed shortly before he was elected, or that it must have somehow been Clinton's fault, or that Obama should have been able to clean up a mess that took Bush eight years to make in only three!
"Bush is a Republican! He can do no wrong!"
Bush is the very worst President I've seen in my lifetime, and I've seen some real stinkers from both parties in my sixty years. You are correct; it was Bush who let MS off with a slap on the wrist, it was Bush who ignored FBI field agents and the previous administration's warnings and got our country attacked, and it was Bush's tax cuts for the rich, wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, gasoline more than quadrupling in price (both Bush and Cheney were oil men, you don't need tinfoil to be suspicious, they profited personally from that expensive gasoline), and the Republican Senate voting to overturn Glass-Stegall with a veto-proof majority during Clinton that crashed the economy. We should call this recession the "Republican recession", except that ever since Coolige, we've had recession with every Republican President, and a good economy with most Democratic administrations.
Just be glad Ryan and Blago are in prison, I'd hate to see one of them in the White House! Either one (especially Blago) could possibly be worse than Bush. I fear Romney could almost be as bad.
I'll be modded down by the wingnuts from both parties but I don't care, I'm at karma cap anyway and it needed to be said.
Cue up the comments that have nothing to do with this story and use it to further their own political agendas.
Like, er, yours?
How is this really news for nerds? That's an easy one: it's about three year old hardware hackers! What I'd like to know, is what idiots moderated that useless comment "insightful?" You could probably get more insight from a three year old hardware hacker!
This isn't a "guns are bad, mkay" story, this is a "some engineers really fucked up" story.
Rather than quibbling about the meaning of a word, why not look it up?
Capitalism is an economic system that is based on private ownership of the means of production and the creation of goods or services for profit. Competitive markets, wage labor, capital accumulation, voluntary exchange, and personal finance are also considered capitalistic.[1] There are multiple variants of capitalism, including laissez-faire and state capitalism. Capitalism is considered to have applied in a variety of historical cases, varying in time, geography, politics, and culture.[2] There is general agreement that capitalism became dominant in the Western world following the demise of feudalism.[3]
You're saying dogs aren't mammals because cats are mammals and dogs aren't cats. In short, your definition is incorrect. Perhaps you're listening to the wrong drug-addled sex tourist on your radio? You would do well to broaden your horizons.
Why the fuck do they have to switch from what they're using now anyway?
Probably because he's tired of supporting his friends' numerous Windows issues. When a friend brings me a "broken" Windows machine, I always tell them "break it again and I'm installing Linux."
A ten year old computer running Win 7? And why does he have CC#s and other personal info in his WORK computer?
I'll bet the poor guy got fired for disobeying IT policy. Or more likely, the submission was a troll. How many businesses upgrade an OS without upgrading the hardware? And what business computer from ten years ago will run Win 7? Maybe a gaming rig, but not a work computer. Hell, my work computer is 10 years old and it will barely run XP!
I say his problem is his own damned fault. Entering your CC#s in someone else's computer? Is he nuts??
The military ran planes at supersonic speeds over land in the '50s and '60s. It made the ground shake and often shattered windows. Yes, I remember sonic booms. They were LOUD.
Who modded the above misinformation "informative"? Someone please correct the moderation. If you moderated that comment, please undo by posting. If you did not but have mod points, please change to "overrated".
Yes, that was pretty much my point. Parents should know that kids put stuff in their mouths, and should keep anything that might choke them out of reach. But some people are just bad parents, period.
I was fully against both Iraq wars. My dad was the Korea war generation, his brothers were in WWII. It isn't a generational thing, it's a rich man thing. The "greatest generation" rich were no different than the rich in my generation and the rich in yours. Don't blame the working man for what the lazy rich fatass who runs the world does to ruin it.
Yes, wattage = amperage times voltage. But the voltage coming out of a transformer is static. If too much power is pulled through that transformer, the extra wattage it attempts to pull will blow up the transformer.
If there's an undervoltage at the end of a distribution line, that's what's called "line loss". Ohm's law is also not negotiable. Put any electricity through a resistor, and the voltage will drop. It's not that there's too many people connected to the same transformer, it's that there's too much wire between the transformer and the house; wire does have greater than zero electrical resistance. What's neededd there is an additional transformer.
I'm no machead, and in fact the only Apple product I own is an old G3 someone gave me. I do read, however, and use Windows and Linux. I merely pointed out that there is a distinct difference between a virus and a trojan. Actually, I'm not sure Windows even gets viruses any more, although I wouldn't bet money on it.
I can almost understand Apple fans, I can't for the life of me understand Windows fans.
You COULD spend entertaining hours reverse engineering that thing
I've thought about having Kevin take the dash out and remove it so I could do just that. Chances are it's an off the shelf microcontroller with a ROM and maybe a few diodes and resistors, if so it should be cheap and easy to repair. Any discrete components would be easy to test, and if they['re good it's a 50/50 chance that the microcontroller is bad. Of course, if it's a bad ROM I'll have to replace the module.
Linux being now more buggy and slower than Windows.
Two years ago I had kubuntu and Win 7 on the same notebook, Windows booted slightly faster, but after the boot, Linux was faster. Windows boots faster because it doesn't do as much on boot -- it only boots to a clean desktop, while kubuntu opens all the apps and documents that were open when you shut it down, and does more checks, which makes it a bit more stable.
the driver support is actually pretty good in Linux these days.
Indeed. Seven or eight years ago I bought a Logitech cordless keyboard and mouse combo with extra buttons on the mouse and keyboard, the only things that worked in Linux were the bare-bones functions, none of the advanced features. Now, the advanced features are working on them.
Six months ago I bought a bluetooth dongle, and since there was no installation CD for Linux I thought it would only work on the Win 7 notebook. I installed its program and rebooted, at which point Windows saw it, installed the drivers, and required a second reboot. I plugged the dongle in the Linux tower, and it just worked! No drivers needed, no program to install, it was truly plug and play, unlike Windows.
MS has some catching up to do. I think a lot of Linux users are keeping this info under their hats so they can feel "133t" and the masses won't invade their domain.
For the average user, Linux is still awful as far as "usability" goes. While it's fine for us power-geeks, telling someone they have to write a.desktop file in a particular format in superuser mode in order to create a shortcut for an application which won't otherwise pin to the Ubuntu launcher - for example - is a joke.
Ubuntu != Linux. I don't like Gnome, but you do not, in fact, have to write any files anywhere to put a shortcut on the desktop in KDE. Linux was far less useable than Windows ten years ago, but that's no longer true.
It's as simple as this: if the average user needs to use the console EVER, the OS is not ready for the general public.
That's true, but you don't have to go to the console for anything, unless you forget your root password and have to go into recovery mode to reset it. That's no different than XP (I just had to reset a Windows user's XP Admin password she'd forgotten, I used a Linux tool to do so). I'm using my Linux box as a media center, and the keyboard sits on a shelf with its batteries dead -- everything I do on that box is with the mouse.
If you have to read a man page in order to discover how to use a piece of software, that software is flawed, and fails at usability for the general populace.
That's true for any app or OS. Try using MS Access without training! The truth is, Linux apps are as easy as Windows apps.
One link for 32bit & 64bit MacOS X. For Linux however, a wiki page, 45 initial links for various Linux flavors
That's a benefit, not a hindrance. You would rather Howard Johnson's only carry chocolate and vanilla? If Ford only gave you the schoice of an Escort or an F-150, don't you think Chevy would eat their lunch? You would rather stores only sell two brands of toothpaste?
With Linux, you don't need to go to virtualbox's web site to install it, it's in your distro's repository, which is in KDE's "start menu" (thay call it a "K-Menu"). You enter your user password to get into the repository (not unlike a Windows install. When it opens, click "virtualbox" and it's installed. No muss, no fuss, no reboots. It just works.
Lets be clear.. it's a huge amount of trouble to make software "just work" on Linux.
See the above paragraph. It installs, it works. Period.
Windows needs more maintenance and Linux less?
Yes. I have a Win7 notebook and an old HP running kubuntu. The Windows box constantly nags me to install updates and reboot, reboot, reboot, the Linux box has a message come up briefly "updates are available". Click it, and the PC updates itself, no UAEs, no reboots, it just works.
However, what it does on its own is not "maintenance" as far as any user is concerned.
True -- but Linux does it on its own, Windows requires that you stop whatever you're doing and reboot. I learned back in the XP days that letting Windows update autoatically is not safe -- an XP update replaced a perfectly good LAN driver with one that didn't work at all, and I lost internet connectivity. I had a hard time figuring out what was wrong, my ISP's support people thought my card was bad. Nope, just my stupid OS. Now I make sure I know what its changing so if something breaks (which happens far too often in Windows) it's a lot easier to fix.
Patches do come more frequently, largely due to expectations of professionals
Expectations of professionals?? You mean professional security people who tell MS that they need to patch because there's an easy exploit?
Linux on the otherhand - take Ubuntu again
No thanks, I hate Gnome for the reasons you mentioned. Try KDE, you'll likely never go back to Windows again, unless you're a gamer or use NetFlix. If either is the case, you're stuck with Windows.
You know the greatest generation, who went through depression and war?
You mean the generation that spawned the likes of Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hirohito? That was the greatest generation?
Their kids, The Baby Boomers will be known to history as the Shittiest Generation.
The generation that the "greatest generation" drafted to be cannon fodder in the Greatest generation's Vietnam war? The generation that went through the stagflation the "greatest" generation caused? The generation that ended Jim Crow? The generation that got Nixon to resign? The generation that got the EPA started and cleaned up an incredibly dirty environment? The generation that invented PCs, cell phones, MRIs, the internet?
Yeah, my generation is shitty, all right.
Fuck you, kid. Get off the internet, the shittiest generation built it and you aren't welcome to use it.
The proper moderation for a factually incorrect statement ("Linux has no GUI, you have to have a terminal open") is "overrated", not "troll". Better yet is to correct their ignorance with a reply.
If it's WILDLY inaccurate ("Windows is the safest, least crash-prone OS there is"), "Funny" might be appropriate.
It's something you did that most people can't even imagine having to do -- like programming in assembly, or walking to school
Why, thank you, young fellow! To tell the truth, I rather enjoyed learning assembly (but I've always enjoyed learning anyway). Assembling the machine code by hand since I had no assembler was a bit of a pain, though... I had to walk to school, but there were no hills. And no computers (I had a slide rule to cheat in math class with).
I bet most people using computers never had to deal with IRQ assignments for hardware to make them all work together. It was a pain in the ass, but we all fought through it.
I kind of miss flipping toggle switches in the old XT when I wanted to add hardware. Plug n play kind of took some of the fun out of it.
If you over-utilize a power distribution network, your voltages will drop
You don't know much about electricity, do you? The voltage won't drop; the transformer will overheat and explode in a noisy shower of pretty sparks (that is, if you're lucky. If you're unlucky the substation will explode) when it gets overloaded.
They use water as a kind of way of giving you a vision of how electricity flows, equating voltage with pressure and amperage with volume, but it doesn't really work that way. If your house has an undervoltage, it's not because your neighbor's using too much electricity, it's because the transformer on the pole outside is faulty.
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So, you're ok with me sitting outside your house with five Marshall amps and playing recordings of thunder at full volume, loud enough to break your windows?
I was alive when the military flew supersonic over land, son. You would not want the Concorde flying over your house at mach 2. The government was sued by homowners for damage the noise caused, and the government lost the case.
I suggest you and the other youngsters look up "sonic boom" on wikipedia, because you really look foolish to us geezers who have actually heard them. Ever seen the shuttle take off? It's about the same level of noise.
Dude, there's no point in bringing up facts when conversing with a Repuiblican. They don't want truth, they want "truthiness". The Republicans would have you believe that it's Obama's fault the economy crashed shortly before he was elected, or that it must have somehow been Clinton's fault, or that Obama should have been able to clean up a mess that took Bush eight years to make in only three!
"Bush is a Republican! He can do no wrong!"
Bush is the very worst President I've seen in my lifetime, and I've seen some real stinkers from both parties in my sixty years. You are correct; it was Bush who let MS off with a slap on the wrist, it was Bush who ignored FBI field agents and the previous administration's warnings and got our country attacked, and it was Bush's tax cuts for the rich, wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, gasoline more than quadrupling in price (both Bush and Cheney were oil men, you don't need tinfoil to be suspicious, they profited personally from that expensive gasoline), and the Republican Senate voting to overturn Glass-Stegall with a veto-proof majority during Clinton that crashed the economy. We should call this recession the "Republican recession", except that ever since Coolige, we've had recession with every Republican President, and a good economy with most Democratic administrations.
Just be glad Ryan and Blago are in prison, I'd hate to see one of them in the White House! Either one (especially Blago) could possibly be worse than Bush. I fear Romney could almost be as bad.
I'll be modded down by the wingnuts from both parties but I don't care, I'm at karma cap anyway and it needed to be said.
Cue up the comments that have nothing to do with this story and use it to further their own political agendas.
Like, er, yours?
How is this really news for nerds? That's an easy one: it's about three year old hardware hackers! What I'd like to know, is what idiots moderated that useless comment "insightful?" You could probably get more insight from a three year old hardware hacker!
This isn't a "guns are bad, mkay" story, this is a "some engineers really fucked up" story.
I took a notebook running kubuntu to a bar last year, and of course someone came up and asked "what version of Windows is that?"
Rather than quibbling about the meaning of a word, why not look it up?
You're saying dogs aren't mammals because cats are mammals and dogs aren't cats. In short, your definition is incorrect. Perhaps you're listening to the wrong drug-addled sex tourist on your radio? You would do well to broaden your horizons.
Why the fuck do they have to switch from what they're using now anyway?
Probably because he's tired of supporting his friends' numerous Windows issues. When a friend brings me a "broken" Windows machine, I always tell them "break it again and I'm installing Linux."
I'll bet you're an Apple user! Who cares what a tool looks like?
A ten year old computer running Win 7? And why does he have CC#s and other personal info in his WORK computer?
I'll bet the poor guy got fired for disobeying IT policy. Or more likely, the submission was a troll. How many businesses upgrade an OS without upgrading the hardware? And what business computer from ten years ago will run Win 7? Maybe a gaming rig, but not a work computer. Hell, my work computer is 10 years old and it will barely run XP!
I say his problem is his own damned fault. Entering your CC#s in someone else's computer? Is he nuts??
The military ran planes at supersonic speeds over land in the '50s and '60s. It made the ground shake and often shattered windows. Yes, I remember sonic booms. They were LOUD.
Who modded the above misinformation "informative"? Someone please correct the moderation. If you moderated that comment, please undo by posting. If you did not but have mod points, please change to "overrated".
Yes, that was pretty much my point. Parents should know that kids put stuff in their mouths, and should keep anything that might choke them out of reach. But some people are just bad parents, period.
I was fully against both Iraq wars. My dad was the Korea war generation, his brothers were in WWII. It isn't a generational thing, it's a rich man thing. The "greatest generation" rich were no different than the rich in my generation and the rich in yours. Don't blame the working man for what the lazy rich fatass who runs the world does to ruin it.
Yes, wattage = amperage times voltage. But the voltage coming out of a transformer is static. If too much power is pulled through that transformer, the extra wattage it attempts to pull will blow up the transformer.
If there's an undervoltage at the end of a distribution line, that's what's called "line loss". Ohm's law is also not negotiable. Put any electricity through a resistor, and the voltage will drop. It's not that there's too many people connected to the same transformer, it's that there's too much wire between the transformer and the house; wire does have greater than zero electrical resistance. What's neededd there is an additional transformer.
I'm no machead, and in fact the only Apple product I own is an old G3 someone gave me. I do read, however, and use Windows and Linux. I merely pointed out that there is a distinct difference between a virus and a trojan. Actually, I'm not sure Windows even gets viruses any more, although I wouldn't bet money on it.
I can almost understand Apple fans, I can't for the life of me understand Windows fans.
You COULD spend entertaining hours reverse engineering that thing
I've thought about having Kevin take the dash out and remove it so I could do just that. Chances are it's an off the shelf microcontroller with a ROM and maybe a few diodes and resistors, if so it should be cheap and easy to repair. Any discrete components would be easy to test, and if they['re good it's a 50/50 chance that the microcontroller is bad. Of course, if it's a bad ROM I'll have to replace the module.
You're wrong. I own a 2002 Concorde.
Linux being now more buggy and slower than Windows.
Two years ago I had kubuntu and Win 7 on the same notebook, Windows booted slightly faster, but after the boot, Linux was faster. Windows boots faster because it doesn't do as much on boot -- it only boots to a clean desktop, while kubuntu opens all the apps and documents that were open when you shut it down, and does more checks, which makes it a bit more stable.
the driver support is actually pretty good in Linux these days.
Indeed. Seven or eight years ago I bought a Logitech cordless keyboard and mouse combo with extra buttons on the mouse and keyboard, the only things that worked in Linux were the bare-bones functions, none of the advanced features. Now, the advanced features are working on them.
Six months ago I bought a bluetooth dongle, and since there was no installation CD for Linux I thought it would only work on the Win 7 notebook. I installed its program and rebooted, at which point Windows saw it, installed the drivers, and required a second reboot. I plugged the dongle in the Linux tower, and it just worked! No drivers needed, no program to install, it was truly plug and play, unlike Windows.
MS has some catching up to do. I think a lot of Linux users are keeping this info under their hats so they can feel "133t" and the masses won't invade their domain.
For the average user, Linux is still awful as far as "usability" goes. While it's fine for us power-geeks, telling someone they have to write a .desktop file in a particular format in superuser mode in order to create a shortcut for an application which won't otherwise pin to the Ubuntu launcher - for example - is a joke.
Ubuntu != Linux. I don't like Gnome, but you do not, in fact, have to write any files anywhere to put a shortcut on the desktop in KDE. Linux was far less useable than Windows ten years ago, but that's no longer true.
It's as simple as this: if the average user needs to use the console EVER, the OS is not ready for the general public.
That's true, but you don't have to go to the console for anything, unless you forget your root password and have to go into recovery mode to reset it. That's no different than XP (I just had to reset a Windows user's XP Admin password she'd forgotten, I used a Linux tool to do so). I'm using my Linux box as a media center, and the keyboard sits on a shelf with its batteries dead -- everything I do on that box is with the mouse.
If you have to read a man page in order to discover how to use a piece of software, that software is flawed, and fails at usability for the general populace.
That's true for any app or OS. Try using MS Access without training! The truth is, Linux apps are as easy as Windows apps.
One link for 32bit & 64bit MacOS X. For Linux however, a wiki page, 45 initial links for various Linux flavors
That's a benefit, not a hindrance. You would rather Howard Johnson's only carry chocolate and vanilla? If Ford only gave you the schoice of an Escort or an F-150, don't you think Chevy would eat their lunch? You would rather stores only sell two brands of toothpaste?
With Linux, you don't need to go to virtualbox's web site to install it, it's in your distro's repository, which is in KDE's "start menu" (thay call it a "K-Menu"). You enter your user password to get into the repository (not unlike a Windows install. When it opens, click "virtualbox" and it's installed. No muss, no fuss, no reboots. It just works.
Lets be clear.. it's a huge amount of trouble to make software "just work" on Linux.
See the above paragraph. It installs, it works. Period.
Windows needs more maintenance and Linux less?
Yes. I have a Win7 notebook and an old HP running kubuntu. The Windows box constantly nags me to install updates and reboot, reboot, reboot, the Linux box has a message come up briefly "updates are available". Click it, and the PC updates itself, no UAEs, no reboots, it just works.
However, what it does on its own is not "maintenance" as far as any user is concerned.
True -- but Linux does it on its own, Windows requires that you stop whatever you're doing and reboot. I learned back in the XP days that letting Windows update autoatically is not safe -- an XP update replaced a perfectly good LAN driver with one that didn't work at all, and I lost internet connectivity. I had a hard time figuring out what was wrong, my ISP's support people thought my card was bad. Nope, just my stupid OS. Now I make sure I know what its changing so if something breaks (which happens far too often in Windows) it's a lot easier to fix.
Patches do come more frequently, largely due to expectations of professionals
Expectations of professionals?? You mean professional security people who tell MS that they need to patch because there's an easy exploit?
Linux on the otherhand - take Ubuntu again
No thanks, I hate Gnome for the reasons you mentioned. Try KDE, you'll likely never go back to Windows again, unless you're a gamer or use NetFlix. If either is the case, you're stuck with Windows.
Wiring diagram came up in the results, but none pertained to schematics of the control unit, but rather the harness wiring.
your iris can not. Well, not without some B grade horror movie level surgery.
You're calling Minority Report a B grade horror movie??
You know the greatest generation, who went through depression and war?
You mean the generation that spawned the likes of Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hirohito? That was the greatest generation?
Their kids, The Baby Boomers will be known to history as the Shittiest Generation.
The generation that the "greatest generation" drafted to be cannon fodder in the Greatest generation's Vietnam war? The generation that went through the stagflation the "greatest" generation caused? The generation that ended Jim Crow? The generation that got Nixon to resign? The generation that got the EPA started and cleaned up an incredibly dirty environment? The generation that invented PCs, cell phones, MRIs, the internet?
Yeah, my generation is shitty, all right.
Fuck you, kid. Get off the internet, the shittiest generation built it and you aren't welcome to use it.
The proper moderation for a factually incorrect statement ("Linux has no GUI, you have to have a terminal open") is "overrated", not "troll". Better yet is to correct their ignorance with a reply.
If it's WILDLY inaccurate ("Windows is the safest, least crash-prone OS there is"), "Funny" might be appropriate.
It's something you did that most people can't even imagine having to do -- like programming in assembly, or walking to school
Why, thank you, young fellow! To tell the truth, I rather enjoyed learning assembly (but I've always enjoyed learning anyway). Assembling the machine code by hand since I had no assembler was a bit of a pain, though... I had to walk to school, but there were no hills. And no computers (I had a slide rule to cheat in math class with).
I bet most people using computers never had to deal with IRQ assignments for hardware to make them all work together. It was a pain in the ass, but we all fought through it.
I kind of miss flipping toggle switches in the old XT when I wanted to add hardware. Plug n play kind of took some of the fun out of it.
let's fix you're spelling frist, then work on the spead of you're posting
Mod parent funny, I got a chuckle out of that!
If you over-utilize a power distribution network, your voltages will drop
You don't know much about electricity, do you? The voltage won't drop; the transformer will overheat and explode in a noisy shower of pretty sparks (that is, if you're lucky. If you're unlucky the substation will explode) when it gets overloaded.
They use water as a kind of way of giving you a vision of how electricity flows, equating voltage with pressure and amperage with volume, but it doesn't really work that way. If your house has an undervoltage, it's not because your neighbor's using too much electricity, it's because the transformer on the pole outside is faulty.
I've heard a lot of boasting on this site about how secure Linux is.
Linux and Macs and BSD only seem secure... when compared to Windows.