We're all a product of our times. We are always part of our environment. We change because times change, and times change because we change.
It's been quite a while since I've read anything about his racism but again, as late as 1960 almost everyone was racist to a point. I know because I lived in those times, and it was evident even to a kid. Remember, in 1947 there were "whites only" and "blacks only" stores, rest rooms, drinking fountains. Read the story and you can hardly help but see the connection in his mind between blacks and monkeys (racists often call black people "porch monkeys" among other slurs).
Dude, it was institutionalized back then. American Apartheid. He was a product of his time. And like any authors, whether a pro or antagonist depends on the story.
I always a fan of Heinlein's writing, not necessarily of him.
If you truly paid for cable, every channel would be as expensive as HBO.
Bullshit. When we first got cable in 1980 we had about twenty channels, including the local stations and HBO. None of the cable channels were censored or had commercials.
It cost $10 per month. Now? The same channels, except many of the good ones like Discovery (which used to be science but is now "trick my truck") and History (used to be history now has UFOs and Dan Brown type bullshit) now suck, plus 300 more channels, none of which I'd ever watch, for $75 and now the cable channels suck almost as bad as OTA and in some cases, even more. And they now have ads while the damned content is playing.
It's bullshit. Charge me money for the service, then serve ads, and you're charging me twice. Fuck ComCast.
DSL. You can get cable internet without cable TV, and you can get DSL without a landline. I haven't had cable for over ten years -- too much money for too little programming.
"But we have 500 channels!"
Yes, but all but maybe five suck and I already have more than five over the air. I refuse to pay for BET, the Golf channel, all the women's channels, ESPN and the other dozen sports channels. If ComCast wants me for a customer they'll give me CNN, Discovery, History, and... um... I can't think of any more. I'd be willing to pay $3 per month for those three channels.
As to NetFlix, the only things I could watch it on are a phone and a small notebook -- the computer the TV is plugged into runs Linux. So fuck NetFlix, too.
If the bar down the street had a stronger WiFi signal (their router is in their basement) I'd get rid of DSL.
I guess for the NhRP different classes of persons are entitled to different rights. Then again, that is pretty much what slave owners thought, too.
Incorrect. Slave owners didn't think of slaves as "persons" at all, to them they were simply another species of farm animal, no different than a dog or a horse or any other working farm animal. Just as you have "house dogs" and "field dogs" they had "house niggers" and "field niggers".
This is, in fact, why blacks are so offended by the word "nigger". If you call a man a nigger you're saying he's not human. Also the same reason calling a black man "boy" will, with good reason, raise his ire. "Here, boy!"
Exactly, which is why I posted a link to Heinlein's Jerry Was A Man in the first slashdot story about this. Heinlein, like these lawyers, was a racist (although in his defense, everyone was in 1947).
Aldus, you need to work on your written communication skills, because this sentence Yes thats the fun part, how where the ip's in one jurisdiction found? Is completely meaningless. Apparently some moderators can translate your gibberish since you were modded up, can anybody translate this guy for me?
Not me, although raising the price of a stamp over $1.00 would have me paying my trash and gas bills online, since they charge that much to do it electronically. I used to just pay the gas bill at the gas company, but they closed their local office. The trash company is across town so mailing a check is cheaper than either driving or doing it electronically.
Still, I probably spend less than $20 per year on stamps so it wouldn't bother me much.
As to the junk mail, it seldom gets past my door -- there's a bag on the front porch with about fifty pounds of junk mail. However, I did actually get a piece of junk mail that was welcome, from a printer in St Louis (obviously got my address from Bowker). I may have them print the paperback version of Nobots for me, their prices are a lot more reasonable than Lulu.
The AC above hit the nail on the head, although I doubt it's just Bayer. My guess, though, living in the middle of a farming state is that Bayer will be selling a lot less of the pesticides thought to cause this. More study is nice, but we know these chemicals fuck bees up. While they're studying (and they should continue) they should stop using these insecticides.
I wonder if Monsanto is working on a patented, genetically engineered bee that's resistant to this stuff?
He's referring o the Jackson Five, kid. A band of sibling children fifty years ago whose songs were constantly on the radio and TV and who made millions of dollars. One of them died last year, you might have heard of him, his name was Michael.
Now, how far down this offtopic horse shit am I going to have to dig to find an on-topic comment? Preferably someone who can teach me something?
Any simulation of the world will be as complex as the original.
Utter nonsense. Do you think that computer simulations of atomic blasts model every subatomic particle in the blast area? Do you think weather simulations model every molecule in the Earth's atmosphere?
How's your math? Have you looked at it or read the papers? Or did you just figure "that's bullshit" based on an article about it written by someone whose major was English?
Dawkins is an embarrassment to science. Reason? Odd, disingenuous name for an anti-religion, antitheist tour considering that most religions give reasons why we're here, even though they often conflict, while atheists believe that there is no reason whatever that we're here, that the universe is an accident that "just happened" for no reason whatever.
You can neither reason your way out of nor into religion. You see, or you don't. Or you don't and believe those who do, Or you don't and pretend to, as many people do. You're not going to reason me out of believing in something I've experienced.
Scientists traveling on a pro-science, pro-logic, pro-math tour? I'm all for that. But folks of any profession, whether scientist or garbage collector, going on an anti-religion tour is a silly waste of time. There's no reason whatever for this tour. They're acting like evangelicals.
Dawkins is delusional. There's no way you can convince someone who has experienced God that God doesn't exist. We would all be better off if Dawkins would end his foolish quest to rid the world of God and do what he actually has training and experience in -- science.
Dawkins, talk science and I'll listen. Trash talk Jesus and Bhudda and Muhammed and I'll simply laugh at you sadly. It's a pitiful, meaningless quest. Scientists everywhere should be ashamed of this ignorant clown.
It ate a LOT of my quarters, too, and I was in my thirties. I thought the coolest part, aside from the 3D 1st person graphics was the controllers; just like a real tank (or so I'm told).
BTW, since we're into gaming nostalgia, you might want to hit the link in my sig. When does Quake turn 20? It's only a couple more years, isn't it?
You need more coffee. Monsanto is a chemical company, not an electronics company. Why would a chemical company spread printed circuit boards?
I'm surprised you never heard of polychlorinated biphenyls (which I probably misspelled), they were used as transformer oil for almost a hundred years (that's electrical transformers, PCBs were used as coolant). My dad was a lineman, he's now dying of cancer from PCBs. Purina killed his dad, Monsanto is kiling him. Yet dufuses at slashdot scream for less regulation. Meanwhile, now that we have the EPA you can drive past the plant in Sauget and the air no longer burns your lungs.
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We're all a product of our times. We are always part of our environment. We change because times change, and times change because we change.
It's been quite a while since I've read anything about his racism but again, as late as 1960 almost everyone was racist to a point. I know because I lived in those times, and it was evident even to a kid. Remember, in 1947 there were "whites only" and "blacks only" stores, rest rooms, drinking fountains. Read the story and you can hardly help but see the connection in his mind between blacks and monkeys (racists often call black people "porch monkeys" among other slurs).
Point to one PERIOD. If you could have you would have.
Case closed. Goodbye.
Wow, mcgrew. You called me "kid,"
At least I didn't order you off my lawn.
Hey pops, time flies when you get older, huh?
Yes it does! Just you wait...
Grammar? Can you translate it for me? I can't make heads or tails of it.
Maybe he's German and English is a second language to him, but I can't parse it.
I don't know, but that doesn't seem to be how it works.
Dude, it was institutionalized back then. American Apartheid. He was a product of his time. And like any authors, whether a pro or antagonist depends on the story.
I always a fan of Heinlein's writing, not necessarily of him.
Oh, well there's your problem, you have a wife, I got rid of mine ten years ago. Or she got rid of me and the kids...
You would like the book I'm writing now, then. The robots just wash dishes and stuff, but there's 200 whores on a ship to Mars.
How about Foundation world? Or a Nobots world (although I wouldn't want to be in the Martian military, or live on Venus)?
And since we're talking about worlds that will likely never actually be, how about Middle Earth or a DiscWorld?
If you truly paid for cable, every channel would be as expensive as HBO.
Bullshit. When we first got cable in 1980 we had about twenty channels, including the local stations and HBO. None of the cable channels were censored or had commercials.
It cost $10 per month. Now? The same channels, except many of the good ones like Discovery (which used to be science but is now "trick my truck") and History (used to be history now has UFOs and Dan Brown type bullshit) now suck, plus 300 more channels, none of which I'd ever watch, for $75 and now the cable channels suck almost as bad as OTA and in some cases, even more. And they now have ads while the damned content is playing.
It's bullshit. Charge me money for the service, then serve ads, and you're charging me twice. Fuck ComCast.
How do you get Netflix without cable?
DSL. You can get cable internet without cable TV, and you can get DSL without a landline. I haven't had cable for over ten years -- too much money for too little programming.
"But we have 500 channels!"
Yes, but all but maybe five suck and I already have more than five over the air. I refuse to pay for BET, the Golf channel, all the women's channels, ESPN and the other dozen sports channels. If ComCast wants me for a customer they'll give me CNN, Discovery, History, and... um... I can't think of any more. I'd be willing to pay $3 per month for those three channels.
As to NetFlix, the only things I could watch it on are a phone and a small notebook -- the computer the TV is plugged into runs Linux. So fuck NetFlix, too.
If the bar down the street had a stronger WiFi signal (their router is in their basement) I'd get rid of DSL.
I guess for the NhRP different classes of persons are entitled to different rights. Then again, that is pretty much what slave owners thought, too.
Incorrect. Slave owners didn't think of slaves as "persons" at all, to them they were simply another species of farm animal, no different than a dog or a horse or any other working farm animal. Just as you have "house dogs" and "field dogs" they had "house niggers" and "field niggers".
This is, in fact, why blacks are so offended by the word "nigger". If you call a man a nigger you're saying he's not human. Also the same reason calling a black man "boy" will, with good reason, raise his ire. "Here, boy!"
Exactly, which is why I posted a link to Heinlein's Jerry Was A Man in the first slashdot story about this. Heinlein, like these lawyers, was a racist (although in his defense, everyone was in 1947).
Aldus, you need to work on your written communication skills, because this sentence
Yes thats the fun part, how where the ip's in one jurisdiction found?
Is completely meaningless. Apparently some moderators can translate your gibberish since you were modded up, can anybody translate this guy for me?
Not me, although raising the price of a stamp over $1.00 would have me paying my trash and gas bills online, since they charge that much to do it electronically. I used to just pay the gas bill at the gas company, but they closed their local office. The trash company is across town so mailing a check is cheaper than either driving or doing it electronically.
Still, I probably spend less than $20 per year on stamps so it wouldn't bother me much.
As to the junk mail, it seldom gets past my door -- there's a bag on the front porch with about fifty pounds of junk mail. However, I did actually get a piece of junk mail that was welcome, from a printer in St Louis (obviously got my address from Bowker). I may have them print the paperback version of Nobots for me, their prices are a lot more reasonable than Lulu.
The AC above hit the nail on the head, although I doubt it's just Bayer. My guess, though, living in the middle of a farming state is that Bayer will be selling a lot less of the pesticides thought to cause this. More study is nice, but we know these chemicals fuck bees up. While they're studying (and they should continue) they should stop using these insecticides.
I wonder if Monsanto is working on a patented, genetically engineered bee that's resistant to this stuff?
He's referring o the Jackson Five, kid. A band of sibling children fifty years ago whose songs were constantly on the radio and TV and who made millions of dollars. One of them died last year, you might have heard of him, his name was Michael.
Now, how far down this offtopic horse shit am I going to have to dig to find an on-topic comment? Preferably someone who can teach me something?
Any simulation of the world will be as complex as the original.
Utter nonsense. Do you think that computer simulations of atomic blasts model every subatomic particle in the blast area? Do you think weather simulations model every molecule in the Earth's atmosphere?
How's your math? Have you looked at it or read the papers? Or did you just figure "that's bullshit" based on an article about it written by someone whose major was English?
Dawkins is an embarrassment to science. Reason? Odd, disingenuous name for an anti-religion, antitheist tour considering that most religions give reasons why we're here, even though they often conflict, while atheists believe that there is no reason whatever that we're here, that the universe is an accident that "just happened" for no reason whatever.
You can neither reason your way out of nor into religion. You see, or you don't. Or you don't and believe those who do, Or you don't and pretend to, as many people do. You're not going to reason me out of believing in something I've experienced.
Scientists traveling on a pro-science, pro-logic, pro-math tour? I'm all for that. But folks of any profession, whether scientist or garbage collector, going on an anti-religion tour is a silly waste of time. There's no reason whatever for this tour. They're acting like evangelicals.
Dawkins is delusional. There's no way you can convince someone who has experienced God that God doesn't exist. We would all be better off if Dawkins would end his foolish quest to rid the world of God and do what he actually has training and experience in -- science.
Dawkins, talk science and I'll listen. Trash talk Jesus and Bhudda and Muhammed and I'll simply laugh at you sadly. It's a pitiful, meaningless quest. Scientists everywhere should be ashamed of this ignorant clown.
It ate a LOT of my quarters, too, and I was in my thirties. I thought the coolest part, aside from the 3D 1st person graphics was the controllers; just like a real tank (or so I'm told).
BTW, since we're into gaming nostalgia, you might want to hit the link in my sig. When does Quake turn 20? It's only a couple more years, isn't it?
um... it doesn't stay winter forever.
It does in Antarctica, dufus.
I wrote that it was "before Detroit caved itself in" via unions.
Which was the fucking point. Unions had nothing to do with Detroit's demise no matter what Koch's teabaggers tell you.
I'm not anti-union.
Prove it. Point to a pro-union comment by you made before now.
You need more coffee. Monsanto is a chemical company, not an electronics company. Why would a chemical company spread printed circuit boards?
I'm surprised you never heard of polychlorinated biphenyls (which I probably misspelled), they were used as transformer oil for almost a hundred years (that's electrical transformers, PCBs were used as coolant). My dad was a lineman, he's now dying of cancer from PCBs. Purina killed his dad, Monsanto is kiling him. Yet dufuses at slashdot scream for less regulation. Meanwhile, now that we have the EPA you can drive past the plant in Sauget and the air no longer burns your lungs.