GMO's have been around since before I was born yet I'm closing on 30.
Yes and No. Scientists first discovered that DNA can transfer between organisms in 1946. The first genetically modified plant was produced in 1983, using an antibiotic-resistant tobacco plant. In 1994, the transgenic Flavr Savr tomato (the first GMO food) was approved by the FDA for marketing in the US - the modification allowed the tomato to delay ripening after picking. In the early 1990s, recombinant chymosin was approved for use in several countries, replacing rennet in cheese-making. In the US in 1995, the following transgenic crops received marketing approval: canola with modified oil composition (Calgene), Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) corn/maize (Ciba-Geigy), cotton resistant to the herbicide bromoxynil (Calgene), Bt cotton (Monsanto), Bt potatoes (Monsanto), soybeans resistant to the herbicide glyphosate (Monsanto), virus-resistant squash (Monsanto-Asgrow), and additional delayed ripening tomatoes (DNAP, Zeneca/Peto, and Monsanto). In 2000, with the creation of golden rice, scientists genetically modified food to increase its nutrient value for the first time. As of 2011, the U.S. leads a list of multiple countries in the production of GM crops, and 25 GM crops had received regulatory approval to be grown commercially. As of 2013, roughly 85% of corn, 91% of soybeans, and 88% of cotton produced in the United States are genetically modified.
So yes, technically GMO's have been around since before you were born, but GMO foods have only been around since 1994.
They're not being brought in terribly fast,the complaint that they're coming in too fast probably predates my birth as well.
85% of corn in the U.S. is GMO
91% of soybeans is GMO
88% of cotton is GMO
That means that within 19 years (since 1994), only 15% or less of those crops are conventionally grown anymore. If that much of a majority of GMO in 19 years isn't too fast, I don't know what is.
Introduction of plants that are incapable reproduction is very dangerous and simply should not be allowed.
Please explain. I, for one, would feel much better about GMO anything that was unable to reproduce on their own because:
1) If they did turn out to be harmful we wouldn't have to worry about future generations of the stuff
2) As a farmer that doesn't buy GMO I wouldn't have to worry about the seeds from another field blowing in and contaminating my crops and causing me to lose my farm due to copyright violations (yes, it happens)
3) Nobody would be able to save their seeds thereby preventing them from going against Monsanto's Terms of Service (no saving seed, purchase only from us).
Personally, I think it's reckless and irresponsible to grow anything GMO that's capable of reproduction on its own without some sort of catalyst...and that goes for plants and animals (such as the genetically engineered frankenfish they're trying to get approved in the U.S.).
Nor do your delusions of victimhood justify the hatred and attacks against those who don't share your lack of religion (that you wear on your sleeve like a religion).
...what else is so ubiquitous as to be a reasonable option that also doesnt suffer the same essential problems (certainly not a google account?)
I use Twitter when the option is available only because they don't collect data on me like facebook does. If it's facebook only, I usually won't sign up.
I use a tablet (Kindle Fire to be exact) for e-books and I like it just fine, but I only use it for free or low-price books. The problem I have with e-books is you lose all your rights with them. With real ink & paper books you can do what you want with them. They're yours forever until you decide to sell/trade/lend/donate/etc... them. With e-books, you don't have those options (yes yes, Amazon lets you "lend" a book...sometimes...with restrictions) and they're never really yours. They're only yours until that e-book provider shuts down, then your SOL. Just imagine what would have happened if Borders had their own e-book service like Amazon and Barns-n-Nobles when they went out of business. All those "books" you paid would have paid good money for (usually just as much as a real book) gone with no hope of return.
Uh, no we're not. The liberals you speak of are mostly California refugees that are fleeing the product of the choices they've made, laws and regulations they've mandated and politicians they've voted in. They're broke and it's their fault, but they'll never understand nor admit that it's the result of the choices they've made. Now they're spreading and they're going to fuck the rest of us the way they've fucked themselves.
This is a bit off topic, but I really wish any links posted in the comments automatically opened in a new window/tab so we didn't accidentally navigate away from the conversation.
...how is Twitter still relevant? Personally I think it makes a great single sign on service, but this whole 140 character limit they've imposed on themselves has rendered them useless for any kind of substantial communication IMO.
If it had been democrats Slashdot wouldn't have spun it a completely different light and all of the holier-than-thou liberal zealots on here would have been praising them and their enlightenment while smugly creaming in their apple-fanboy panties.
That's great if you know what you're looking for, but if you're searching for a specific app you rarely use and don't remember the name of it would be highly inefficient and frustrating.
Ok...what about Base? The last time I used it it was an unusable pile of crap that had no interoperability between other systems or file formats. No import, barely an export (if it had any at all) no connecting to outside sources what-so-ever. MS Access is the ONLY reason I still consider purchasing Office, not for its database functionality (which is fine) but because it can connect to just about anything on the planet.
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GMO's have been around since before I was born yet I'm closing on 30.
Yes and No. Scientists first discovered that DNA can transfer between organisms in 1946. The first genetically modified plant was produced in 1983, using an antibiotic-resistant tobacco plant. In 1994, the transgenic Flavr Savr tomato (the first GMO food) was approved by the FDA for marketing in the US - the modification allowed the tomato to delay ripening after picking. In the early 1990s, recombinant chymosin was approved for use in several countries, replacing rennet in cheese-making. In the US in 1995, the following transgenic crops received marketing approval: canola with modified oil composition (Calgene), Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) corn/maize (Ciba-Geigy), cotton resistant to the herbicide bromoxynil (Calgene), Bt cotton (Monsanto), Bt potatoes (Monsanto), soybeans resistant to the herbicide glyphosate (Monsanto), virus-resistant squash (Monsanto-Asgrow), and additional delayed ripening tomatoes (DNAP, Zeneca/Peto, and Monsanto). In 2000, with the creation of golden rice, scientists genetically modified food to increase its nutrient value for the first time. As of 2011, the U.S. leads a list of multiple countries in the production of GM crops, and 25 GM crops had received regulatory approval to be grown commercially. As of 2013, roughly 85% of corn, 91% of soybeans, and 88% of cotton produced in the United States are genetically modified.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food
So yes, technically GMO's have been around since before you were born, but GMO foods have only been around since 1994.
They're not being brought in terribly fast,the complaint that they're coming in too fast probably predates my birth as well.
85% of corn in the U.S. is GMO
91% of soybeans is GMO
88% of cotton is GMO
That means that within 19 years (since 1994), only 15% or less of those crops are conventionally grown anymore. If that much of a majority of GMO in 19 years isn't too fast, I don't know what is.
Introduction of plants that are incapable reproduction is very dangerous and simply should not be allowed.
Please explain. I, for one, would feel much better about GMO anything that was unable to reproduce on their own because:
1) If they did turn out to be harmful we wouldn't have to worry about future generations of the stuff
2) As a farmer that doesn't buy GMO I wouldn't have to worry about the seeds from another field blowing in and contaminating my crops and causing me to lose my farm due to copyright violations (yes, it happens)
3) Nobody would be able to save their seeds thereby preventing them from going against Monsanto's Terms of Service (no saving seed, purchase only from us).
Personally, I think it's reckless and irresponsible to grow anything GMO that's capable of reproduction on its own without some sort of catalyst...and that goes for plants and animals (such as the genetically engineered frankenfish they're trying to get approved in the U.S.).
Don't like it? Don't use it.
Because people are lazy and people outside of the IT industry think "encryption is hard"
Nor do your delusions of victimhood justify the hatred and attacks against those who don't share your lack of religion (that you wear on your sleeve like a religion).
Perhaps if atheists weren't constantly attacking religion, they wouldn't give to shits about your hipster atheist shoes.
Unreal Tournament also comes to mind.
Because you're going to be busy.
I suggest hookers, a case of viagra and pounds of coke or ex.
Isn't this what this whole discussion is about?
Not if you're the mechanic being paid to fix said car (think later down the road when they're affordable).
...what else is so ubiquitous as to be a reasonable option that also doesnt suffer the same essential problems (certainly not a google account?)
I use Twitter when the option is available only because they don't collect data on me like facebook does. If it's facebook only, I usually won't sign up.
...about as much as I want a Windoze phone. Not at all.
I use a tablet (Kindle Fire to be exact) for e-books and I like it just fine, but I only use it for free or low-price books. The problem I have with e-books is you lose all your rights with them. With real ink & paper books you can do what you want with them. They're yours forever until you decide to sell/trade/lend/donate/etc... them. With e-books, you don't have those options (yes yes, Amazon lets you "lend" a book...sometimes...with restrictions) and they're never really yours. They're only yours until that e-book provider shuts down, then your SOL. Just imagine what would have happened if Borders had their own e-book service like Amazon and Barns-n-Nobles when they went out of business. All those "books" you paid would have paid good money for (usually just as much as a real book) gone with no hope of return.
Uh, no we're not. The liberals you speak of are mostly California refugees that are fleeing the product of the choices they've made, laws and regulations they've mandated and politicians they've voted in. They're broke and it's their fault, but they'll never understand nor admit that it's the result of the choices they've made. Now they're spreading and they're going to fuck the rest of us the way they've fucked themselves.
No
I see what you did there. And no, I did not click.
Oh there you are kettle!
I've got a pot I'd like you to meet!
This is a bit off topic, but I really wish any links posted in the comments automatically opened in a new window/tab so we didn't accidentally navigate away from the conversation.
ummm...I hope you're kidding.
You never can tell around here.
...how is Twitter still relevant? Personally I think it makes a great single sign on service, but this whole 140 character limit they've imposed on themselves has rendered them useless for any kind of substantial communication IMO.
If it had been democrats Slashdot wouldn't have spun it a completely different light and all of the holier-than-thou liberal zealots on here would have been praising them and their enlightenment while smugly creaming in their apple-fanboy panties.
That's great if you know what you're looking for, but if you're searching for a specific app you rarely use and don't remember the name of it would be highly inefficient and frustrating.
That really is the only logical explanation.
Fat cats?
More like fat asses
Take your meds dude.
Ok...what about Base? The last time I used it it was an unusable pile of crap that had no interoperability between other systems or file formats. No import, barely an export (if it had any at all) no connecting to outside sources what-so-ever. MS Access is the ONLY reason I still consider purchasing Office, not for its database functionality (which is fine) but because it can connect to just about anything on the planet.