But maybe not in 10.
What was the exact date of the fall of the berlin wall? If you don't live in Germany, at least.
I only recall it was around this time of year and in 1989.
When did the soviet union collapse? Er, sometime in the early 90s?
Oh, I can answer this one (although I suspect that anyone working on IE7 might have a different, official answer).
There is one strong, obvious reason why MS still needs it's own browser. With every app slowly moving to the web, and the slow death of shrinkwrap software (i.e. you buy it at staples and it installs), you need one thing to have a usable computer: a web browser.
Problem is, you don't need Windows to run a web browser.
This is the situation that MS was trying to prevent back when they went out of their way to quash Netscape, albeit, it turns out, they were somewhat unsuccesful (thank-you-open-source).
So, what do you do now? You're in danger of becoming obsolete in the desktop arena, the one where you cash the majority of your profits in.
Well, you release your own newfangled browser to compete with the other, portable browsers - for one. People hate change (even techies and software developers); if you have a good running browser in one platform, well, no reason to switch.
Finally, if you have a virtual monolopy on any market, you set the defacto standard (see every comment in here bitching about how they code for Firefox, then go about putting in IE hacks). All you need to do is move a bit forward and everyone has to rush to implement what you've been upto, or face becoming effectively useless and obsolete.
If firefox gains more marketshare, you might start to encounter more and more web devs who refuse to code for the outdated horror that is IE, which only further propels FF. This way MS can still hedge it's bets and keep people locked in. (Re: Why IE still doesn't fully implement W3C standards, and introduces it's own Javascript oddities).
Google netscape, "extend, embrace, extinguish", etc.
I switched away from Gentoo maybe two months ago, to Ubuntu, after two years of Gentoo. I was goddamn tired of updating over night, rebooting in the morning and finding that maybe a half dozen things broke between stable tree updates.
Please, for the rest of us, just fork already. It'll save everyone a lot of headaches. Portage is too good of a system to be allowed to be made irrelevant.
I usually find Raymond Chen to be very entertaining, and the man's prolly several orders of magnitude smarter than me, but frankly, he's full of crap.
It's perfectly reasonable to cram a "don't fuck the mbr kthnx" option somewhere buried a few menus deep, alongside any other three letter acronym option that shitty little setup has as it is.
If I have a "foreign" boot sector, and I done gone told you specifically "don't fuck with it", it's now my problem whether or not the other boot sector can find windows.
Shit son, it's not like the thing doesn't require it's own partition nine out of ten times. -- Someone in charge of coding these things prolly forgot to check whether the mbr already had anything in it before blowing it away and someone higher up figured it either too inconsequential or advantageous (insert favourite anti-trust conspiracy theory here) to bother with.
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And this is any easier, how? You just went from having a central place (root DNS servers) to have a key pointer to an intense sounding bureaucracy. People hate to agree with each other on the internet.
Well, around here you don't get paid when you're on strike -- and that's the first I've ever heard of someone getting any money from a strike that wasn't discounted from their union dues. I highly doubt every union has that sweet of a deal. Strikes are always a last resort - usually everyone leaves worse off than when they began.
Concerning the 'natural' ocurrance of 40 hour work weeks, tell that to every salaried tech person that has had to work a 60 hour week. And don't tell me that game development isn't skilled labour either.
In a similar vein as to what America's founding fathers proclaimed, if we don't stand up and demand our fair share of rights and dues, people will always walk over us. The market is extremely poor at providing solutions to social issues, given how relatively cheap human beings are.
2. Protect "the right of americans to organize", and the "Employee Free Choice Act" -- In other words, they support legalized blackmail as long as you're paying union dues. The "Act" they have drafted would allow employees to force a union on an employer. I wonder if this would make it illegal to fire someone for their participation in a union strike. How about the "free choice" to go get another job if you don't like your current one? After all, Delta Airlines is so grateful for their wonderful union. Remember Eastern Airlines?
You can get fired for participating in a union strike? I seriously hope you're being sarcastic, because that sounds like you folks down south have got some pretty terrible labour laws. I'm not saying all unions are void of corruption, but damn son, they have immense benefits.
Concerning the 'free choice' to get another job, you're highly deluded if you think that's true. More often than not whole regions depend on a few unique employers or the employers within the industry are in cahoots with each other.
If my Canadian and Western European history is fresh, they were in instrumental in gaining many of the rights I enjoy today (I'ma point out the 40 hour work week as an example).
Which is, I think, the only weakness linux suffers: If you want people to use your application, you have to supply 3-6 different methods of installing it OR wait until someone else does so for you. This isn't much of a problem with gentoo (ebuilds are just fancy compile scripts), but I can only begin to imagine how annoying it would be to have to learn 2 different packaging systems (deb and rpm) and then figure out how the popular distros do things differently (vanilla deb vs ubuntu, fedora vs suse or mandriva, etc).
Assuming that there will be important differences in between each Windows version, it's suddenly somewhat more expensive and laborious to make a product that you'll want to market to all windows versions.
I get that often too. (same position as you in the portuguese/english)
I find english better suited for some math discussion (I've never found myself thinking about the concept of random before in pt). Also, one liners and slogans 'feel' more natural.
On the other hand, abstract concepts and descriptions come out nicer in Portuguese, partly because of the runaway tangents the grammar allows us (think "saudade" and anything written by Saramago; you 'feel' emotions in english but 'have' emotions in portguese).
First, you're making a fallacy of irrelevance and perhaps an ad hominem abuse. Does it matter whether or not I make music for the sake of this argument? Does the validity of my opinion on copyright change on whether I write software or books or sheet music? Life's a real bitch, isn't it? Instead of working in a factory, waiting tables or driving a cab some people are just forced to tour around the world, playing their music for people to enjoy. What a horrible existence that must be!
Concerning the Beatles & The Rolling Stones, they toured early on in various cities and were promoted heavily. At any rate, the exhibitionist flair that the Stones have in promoting their own brand, merchandise and concerts today makes up for any pure, uninfluenced art they might've had in the first few years.
I'm not saying salaried artists are the only ones to be able to make money in a copyright-less world, but rather that they'd be a feaseable alternative to a life of heavy touring.
Finally, art has never been free of pecuniary interest. Historically, artists have never really had the economic liberty to be able to engage in their trade without having to think about the contents of their stomachs.
Uhm, I fail to see this intrinsec difference between the these two 'types' of professional musicians -- both seek to put bread on the table through their music, really. They both need to excel at their trade or risk not getting any money for it.
There certainly can be a value to commercial art, but it rarely, if ever, produces real progress.
Again, that's open to debate. Most forms of art throughout the ages have always been commercial in some way -- whether it's say Mucha with his art nouveau that served as menus or anyone sponsored by the Medici family in the 'good ol days'. Did Andy Warhol not further art somehow? To go back to music, what about the Rolling Stones or the Beatles? Benny Goodman? Mozart?
They *all* produced art in order to, eventually, make money.
Anyways, the point is that it's not beyond the realms of feasability to have salaried musicians or musicians who only live off their concert sales, since that's how it used to be prior to recordings.
3. You can get a job with a larger company and be a salaried artist.
Do I really even need to dissect this idea? A salaried artist? I can imagine the societal and artistic value of the creations produced by such a system.
I don't know whether you're being sarcastic or not, but it seems Bach fared alright (they were called court musicians back in the day). Same deal with Mozart's earlier career working for the archbishop of Salzburg and pretty much every single Rennaisance artist.
Art has *never* been untainted by some form of commercial venue.
Think less 'rape it full of trojans and viruses' and more 'my bank's online banking website looks slightly russian today. The URL is the correct one tho -- oh well'
I can't offer you first hand experience, but I'm told (by a dude who runs his own hosting company) that you don't need to reboot on comps with two procs.
Apparently you can do something equivalent to reloading the kernel in one proc while the other one is running, one proc at a time.
No, like, the google pack coulda had free software; how do you maintain it if it doesn't have stuff you can update without having to pay for?
It's out of line with every other google product too.
CTO?
How does that work? FF extensions are just, last I checked, zipped javascript scripts.
You folks plan on making money with this thing? How? You can't sell it cos no one would use it and people would turn off any advertising cos, well, by definition anyone can edit it.
Mind you, I might just be confused about what exactly CTO's or organisations needing CTO's are up to.
Much more importantly than any of the other replies, there weren't any internet services worth using back then. You didn't have decent webmail, map services that respond to your mouse and office suites (think writely which is just DYING to be bought by *someone*, seeing as they have no obvious revenue stream).
Furthermore, it's google. Besides being the gods of the geeks, they've got more bandwidth and more drive space than they can use; all the box would need is a few sticks of ram, maybe a gig or two of flash and the rest could be stored remotely.
That said, I don't think they'll do it -- not because they can't but because they can release those services and have people use them (and thus their ads) WITHOUT a dedicated device that google had to make, sell and (most likely) subsidise.
What do you do, exactly? It'd be interesting to know what to specialise in 3rd and 4th year.
Also, I was under the impression that it's ridiculously hard to make accurate estimates in IT; how do you keep your estimates in check, so your employees don't pull mad overtime hours?
Dude, for fuck sake, the set of all things traded over bittorrent include objects that are both not linux distros and not associated with the *AA's. It could be the stuff of an artist that decides to release her stuff freely, or the thousands of recordings in the public domain or bloody home movies! Free use is free use, don't bash the tech behind it.
Your personal misgivings aside, the point to this story is that BitComet's devs aren't following more or less agreed upon specs. There's a convention to how these things work and they're making a non functional client that messes the way such transfers are done. If you're hosting a private tracker, you want to keep it private for a reason, whatever that may be.
"I mean why would say a linux distro give a fuck who gets their content and at what share ratio? There are probably enough die hard fans to keep the seeds populated without enforcing it with ratios."
Hardly, which is part of the reason people have set up private trackers: there is simply zero incentive to keep hosting the files after they've downloaded. The number of zealots compared to the number of casual users is a few orders of magnitude different -- and bandwidth is expensive. While using a distro for an example is a bit off, you could consider a system for distributing patches or new packages, or anything else done by something unsupported by a company or ulterior motives.
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But maybe not in 10. What was the exact date of the fall of the berlin wall? If you don't live in Germany, at least. I only recall it was around this time of year and in 1989. When did the soviet union collapse? Er, sometime in the early 90s?
Oh, I can answer this one (although I suspect that anyone working on IE7 might have a different, official answer).
There is one strong, obvious reason why MS still needs it's own browser.
With every app slowly moving to the web, and the slow death of shrinkwrap software (i.e. you buy it at staples and it installs), you need one thing to have a usable computer: a web browser.
Problem is, you don't need Windows to run a web browser.
This is the situation that MS was trying to prevent back when they went out of their way to quash Netscape, albeit, it turns out, they were somewhat unsuccesful (thank-you-open-source).
So, what do you do now? You're in danger of becoming obsolete in the desktop arena, the one where you cash the majority of your profits in.
Well, you release your own newfangled browser to compete with the other, portable browsers - for one.
People hate change (even techies and software developers); if you have a good running browser in one platform, well, no reason to switch.
Finally, if you have a virtual monolopy on any market, you set the defacto standard (see every comment in here bitching about how they code for Firefox, then go about putting in IE hacks). All you need to do is move a bit forward and everyone has to rush to implement what you've been upto, or face becoming effectively useless and obsolete.
If firefox gains more marketshare, you might start to encounter more and more web devs who refuse to code for the outdated horror that is IE, which only further propels FF. This way MS can still hedge it's bets and keep people locked in. (Re: Why IE still doesn't fully implement W3C standards, and introduces it's own Javascript oddities).
Google netscape, "extend, embrace, extinguish", etc.
I switched away from Gentoo maybe two months ago, to Ubuntu, after two years of Gentoo.
I was goddamn tired of updating over night, rebooting in the morning and finding that maybe a half dozen things broke between stable tree updates.
Please, for the rest of us, just fork already. It'll save everyone a lot of headaches.
Portage is too good of a system to be allowed to be made irrelevant.
Dude, are you kidding me?
I *totally* would've gotten my Nano in argyle.
That would've rocked!
I usually find Raymond Chen to be very entertaining, and the man's prolly several orders of magnitude smarter than me, but frankly, he's full of crap.
It's perfectly reasonable to cram a "don't fuck the mbr kthnx" option somewhere buried a few menus deep, alongside any other three letter acronym option that shitty little setup has as it is.
If I have a "foreign" boot sector, and I done gone told you specifically "don't fuck with it", it's now my problem whether or not the other boot sector can find windows.
Shit son, it's not like the thing doesn't require it's own partition nine out of ten times.
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Someone in charge of coding these things prolly forgot to check whether the mbr already had anything in it before blowing it away and someone higher up figured it either too inconsequential or advantageous (insert favourite anti-trust conspiracy theory here) to bother with.
And this is any easier, how? You just went from having a central place (root DNS servers) to have a key pointer to an intense sounding bureaucracy. People hate to agree with each other on the internet.
_ idiotic_idea_that/reply sort of idea
I say it's about time we hide the implementation details, alright, but domain names are here to stay.
Just not urls like that. Personally, I'm a fan of http://slashdot.org/1742006_Is_It_Time_For_tel/An
Well, around here you don't get paid when you're on strike -- and that's the first I've ever heard of someone getting any money from a strike that wasn't discounted from their union dues. I highly doubt every union has that sweet of a deal. Strikes are always a last resort - usually everyone leaves worse off than when they began.
Concerning the 'natural' ocurrance of 40 hour work weeks, tell that to every salaried tech person that has had to work a 60 hour week. And don't tell me that game development isn't skilled labour either.
In a similar vein as to what America's founding fathers proclaimed, if we don't stand up and demand our fair share of rights and dues, people will always walk over us. The market is extremely poor at providing solutions to social issues, given how relatively cheap human beings are.
2. Protect "the right of americans to organize", and the "Employee Free Choice Act" -- In other words, they support legalized blackmail as long as you're paying union dues. The "Act" they have drafted would allow employees to force a union on an employer. I wonder if this would make it illegal to fire someone for their participation in a union strike. How about the "free choice" to go get another job if you don't like your current one? After all, Delta Airlines is so grateful for their wonderful union. Remember Eastern Airlines?
You can get fired for participating in a union strike? I seriously hope you're being sarcastic, because that sounds like you folks down south have got some pretty terrible labour laws. I'm not saying all unions are void of corruption, but damn son, they have immense benefits.
Concerning the 'free choice' to get another job, you're highly deluded if you think that's true. More often than not whole regions depend on a few unique employers or the employers within the industry are in cahoots with each other.
If my Canadian and Western European history is fresh, they were in instrumental in gaining many of the rights I enjoy today (I'ma point out the 40 hour work week as an example).
Which is, I think, the only weakness linux suffers:
If you want people to use your application, you have to supply 3-6 different methods of installing it OR wait until someone else does so for you.
This isn't much of a problem with gentoo (ebuilds are just fancy compile scripts), but I can only begin to imagine how annoying it would be to have to learn 2 different packaging systems (deb and rpm) and then figure out how the popular distros do things differently (vanilla deb vs ubuntu, fedora vs suse or mandriva, etc).
Assuming that there will be important differences in between each Windows version, it's suddenly somewhat more expensive and laborious to make a product that you'll want to market to all windows versions.
Support is already enabled. Only problem is that the people behind tor have made it very clear that they DON'T want people to do that.
Think of Tor more for a tool for free speech, not copyright infringement.
Of course, nothing is stopping us from making our own onion network, if anything to enable plausible deniability.
More than enough for most uses.
The future has no barcodes (or keys)!
I get that often too. (same position as you in the portuguese/english)
I find english better suited for some math discussion (I've never found myself thinking about the concept of random before in pt). Also, one liners and slogans 'feel' more natural.
On the other hand, abstract concepts and descriptions come out nicer in Portuguese, partly because of the runaway tangents the grammar allows us (think "saudade" and anything written by Saramago; you 'feel' emotions in english but 'have' emotions in portguese).
I don't know if that makes any sense.
First, you're making a fallacy of irrelevance and perhaps an ad hominem abuse. Does it matter whether or not I make music for the sake of this argument? Does the validity of my opinion on copyright change on whether I write software or books or sheet music?
Life's a real bitch, isn't it? Instead of working in a factory, waiting tables or driving a cab some people are just forced to tour around the world, playing their music for people to enjoy. What a horrible existence that must be!
Concerning the Beatles & The Rolling Stones, they toured early on in various cities and were promoted heavily. At any rate, the exhibitionist flair that the Stones have in promoting their own brand, merchandise and concerts today makes up for any pure, uninfluenced art they might've had in the first few years.
I'm not saying salaried artists are the only ones to be able to make money in a copyright-less world, but rather that they'd be a feaseable alternative to a life of heavy touring.
Finally, art has never been free of pecuniary interest. Historically, artists have never really had the economic liberty to be able to engage in their trade without having to think about the contents of their stomachs.
Uhm, I fail to see this intrinsec difference between the these two 'types' of professional musicians -- both seek to put bread on the table through their music, really. They both need to excel at their trade or risk not getting any money for it.
There certainly can be a value to commercial art, but it rarely, if ever, produces real progress.
Again, that's open to debate. Most forms of art throughout the ages have always been commercial in some way -- whether it's say Mucha with his art nouveau that served as menus or anyone sponsored by the Medici family in the 'good ol days'. Did Andy Warhol not further art somehow? To go back to music, what about the Rolling Stones or the Beatles? Benny Goodman? Mozart?
They *all* produced art in order to, eventually, make money.
Anyways, the point is that it's not beyond the realms of feasability to have salaried musicians or musicians who only live off their concert sales, since that's how it used to be prior to recordings.
3. You can get a job with a larger company and be a salaried artist.
Do I really even need to dissect this idea? A salaried artist? I can imagine the societal and artistic value of the creations produced by such a system.
I don't know whether you're being sarcastic or not, but it seems Bach fared alright (they were called court musicians back in the day). Same deal with Mozart's earlier career working for the archbishop of Salzburg and pretty much every single Rennaisance artist.
Art has *never* been untainted by some form of commercial venue.
Think less 'rape it full of trojans and viruses' and more 'my bank's online banking website looks slightly russian today. The URL is the correct one tho -- oh well'
I can't offer you first hand experience, but I'm told (by a dude who runs his own hosting company) that you don't need to reboot on comps with two procs.
Apparently you can do something equivalent to reloading the kernel in one proc while the other one is running, one proc at a time.
I run linux; perhaps someone else can confirm?
Before it goes to far out of hand, where the slashdot hidden windows expert points out workarounds for his problems.
Dude, that's how we know who to make 'disappear' when the revolution comes!
No, like, the google pack coulda had free software; how do you maintain it if it doesn't have stuff you can update without having to pay for?
It's out of line with every other google product too.
CTO?
How does that work? FF extensions are just, last I checked, zipped javascript scripts.
You folks plan on making money with this thing? How? You can't sell it cos no one would use it and people would turn off any advertising cos, well, by definition anyone can edit it.
Mind you, I might just be confused about what exactly CTO's or organisations needing CTO's are up to.
Much more importantly than any of the other replies, there weren't any internet services worth using back then. You didn't have decent webmail, map services that respond to your mouse and office suites (think writely which is just DYING to be bought by *someone*, seeing as they have no obvious revenue stream).
Furthermore, it's google. Besides being the gods of the geeks, they've got more bandwidth and more drive space than they can use; all the box would need is a few sticks of ram, maybe a gig or two of flash and the rest could be stored remotely.
That said, I don't think they'll do it -- not because they can't but because they can release those services and have people use them (and thus their ads) WITHOUT a dedicated device that google had to make, sell and (most likely) subsidise.
What do you do, exactly? It'd be interesting to know what to specialise in 3rd and 4th year.
Also, I was under the impression that it's ridiculously hard to make accurate estimates in IT; how do you keep your estimates in check, so your employees don't pull mad overtime hours?
Dude, for fuck sake, the set of all things traded over bittorrent include objects that are both not linux distros and not associated with the *AA's. It could be the stuff of an artist that decides to release her stuff freely, or the thousands of recordings in the public domain or bloody home movies! Free use is free use, don't bash the tech behind it.
Your personal misgivings aside, the point to this story is that BitComet's devs aren't following more or less agreed upon specs. There's a convention to how these things work and they're making a non functional client that messes the way such transfers are done. If you're hosting a private tracker, you want to keep it private for a reason, whatever that may be.
"I mean why would say a linux distro give a fuck who gets their content and at what share ratio? There are probably enough die hard fans to keep the seeds populated without enforcing it with ratios."
Hardly, which is part of the reason people have set up private trackers: there is simply zero incentive to keep hosting the files after they've downloaded. The number of zealots compared to the number of casual users is a few orders of magnitude different -- and bandwidth is expensive. While using a distro for an example is a bit off, you could consider a system for distributing patches or new packages, or anything else done by something unsupported by a company or ulterior motives.
I know, but I'm sure their board probably do read everything their CEO says in the press, at all times.
:P.
A statement made to a journalist would inevitably make it back to a board member, sooner or later -- which is what I meant
Which is different how, exactly?