Er, because there are 120 million of those little bubble thingies to read and score? And people want the final results in a few hours, tops? And two elections ago it was necessary to make fewer than 500 mistakes while scoring those 120 million votes (an error rate of 0.0004%)? And, finally, because taxpayers are not willing to pay the salary of a half-million-man army of vote counters, vote-counter supervisors, and vote-counter inspectors and auditors?
What I think you must have meant to say but it got screwed up in a Diebold case apparently was:
Er, because there are 120 million of those little bubble thingies to read and score and people want the final results in a few years and two elections later.
Logically this needed correcting for ignorance or casuistry:
It was necessary to be able to prove fewer than 500 mistakes while scoring those 120 million votes, because taxpayers are not willing to allow an half-million-strong army of volunteers, that could do the job overnight and get it right, or make any number of recounts and get it absolutely correct with no margin of error possible.
Wasn't there a federal law about the voting machine code being accessible to all? Strange behaviour! How come convicted criminals were allowed to tender for that contract? They aren't even allowed to vote are they?
Somehow the term "making a monkey" out the presidency seems very appropriate.
Yes but the latest planes the Ukraine has are totally invisible at all times even in the rain, even when parked up, even the aerodromes are too. And all your nukes belong DRM.
The US government and a substantial part of the population there, are conservatives. And what they would like to see in other countries are democrats in power there, not the Republicans such as Iran has.
Oddly, even the Democrats in the US want to see this too.
Since the majority of Republicans and Democrats in the US want democrats everywhere else, you'd think a democracy anywhere else would be easily accomplished.
The difference in US Republicans and Democrats then, must be that Republicans will try to do something about it. (The difference between Left and Right in the UK if course is that there is no difference here these days.)
All we have to do is convince the foreigners that DRM is a good thing and not only will we be able to sell them crippleware instead of the junk they have at the moment but we can sell them more expensive toys to play the crippleware on.
For being on topic and insightful. Can you get modded up for being on topic?
You can get modded 5 for insightful even if so far off topic it's on another thread on another website.
I wonder how may of us have Bad Karma?
I too have not been given the mark of the chimp. I won't buy DRM ridden goods on principle. How about you?
Now back to the smoke and the flames of war:
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his optical drive, or in his hard disk,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of Linux, which is poured out without mixture into the copy of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the Secret Police, and in the presence of the Chimp:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the Chimp and his broadcast flag, and whosoever receiveth the mark of DRM.
When those infamous Nazi peasants in Finland mistakenly stood against that freedom loving Peoples Army of Emancipation in the debacle that led Hitler to invade Russia, the Finnish people were immediately seen as the enemy of Russia's new allies: Great Britain and the USA.
Ever since then the Baltic states were seen as pro Nazi. Wouldn't you feel that way? Prior to WW II, most of western Europe viewed the rearming of Germany as a buffer to Communism.
Luckily FDR and Churchill knew better and joined our glorious allies in seeing off further threats to world peace by giving Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary and a host of Nazi sympathisers to that great humanitarian: Uncle Joe.
Genocide is nearly always the result of a lesser faction having a greater culture.
Once you remove any threat from an alternative culture you make inroads into what you can accomplish in your reign of terror. It worked for Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and Idi Amin. Even respectable governmental authorities practice it as did Margarat Thatcher.
It was tried in the USA in the early 50's and it is going on now there once more. Obviously to a lesser extent; mass communication has seen to that along with an intrusive press. Anyone can become part of a radical culture there nowadays.
Not so in E. Europe, most of China (where capitalism is conspiring against mass communication vis-a-vis Yahoo. Oh shucks when will they understand irony?) and the saddest place on earth: Africa, where slavery is still the norm.
While the good graces of the United States of America can hold out the friendship of Most Favoured Nation status, it is still the act of a feudal benevolent (malevolent some might say) dictator.
That's because nobody's tried Remote Attestation before. Seriously, read up on it and then see if you have quite the same cavailer attitude.
From the link
Anderson summarizes the case by saying "The fundamental issue is that whoever controls the TC infrastructure will acquire a huge amount of power. Having this single point of control is like making everyone use the same bank, or the same accountant, or the same lawyer. There are many ways in which this power could be abused." [edit]
I would edit part of that to Having this single point of control is like making everyone use the same confessional. A near perfect analogy and the reason the Maffia has remained so powerful so long.
It would seem that the National Socialists who have usurped power in the USA (and Britain come to that) have just about mastered the technique. Except; Adolph was a decorator and Mussolini was a bricklayer.
They haven't got that bit right. Neither state head was anything much before they became world leaders.
To any Swede reading this, dispose Bodström in the autum elections, all other questions are secondary! DS!
Or get that live CD anonymiser that was touted on the board somewhere recently.
What on earth is the fuss about? Any terrorists worth catching, will have a series of systems like the above in place to make all politically incorrect manouvres against them pointless.
Or were the servers they might have been using all in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and Syria?
Correct me if I am wrong but weren't the people actually watching the skies at the time of the attack on the NY trade centre, unable to decide what to do in defence of the state for hours after it was too late to do anything?
They had a decoder that worked better than the Japenese's own and were able to keep the ambassador waiting to declare war knowing that he was about to declare war, while more important things were being discussed.
But you knew that didn't you?
Perhaps it was the ability to eaves-drop on the Atlantic communications system but not on the Pacific system that put such a select system of genocide into place.
But how come they allowed Japanese immigrants when there is a bloody big fence preventing the ingress of "original "americans""? Just how free is the land of the free?
(Please, nobody play the "protecting our jobs" card, because countless US firms have migrated over the border and not a few have transplanted to Asia.)
Which kind of negated the whole point of it all, didn't it. Obviously a case of "not what you know but who you know"?
But it was a good decade for off road vehicles; with the introduction of the Wyllis Jeep and the DWK or whatever it was called. Pity they never thought of free sms and text messages for commies.
Would the dot be slashed if... or a bit of each would give us a slot?
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Which you will still need to pay in order to retain the line you need for your broadband connection.
You can now have another company running the once BT line if you wish. You can get a confusing assortment of packages to go with it, too. For example a company might offer you broadband and VOIP along with your line rental and so and so many hours free phone calls at hours of the day that suit your needs best.
I'm using HomeCall a subdivision of the Caudwell Group that offers such stuff. I only just found out they also own Phones4U so I won't be using them much longer and have not taken them up on their "amazing offers" as they cheated me on my first mobile phone.
But they are still better than BT who couldn't get me online after trying 5 disks unless I used their (peak rate) help desk. Which I concluded was a mandatory clause in all their dealings.
Total crap makes sense in time.
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I often wonder at the remarkable leaps that historians put on record. How for example, would a repeat failure of one crop kill a largely agrarian population when other crops are not also affected?
Did it affect fish, wheat, oats, mutton, beef, turnips, parsnips, carrots etc etc?
Why would the American colonists react to the price of tea when they could get alternatives locally for free? In fact I dare say that if they were interested enough in the product, they could grow camelias (or whatever they used in those days) locally.
I dare say one day there will be historians analysing the Microsoft vs Linux wars or DRM controversy, with perfectly obvious explanations that wouldn't be comprehensible to any of us if we were around to argue the toss.
BT was once the state telephone monopoly and part of the Royal Mail. What it did was once very good indeed. When it was sold off the asset strippers that bought it made inroads into its services that it has never recovered from.
Their internet service was once the most deplorable I have ever come across. Not having a BT line anymore, nor having come close enough to touch them with a 10 foot pole since, I can't say what it is like at the moment.
Having said that, I find it hard to believe a British supermarket provides an outstanding internet service.
I'll still be using my shiny new Maxxum 5D (picking it up Saturday) until it finally dies and Sony decides to not support it anymore. This will likely be quite a long time, because in my experience almost every SLR I've owned was built to last.
My old Maxxum 7, Maxxum 5, and Maxxum Qt-si are still cranking away after literal[ly] years of abuse (the old Maxxum 7 most of all - it's been beaten to within an inch of its life on my trips to the backcountry throughout the US West, and it still happily comes to life whenever I want it to).
Now we know why every Microsoft operating system ever made has operated the way it has.:~))
From another perspective, China's protecting it's citizen's privacy from Western influences, which in the past has meant such fun things as opium.
The king in charge of that Marxism was of course the high priest of communism and the fucker of countless young women. (IWIHIT.)
Meanwhile back in reality, the model of US consumerism is battling a religious war against Hinduism, whose adherents practice an illegal form of exercising called: Fallun Gong.
Concupiscent in the regime, along with all the other US firms mentioned above is Yahoo, who sold down the Yangtse, a Chinese blogger daft enough to try desperate measures and trust in that western devil's benevolence by revealing his address to the yahoo in charge of arseholes. (Give me rootkits any day.)
But how many of you can work out what to do with it?
Actually, there is a misnomer involved; as the ancient empire got its greatness from war and only learned what was well known to other empires by conquest (very ungeek.)
Seeing as Alexander died in his thirties and his generals spent the remaining generations to Rome fighting each other, it isn't suprising that the Roman empire lasted so much longer....
Never mind about all that crap. I'll tell you what, if you really are a geek, I will give you the answer for the above if you can find out how to ask me for it. Clue: It's Greek to me. But it is more your North African, in reality.
The UK (where this article is about) does not have a fair use doctrine.
I hope you meant that to apply to the topic at the top of the page, alone?
People in the UK will be pretty well pissed off if they buy something that doesn't work the way it should and expect a full refund from the place they bought it.
The article may not have pointed out that things get a little blurred for customers who buy data on digital media. To buy a music recording from Sony for example would mean for the unwashed to accept that it has the plague writ large within.
I suppose it is the hi-tech aspect that loses most fellows on the Clapham Omnibus. One only has to think of (early??) wireless routers or Windows operating systems (TTVD) and Microsoft browsers for example. How many customers appreciate that such like wares are not supposed to work like that?
However if it was a frying pan with a hole in it, or eggs that gave off a distinct aroma of hydrogen sulphide there are any amount of fair trade watchdogs that would hound the rogue trader(s) into oblivion.
Sony has virtually been allowed to set its own penalty for that DRMM. Had it been a company producing kitchen cabinets that fell off the wall or that had shelves falling out, they would have had quite a different reception.
Personally I think they should got to the wall anyway. Feck em! Whatever happened to Harry Carey?
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Er, because there are 120 million of those little bubble thingies to read and score? And people want the final results in a few hours, tops? And two elections ago it was necessary to make fewer than 500 mistakes while scoring those 120 million votes (an error rate of 0.0004%)? And, finally, because taxpayers are not willing to pay the salary of a half-million-man army of vote counters, vote-counter supervisors, and vote-counter inspectors and auditors?
What I think you must have meant to say but it got screwed up in a Diebold case apparently was:
Er, because there are 120 million of those little bubble thingies to read and score and people want the final results in a few years and two elections later.
Logically this needed correcting for ignorance or casuistry:
It was necessary to be able to prove fewer than 500 mistakes while scoring those 120 million votes, because taxpayers are not willing to allow an half-million-strong army of volunteers, that could do the job overnight and get it right, or make any number of recounts and get it absolutely correct with no margin of error possible.
Wasn't there a federal law about the voting machine code being accessible to all? Strange behaviour! How come convicted criminals were allowed to tender for that contract? They aren't even allowed to vote are they?
Somehow the term "making a monkey" out the presidency seems very appropriate.
Brilliant. I'm going to emigrate. How easy is it to learn the lingo? Or can I get by on English if I shout loud enough?
Now then how to post this without submitting... Bri-tons, never never nevah! shall be DRM-ed.
Yes but the latest planes the Ukraine has are totally invisible at all times even in the rain, even when parked up, even the aerodromes are too. And all your nukes belong DRM.
You don't have a hope in hell.
The US government and a substantial part of the population there, are conservatives. And what they would like to see in other countries are democrats in power there, not the Republicans such as Iran has.
Oddly, even the Democrats in the US want to see this too.
Since the majority of Republicans and Democrats in the US want democrats everywhere else, you'd think a democracy anywhere else would be easily accomplished.
The difference in US Republicans and Democrats then, must be that Republicans will try to do something about it. (The difference between Left and Right in the UK if course is that there is no difference here these days.)
All we have to do is convince the foreigners that DRM is a good thing and not only will we be able to sell them crippleware instead of the junk they have at the moment but we can sell them more expensive toys to play the crippleware on.
You see, in a democracy, everybody wins.
Nice one.
For being on topic and insightful. Can you get modded up for being on topic?
You can get modded 5 for insightful even if so far off topic it's on another thread on another website.
I wonder how may of us have Bad Karma?
I too have not been given the mark of the chimp. I won't buy DRM ridden goods on principle. How about you?
Now back to the smoke and the flames of war:
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his optical drive, or in his hard disk,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of Linux, which is poured out without mixture into the copy of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the Secret Police, and in the presence of the Chimp:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the Chimp and his broadcast flag, and whosoever receiveth the mark of DRM.
When those infamous Nazi peasants in Finland mistakenly stood against that freedom loving Peoples Army of Emancipation in the debacle that led Hitler to invade Russia, the Finnish people were immediately seen as the enemy of Russia's new allies: Great Britain and the USA.
Ever since then the Baltic states were seen as pro Nazi. Wouldn't you feel that way? Prior to WW II, most of western Europe viewed the rearming of Germany as a buffer to Communism.
Luckily FDR and Churchill knew better and joined our glorious allies in seeing off further threats to world peace by giving Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary and a host of Nazi sympathisers to that great humanitarian: Uncle Joe.
Genocide is nearly always the result of a lesser faction having a greater culture.
Once you remove any threat from an alternative culture you make inroads into what you can accomplish in your reign of terror. It worked for Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and Idi Amin. Even respectable governmental authorities practice it as did Margarat Thatcher.
It was tried in the USA in the early 50's and it is going on now there once more. Obviously to a lesser extent; mass communication has seen to that along with an intrusive press. Anyone can become part of a radical culture there nowadays.
Not so in E. Europe, most of China (where capitalism is conspiring against mass communication vis-a-vis Yahoo. Oh shucks when will they understand irony?) and the saddest place on earth: Africa, where slavery is still the norm.
While the good graces of the United States of America can hold out the friendship of Most Favoured Nation status, it is still the act of a feudal benevolent (malevolent some might say) dictator.
For that is the stuff dictators do.
That's because nobody's tried Remote Attestation before. Seriously, read up on it and then see if you have quite the same cavailer attitude.
From the link
Anderson summarizes the case by saying "The fundamental issue is that whoever controls the TC infrastructure will acquire a huge amount of power. Having this single point of control is like making everyone use the same bank, or the same accountant, or the same lawyer. There are many ways in which this power could be abused." [edit]
I would edit part of that to Having this single point of control is like making everyone use the same confessional. A near perfect analogy and the reason the Maffia has remained so powerful so long.
It would seem that the National Socialists who have usurped power in the USA (and Britain come to that) have just about mastered the technique. Except; Adolph was a decorator and Mussolini was a bricklayer.
They haven't got that bit right. Neither state head was anything much before they became world leaders.
Can you use any of them in a Mac?
Take it easy on the kid, he's probably someone's good little boy. Either that or spking formed ickspearience.
With such a small codicil I wonder if there is a relationship with the penis extension spam. No, that's even beneath my threshold in bad taste.
Good luck to them I say. All they have to do is open up their code. They have mre than enough to live on.
To any Swede reading this, dispose Bodström in the autum elections, all other questions are secondary! DS!
Or get that live CD anonymiser that was touted on the board somewhere recently.
What on earth is the fuss about? Any terrorists worth catching, will have a series of systems like the above in place to make all politically incorrect manouvres against them pointless.
Or were the servers they might have been using all in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and Syria?
Correct me if I am wrong but weren't the people actually watching the skies at the time of the attack on the NY trade centre, unable to decide what to do in defence of the state for hours after it was too late to do anything?
They had a decoder that worked better than the Japenese's own and were able to keep the ambassador waiting to declare war knowing that he was about to declare war, while more important things were being discussed.
But you knew that didn't you?
Perhaps it was the ability to eaves-drop on the Atlantic communications system but not on the Pacific system that put such a select system of genocide into place.
But how come they allowed Japanese immigrants when there is a bloody big fence preventing the ingress of "original "americans""? Just how free is the land of the free?
(Please, nobody play the "protecting our jobs" card, because countless US firms have migrated over the border and not a few have transplanted to Asia.)
Which kind of negated the whole point of it all, didn't it. Obviously a case of "not what you know but who you know"?
But it was a good decade for off road vehicles; with the introduction of the Wyllis Jeep and the DWK or whatever it was called. Pity they never thought of free sms and text messages for commies.
Who is we? And what's it to you what he posts links to?
I wonder how long it takes to realise a site has got to be slash dotted.
Would the dot be slashed if ... or a bit of each would give us a slot?
Which you will still need to pay in order to retain the line you need for your broadband connection.
You can now have another company running the once BT line if you wish. You can get a confusing assortment of packages to go with it, too. For example a company might offer you broadband and VOIP along with your line rental and so and so many hours free phone calls at hours of the day that suit your needs best.
I'm using HomeCall a subdivision of the Caudwell Group that offers such stuff. I only just found out they also own Phones4U so I won't be using them much longer and have not taken them up on their "amazing offers" as they cheated me on my first mobile phone.
But they are still better than BT who couldn't get me online after trying 5 disks unless I used their (peak rate) help desk. Which I concluded was a mandatory clause in all their dealings.
I often wonder at the remarkable leaps that historians put on record. How for example, would a repeat failure of one crop kill a largely agrarian population when other crops are not also affected?
Did it affect fish, wheat, oats, mutton, beef, turnips, parsnips, carrots etc etc?
Why would the American colonists react to the price of tea when they could get alternatives locally for free? In fact I dare say that if they were interested enough in the product, they could grow camelias (or whatever they used in those days) locally.
I dare say one day there will be historians analysing the Microsoft vs Linux wars or DRM controversy, with perfectly obvious explanations that wouldn't be comprehensible to any of us if we were around to argue the toss.
I have never seen a linux box on sale there. http://www.tesco.com/electrical/search.aspx?Ntt=co mputers&VSI=9&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchall&Nty=1&N=0&No=60& Ntk=primary&Ns=P_SORT_Price
BT was once the state telephone monopoly and part of the Royal Mail. What it did was once very good indeed. When it was sold off the asset strippers that bought it made inroads into its services that it has never recovered from.
Their internet service was once the most deplorable I have ever come across. Not having a BT line anymore, nor having come close enough to touch them with a 10 foot pole since, I can't say what it is like at the moment.
Having said that, I find it hard to believe a British supermarket provides an outstanding internet service.
...unlike Microsoft products, Minolta products don't suck, nor are they a monopoly on the photography market.
Quite.
If Windows worked, nobody would buy the next version. I dare say that were they not a monopoly, the tactic would not work.
I'll still be using my shiny new Maxxum 5D (picking it up Saturday) until it finally dies and Sony decides to not support it anymore. This will likely be quite a long time, because in my experience almost every SLR I've owned was built to last.
:~))
My old Maxxum 7, Maxxum 5, and Maxxum Qt-si are still cranking away after literal[ly] years of abuse (the old Maxxum 7 most of all - it's been beaten to within an inch of its life on my trips to the backcountry throughout the US West, and it still happily comes to life whenever I want it to).
Now we know why every Microsoft operating system ever made has operated the way it has.
From another perspective, China's protecting it's citizen's privacy from Western influences, which in the past has meant such fun things as opium.
The king in charge of that Marxism was of course the high priest of communism and the fucker of countless young women. (IWIHIT.)
Meanwhile back in reality, the model of US consumerism is battling a religious war against Hinduism, whose adherents practice an illegal form of exercising called: Fallun Gong.
Concupiscent in the regime, along with all the other US firms mentioned above is Yahoo, who sold down the Yangtse, a Chinese blogger daft enough to try desperate measures and trust in that western devil's benevolence by revealing his address to the yahoo in charge of arseholes. (Give me rootkits any day.)
A young man I was and an old man I am...
8 00.gif from there: http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/comp/cmoll/cmoll.htm l
Or to put it another way: Being clevva isn't doing clevvah.
As for example, being a geek would get you here: http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/comp/cmoll/20040151
But how many of you can work out what to do with it?
Actually, there is a misnomer involved; as the ancient empire got its greatness from war and only learned what was well known to other empires by conquest (very ungeek.)
Seeing as Alexander died in his thirties and his generals spent the remaining generations to Rome fighting each other, it isn't suprising that the Roman empire lasted so much longer....
Never mind about all that crap. I'll tell you what, if you really are a geek, I will give you the answer for the above if you can find out how to ask me for it. Clue:
It's Greek to me. But it is more your North African, in reality.
The UK (where this article is about) does not have a fair use doctrine.
I hope you meant that to apply to the topic at the top of the page, alone?
People in the UK will be pretty well pissed off if they buy something that doesn't work the way it should and expect a full refund from the place they bought it.
The article may not have pointed out that things get a little blurred for customers who buy data on digital media. To buy a music recording from Sony for example would mean for the unwashed to accept that it has the plague writ large within.
I suppose it is the hi-tech aspect that loses most fellows on the Clapham Omnibus. One only has to think of (early??) wireless routers or Windows operating systems (TTVD) and Microsoft browsers for example. How many customers appreciate that such like wares are not supposed to work like that?
However if it was a frying pan with a hole in it, or eggs that gave off a distinct aroma of hydrogen sulphide there are any amount of fair trade watchdogs that would hound the rogue trader(s) into oblivion.
Sony has virtually been allowed to set its own penalty for that DRMM. Had it been a company producing kitchen cabinets that fell off the wall or that had shelves falling out, they would have had quite a different reception.
Personally I think they should got to the wall anyway. Feck em! Whatever happened to Harry Carey?