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First Impressions Count in Website Design

Andy King writes "Web designers have as little as 50 milliseconds to capture the interest of potential customers, according a new report by researchers at Carleton University. Through the halo effect, first impressions can influence subsequent judgments of website credibility and buying decisions."

307 comments

  1. Trupe! by VC · · Score: 5, Funny

    I could tell in less than 50 milliseconds as well....

    1. Re:Trupe! by eurleif · · Score: 2, Funny

      Trupe? Don't you mean tripe?

    2. Re:Trupe! by arivanov · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is a record as far as I know. Dupes - yes. But tripple posting of the same garbage is a bit too much to my liking. Even on a slow going Friday morning.

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    3. Re:Trupe! by falzer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Those who forget Slashdot posts are doomed to repeat them.

    4. Re:Trupe! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, they sure do support their trupes!

    5. Re:Trupe! by Baricom · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sorry, no record this time.

    6. Re:Trupe! by peteremcc · · Score: 0

      bl**dy hell this is getting ridiculous. ----- peter ~ http://peteremcc.wordpress.com/

    7. Re:Trupe! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At this rate, we need to stop calling these things "dupes", and start calling them "reruns".

    8. Re:Trupe! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      did you just fucking censor yourself for saying bloody? what the fuck. dude, come on... totally weak

    9. Re:Trupe! by Hieronymus+Howard · · Score: 1

      Everybody should get busy and resubmit this story. Let's see if the editors will post it four times.

    10. Re:Trupe! by catwh0re · · Score: 0

      Is this like the 3rd time now? If only the editors looked at their own site for 50 milliseconds.

    11. Re:Trupe! by SolitaryMan · · Score: 5, Funny

      Those who forget Slashdot posts are doomed to repeat them.

      Those who remember are doomed to watch them repeating.

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    12. Re:Trupe! by miro+f · · Score: 1

      clearly the moderator who posted this story didn't even go the requisite 50ms on the other two similar articles

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    13. Re:Trupe! by miro+f · · Score: 1

      this comment is itself a trupe, I saw it twice already in the comments for this article

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    14. Re:Trupe! by glass_window · · Score: 0

      What is the record, anyway?

    15. Re:Trupe! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That article is actually one dupe plus four different articles about four different cities implimenting similar technology, all spread out over 5 years. I think it's a little unfair to hold it up as a shining example of the lack of quality of slashdot editing.

    16. Re:Trupe! by repvik · · Score: 1

      He meant "Troupe", as in the Troupe of Monkeys randomly hitting "Accept" on submissions. Sometimes they miss the "Accept"-button, and press the "Accept Several Times"-button. This is how the phenomenon of Slashdot Dupes actually works.

    17. Re:Trupe! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this informative almost 1 1/2 hours after every regular reader to frequent Slashdot has already commented on this very fact?

    18. Re:Trupe! by Da+Web+Guru · · Score: 1

      http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=168794&cid =14070720

      I believe that it might be 6. However, to be fair, it really is more like 4 + 2, but they are all talking about the same thing.

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    19. Re:Trupe! by m50d · · Score: 1

      That was the point...

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    20. Re:Trupe! by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      The question is, which is worse -- the trupe posting, or the 150-uplicate comments pointing it out...

    21. Re:Trupe! by eclectro · · Score: 1

      I can tell that it is time to resubmit my "Morse code is faster than SMS messaging" story.

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    22. Re:Trupe! by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      Are you sure it isn't a tripe?

    23. Re:Trupe! by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 1

      For a record, see my sig.

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    24. Re:Trupe! by OneSeventeen · · Score: 1

      Those who forget Slashdot posts are doomed to repeat them.

      Those who remember are doomed to watch them repeating.

      Those who forget to read Slashdot for a few days get to pick up where they left off.

      Seriously, 50ms? it's like I'm going to have to get rid of my java applet navigation and "this page rocks" 3d animated .gif's or something... how am I supposed to have a professional site without those?

      The cheat isn't going to like this one bit.

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    25. Re:Trupe! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cue the music

      dupe dupe dupe
      dupe of neil
      neil neil neil
      cowboy neil neil neil

      BTW , weren't you in Brokeback Mountain with your friend bob?

    26. Re:Trupe! by Goodgerster · · Score: 1

      Technically it's "triplicate", not "truplicate". So this article is actually a pile of "tripe".

    27. Re:Trupe! by TiredOfCrap · · Score: 1

      I suspect, if any of you had bothered to visit the hyperlink, you might have found some very interesting data that wasn't provided in the previous article. OK, perhaps the editor should have mentioned that, but /. is more than an arena for rants, trolls and flamebait, it provides some of us with information we would never otherwise receive.

  2. Slashdotters have even less time... by atezun · · Score: 1

    to get the first post, which I'm sure I've missed

  3. Ah my god by hal0802 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    It's not a dupe, it's a Hat trick ... Three times this article in frontpage in less than a week ...

    1. Re:Ah my god by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hah. Do what I do, resubmit every dupe you see. Eventually I'll get an article posted that way...

    2. Re:Ah my god by hackstraw · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hah. Do what I do, resubmit every dupe you see. Eventually I'll get an article posted that way...

      Now that does not seem that effective because this is only the 3rd or 4th trupe that I have seen here on slashdot, and I'm more than a regular, closer to obsessive-compulsive.

      Everytime it happens, I post a link like this where I can find the other articles in less than 10 seconds, and I don't even work as an "editor" for slashdot.

      My conclusions have been 1) they do not care 2) they like the negative attention 3) they have not read my posts, nor have they learned how to write a working search engine or use a working one called Google.

      I mean, the attached search is a cut and paste of the headline "First Impressions Count in Website Design" preppended with site:slashdot.org to it, then hit return.

      So, which is it guys?

      Oh, I realized. The 10 seconds is 200x greater than 50ms. That is probably the reason I forgot, the editors have a low attention span like the 3 articles say.

    3. Re:Ah my god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " Hah. Do what I do, resubmit every dupe you see. Eventually I'll get an article posted that way..."

      Done and done. And maybe a third time. Well, basically until they ban me ;^)

    4. Re:Ah my god by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Everytime it happens, I post a link like this where I can find the other articles in less than 10 seconds, and I don't even work as an "editor" for slashdot.

      Even simpler: http://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=50+millisecond s, by typing the words "50 milliseconds" in ot Slashdot's search.

      Or try http://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=radio for another.

    5. Re:Ah my god by Itchy+Rich · · Score: 1

      My conclusions have been 1) they do not care 2) they like the negative attention 3) they have not read my posts, nor have they learned how to write a working search engine or use a working one called Google.

      I think the most realistic explanation is that they, like most of us, aren't 100% attentive at all times. They're human, they've got other shit to do.

      Perhaps what might be handy is something that isn't human, for example a bit of code that checks links and/or keywords for likely duplicates before allowing a story to be sumbitted. Of course, that would take time and hence money. What's this issue worth?

    6. Re:Ah my god by omeg · · Score: 1

      Or 4) They have little time and make human mistakes.

      Yes, I agree that trupes are awful enough to warrant some negative feedback, but let's remain realistic here.

    7. Re:Ah my god by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 1

      It's a trupe. That already means it must be something they like. It's like proven.

    8. Re:Ah my god by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 1

      Ban you for resubmitting articles that have already appeared?

      Christ. They're more likely to let you be the next beatles beatles or Roland Piquemaineause.

    9. Re:Ah my god by pmc · · Score: 1

      I think the most realistic explanation is that they, like most of us, aren't 100% attentive at all times

      Or that they are 100% inattentive all of the time.

      We're not asking for attentitiveness - we aren't asking for anything actually. We do reserve the right to take the mickey out of the apparent complete inability to use a search engine.

    10. Re:Ah my god by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      Now that does not seem that effective because this is only the 3rd or 4th trupe that I have seen here on slashdot...

      They had a tripe posted only a week or two ago. I forget the subject, but it was definitely a threepete.

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    11. Re:Ah my god by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Funny
      I think the most realistic explanation is that they, like most of us, aren't 100% attentive at all times. They're human, they've got other shit to do.

      Like their jobs -- wait

    12. Re:Ah my god by hackstraw · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Or 4) They have little time and make human mistakes.

      Yes, I agree that trupes are awful enough to warrant some negative feedback, but let's remain realistic here.


      Screw up once its a mistake. (forgivable)

      Screw up twice, you forgot or your a dumbass or a moron (forgivable)

      Screw up three times, its a pattern.

      Screw up on the same article 3x on at least 3 different occasions. Its a habit.

      This goes with any simple human behavior. After 3 to 4x dumb stuff, a girl goes from a girlfriend to either an ex or if they are good, someone I just wanna have sex with, but my time is too important to keep repeating and suffering through the same crap over and over again.

      I come to slashdot to comment and others comments. 99% of the work is already done by the readers. Having the other 1% at least rarely error prone is not expecting too much, being that they are paid to do the job, and we directly and/or indirectly pay them.

    13. Re:Ah my god by omeg · · Score: 1

      They didn't screw up three times. They screwed up twice, because the first time the article was posted, there was nothing wrong.

      Not that I have a blistering riposte for your girlfriend analogy...

    14. Re:Ah my god by hackstraw · · Score: 1


      You must be new here if this is the first or second or third or 20th instance of at least a dupe or a trupe.

      I'm not talking about this particular instance, the pattern of the dupes and recently trupes over the years.

    15. Re:Ah my god by Matt+Perry · · Score: 1
      Or 4) They have little time and make human mistakes.
      That's no excuse. 24 stories were posted yesterday. According to http://slashdot.org/users.pl?op=edithome Slashdot has 13 editors: Cliff, CmdrTaco, CowboyNeal, Hemos, HeUnique, jamie, pudge, Roblimo, samzenpus, ScuttleMonkey, timothy, vroom, and Zonk. It doesn't take more than a few minutes to search your own site for a dupe and to follow links in the article to make sure they work (that's been a problem in the past). There's more than enough time available for the editors to make this a better site.

      Besides, CmdrTaco has said in the past that he doesn't care about dupes. He feels that it's part of what makes slashdot have its "charm."

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    16. Re:Ah my god by ichimunki · · Score: 1

      I've never once cared about the dupes on this site and I don't think eliminating them will improve the site one bit. In fact, the first two times they posted this story I either: 1) missed it completely, or 2) wasn't taken in by the headline/summary... but this time I was interested in what people had to say about the topic. Instead I'm wading through a bunch of irrelevant noise about how the article is a triple play.

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    17. Re:Ah my god by Matt+Perry · · Score: 1
      I've never once cared about the dupes on this site and I don't think eliminating them will improve the site one bit.
      Obviously, there are people here who feel differently. I personally think that the Slashdot editors could improve the quality of the site with very little effort on their part.
      Instead I'm wading through a bunch of irrelevant noise about how the article is a triple play.
      You waded pretty deep to get down to my post that you responded to. Hopefully more story-relevant comments were modded up.
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    18. Re:Ah my god by gatzke · · Score: 1


      Keep submitting this trupe, eventually they might take it again.

      What will we call the fourth version of the same article? Quadrupe? Qupe?

    19. Re:Ah my god by FhnuZoag · · Score: 1

      There seriously need to be some automated way of preventing these. E.g. some program to flag up a warning if submissions repeat the same links, link to pages that contain the same links or contain the same words. Or something.

    20. Re:Ah my god by ichimunki · · Score: 1

      You waded pretty deep to get down to my post that you responded to.

      Not really. That's about when I stopped wading. I still hadn't seen any comments about the topic at that point and you expressed an opinion that I don't share, so I did want to point out that not all of us think dupes are a big deal.

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    21. Re:Ah my god by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 1

      I like quadrupe, but I think this issue has already came up once. We've had one once about a year ago that hit 4 times.

  4. my first impressions tell me by Saven+Marek · · Score: 5, Funny

    my first impressions tell me this is not just a DUPE but a TRIPE!

    1. Re:my first impressions tell me by paulthomas · · Score: 1

      Not even a tripe. Tripe. Full Stop.

      Even the first time the article hit the front page, my first & lasting impression was that this research amounted to plain common sense.

    2. Re:my first impressions tell me by tehshen · · Score: 1

      Does that mean that the time limit is 150 milliseconds now?

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    3. Re:my first impressions tell me by c0dedude · · Score: 1

      Don't read or eat it, you will vomit and lose much of your food points.

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  5. Triple? by Life700MB · · Score: 3, Funny


    In other news, Slashdot readers needed 50 miliseconds to realize that this is the third time this very same history is posted.


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    1. Re:Triple? by Ardeocalidus · · Score: 1
      Aww, c'mon. Its FirstImpressions^3.

      That means its three times as full of intellectual nutrients as before.

      And .3 times as funny. T_T

    2. Re:Triple? by Fred_A · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Well I don't like them sequels.

      First Impressions was ok, First Impression And The Son Of Frankenstein wasn't too good but something tells me this First Impression Meets King Kong is going to be just terrible.

      And don't get me started about the musical.

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    3. Re:Triple? by Ardeocalidus · · Score: 1
      Hey, hey, hey!

      Just wait until the musical is turned into movie starring a gay straight man, a straight man who might as well be gay, and a former SNL alumn.

      Then we're talking!

    4. Re:Triple? by john83 · · Score: 0

      Trupe, tripe, triple? At least the Slashdotters don't repeat themselves. Could the editors do the decent thing and delete the topic. Twice in one week is plenty.

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    5. Re:Triple? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 0

      If I were Taco, I'd post dupes just to get people bitching about them. I'd sit there with a big evil grin on my face watching the ad counter soar.

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    6. Re:Triple? by ericdano · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And people pay for subscriptions to these triple postings........very very sad.

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    7. Re:Triple? by ciroknight · · Score: 1

      Very stupid people considering adblock does everything subscriptions would do, except seeing the story early..

      But then again, if I want to see a story early, I go to Digg.com.

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    8. Re:Triple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well now, if *I* want to see a story early, I browse yesterday's Slashdot stories. I call them pre-dupes.

    9. Re:Triple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See my previous comment on you digg promoters. Here's the thing: We don't care. Go and read digg if you want to. Just don't go on about it. Or buy an ad. If digg is so fucking great, why, instead of reading digg, do you prefer to waste your time posting in a slashdot "tripe"?

    10. Re:Triple? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      But then again, if I want to see a story early, I go to Digg.com.

      If I want to see a story early I go look at Network Mirror.

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    11. Re:Triple? by Gleng · · Score: 1

      Three articles for the price of one. You can't beat that value!

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    12. Re:Triple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL

    13. Re:Triple? by Aranwe+Haldaloke · · Score: 1

      That's nothing. I'm sure the fourth post is already up for subscribers to read in advance.

  6. First Impressions Count... by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... But on slashdot you get to have a second and even a third chance to get it right!

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  7. stop by Romancer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Stop it.

    bad repeat, bad!

    look at what you've done, now go outside. Get.

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  8. what's after dupe ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    trupe ?

  9. But if they don't have broadband... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...you have a whole 50 seconds for them to take the page in as it loads.

    This article has been around so many times I have now thought of something to post against it.

    1. Re:But if they don't have broadband... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I'm on dial-up the time a website takes can make me sick of it before it even gets to its 50 milliseconds. I certainly wouldn't be willing to wait a minute for one any more.

  10. In the blink of an eye... by njen · · Score: 1

    I remembered that I had already read this story: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/1 7/0342224

  11. dear god, make it stop by Hellad · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't complain about dupes, but this is ridiculous. I have to wonder if this is a sick joke. A third time? I don't even pay and I feel like demanding my money back...

    1. Re:dear god, make it stop by Newander · · Score: 1
      can... can you do that?

      I'm rich!

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    2. Re:dear god, make it stop by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      I don't complain about dupes, but this is ridiculous. I have to wonder if this is a sick joke. A third time? I don't even pay and I feel like demanding my money back...

      Try demanding my money back. With any luck, three of us will be able to do it before they notice.

    3. Re:dear god, make it stop by Metteyya · · Score: 1

      Just treat this /. topic as "Web Developer's Daily Reminder", it helps.

      Slashdot - because you can't afford forgetting.

    4. Re:dear god, make it stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally, I like this story. The first one was a horrible link to a site with virtually no information. The second one is a dupe. This one is a correction (it's what the first one should have been).

  12. It is a DUPE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:It is a DUPE by dorkygeek · · Score: 1
      No, it's in fact a trupe! Dupe++.

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  13. 150ms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    150ms and counting for this article...

  14. CmdrTaco by m00nun1t · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm expecting CmdrTaco to post a dupe of one of his "letters to slashdot" soon.

    1. Re:CmdrTaco by jb.hl.com · · Score: 1

      When I read those, I instantly think of Dr Breen from Wikipedia.

      "Dear Dr Taco,
      Why do you post so many fucking dupes?
      Yours sincerely,
      A concerned Slashdotter.

      Your question touches on many basic biological urges, such as to smash the faces in of anyone who posts stories more than once..."

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    2. Re:CmdrTaco by iworm · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't you mean his "Letter's too Slishdot"?

    3. Re:CmdrTaco by jb.hl.com · · Score: 1

      Dr Breen from Wikipedia. Yes.

      I meant Half-Life 2. Although a Wikipedia game sounds fun.

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    4. Re:CmdrTaco by rjshields · · Score: 1

      ROFL! Where are my mod points when I need them?

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    5. Re:CmdrTaco by BJH · · Score: 2, Funny

      Easy mistake to make, I guess...

    6. Re:CmdrTaco by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hint 1: CmdrTaco != CowboyNeal
      Hint 2: Get a life.

    7. Re:CmdrTaco by jb.hl.com · · Score: 1

      I do detect a bit of a Breen vibe from Jimmy Wales. Except Breen didn't do porno before starting his reign of terror...

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    8. Re:CmdrTaco by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      To be fair this one at least points to a different web site. But they should really try doing something like this...
      SELECT COUNT(*) FROM SLASHDOT_ARTICLES WHERE ARTICLE_DESC LIKE '%the link name%'
      and
      SELECT ARTICLE_HEADING, ARTICLE_DESC FROM SLASHDOT_ARTICLES WHERE ARTICLE_DESC LIKE '%important key words%'

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    9. Re:CmdrTaco by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 4, Funny

      If it's a dupe, it would be "Letters Two Slashdot"

  15. In related news by Big+Nothing · · Score: 0

    It takes less than 50 milliseconds for Slashdot editors to post the same article twice!

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  16. Are you kidding me? by optilude · · Score: 1

    A triplicate ...

    (too early for jokes about 50 milliseconds, judging dupes, etc. etc.)

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  17. Can't tell. by mondoterrifico · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man i've been reading Slashdot for 4 years now, and I still can't tell its shit.
    :)

    1. Re:Can't tell. by m50d · · Score: 1

      Tell its shit from what?

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    2. Re:Can't tell. by gmby · · Score: 1

      I think you have to take your /. blinders off first. ;)

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    3. Re:Can't tell. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From a hole in your mom.

      Haw haw.

  18. Does cmdr taco even read this site? by eviljav · · Score: 0, Redundant

    How strange, I think I read something similar recently: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/1 7/0342224

    1. Re:Does cmdr taco even read this site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you criticize him without reading who submitted the article, then I think he can submit articles without reading the site.

      Hint:
      CoyboyNeal != CmdrTaco

  19. MetaDupe by kunzy · · Score: 1

    See http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=174167 &cid=14489210
    So here's a dupe of a comment that tells you to dupe comments in dupes.

  20. Less than... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that to realize this is a dupe of a dupe. http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/1 7/0342224

  21. Dupe? No! Three Times! by LadyLucky · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Yikes, is that a record? I knew it was a dupe within 50 milliseconds.

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    1. Re:Dupe? No! Three Times! by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1
      There have been lots of tripes before. But I'm too lazy to look them up right now...

      And there has even been a dupe which had a goatse pic in one of its links (although many people speculate that that was inserted between the first and the second incarnation, i.e. not really there the first time around)

  22. Breaking the cipher, replying on-topic! by Willeh · · Score: 0, Redundant
    I'm gonna break the mold and reply on-topic here:

    You know this idea that people make judgements in the first 50ms before you can really gain a conscious impression of it (though probably something flashes in your subconcious) remind me of one of the entries in the "Dangerous Ideas" article in Edge Magazine in which Nobel Prize winning biochemist Eric R. Kandel argues that much of what we call "free will" is processed unconsciously without awareness:

    http://www.edge.org/q2006/q06_5.html

    Interesting read for sure.

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    1. Re:Breaking the cipher, replying on-topic! by mysticgoat · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Nothing to see here..."

      One of the interesting points made in What the bleep do we know is that human retinas are bombarded with millions of data bits each millisecond, and somehow the brain reduces this to a few tens of thousands of bits in the process of forming a conscious image, which happens pretty quickly. So these questions arise:

      1. What are these processes that filter all this data before we actually experience "reality"?
      2. To what extent do these very fast working processes control what we think we are seeing?

      So in terms of web sites, it seems that even though I might not know how to define it, I can recognize quality before I see it. Yeah, that fits my experience: I'll google for something, open up a dozen of the most promising links in new tabs, then run through most of them at full click speed because I can instantly tell that they aren't the ones I'm looking for.

      Viva tabbed browsing!

    2. Re:Breaking the cipher, replying on-topic! by chengmi · · Score: 2, Funny

      For all we know, this "on-topic" comment is a dupe, too.

    3. Re:Breaking the cipher, replying on-topic! by Deathbane27 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I'm gonna break the mold and reply on-topic here

      Boo! The double-dupe was the best opportunity for a story with nothing but dupe comments, and now you've ruined it!

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    4. Re:Breaking the cipher, replying on-topic! by Ardeocalidus · · Score: 1
      I do it all the time. Sometimes it physically hurts to read through an unattractive webpage. When I had dial-up, many times I would simply click out of the page before it loaded if I knew it looked horrible. Its human nature. As humans, we seek confidence in things that are aethetically pleasing. Pure instinct.

      As for the filters we have, I guess that's to eliminate all the extraneous "noise" that's going on all around us. Again, pure instinct. I wonder, however, if these filters are actually hindering our evolution, since they are unneeded in a non-hunter/gathere society.

    5. Re:Breaking the cipher, replying on-topic! by jIyajbe · · Score: 1

      I must disagree with you here.

      There were NO interesting points made in that movie!

      (Unless, of course, you plan on riding into the next world on a comet.)

      Cheers,

      jIyajbe

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    6. Re:Breaking the cipher, replying on-topic! by Ardeocalidus · · Score: 1

      Kind of like a futuristic Dr. Strangelove?

    7. Re:Breaking the cipher, replying on-topic! by Feanturi · · Score: 1

      I found your post about mold and its many virtues to be highly intriguing, well done!

    8. Re:Breaking the cipher, replying on-topic! by tgv · · Score: 1

      If you want an answer to these questions, I urge you to start studying neuro-biology and cognitive psychology immediately, do a PhD, get a post-doc, start your own research group and come back to inform us what you've found in 25 years.

      The point I'm trying to make, is that there has been done an awful lot of research in this area, and there is still no way to answer your question.

      If you want to start reading: most introductory books to neuro-cognition ("how the brain works") will give you a clue, but beware that many of the findings that are presented in such texts have been simplified and/or are controversial...

    9. Re:Breaking the cipher, replying on-topic! by tgv · · Score: 1

      Boy, this Eric Kandel is really a clever guy. How does he think "free will" comes about? Does he think the rest of the world think it's somewhere outside the brain? Of course not. The signal that is processed is part of the same system that implements the free will. He is confusing "free will" with our concious experience of stimuli. I'll have his Nobel Prize now, thank you.

    10. Re:Breaking the cipher, replying on-topic! by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      Sorry if this is a little off-topic, but can anybody give some comments on the book/movie parent mentioned? It is called "What the bleep do we know" and seems kind of interesting...I'm just wondering how much of it is solid science versus science fluff.

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    11. Re:Breaking the cipher, replying on-topic! by mysticgoat · · Score: 1

      What the bleep... is neither solid science nor science fiction. It is a very entertaining collection of short excerpts from interviews and brief pieces of explanatory material that jumps around between a number of different disciplines, including quantum mechanics, anesthesia, and perceptual psychology. It is presented in an MTV kind of style that guarrantees that the first time viewer will miss many interesting details. It is not an accurate portrayal of the universe nor is it constructed as a piece of fiction. It could be described as a series of mind teasers.

      When followed by a couple of hours in a quiet bar or coffeehouse, it is extremely good entertainment for most people, leading to some very fun and interesting discussions. It would probably suck to see it alone. I've seen it 6 or 8 times with different groups, and each time I've seen it, I've picked up on something new. Each time has led to some very enjoyable post viewing discussions.

      It is an excellent choice for the Geeks' First Date. I can vouch for that.

  23. The solution by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just 50ms to make an impression is very short, so Slashdot just does the logical thing; they're giving it 150ms!

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    1. Re:The solution by frp001 · · Score: 1, Redundant

      The article was posted @8.08, parent comment @8.18 and noone made this joke before! How can it have been modded "redundant"?

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    2. Re:The solution by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      Similar jokes have been made while it was still a dupe.

    3. Re:The solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:The solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I meta-moderate this "redundant" funny.

    5. Re:The solution by Pieroxy · · Score: 1

      After three posts, I got the message and I finally read the article ;)

      It is utterly crap. While flashing a page in front of a user for 50ms is enough for the user to make a decision whether it's crap or not, it's not the same as saying that the user made his decision in 50ms. The user made his decision probably well after a long full second had elapsed. Many things could have happened in the meantime, modifying the user's first impression.

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  24. Which proves.. by William+Robinson · · Score: 1

    the Carleton University web site must be impressive :)

  25. Slashdot repeat its news each 50ms!?? by ikomikara · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    How much it takes to look at previous accepted news in editors mind to see if it has been accepted before?! Where is thier brain cells, are theey all, "We are down here!!!"

  26. A dupe here and a dupe there.... by tekrat · · Score: 1

    A dupe here and a dupe there....
    And pretty soon you're talking *real* repeats!

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    1. Re:A dupe here and a dupe there.... by value_added · · Score: 1

      A dupe here and a dupe there....
      And pretty soon you're talking *real* repeats!


      Think of it as an "Encore Presentation."

      It's like HBO original programming. After a round of repeats, we get a new episode, then a repeat, then a new episode, then the season goes into limbo and the Slashdot DVD goes on sale.

  27. Oh, I get it now! by Centurix · · Score: 0, Troll

    Turns out I just wasn't paying enough attention the first two times this was posted.

    Here, you can test your 50ms reflexes using this page

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    1. Re:Oh, I get it now! by pintomp3 · · Score: 1

      i've been staring at that site for a few minutes now, i don't get it.

    2. Re:Oh, I get it now! by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      You mipselled http://goatse.ca

    3. Re:Oh, I get it now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      oh great

      50ms of that was enough to elicit projectile vomiting ensuring my keyboard has thousands more bacteria than it did last week!

    4. Re:Oh, I get it now! by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      Hehe, so now it's definately more filthy than your toilet seat...

    5. Re:Oh, I get it now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What, are you new here or something?
      Have you not built up an immunity to goatse yet?

      newbie.

  28. Slashdot sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    big time :-(

  29. Web Site Peeves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    50 milliseconds huh?

    Here's my list of things that almost guarantee that I'll leave your site behind, never to look back.

    1 - Music - Your taste in music is not mine. Your music sucks!
    2 - Pages that don't load - It's usually the page that looks like it has exactly what you were searching for too!
    3 - Pages that don't contain the information "as advertised" - you know the ones...you click on a link and it goes to some search page that tries to reset your home page.
    4 - Pages that are more banner ad than web page - Get over it. No one wants to see that much advertising. 5 - Anything that blinks - Thank god the W3C deprecated the blink tag
    6 - Anything that demands I install a plug-in for "the user experience" - espeically those stupid cursors 7 - Anything that spawns pop ads
    8 - Anything that doesn't present easy to read and use navigation (www.thetrueagency.com/true.html is a prime example of this)
    9 - Anything that doesn't have a sufficient amount of contrast between the text and the background.
    10 - Anything that uses more than 5 different fonts on the same page - Its a web site, not a comic book.
    11 - Sites that redirect to another redirect - We get the idea that you move - a lot.
    12 - Anything that uses more than 6 colors on the same page - It looks like a circus barfed on your page.

    1. Re:Web Site Peeves by Oldsmobile · · Score: 1

      "3 - Pages that don't contain the information "as advertised" - you know the ones...you click on a link and it goes to some search page that tries to reset your home page."

      How about using Firefox or Opera?

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    2. Re:Web Site Peeves by lucm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      According to your list, here is what you should do:

      1) Avoid Geocities
      2) Don't browse the internet for free porn or warez

      You will then discover a brand new internet, the one for grownups.

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  30. 50 milliseconds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    50 milliseconds? A twentieth of a second? No human can react to something that passes as quickly as 3 frames on a 60Hz television.

  31. Third Impressions by novus+ordo · · Score: 1

    first impressions can influence subsequent judgments of website credibility

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  32. Third's a charm by Ardeocalidus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Good for us with AD- Wait, what's that? Ah, crap.

  33. Are we the victims of some kind of joke? by loic_2003 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seriously, do you think this is some Andy Kaufman prank where many members of the public are the victim and the only people who find the joke funny are the moderators? It's just getting silly now.

    1. Re:Are we the victims of some kind of joke? by Ardeocalidus · · Score: 1
      Indeed I do. I believe this is the scene where Kaufman reads The Great Gatsby to the college student. They just want to see how much we can take.

      Who knew that the blokes at /. were comedic geniuses?

      Now are they doomed to die of lung cancer?

    2. Re:Are we the victims of some kind of joke? by Stan+Vassilev · · Score: 1

      To get it to the level of an Andy Kaufman they'd have to post at least once/daily for the rest of our lives.

    3. Re:Are we the victims of some kind of joke? by vrioux · · Score: 1

      I've just submitted it again! Wait until they post it a fourth time! ;-)

    4. Re:Are we the victims of some kind of joke? by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      ...members of the public are the victim and the only people who find the joke funny are the moderators

      Today I am a moderator (not in this thread, obviously) and I fail to see the funny.

  34. Bloody hell people by Jon.Laslow · · Score: 1

    How many Slashdotters does it take to point out a dupe? Look above!

    1. Re:Bloody hell people by kunzy · · Score: 1

      Well, in the first dupe you have all the people pointing out it's a dupe. In the second dupe, you have dupes of these comments and also new comments pointing out it's a dupe. It grows exponentially, I'd say.

    2. Re:Bloody hell people by _Shorty-dammit · · Score: 1

      not enough yet, apparently, since we're still getting dupes :P

    3. Re:Bloody hell people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, in the first dupe you have all the people pointing out it's a dupe. In the second dupe, you have dupes of these comments and also new comments pointing out it's a dupe. It grows exponentially, I'd say. I'd say so too.

  35. Re:Dup! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    First dup...I mean, post.

    Wrong on both counts. You're not first (remember: you've only got 50 nanoseconds to get a frist psot in...).

    And it's not a dup either... it's a trup!

  36. jesus. by Ritontor · · Score: 1

    EVERY REPOST IS REPOST REPOST

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    1. Re:jesus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      *cue Total Recall music*

      "For the memory of a lifetime: repost, repost, repost."

  37. If you want karma whore, at least log in! by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1
    Comment is a dupe.

    Well, even though the original was a +5, we can't call it karma-whoring because it's posted anonymously...

  38. Ok guys by tannhaus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This had to be on purpose. They're taking the piss with us. No one is that incompetent. They're having a joke at our expense, so just let it ride

    1. Re:Ok guys by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      No one is that incompetent.

      You need to pay more attention to slashdot...

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    2. Re:Ok guys by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      Please explain "taking the piss" with someone. I'd like to know how that phrase originated, as it seems to make no sense.

  39. it took me 50 milliseconds... by lahna · · Score: 1

    to realize that all of the replies will say 'this is a dupe'.
    To realize this is a dupe took only 8 milliseconds.

  40. Beware of subliminal messages... by TropicalCoder · · Score: 0

    Watch out - you are being manipulated! This tripication was a deliberate ploy to sell products! Did anybody notice, that after opening the article, you had a sudden overwhelming urge to buy products that you had never even considered before?

    If you examine the source code carefully for this web page, you will see that Cowboy Neal is flashing messages at you the whole time you are viewing the article, presenting each one for 50 miliseconds.

    Cowboy Neal was depending on the fact that everyone will read this page to see what everybody has to say about an article being posted for yet a third time in as many days.

  41. Halo Effect by gbobeck · · Score: 1
    ...Through the halo effect...


    Yeah, where is Master Chief when you need him to blast away dupes (and their incremental variants) as well as the frickin reduntant posts announcing the fact that the article is a dupe (or variant)?
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    1. Re:Halo Effect by bmgoau · · Score: 1

      Would that not mean that your post is redundant by definition.

    2. Re:Halo Effect by gbobeck · · Score: 1

      Thats the whole point.

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  42. Well on our way to a quadrupe by Risto · · Score: 1

    I've read Slashdot three times this week. Yes... I don't read Slashdot as much as I used to ... and the same f*&^%$%%^^&&***ing story has been the top story each effin' time Seriously, I have never seen a tripe before! Has this ever happened before? What about a quadrupe? A quadrupe, now that'd be something!

    1. Re:Well on our way to a quadrupe by sugarboy · · Score: 1
      Has this ever happened before?
      Of course it has - this is Slashdot after all... :)
    2. Re:Well on our way to a quadrupe by peterpi · · Score: 1

      I believe the current high score is six: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=168794&cid =14070720

  43. What i tell you three times is true. by smithberry · · Score: 2, Funny
    As Lewis Carroll said in The Hunting of the Snark
    What i tell you three times is true.
    so, must be true then.
    See for example
    http://www.literature.org/authors/carroll-lewis/th e-hunting-of-the-snark/chapter-01.html
    Off topic, but by now no one cares.
    1. Re:What i tell you three times is true. by Itchy+Rich · · Score: 1

      As Lewis Carroll said in The Hunting of the Snark What i tell you three times is true. so, must be true then.

      It's not true.

      It's not true.

      It's not true.

  44. Your post is a dupe, too! by archeopterix · · Score: 1
    How many Slashdotters does it take to point out a dupe? Look above!
    But your post is a dupe of a post criticizing dupe-whiners under the original dupe of the article!
    1. Re:Your post is a dupe, too! by Jon.Laslow · · Score: 1

      And there we catch the irony!

  45. Re:Wow! A triple dupe! by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    triple dupe!

    No, that would be a story that would be posted 6 times!
    Well, not that it won't happen, the week isn't over yet...

  46. Almost a full house... by Thwomp · · Score: 1

    I just need Taco to re-post and it's bingo!

    1. Re:Almost a full house... by danpsmith · · Score: 1

      Almost a full house? Awesome! DO DO DO BAH BAH DOW

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  47. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...what shall we talk about?

    1. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Third impressions, or impressions three times as deep that take nine times as long from all that /. trupe effect?

  48. Once, Twice, Threetimes my lady by WarwickRyan · · Score: 1

    Ahh, timeless classic.

  49. Pathetic by Stanneh · · Score: 1

    damned cowboys you just cant trust them to do the job right.

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  50. 50ms: a trilogy by xiangpeng · · Score: 1, Redundant

    A quick search of the below url...
    http://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=50+millisecond s

    and you get these too:
    http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/1 7/0342224
    http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/1 6/0558244

    Prolly will be reading the same article next week. oh well...

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  51. Thought this was a joke, till I realised... by john-da-luthrun · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...it only takes Slashdot editors 50 milliseconds to forget each story they post.

  52. just a thought by ladyKae · · Score: 0
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  53. ...where time becomes a loop by cyclomedia · · Score: 1

    the second time i saw this as the top story the second story was something DRM related (i think) and i thought, that's odd, slashdot hasnt been updated for a couple of days... now i'm wandering if i'm stuck in some kind of causality loop

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  54. Cheap attempt to get a link from /. by Scorpions4Ever · · Score: 1

    Note that the original article was published in Nature. Appears that the submitter is simply trying to boost his own website up.

    1. Re:Cheap attempt to get a link from /. by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Funny
      Appears that the submitter is simply trying to boost his own website up.

      You think "websiteoptimization.com" might be a commercial site?

  55. This is the third time! New low for /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Editors quit smoking pot and do your jobs!

  56. dupe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    dupe

  57. DOOP! by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Dupey dupe dupey dupey dupe dupe dupe!
    Dupey dupe dupey dupey dupe dupe dupe!
    Dupey dupe dupey dupey dupe dupe dupe!
    dupe dupe dupe dupe dupey dupe!

    *cue horn*

    (geez, can I attempt comedy without the compression filter too?)

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  58. Tripe by tchae · · Score: 1

    I think there is an echo in here... in here... in here....

  59. First impressions.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    count when looking for DUPES as well.

  60. Last impressions by CharlesF · · Score: 1

    Well, my first impressions of this site were what kept me coming back so much, but it's these last impressions that're keeping me from visiting this site again. Seriously, is it that much effort to READ YOUR OWN WEBSITE and make sure you don't post the same things over and over again?

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  61. Three times in a row by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Congrats!

  62. Then... by quenting · · Score: 3, Funny
    Web designers have as little as 50 milliseconds to capture the interest of potential customers
    ...50 ms later, they can re-post and have some extra 50ms, then, 50 ms later, they can re-post and have some extra 50ms. So overall, it should be 150ms.
  63. Web Search Optimisation by BarryNorton · · Score: 1

    "I know this story's already been duped, and you've made submitter links 'nofollow', but here's a submission linking an optimisation site - you know you can't resist those..."

  64. 50 milliseconds huh? by SilverwoodUG · · Score: 0, Redundant

    50 milliseconds huh?

    Here's my list of things that almost guarantee that I'll leave your site behind, never to look back.

    1 - Music - Your taste in music is not mine. Your music sucks!
    2 - Pages that don't load - It's usually the page that looks like it has exactly what you were searching for too!
    3 - Pages that don't contain the information "as advertised" - you know the ones...you click on a link and it goes to some search page that tries to reset your home page.
    4 - Pages that are more banner ad than web page - Get over it. No one wants to see that much advertising.
    5 - Anything that blinks - Thank god the W3C deprecated the blink tag
    6 - Anything that demands I install a plug-in for "the user experience" - espeically those stupid cursors
    7 - Anything that spawns pop ads
    8 - Anything that doesn't present easy to read and use navigation (www.thetrueagency.com/true.html is a prime example of this)
    9 - Anything that doesn't have a sufficient amount of contrast between the text and the background.
    10 - Anything that uses more than 5 different fonts on the same page - Its a web site, not a comic book.
    11 - Sites that redirect to another redirect - We get the idea that you move - a lot.
    12 - Anything that uses more than 6 colors on the same page - It looks like a circus barfed on your page.

    1. Re:50 milliseconds huh? by MadJo · · Score: 1

      hmmm it seems like I've read this comment for the third time. :)

  65. Solution to dupe posts? by alkenstein · · Score: 1

    How about a search facility for key words of an article to spot dupes before they're posted? (could return a list of posts with a "dupe likeliness factor" for each to be scanned by the poster before hitting the button)

  66. Subliminal Messages by Omega+Blue · · Score: 1

    There is certainly no evidence that subminimal messages, which seem to based on something similar, work.

    I like to see the research report first hand myself. Seeing the linked site seems to be /.'ed I have no idea what is quoted there.

  67. Yes, it is a duplicate comment too by jschottm · · Score: 4, Informative

    For all we know, this "on-topic" comment is a dupe, too.

    http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=174167 &cid=14489311

    tehanu said:

    You know this idea that people make judgements in the first 50ms before you can really gain a conscious impression of it (though probably something flashes in your subconcious) remind me of one of the entries in the "Dangerous Ideas" article in Edge (slashdot had it as a story a short while ago) in which Nobel Prize winning biochemist Eric R. Kandel argues that much of what we call "free will" is processed unconsciously without awareness:

    willeh "said":

    You know this idea that people make judgements in the first 50ms before you can really gain a conscious impression of it (though probably something flashes in your subconcious) remind me of one of the entries in the "Dangerous Ideas" article in Edge Magazine in which Nobel Prize winning biochemist Eric R. Kandel argues that much of what we call "free will" is processed unconsciously without awareness:

    To be fair, he/she added, "Interesting read for sure." Insert usual karma whore comments, etc. here.

  68. What to do. by ceeam · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if we all submit this link as a story (several times each?), will /. editors finally get a point?

    1. Re:What to do. by Feanturi · · Score: 1

      if we all submit this link as a story (several times each?), will /. editors finally get a point?

      No, but I think you may have stumbled upon a sure-fire way to get a submission posted.

  69. Trupe! by m50d · · Score: 2, Informative

    I could tell in less than 50 milliseconds as well...

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  70. Who submits the dupes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What amazes me most, is that people keep submitting stories that already have been posted before. It's not that I don't think the editors should read the site more often, but the people that submit stories should know about them too, right?

    i also suspect that "Andy King" person submitted the dupe on purpose to get a higher ranking for his own page. Not that there's anything wrong with linking to your website, but you should at least use an original story, not submit old crap...

    I guess posting something that was on slashdot before gives you a better chance to have it submitted...

  71. Let's Recycle! by mstefanus · · Score: 1, Redundant

    That's Crap (Score:5, Funny)

    by Cobralisk (666114) on Monday January 16, @07:00AM (#14479755)

    This article is obviously rubbish

    [ Reply to This ]

    Re:That's Crap (Score:4, Funny)

    by malsdavis (542216) * on Monday January 16, @08:13AM (#14480000)

    Indeed, it reads just like all those "employers decide whether they will employ you in 50ms" studies.

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    2 replies beneath your current threshold.

    Re:That's Crap (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Crayon Kid (700279) on Monday January 16, @03:33PM (#14481515)

    Now let's talk about how we recognize ad banners in 50ms and shut them out of our vision.

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    1 reply beneath your current threshold.

    2 replies beneath your current threshold.

    Duh (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Lord_Dweomer (648696) on Monday January 16, @07:02AM (#14479762)

    Well, let me be the first to say "Duh, of course we do."

    Having all this information at our fingertips is awe-inspiring, yet completely useless if we can't sort through it properly. That's why companies like Google and datamining companies make so much money.

    As society and people evolve to adapt to the new technology, we build our "defenses" against bad information. We have so much to go through that unless we are able to filter out bad information that quickly, we'll never get anywhere. Not to mention the fact that in this day and age of spyware/adware, plagiarism, virii and big brother everybody needs to lea

  72. This seems to be so important by adinu79 · · Score: 1

    That they want to remind us about it every other day. I suggest a separate section just for this piece of news. We seem to keep reading about it anyway.

  73. shame.. by xushi · · Score: 0

    I say, if it's not a joke, shame on them for being improfessional. If it were a joke, shame on them for being ignorent and not considering the costs the others have to pay (for getting slashdotted, paying bandwidth cost, etc...).

  74. Oh, Come On!... by Xophmeister · · Score: 1

    This is (at least) the second time this has been duped in the last week... I mean, the first time it was funny, with the vague irony of it only taking 50ms for a story to be duped on Slashdot, but now it's just sad...

    OK, we get it already - people make up their minds about websites rather quickly... I assume the same goes for /. Let's hope it doesn't get judged too harshly!

    --

    Christopher Harrison

  75. ...where time becomes a loop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thesecond time i saw this as the top story the second story was something DRM related (i think) and i thought, that's odd, slashdot hasnt been updated for a couple of days... now i'm wandering if i'm stuck in some kind of causality loop

  76. I didn't read the article... by OwlWhacker · · Score: 1

    After 50 milliseconds looking at the page, I made a nearly instantaneous judgement to leave the site.

  77. Warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please do not post any further comments about this dupe. Otherwise CmdrTaco will cry. Moderators, please mod 'Offtopic' any comments about dupes. Otherwise he'll have to post another editorial.

    1. Re:Warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Otherwise he'll have to post another editorial.

      Another editorial? I was expecting him to post the same one again.

  78. *click*...so put your little hand in mine... by PontifexPrimus · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...there ain't no hill or mountain we can't climb...

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    -- Language is a virus from outer space.
    1. Re:*click*...so put your little hand in mine... by Flaming+Babies · · Score: 1

      "Rise and shine campers, and don't forget your booties, 'cause it's COLD out there today!"

      --
      The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously.
  79. Jeeze, stfu! by ilovegeorgebush · · Score: 0

    This is the third posting on this report. We heard you already!! On a more serious note, I find this report to be absolutely correct. Just yesterday a collegue and I were browsing a site looking for captive domains names (after reading the sex.com item). pythagore.com (the French pronounciation and spelling of Pythagoras) has the worst design, look and feel i've seen in a while (the sort of thing that was acceptable pre-2000 and before the boom). With instantly laughed at its design, judging it tacky, ugly and just plain wrong. Now thats DESIGN.

    WTF does this have to do with developers?

    If 50 milliseconds is the rule, the only saviour for a site is its DESIGN, hence this is a WEB designers problem. What has this got to do with PHP, Servlets, JSPs or back-end functionality (i.e. the job of a DEVELOPER). The only functionality you'll see in 50 milliseconds is how the page loads.............

  80. Irony! by giginger · · Score: 1

    Is it just me or is there a hint of irony that the most duplicated thing on /. is people saying "Dupe"? Do we really need everyone shouting it in as many posts as possibl?

  81. didn't cowboyneal tell us s/t about editors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simply unbelievable - three times in one week, the same week that saw not one but two slashdot threads by CowboyNeal explaining the function of editors?

  82. Whoa. Deja vu. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    NEO: Whoa. Deja vu.

    TRINITY: What did you just say?

    NEO: Nothing. Just had a little deja vu.

    TRINITY: What happened? What did you see?

    NEO: A black cat went past us and then I saw another that looked just like it.

    TRINITY: How much like it? Was it the same cat?

    NEO: It might have been. I'm not sure. What is it?

    TRINITY: A deja vu is usually a glitch in the Matrix. It happens when they change something.

  83. Give me a fucking break by jleq · · Score: 0, Redundant

    We've all grown to tolerate the excessive dupes on this site, but 3 times!? I think the Slashdot editors read this site less than I do.

  84. Ric Romero Says: by Potor · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you make a webpage, remember that people will judge them quickly.

    1. Re:Ric Romero Says: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You got Fark in my Slashdot! You got Slashdot in my Fark!

  85. Overheard in Slashdot editors' office by VampireByte · · Score: 5, Funny

    CowboyNeal: Hey, so it's really cold out there today, huh?

    CmdrTaco: So how much do we owe you for the pizza?

    Pizza Delivery Guy: FOR THE THIRD TIME, YES IT'S COLD OUT THERE, AND YOU OWE ME $15.95!!!

    --

    Run and catch, run and catch, the lamb is caught in the blackberry patch.

  86. RAID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Redundant Array of Intentional Duplicates.
    Clever Cowboy, very clever.
    If half of /. is taken out by a nuke then it still survives.

    1. Re:RAID by Baricom · · Score: 1, Funny

      If half of /. is taken out by a nuke then it still survives.

      Isn't that what digg is for?

    2. Re:RAID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      What, being taken out by a nuke? Well we can only hope.

    3. Re:RAID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Listen, if digg is so good, why don't you stay there? Seriously, I am fed up of all the people promoting digg on slashdot recently. Sorry to pick on you, but there is at least a couple per story. Is there a campaign on to increase digg readership by astroturfing on slashdot or something? It's as bad as all the kuro5hin fools a couple of years ago.

    4. Re:RAID by wdd1040 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but Digg's comment system sucks.

      Once they get that figured out, I'm out of here as well.

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      wdd
    5. Re:RAID by Baricom · · Score: 1

      Listen, if digg is so good, why don't you stay there? Seriously, I am fed up of all the people promoting digg on slashdot recently.

      Ouch. I was going for a "Funny" mod. (Not very well, I suppose, since the moderator didn't get it either.)

      If you read my post again, you'll see that I didn't say digg was any good, I wasn't trying to promote digg (and I think the lack of a link lends credence to that), and I'm not an astroturfer (compare the number and quality of my comments on Slashdot and digg).

      The point I was trying to make is that it's not at all uncommon to see a post on Slashdot or digg copied to the other within a matter of hours. This annoys me to a certain extent because it means space that could be devoted to additional articles is spent "duping" the other service.

      Slashdot and digg cater to a different audience, and the sites (particularly the comments) reflect that. I don't really think there's a competition here - people mention digg on Slashdot (and Slashdot on digg) because they read both. No big deal.

      I personally don't like digg all that much. While some of the posts are interesting, many are lame and targeted for a younger crowd, and Slashdot tends to pick up the good ones fairly quickly. Plus, the comment quality from digg, for whatever reason, is abysmal. I do think there are problems with Slashdot's mix of articles (and dupes of articles), but on the whole, I prefer it because the comments that stay above +1 tend to be knowledgable and (dare I say it) educational.

  87. Taco's next post by rsidd · · Score: 0, Redundant
    (to be posted by CmdrTaco on Jan 25)

    On the matter of Slashdot story duplication

    Conspiracy theories again run rampant as users accuse Slashdot Editors of being in cahoots with scam artists. Sounds like just a normal day at the office for me. Except that I've decided to say a few words on Slashdot article duplication process and users who try to abuse it. Read on for my rant.

    It's not hard to figure out what sorts of stories Slashdot likes to duplicate. We have a format, and a subject matter. A persistent user can simply start spamming the bin with a submission about everything he finds on that week's Slashdot that comes even close. If he does it enough, he'll get a few through. Especially if he manages to get a reasonable dupe in at 11pm when there's little else to choose from.

    Part of the Slashdot Editor's job is to make a submission "Presentable". Usually this means moving a few URLs around. I'd guess a good half of story dupes use the word 'here' or 'article' or something equally stupid as their anchor text. I prefer relevant words to be linked. You can look up the link at the previous version of the story. There are other minor things tho, like taking off extra intros like "Hi guys I read Slashdot every day and thought you would like this". We want the Slashdot story to be mostly distilled down to the essentials. Just the key 3-4 sentences from the previous day.

    Now the real problem with this is what it does to the discussion. Last night a nice dupe was posted. And dozens of comments were posted about the dupe. The conspiracy theories. The hostility. Now a lot of this is normal Slashdot Forum Faire. Thats fine. But the problem is that often when this occurs, it swamps out the real discussion. The fact that it's a dupe becomes the story.

    I think this sucks.

    The story is not about Roland or Beatles Beatles or whatever other random user submitted the last version of the story this week. I encourage moderators to use their points to mod these discussions down when they see them. As a moderator, your job ought to be to steer the discussion on-topic. The dupe is almost never the topic!

    The catch-22 kills me. I might have a URL in the bin worth sharing. Something a half a million of you might enjoy. But because it is a dupe, I know that posting it will spawn a giant forum cesspool. I could throw away the article and forget it. Or I could post the story and watch as half of the discussion is simply about the previous version and not the dupe that i wanted to share in the first place.

    Many users routinely email me to complain about such dupes. I'm usually fairly flexible on these matters. If the dupe is blazingly bad, I will often dupe it again and try to get it right. Of course some users like to email me to tell me how much Slashdot sucks, how fat and lazy I am, and how the most terrible thing in the history of Slashdot is the fact that the 4th story down contains the word 'to' when it ought to contain the word 'too'. That missing 'o' is the greatest travesty on-line today! It's hard to take that seriously. Especially when people are rude.

    You are welcome to disagree with me on matters of grammar and spelling. And many of you do, very vocally in the forums. I would hope moderators would see such commentary as offtopic. A dupe of a story about a new motherboard chipset has nothing to do with the proper use of "Its" and "It's".

    The moderation system serves many purposes, but perhaps the most important is to provide a user, 24 hours later viewing at Score 2 or 3 an accurate pulse on the dupe at hand. If the comment is not about the new motherboard chipset, or at least about the old story about the same new motherboard chipset, that comment at least should not be modded 'insightful', and in many cases, ought to be modded offtopic of flamebait.

  88. ...so how do we get them to read what we post? by ashwinds · · Score: 1

    Post it 1000s of times. 3 down 997 to go.

  89. Do the people.... by frinkacheese · · Score: 1

    who post and then put up these dupes ACTUALLY READ /. ?

    or is there a room full of monkeys posting articles in the hope that eventually there will be a day without any dupes?

  90. Might only be the 3rd or 4th trupe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But the number of dupes has certainly spiked the past week. People still recovering from NYE? :)

  91. Trupe? Tripe? by MisterBuggie · · Score: 1

    Could someone explain to me why the americans use trupe or tripe? I fail to see what food has to do with any of this.

    dupe = duplicate (the "e" is added for pronunciation)
    when there's three of them, it becomes a triplicate, so shortened down, that would be a "trip", not a "trupe" or a "tripe".

    1. Re:Trupe? Tripe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Could someone explain to me why the americans use trupe or tripe?
      Because you touch yourself at night.
    2. Re:Trupe? Tripe? by eyepeepackets · · Score: 1

      You are witnessing how new words are created, used and adopted into the English language, so shuddup and pay attention to the lesson. Just for your notes, there are no hard and fast rules for how new words are made in English: Whatever gets used, wins.

      Otherwise, happy Friday to you.

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      Everything in the Universe sucks: It's the law!
  92. good thing by greencork · · Score: 1

    I hope that this forces less bloat and faster loading webpages!

  93. Dupalicious by ichigo+2.0 · · Score: 1

    For all we know, this "on-topic" comment is a dupe, too.

  94. Posters getting old as well by burntash · · Score: 1

    The only thing getting older than this article is the desperate posters trying to get modded funny by posting the same lame joke that it takes them 50ms to realize its a old article.

  95. the halo effect by Oldsmobile · · Score: 1

    "the halo effect"

    Is that the effect where after seeing a website, you'd rather go hammer nails through your penis than look at it?

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    Some say he is made with ascii, others that he is eyeballed daily by millions. All we know is, he is known as the Sig
  96. why are these stories repeated? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hey make some sh1t up or something if you don't have anything to report!

  97. Who can find the most dupes/trupes? by TheNoxx · · Score: 1

    So I was thinking just the other day, how to write a script or somesuch to use google to search for all the stories that have been posted more than once here on the ol slash and dot. Then someone could submit the list as an article, and again, and again....

    Maybe that way the mods would get the point.

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    Ex nihilo nihil fit.
  98. Slashdot editors being duped? by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 1

    Could it be possible, does anyone think, that some mischievous and malicious persons are reading stories on Slashdot, waiting a day or two, and then submitting exactly the same articles back to Slashdot in order to dupe the editors into looking incompetent?

    Surely not.

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    I'm old enough to remember when discussions on Slashdot were well informed.
    1. Re:Slashdot editors being duped? by pikine · · Score: 1

      I think it is more likely that some mischievous and malicious persons cloned our beloved slashdot editors, so they post these articles unbeknoweth to each other doing the same thing.

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      I once had a signature.
  99. The Aristocrats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    They're taking the piss with us.

    They can take the shit too. Hey, since this entire story is basically off-topic, allow me to present to you... The Aristocrats, goatse style:

    A family walks into a talent agency. It's a father, mother, son, daughter and dog. The father says to the talent agent, "We have a really amazing act. You should represent us."

    The agent says, "Sorry, I don't represent family acts. They're a little too cute."

    The mother says, "Sir, if you just see our act, we know you would want to represent us."

    The agent says, "OK. OK. I'll take a look."

    The father immediately rips off his clothes turns his back to the agent, bends over, inserts 4 fingers of each hand into his anus and spreads it to a diameter of 8 inches. Meanwhile the mother and daughter have begun a striptease, one on each side of the father. The son begins a magic routine and starts pulling dildos of various sizes out of his hat and the dog shits on the floor.

    Once the mother and daughter are totally nude they lie down on the floor with their legs spread and in the air and the son starts throwing the dildos at their gaping snatches while the dog vomits up some road kill and the father holds his position.

    Once there is a dildo in each snatch the mother and daughter flip into 69 position on top of the road kill dog barf and start fucking each other with the dildos, the dog sticks its head in the father's gaping anus, and the son strips naked and starts fucking the dog while squeezing the dog's shit like play dough.

    The mother and daughter bring each other to screaming, squirting orgasms as the father lets his rectal walls close on the dogs head, the dog starts kicking and bucking as it suffocates and the son moves around to blow the father while jerking himself off his hands covered in dog shit.

    The mother and daughter cram both dildos in the dogs ass just as it expires and quickly move around to finish off the son and father in their mouths, which they then snowball right back into the men's mouths, which the men then spit on the dead dog.

    All in unison shout "POOR FLUFFY!!! SHE WAS SUCH A GOOD DOG" after which they fall on their faces and prostrate themselves for the agent.

    For the longest time, the agent just sits in silence. Finally, he manages, "That's a hell of an act. What do you call it?"

    And the father says, "The Aristocrats!"

    1. Re:The Aristocrats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't get it.

  100. The irony... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That this story is getting so many chances to make a first impression.

  101. Yes but impressions after that matter too by t_allardyce · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I think people also get the wrong impression when they see the same story on digg a week before. Perhaps we need some kind of site that merges /. and digg and removes dupes?

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  102. This is NOT a Trupe! RTFA - Original Research by Crisses · · Score: 5, Informative

    This isn't a dupe/trupe. The former article was a synopsis. This one actually gives the real research. I was looking for the original research on the earlier article but I didn't want to pay the publishers for it. This article gives the methods, the pages viewed, the results. That's far better than the first two /. postings!

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  103. This isnt a Trupe!! by carterhawk001 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    This story is from a different site *and* it is in the developers section instead of the science section!

  104. Can Anyone Help Me? by Hosiah · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can anyone tell me how long my web page has to capture the interest of a visitor? I've been searching everywhere for this data but cannot seem to track it down.

    1. Re:Can Anyone Help Me? by Gleng · · Score: 4, Funny

      I had a quick search and found a few articles you may be interested in:

      First Impressions Count in Website Design
      Web Users Judge Sites in the Blink of an Eye
      Web Users Judge Sites Instantly

      Hope that helps.

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      "Proudly Posting Without Reading The Article"
  105. It does make me wonder what the editors read by bgfay · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't get how this could happen a third time. Let's hope that this is a joke. Otherwise, it really would make a good topic for the next About Slashdot article. Wow. I've been reading for a long time and haven't seen this happen before. Weird. I think that this is some of the reason why editors and CmdrTaco get so much crap hurled at them. If you give people the ammunition, they're likely to fire it on you sooner or later.

    All that said, it's not the end of the world. It just makes the site look sloppy and haphazard rather than polished. In many ways, it's kind of the stigma that Linux has faced when compared to Windows. Oh well.

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    Yeah, I'm as old as my UID would suggest.
    1. Re:It does make me wonder what the editors read by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1

      I never used to have anything against the editors, but they seem to have gotten more unprofessional over time. Usually it's the opposite.

  106. I just did by theolein · · Score: 1

    I just submitted this link as a a story.

    My text:Today, slashdot really outdid itself. http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/0 1/20/0611209 That story, on the 50 millisecond website appreciation, got posted as a story no less than 3 times. Rob wrote a huge article about how submitters should make decent articles, watch their links, cross their t's, dot their i's (but he doesn't care about spelling because he can't spell himself), and I for one, would dearly love to know what his excuse for duplicate, and in this case, triplicate stories is.

    I think it shows that the slashdot editors neither care what they post, nor do they have any respect for their audience. Pathetic. It also shows they have an attention span of around 50 milliseconds.

    1. Re:I just did by xerxesVII · · Score: 1

      That's good work. I'm really proud of you. We are all really quite proud of you. I hope your link gets accepted. Barring acceptance, I hope that whoever opens up the submission has to sit down and think for a minute about his place in the scheme of things.

      I think from here on out we shoud declare the 20th of January to be Theolein Day in honor of your noble efforts.

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      "We shall grapple with the ineffable, and see if we may not eff it after all." - Douglas Adams
    2. Re:I just did by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      Would I get a day off?

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    3. Re:I just did by xerxesVII · · Score: 1

      Oh sure. We'd all get a day off to sit around and show off our "accomplishments" to one another and then have a big ol' circle jerk to make sure that we all feel congratulated.

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      "We shall grapple with the ineffable, and see if we may not eff it after all." - Douglas Adams
  107. Not only a trupe, but also a slashvertisement... by Flaming+Babies · · Score: 1

    Great job on two counts...

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  108. I just had a deja vu....simultaneously by digitaldc · · Score: 1

    In 49 milliseconds I figured this was Redundant.

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    He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
  109. Re:ID by ncurtain · · Score: 0

    Would the dot be slashed if ... or a bit of each would give us a slot?

  110. Well... by drange_net · · Score: 1

    It wasn't even interesting the first to times!

  111. WE HAVE BEEN TROLLED! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least I think it is a troll... Come on slashdot editors, please tell us you are doing some early trolling before April First!

  112. I'm confused... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this a dupe of the original article, or a dupe of the dupe?

    C'mon, help me out here...

    bkd

  113. Re:The slot by ncurtain · · Score: 0


    I wonder how long it takes to realise a site has got to be slash dotted.

  114. It's a Trupe by dorkygeek · · Score: 1
    Well, in the first dupe you have all the people pointing out it's a dupe. In the second dupe, you have dupes of these comments and also new comments pointing out it's a dupe. It grows exponentially, I'd say. I'd say so too. So do I.

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  115. Web Designers beware. by lynx_user_abroad · · Score: 1
    Just in case you're interested, here's what a Dial-up user (28.8Kbps) sees of the article in the first 50 milliseconds:

    HTTP/1.0 200 OK
    Age: 0
    Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:10:28 GMT
    Content-Type: text/html
    Expires: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:10:28 GMT

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    The thing about things we don't know is we often don't know we don't know them.

  116. 3 times by chord.wav · · Score: 1

    It's been posted 3 times now if my memory doesn't fail. That gives us 100 extra milliseconds!!!

  117. This may be true but ... by NoSalt · · Score: 1

    This may be true for people who are randomly surfing around but I have to believe that if a person is deliberately going to your site, they will stay even if it doesn't have a lot of flash (and not the cruddy Macromedia Flash either).

    I would think that most business websites have a specific target/niche and, unless the site is completely horrible, people will stay no matter what their first impression is. There are several sites that I go to that I am not fond of but I keep going back because the content is what really matters to me.

  118. Re:This is NOT a Trupe! RTFA - Original Research by proggoddess · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wouldn't the original article link normally be posted in a Slashback?

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  119. Oh that is IT! by natefanaro · · Score: 1

    Seriously, I'm changing my hosts file to redirect slashdot to somewhere else.

  120. a dupe with a purpose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i think they're putting the article's assertion to the test by seeing how many people can spot the dupe ion the first 50ms.

  121. Didn't believe this crap story the first two times by gadlaw · · Score: 1

    50 milliseconds? Right. stories like this give science a bad name. People decide quickly whether they like a website or not. Probably true, for some people. Probably untrue for other people. 50 milliseconds isn't hardly enough time for the headers to load up so how can you possibly decide if you like a site or not? What if you like image heavy sites? Takes more time than that to load images up. How does this fact mesh with the ridiculous assertion? It doesn't. What statistical models did this 'study' use. Some are more accurate than others, big arguments about that. How big was the study, - not enough people in the study? How the heck did they measure the reaction time? Probes in the head? Ouija board? Crap science.

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  122. Dupe, Tripe, who cares? by leenks · · Score: 1

    OK, so this was a dupe of a dupe. Big deal.

    Quite frequently I miss articles the first time they are posted for a number of reasons - mainly because at work I don't have internet access to my desk and on the machines I do have internet access, /. is blocked by the wonderful WebSense software (as it's a forum and I might leak stuff).

    I'm also often busy out of work too and dont get around to look at /. or read the archives, so I miss them the first time round.

  123. At 9:09 AM before the first cup of coffee by egghat · · Score: 1

    /me understands ...

    Time to post that one again ;-)

    Bye egghat.

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  124. What a trip! (More correct abbreviation) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously, the abbreviation for a triplicate should be "trip," which is exactly what the editors are on today.

  125. Oh, deja-vu ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It happens when they change somthing in the Matrix, so beware, agents are coming!

  126. Posted Tuesday by ScuttleMonkey by AlpineR · · Score: 1

    Grab your +5 comments here for some instant karma. Well, the editors tripe the articles, we might as well tripe the comments...

  127. Give it a rest. by ncurtain · · Score: 0

    Who is we? And what's it to you what he posts links to?

  128. Dupe, gull, slang, befool, cod, fool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dupe, gull, slang, befool, cod, fool, put on, take in, put one over, put one across -- (fool or hoax; "Slashdot was duped because they trusted everyone"; "You can't fool me!")

    1681, from Fr. dupe "deceived person," from M.Fr. duppe (1426), thieves' jargon, probably from phrase de huppe "of the hoopoe," an extravagantly crested and reputedly stupid bird. Bird name is from L. upupa, imitative of its cry. The verb is from 1704.

  129. Three times the charm... by hkmwbz · · Score: 1
    ...but it's what defines Slashdot! Just like bad spelling and grammar! So they do it on purpose. And this time to prove a point!

    If they stopped posting dupes and trupes/tripes, the site would die!

    :-)

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  130. next headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    slashdot editors takes as little as 50ms to post a article

  131. In related news... by windowpain · · Score: 1

    Research has shown that Slashdot editors now may need to post an article at least three times before it makes a strong enough impression to keep them from posting it again.

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  132. 50 ms to spot a duplicate post on slashdot by guysmilee · · Score: 0

    It takes the average slashdot reader 50 ms to spot a duplicate post on slashdot.

  133. So it's the STORY that's a Dupe? by theJML · · Score: 3, Funny

    We all know the story is a dupe... what's funny is the fact that the story was only up three times, the number of duplicate comments telling everyone that the story is a dupe has to be over 50+ by now.

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    Besides, in Soviet Russia, the Webpage Only Takes 50ms to Judge You!

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  134. Slashdotted by kminchau · · Score: 1

    And it took less than 50 milliseconds after the article was posted for the webserver to get slashdotted.

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  135. Re:This is NOT a Trupe! RTFA - Original Research by nazsco · · Score: 1

    > Wouldn't the original article link normally be posted in a Slashback?

    that would be the tetrupe.

    tsk tsk tsk ...newbies. we need a FAQ here, please.

  136. Again?????? by catdogven · · Score: 1

    You could tell in less than 50 ms that this was a dupe.... Is this story so great to publish it for the 3rd time???

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  137. Re:This is NOT a Trupe! RTFA - Original Research by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 1

    So Slashdot posted two previously worthless submissions and now gave the good link in the third one. That's not much better.

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  138. TACO! by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    Taco,

    I seem to recall you making a post in your "fire-side chat" recently about how you don't like it when the meta-discussion takes over the story thread and drowns out any interesting posts about the story.

    In this case, where people spent the entire discussion joking and talking about how this is a triplicate posting (ok, so technically not a triplicate since it has more actual research data than the first, not that anybody else noticed)....IT IS ENTIRELY PREVENTABLE!

    It's one thing to not be a perfect speller, but posting the same content multiple times within just a couple of days is inexcusable. It is sloppy, and really a slap in the face to subscribers, for whom it diminishes the value of their subscription.

    Please don't take this as a flame...I am just a loyal Slashdot reader who is trying to make the site I love even better. But its these sort of things that are making some of your more insightful posters head over to Digg for their news.

    Sincerely,
    A concerned Slashdotter.

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  139. Re:Trupe? Tripe? Hat trick! by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
    There's already a perfectly good phrase from cricket:
    hat trick, a series of three victories in sports
    It comes from the English game of cricket and refers to a bowler who takes three wickets with three successive balls. It seems to have been the custom in the nineteenth century for such a paragon of the art to be awarded a new hat by his club as a mark of his success. However, it is sometimes also said that the phrase alludes to a distinctly more plebeian reward in which the bowler was permitted to take his hat around the crowd for a collection. Hat trick was first recorded in print in the 1870s, but has since been widened to apply to any sport in which the person competing carries off some feat three times in quick succession, such as scoring three goals in one game of soccer.
  140. So it's not.. by xdjyoshx · · Score: 0

    Whew. I thought i was Bill Murray and it was groundhog day. I guess it would be kinda cool. I would get to know what each of you were going to post. I would tell you your own thoughts before you thought them. I would be hailed by all. Of course to end the cycle i would need to nail someone.. hmm there aren't any GIRLS on /. I'd be stuck here FOREVER!

  141. This has to be a joke. by toofast · · Score: 1

    Come on. It just *has* to be a joke.

  142. Do you digg this article? by red990033 · · Score: 1

    I wonder if this is the editors (failed) attempt at humor at the expense of their rival digg.com. Digg's biggest problem is/are dupes, so much so that you can see dupes on the front page on a semi-regular basis.

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  143. this is so true by josepha48 · · Score: 1
    The minute someone eyes hit the page, you have about that long to wow them. If there is to much flash on the page, you can actually overwhelm people and turn them off.

    FYI: If you are a developer and are developing some web thing and need to impress your boss, you should remember this. You have to wow them the first time. Best thing to do is show them somewhat diverse options, and css is good for that.

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  144. Re:Trupe? Tripe? Hat trick! by MisterBuggie · · Score: 1

    Because posting the same thing three times for you is a feat/victory? Ô.o

  145. 15 minutes of fame? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Slashdot are going to give this paper its 15 minutes of fame, we've got 17,997 more repeats to go.

    April 1 windup?

  146. Re:This is NOT a Trupe! RTFA - Original Research by jZnat · · Score: 1

    Third time's a charm...

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  147. If this were true... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this were true no-one would use myspace

  148. Ten bucks says it gets posted a fourth time. by redwoodtree · · Score: 1

    Any takers?

    1. Re:Ten bucks says it gets posted a fourth time. by Skudd · · Score: 1

      Good lord, I hope not. Where's the new topics?

  149. is this a joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    dupe of a dupe of a dupe ad nauseam. do slashdot has a complex of inferiority? or slashdot secretly always wished to have some oh-my-god-it's-so-friggin'-cool flash features on the index page?

    this "50 millisecond" thing is a tirade in desperate need of a meme à la Soviet Russia jokes!

  150. Slashdotters love dupes! by typical · · Score: 1

    Dupes generate a great deal of enjoyment among Slashdot readers, as they get to happily call "dupe"!

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  151. That is soooo funny by toolateforbedtime · · Score: 1

    I had the privilege of discussing the WWW with Sir Berners-Lee at one of his first public demos at the RARE conference in Zurich in 1991. When I complained that he needed eternal links to make his 'library in the sky' dream come true, he counter-complained about the fact that 'studies have shown that if a hyperlink doesn't resolve in a tenth of a second, users will go elsewhere'. Well, he was wrong in the short term (imagine downloading porn with a 1991 browser, or even the first Mosaic) but seems to have been right in the long term. I salute you, Sir Tim!

  152. Re:Trupe? Tripe? Hat trick! by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
    Because posting the same thing three times for you is a feat/victory?

    I suspect some trolls have done so by deliberately submitting dupes. Eg, the recent Google radio dupe was submitted by a self-proclaimed troll).

  153. Why do you come here? by CyricZ · · Score: 1

    You obviously hate Slashdot with a passion, as shown by this little rant and your previous absurdities about the editors supposedly being out to get you by taking away your mod points.

    So I ask: why do you keep coming back here if you have such a burning hatred for everyone and everything here?

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