I would like to know this too, I know that they do already give some (or at least have given some), but I would be interested in knowing if there was a long term plan for all this
One thing I would also like to know is how much money they make when we do certain things, I do use the little google bar instead of typing URLs now because as far as I am aware thats what makes them money - and it's nice to give back... maybe if we all started using the search instead of URLs then we could make them quite a bit of money
Me and my girlfriend have got into playing nethack quite a bit lately; I'm sure she'll ascend before I do at this rate. We always play (partly because of my insistence) in the ASCII with standard black and white, I think that colour is a little... "showy".
One of my main problems with it is that I can't be bothered to play a really long game, so I often play for about 20mins running right through down to about level 7 or 8, usually past the gnomish mines, and then get killed because I hold down "h" and run into something and die really quickly, or I get blinded and then get killed by "it". Still, I enjoy it and I'm not that bothered if I never ascend
I live in Coventry now and I really hope that this idea does come through, they did mention that the council is considering it here. We have quite a few police about on a night out - which is good - but there is a limit to what they can reasonably do.
As I understand it this system checks your fingerprint against a "banned" list, so if your on the list you don't get in, but if your not on the list you can go in - and they have no idea who you are. If they don't already have your fingerprint on file (for previous drunk and disorderly behaviour) they don't know you from Adam. I really don't see what problem people have from the point of view of privacy, or anything else... I'd certainly be more inclined to go out at night with this system in place
We've seen similar things in the UK, although it won't come in until at least the next time they review the licence fee. Even so here, if you watch any TV program off the internet you have to have a TV licence - they were actually threatening to sue businesses who watched the world cup on their computers.
Here it wouldn't matter if you never access the material which you pay for, you still have to pay for it (so long as it's like TV)...
Do they realise that if I buy a PSP or a PS3 on import I will pay for it? there isn't a magic way of stealing them through this system, they still make money... OH! I remember, they don't on the PS3 - could this be a ploy to stop Sony from losing so much money?
I use Fedora Core as my primary OS, I technically duel boot with XP, although I've not been on windows on it in over 6 weeks (I had a run of 23 days uptime until I booted into a new kernel), I can honestly say that I far prefer it to windows - the most uptime I ever had on windows was 6 days before it ground to a halt. I find fedora faster and more usable, the hardware I have works better with it - I don't play games so I don't care about that.
I have looked at getting a mac and I'm considering it for my next computer purchase, I'm not sure how I'd get on with it though, I am now very used to Fedora and feel like it would be a whole lot to learn again (although at least "ls" works!), I've had little goes with OS X but I'm still unconvinced,
I guess I'll get fedora core 6 on the 24th and see after that if I still feel an OS X shaped hole in my computer life...
Well, it seems expensive now, but I remember when a DVD-R drive was over £500; early adopters expect to pay quite a bit for bleeding edge stuff. In a couple of years these will start to show up in regular computer shops for much more reasonable prices.
Also, $1000 doesn't seem that expensive, spending about $2500 on a computer (which you probably wouldn't need to upgrade for about 5 years) wouldn't be that crazy, would it? It seems cheaper than spending $1000 every year and a half (which might be an average upgrade cycle)
You seem to say that as a joke, but I will answer seriously - you should. Just because you use Linux doesn't mean that you won't get rootkit'd... I'm not sure about Kubuntu, but with fedora it comes as a default with SSH runing and allowing root login - if you don't stop that/var/log/secure quickly gets longer than your arm and sooner or later someone will be in... and the rootkits are never far behind.
You should put something like RKhunter on a clean install ideally so you can keep a check on whats going on. Also chkrootkit is quite good, although I find it a lot harder to read.
Indeed, it isn't secure, and in fact it'll still be part of a bot net (as I understand it), but the point I was making was that this is likely to have happened anyway - these computers are already as "owned" as they are likely to get. So a trade off between being "owned" by someone who wants to steal your bank data, your passwords, and send out spam, or just being "owned" by someone who wants to do Denial of Service attakcs and send spam
If it's a choice i'll take the latter... Of course if there was an option which was open-source and didn't have it's own malware then maybe we'd really be on to a winner.
"Second it install anti-virus software that chews up computing resources with out doing anything useful."
I wouldn't say that. I must say that in principle I am against all software which you can't control and know the nature of, but if you've got infected by this then you may well have got infected by a whole host of other viruses - so this seems like a good thing.
I generally agree with what you say and think a lot of the time definitions are accepted when they are purely negative, although I think that there are quite a few good goes at defining "justice"... especially Nozick's Principle of Justice in Transfer!
I also worry about this quote in the GP post "Post-modernism cannot be defined except by saying what it is not. It is not modern; it is what came after the Enlightenment" I thought that was the romantics, and then you have at least one other discernable epochs after that in philisophical thought
Other than that I would say that we could define words in the Hobbesian sense (which seems close to that Leibniz fellow), but Hobbes argued for exact eternal definitions which could be discussed in a scientific way... but that doesn't seem to helpful in this sense!
And if you want a definition of "Logical Positivism" I can give you one; mental.
it mentions that because it's classed as one of Shakepeare's history plays they're taking the events in it as historical "fact", I hope that they include a note to say that pretty much none of it is "fact", maybe at the start in the form of a warning...
Waring: This play was written as propaganda against Richard III, the true king of England, by a man who was close to Elizabeth I and was too afraid to tell the truth which would cast doubt on the right (or otherwise) of the Tudors to the crown.
Sorry of you don't care, but it's important that people know the facts (or as close as we can get the them anyway)
I'll assume that you were joking then (although I suppose that if anyone would have the ability they might be on here...) but what you mention, if it was possible would really screw MS over.
Imagine a virus which is very hard to get rid of, if not a rootkit which for the average user (read: knows nothing about computer) would as good be impossible to get rid of, then MS's WGA policy would have to stop. Say someone gets this virus and doesn't know how to detect or remove it they'll be ringing MS up and complaining loudly, they won't be able to get security updates, which will make them complain more loudly... MS will either have to let go of WGA (since most of the people it would stop would now be legal coppies) or come up with a complicated system to try and re-introduce the WGA check in a different way... it might be impossibe.
I'm unsure about the water claim, although it is true that you can't tell the difference that doesn't mean that it's not different, the water has been moved all over the shop, but it looks like it hasn't been affected.
Other than that if they make something invisable from visable light then it wouldn't be able to see anything, so a person would be blind or a bot would be virtually impossible to navigate, because you couldn't see it or track it...
I was wondering what TCPA is, it turns out it's "trusted" computing Platform alliance
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing_Pla tform_Alliance ). It certainly is an interesting idea you mention though, and possibly one of their reasons. I looked through the list of the companies which are doing trusted computing on the link above and it scares the hell out of me... if Intel and AMD are doing it it seems almost inevitable that sooner or later we'll be TC'ed...
indeed, they did this over manhunt aswell, but Gamestation - who are one of two biggest game retailers in the UK (I think the biggest) - continued to stock it. I'd image that because of this it'll sell quite well
Well, to some extent the labour government being against this does seem a little strange (maybe not insane though), the Conservative party really dominates the political internet media here, if they required a broadcast licence then the government could impose neutrality on it (like they do with all other broadcast media).
Still, if David Cameron does become PM then we can expect see a lot more protection for this kind of thing, because he himself does it a lot
bad arguement, you make very similar points a lot trying to make them seem new or different. You also ignore fair use, and why we've been getting so annoyed about DRM. If I buy an apple computer that comes with OSX why shouldn't I be able to put that on a different computer is, say, my apple dies? I've paid to use that software on one computer and that's what I'll do... a lot of this other stuff that you mention are just symptoms of this broken system of no fair use - illegal to use software that I've paid for, never.
I really wouldn't be amazed if it wasn't a nuke. They obviously want people to think they have nukes (whether they do or not) because otherwise they wouldn't have said they were going to do it and just passed it off as a light earthquake.
One can easily see from the increase in prestige and offers that Iran has been given for just saying that they want nuclear power that it gives your country an "edge"... I think it has backfired a bit - but we'll have to wait and see. Either way it's understandable why he would want to make it look like he has them. If Kim was thinking about the situation rationally then he would also know why China wouldn't want to put too many conditions on North Korea - which is to say that what China really fear is thousands of immigrants flooding in, after all, the nukes North Korea has will never rival China; and they can't even deliver the bombs anyway! (as far as I know they only have the ability to deliver something like that on a boat or train, really)
Indeed, this isn't even like all Linux users are being forced to move, it's still the default on Fedora and Ubuntu (I think)... Not only that but Debian, at least the last time I heard, wasn't going to create something completely different, they just wanted a different name and logos - I bet most of the code would be the same.
I don't really know what a private university is, but where I go to university (in the UK) I don't think they could even get away with doing this because of the students... I'm a little amazed that they've not been campaigning to change this.
I don't think that this is "normal" though, because as you rightly mention, there is so much to learn on the internet and I think that you achieve this goal best by allowing the free flow of information. Hell, you're screwed if your studying medicine at that uni. You seem to be bothered about this so I would advise you try and get this policy changed, try producing information for the upper "management" levels of people, if you can consult the Vice-chancellor or Chancellor directly (although I know this can be very difficult). Arrange a department meeting where you can raise your concerns or consider inviting your students to protest
One word of waning though, this advice, like everything else in the world, applies only "when others are so to", which is to say don't be the only one who cares and is prepared to do something about it - it'd be a fast way to lose your job
bingo, hit the nail on the head. This is what they are doing now anyway, sony says "hm, why aren't people buying our music... PIRACY! release the RIAA lawyers!"... they never seem to see the "our products are shit, you can't use them how everyone would think you should be able to and we rootkit your computer"
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I agree, the business has to be turning over "more than $50,000", which is quite a lot of money really - they should pay the same as anyone else.
Other than that "Give to Ceaser what is Ceasers", I have one of his Denariuses - but he's been dead for 1800 years, do I really have to give it back?
I would like to know this too, I know that they do already give some (or at least have given some), but I would be interested in knowing if there was a long term plan for all this
One thing I would also like to know is how much money they make when we do certain things, I do use the little google bar instead of typing URLs now because as far as I am aware thats what makes them money - and it's nice to give back... maybe if we all started using the search instead of URLs then we could make them quite a bit of money
I heard it was 84%...
Me and my girlfriend have got into playing nethack quite a bit lately; I'm sure she'll ascend before I do at this rate. We always play (partly because of my insistence) in the ASCII with standard black and white, I think that colour is a little... "showy".
One of my main problems with it is that I can't be bothered to play a really long game, so I often play for about 20mins running right through down to about level 7 or 8, usually past the gnomish mines, and then get killed because I hold down "h" and run into something and die really quickly, or I get blinded and then get killed by "it". Still, I enjoy it and I'm not that bothered if I never ascend
I live in Coventry now and I really hope that this idea does come through, they did mention that the council is considering it here. We have quite a few police about on a night out - which is good - but there is a limit to what they can reasonably do.
As I understand it this system checks your fingerprint against a "banned" list, so if your on the list you don't get in, but if your not on the list you can go in - and they have no idea who you are. If they don't already have your fingerprint on file (for previous drunk and disorderly behaviour) they don't know you from Adam. I really don't see what problem people have from the point of view of privacy, or anything else... I'd certainly be more inclined to go out at night with this system in place
We've seen similar things in the UK, although it won't come in until at least the next time they review the licence fee. Even so here, if you watch any TV program off the internet you have to have a TV licence - they were actually threatening to sue businesses who watched the world cup on their computers.
Here it wouldn't matter if you never access the material which you pay for, you still have to pay for it (so long as it's like TV)...
Do they realise that if I buy a PSP or a PS3 on import I will pay for it? there isn't a magic way of stealing them through this system, they still make money... OH! I remember, they don't on the PS3 - could this be a ploy to stop Sony from losing so much money?
I use Fedora Core as my primary OS, I technically duel boot with XP, although I've not been on windows on it in over 6 weeks (I had a run of 23 days uptime until I booted into a new kernel), I can honestly say that I far prefer it to windows - the most uptime I ever had on windows was 6 days before it ground to a halt. I find fedora faster and more usable, the hardware I have works better with it - I don't play games so I don't care about that.
I have looked at getting a mac and I'm considering it for my next computer purchase, I'm not sure how I'd get on with it though, I am now very used to Fedora and feel like it would be a whole lot to learn again (although at least "ls" works!), I've had little goes with OS X but I'm still unconvinced,
I guess I'll get fedora core 6 on the 24th and see after that if I still feel an OS X shaped hole in my computer life...
Well, it seems expensive now, but I remember when a DVD-R drive was over £500; early adopters expect to pay quite a bit for bleeding edge stuff. In a couple of years these will start to show up in regular computer shops for much more reasonable prices.
Also, $1000 doesn't seem that expensive, spending about $2500 on a computer (which you probably wouldn't need to upgrade for about 5 years) wouldn't be that crazy, would it? It seems cheaper than spending $1000 every year and a half (which might be an average upgrade cycle)
"Maybe I should at least check for rootkits"
/var/log/secure quickly gets longer than your arm and sooner or later someone will be in... and the rootkits are never far behind.
You seem to say that as a joke, but I will answer seriously - you should. Just because you use Linux doesn't mean that you won't get rootkit'd... I'm not sure about Kubuntu, but with fedora it comes as a default with SSH runing and allowing root login - if you don't stop that
You should put something like RKhunter on a clean install ideally so you can keep a check on whats going on. Also chkrootkit is quite good, although I find it a lot harder to read.
Indeed, it isn't secure, and in fact it'll still be part of a bot net (as I understand it), but the point I was making was that this is likely to have happened anyway - these computers are already as "owned" as they are likely to get. So a trade off between being "owned" by someone who wants to steal your bank data, your passwords, and send out spam, or just being "owned" by someone who wants to do Denial of Service attakcs and send spam
If it's a choice i'll take the latter... Of course if there was an option which was open-source and didn't have it's own malware then maybe we'd really be on to a winner.
"Second it install anti-virus software that chews up computing resources with out doing anything useful."
I wouldn't say that. I must say that in principle I am against all software which you can't control and know the nature of, but if you've got infected by this then you may well have got infected by a whole host of other viruses - so this seems like a good thing.
A few general remarks;
I generally agree with what you say and think a lot of the time definitions are accepted when they are purely negative, although I think that there are quite a few good goes at defining "justice"... especially Nozick's Principle of Justice in Transfer!
I also worry about this quote in the GP post "Post-modernism cannot be defined except by saying what it is not. It is not modern; it is what came after the Enlightenment" I thought that was the romantics, and then you have at least one other discernable epochs after that in philisophical thought
Other than that I would say that we could define words in the Hobbesian sense (which seems close to that Leibniz fellow), but Hobbes argued for exact eternal definitions which could be discussed in a scientific way... but that doesn't seem to helpful in this sense!
And if you want a definition of "Logical Positivism" I can give you one; mental.
it mentions that because it's classed as one of Shakepeare's history plays they're taking the events in it as historical "fact", I hope that they include a note to say that pretty much none of it is "fact", maybe at the start in the form of a warning...
Waring: This play was written as propaganda against Richard III, the true king of England, by a man who was close to Elizabeth I and was too afraid to tell the truth which would cast doubt on the right (or otherwise) of the Tudors to the crown.
Sorry of you don't care, but it's important that people know the facts (or as close as we can get the them anyway)
I'll assume that you were joking then (although I suppose that if anyone would have the ability they might be on here...) but what you mention, if it was possible would really screw MS over.
Imagine a virus which is very hard to get rid of, if not a rootkit which for the average user (read: knows nothing about computer) would as good be impossible to get rid of, then MS's WGA policy would have to stop. Say someone gets this virus and doesn't know how to detect or remove it they'll be ringing MS up and complaining loudly, they won't be able to get security updates, which will make them complain more loudly... MS will either have to let go of WGA (since most of the people it would stop would now be legal coppies) or come up with a complicated system to try and re-introduce the WGA check in a different way... it might be impossibe.
I'm unsure about the water claim, although it is true that you can't tell the difference that doesn't mean that it's not different, the water has been moved all over the shop, but it looks like it hasn't been affected.
Other than that if they make something invisable from visable light then it wouldn't be able to see anything, so a person would be blind or a bot would be virtually impossible to navigate, because you couldn't see it or track it...
Still, very interesting idea.
I was wondering what TCPA is, it turns out it's "trusted" computing Platform alliance ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing_Pla tform_Alliance ). It certainly is an interesting idea you mention though, and possibly one of their reasons. I looked through the list of the companies which are doing trusted computing on the link above and it scares the hell out of me... if Intel and AMD are doing it it seems almost inevitable that sooner or later we'll be TC'ed...
indeed, they did this over manhunt aswell, but Gamestation - who are one of two biggest game retailers in the UK (I think the biggest) - continued to stock it. I'd image that because of this it'll sell quite well
Well, to some extent the labour government being against this does seem a little strange (maybe not insane though), the Conservative party really dominates the political internet media here, if they required a broadcast licence then the government could impose neutrality on it (like they do with all other broadcast media).
Still, if David Cameron does become PM then we can expect see a lot more protection for this kind of thing, because he himself does it a lot
bad arguement, you make very similar points a lot trying to make them seem new or different. You also ignore fair use, and why we've been getting so annoyed about DRM. If I buy an apple computer that comes with OSX why shouldn't I be able to put that on a different computer is, say, my apple dies? I've paid to use that software on one computer and that's what I'll do... a lot of this other stuff that you mention are just symptoms of this broken system of no fair use - illegal to use software that I've paid for, never.
I really wouldn't be amazed if it wasn't a nuke. They obviously want people to think they have nukes (whether they do or not) because otherwise they wouldn't have said they were going to do it and just passed it off as a light earthquake.
One can easily see from the increase in prestige and offers that Iran has been given for just saying that they want nuclear power that it gives your country an "edge"... I think it has backfired a bit - but we'll have to wait and see. Either way it's understandable why he would want to make it look like he has them. If Kim was thinking about the situation rationally then he would also know why China wouldn't want to put too many conditions on North Korea - which is to say that what China really fear is thousands of immigrants flooding in, after all, the nukes North Korea has will never rival China; and they can't even deliver the bombs anyway! (as far as I know they only have the ability to deliver something like that on a boat or train, really)
Indeed, this isn't even like all Linux users are being forced to move, it's still the default on Fedora and Ubuntu (I think)... Not only that but Debian, at least the last time I heard, wasn't going to create something completely different, they just wanted a different name and logos - I bet most of the code would be the same.
I don't really know what a private university is, but where I go to university (in the UK) I don't think they could even get away with doing this because of the students... I'm a little amazed that they've not been campaigning to change this.
I don't think that this is "normal" though, because as you rightly mention, there is so much to learn on the internet and I think that you achieve this goal best by allowing the free flow of information. Hell, you're screwed if your studying medicine at that uni. You seem to be bothered about this so I would advise you try and get this policy changed, try producing information for the upper "management" levels of people, if you can consult the Vice-chancellor or Chancellor directly (although I know this can be very difficult). Arrange a department meeting where you can raise your concerns or consider inviting your students to protest
One word of waning though, this advice, like everything else in the world, applies only "when others are so to", which is to say don't be the only one who cares and is prepared to do something about it - it'd be a fast way to lose your job
bingo, hit the nail on the head. This is what they are doing now anyway, sony says "hm, why aren't people buying our music... PIRACY! release the RIAA lawyers!"... they never seem to see the "our products are shit, you can't use them how everyone would think you should be able to and we rootkit your computer"
I'm reminded of the old saying about how government works;
If it moves, tax it
If it keeps moving, regulate it
If it stops moving, subsidise it
They have just figured out that light is actually doing the first of these... expect regulation soon!