heh not to be such a youtube link whore, but when i first read the title of this article, i could only think of the robotic gas station attendants from the game Stubbs the Zombie. sexual undertones, anyone?
from what i remember, there were specs that microsoft wanted negroponte to change to make it compatible with windows xp. and he, in fact, pointed out that he wasn't going to change the flash drive capacity by adding an ssd slot to satisfy profit http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/06/2049201 -makers like microsoft weren't going to really help out the true purpose of the laptop.
suddenly this answer to solving lack of computers in poor countries is going to be compatible with commercial OSs? does it really matter? I'm not a big linux fanboy, hell, if i took the fanboy label, i would prefer the bsd fanboy. with that said, I thought the purpose of this laptop is to be an inexpensive communication device - does it matter what OS it runs on? from what i understand, Mozilla contributed to this project - for free - a browser that can be compiled for most OSs. now microsoft is going to be operating system number 2 on this laptop - charging a small price.
ok , so im ranting now - but i guess my point is that negroponte has forgotten the purpose of this project, if he wants to sell a laptop that has 2 OSs competing against each other (by default?) I can see countries' reasons for war changing from religion to operating system preference. bleh.
I think the problem with decent open source game development (assuming the developers aren't getting bi-weekly checks) is the amount of programmers and artists needed and the amount of time needed to spend on it. FPSs can be the exception if they use an existing 3d engine and layout similar to a game already out. but something like an open source spore or perhaps a 3d rendered RTS like warcraft 3.. slashcraft: penguins versus macboys. or maybe 4 races, penguins, daemons, macboys, and a microsoft borg-like race. You could manufacture air-support, and raid each other with giant mac "finders" or MSN butterflies..
well, enough imagination for now. if you want a good open source game, you need full time developers who can work full time on it. which means you need a financial backing. (Google?)
Google your question. results: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors It's called TwinView. Mainly has to do with changing settings in xorg.conf, though you can run nvidia-xconfig and have that modify your xorg.conf to satisfy your needs. FYI, the fx5200 is fully supported.
Being born in 1985 and not knowing the band, for a second there I thought this was some easter egg in submissive jesus. Or from that talking head that ran after me in those nightmares I used to get. Perhaps not knowing the band is a good thing for me.
The TRON Project is not new; in fact, it was poised to its mark more than a decade ago, in Japan's PC industry, but the U.S. government intervened. In 1989, Japanese electronics giant Matsushita introduced a BTRON PC, a machine that stunned the industry with its advanced capabilities. The BTRON PC had an 80286 Intel (Nasdaq: INTC) The HP ProLiant DL380 G5 Server with Systems Insight Manager (SIM). Latest News about Intel chip running at 8 MHz and a mere 2 MB of memory, but it could display moving video in color in a separate window. Also, it had a dual-booting system that could run both the BTRON OS and MS-DOS.
When the Japanese government announced it would install BTRON PC in Japanese schools, the U.S. government objected. It called the Japanese initiative "actual and potential market intervention" and threatened the move with sanctions. The Japanese, dependent on the U.S. export market, quickly dropped the plan. The U.S. government later withdrew its threat, but the damage had already been done. Nearly all Japanese companies involved in TRON-related activities had canceled their projects."
This is a little different situation, so what will Microsoft do now in order to seize the issue?
reminds me of the ol ITRON from Japan. a paragraph or two from a Linux News article (http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/31855.html):
"mpact Deferred
The TRON Project is not new; in fact, it was poised to its mark more than a decade ago, in Japan's PC industry, but the U.S. government intervened. In 1989, Japanese electronics giant Matsushita introduced a BTRON PC, a machine that stunned the industry with its advanced capabilities. The BTRON PC had an 80286 Intel (Nasdaq: INTC) The HP ProLiant DL380 G5 Server with Systems Insight Manager (SIM). Latest News about Intel chip running at 8 MHz and a mere 2 MB of memory, but it could display moving video in color in a separate window. Also, it had a dual-booting system that could run both the BTRON OS and MS-DOS.
When the Japanese government announced it would install BTRON PC in Japanese schools, the U.S. government objected. It called the Japanese initiative "actual and potential market intervention" and threatened the move with sanctions. The Japanese, dependent on the U.S. export market, quickly dropped the plan. The U.S. government later withdrew its threat, but the damage had already been done. Nearly all Japanese companies involved in TRON-related activities had canceled their projects."
This is a little different situation, so what will Microsoft do now in order to seize the issue?
be sure and re-read all the previous comments. they are talking about gimp version numbers and how it relates to linux version numbers. gimp is open source, so it is quite possible to build it for many gui OSs. i know for a fact that its been compiled for any X.org compatible OS, Mac OS X, and Windows.
A couple that was married for 20 years always made love with the lights off.
Well, after 20 years, the wife felt this was ridiculous. She figured she would break him out of this crazy habit.
So one night, while they were in the middle of a wild, screaming, romantic session, she turned the lights on.
She looked down... and saw that her husband was holding a battery-operated pleasure device -- a vibrator -- softer and larger than a real penis.
She went completely ballistic. "You impotent bastard," she screamed at him, "how could you be lying to me all of these years? You better explain yourself!"
The husband looks her straight in the eyes and says calmly:
"I'll explain the toy... if you explain the kids."
Moral of the story? everyone is happy when you turn the lights off at night.
Please don't take this as an offense at all. from what it sounds like, you seem to be reasonably windows savy, not reasonably computer savy.
an easy to understand article on making linux partitions for the windows user (first one i found from a quick google search) : http://linux.omnipotent.net/article.php?article_id =11859
yes, deleting your ntfs/fat windows partition will destroy the data. you can resize it, using an advanced partition tool like partition magic, acronis partitionexpert, parted, im sure theres a few more out there. yes, you can share partitions between operating systems. you just need to have it supported by the linux kernel, built in or via module.
anyway, i understand what you meant when you said that linux doesnt have a wide user base. it began in the early 90s, its main "commerical" focus is on servers, and its designed by open source developers in favor of open source developers/users. things seem to be changing though; i believe this is one of the targets that the ubuntu distribution is aiming towards.
i think certain distributions of linux are getting closer and closer to the moment where it will "just work" for users. no troubleshooting needed, no driver hacking needed, no debugging needed. this is why i usually don't suggest the basic end user to try any other linux distribution than ubuntu.
ok. rant done. its what, 2:30am where i am? i wont blame you if this whole message doesnt make any sense. for im tired. and out of coffee.
the CD-ROM standard and the surfing competition!!
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The History of the CD-ROM
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One of those odd stories that makes you wonder how any business ever gets done. Back in 1983, Sony and Philips were working on a joint standard for the CD audio disc that was about to take the world by storm. There was one last decision to be made: The sampling rate was going to be either 44.1 kHz or 36 kHz for the audio tracks. They had just determined that the disc needed to
hold 72 minutes of audio, because Beethoven's Ninth Symphony was that long. Philips proposed the 36-kHz standard, because it made a smaller, more compact disc and matched a telecom standard that would make downloading and transferring music easier\x{2014}which I find rather ironic. Sony preferred the 44.1-kHz sampling rate, because it matched the upper reaches of audible sound at 20,000 cycles.
The final decision was made in a meeting in Hawaii, according to Richard Bruno, who was a Philips executive and one of the company's CD project managers. With final arguments running into recreational time, Bjorn Blutgen of Philips and Toshi Doi of Sony took to surfboards still bickering. One of them had the bright idea of challenging the other to a surfing match: Whoever fell off the board first would lose. The Dutchman lost. Hence we have a 44.1-kHz sampling rate on today's CDs. Now you know.
ive never really heard of a hacking class or a kernel hacking instruction. ive gone through the usual computer security system classes in college to get that certificate, but what you go over is securing your system and how holes are taken advantage of. you don't learn how to find new holes.
But since we're speaking of kernel hacking, that necessarily doesnt have to do with security, especially with what you're speaking of. the closest i can think of are book references to device driver coding and such, but they dont really follow the concept of "here is unsupported device A, make it work with this operating system" so i dont define that has hacking; this is just my personal opinion.
the way i learned about kernel hacking and device driver hacking is from taking my current programming knowledge and presenting myself with the challenge, and going forth with it; gaining the needed knowledge. the biggest thing i can think of is when i made my own version of an apple airport driver for mac os x, partially based off of freebsd code, because at the school i was at, apple laptops couldnt use wep on the cisco aironets since they were in wpa migration mode - where both wep and wpa are enabled, but you can only connect through wep via key index 2. msft & linux & freebsd drivers worked fine(you can pick your key index), but apple airport drivers are only designed to use key index 1 (and also wpa, but unfortunately at the time there were compatibility issues with original apple airport cards and cisco aironet waps).
anyways, what im saying is that skills in kernel hacking i think come from experience and determination, not classes or anything. perhaps this may change in the future, but when someone tells you to "hack away at it", it usually refers to not giving up until you succeed, regardless of what you were taught from a book or classes, learning from your mistakes, teaching yourself, etc.
as a compliment to you, it's good to have a positive attitude towards learning about the inner workings of operating systems; not alot of people who earned a computer science BS go that deep, at least from the people i know of. dont give give up:)
Mark_Lucovsky:He's going to ask me to work on Sunday and I'm going to do it, because I'm a pussy, which is why I work at [Microsoft] in the first place.
Bill Buxton:Hey, I work at [Microsoft] and I don't consider myself a pussy.
I'm not saying that because it's microsoft it always will have a backdoor or exploit... it's just if you take a look in history - major microsoft release = 20 holes found. i don't exactly have info on how the voting system would work, especially network wise, but i am curious to find out.
i would trust any software or firmware developer over microsoft any day, especially since it would be counting my vote.
If you can run Apple software on your non Apple hardware, you have no use for Apple.
i can understand your point. Though there are enough hacks out there that I run OS X 10.4.8 on my amd64 machine; in 32bit mode as of now, with full quartz and opengl support (nvidia). is this legal as of now? nope. ever since apple went to the intel platform, it opened a tunnel for the possibility of having a larger range of compatible machines, you just need to write the device drivers. this i suppose can effect how apple sets limitations on hardware compatibility, but my personal opinion is if apple starts selling os x for intel-compatible machines, they would take a big chunk of the os share from microsoft.
however apple is known for their trustworthy hardware. well most of the time heh. from experience its much more trustworthy than any other computer manufacturer ive bought from.
So what am i saying? as of now, apple sets limits on their os because they want you to use their hardware; a major part of their product(s). so dont expect much performance off of a virtual machine running mac os x.
however, the way that people are donating their time to porting drivers and tweaking the os x operating system to machines designed for windows, this will probably change.
For some reason wheb I think of a true MacGyver would have to build his programming interface by scratch, which makes me think of something like toggle switches that feed binary data directly into the memory, like the good ol Altair.
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Please... no one run their robotic arms on anything Microsoft!! You will thank me in the long run!
heh not to be such a youtube link whore, but when i first read the title of this article, i could only think of the robotic gas station attendants from the game Stubbs the Zombie. sexual undertones, anyone?
bah!! looks like i got here too late to make the Balmer reference. oh well. Good job :)
suddenly this answer to solving lack of computers in poor countries is going to be compatible with commercial OSs? does it really matter? I'm not a big linux fanboy, hell, if i took the fanboy label, i would prefer the bsd fanboy. with that said, I thought the purpose of this laptop is to be an inexpensive communication device - does it matter what OS it runs on? from what i understand, Mozilla contributed to this project - for free - a browser that can be compiled for most OSs. now microsoft is going to be operating system number 2 on this laptop - charging a small price.
ok , so im ranting now - but i guess my point is that negroponte has forgotten the purpose of this project, if he wants to sell a laptop that has 2 OSs competing against each other (by default?) I can see countries' reasons for war changing from religion to operating system preference. bleh.
Droppin' loooooooowwdds!!!!! All over yerrrr zerrrooos and oneesssss!!!! Eat it you digital nano-bitch!!!! Yeeeeeahhhhhh...
(A bad Nick Manning reference. Go ahead. Mod me down. I deserve it.)
well, enough imagination for now. if you want a good open source game, you need full time developers who can work full time on it. which means you need a financial backing. (Google?)
Wake Up! *Offers Anonymous Coward a cup of coffee*
Google your question.
results: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
It's called TwinView. Mainly has to do with changing settings in xorg.conf, though you can run nvidia-xconfig and have that modify your xorg.conf to satisfy your needs. FYI, the fx5200 is fully supported.
Being born in 1985 and not knowing the band, for a second there I thought this was some easter egg in submissive jesus. Or from that talking head that ran after me in those nightmares I used to get. Perhaps not knowing the band is a good thing for me.
Proves to you that the bible has answers to everything!
extremely good point. Sex usually isn't forced, unless it is related to some religious belief system you follow. In that case, change your religion.
reminds me of the ol ITRON from Japan. a paragraph or two from a Linux News article (http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/31855.html):
"Impact Deferred
The TRON Project is not new; in fact, it was poised to its mark more than a decade ago, in Japan's PC industry, but the U.S. government intervened. In 1989, Japanese electronics giant Matsushita introduced a BTRON PC, a machine that stunned the industry with its advanced capabilities. The BTRON PC had an 80286 Intel (Nasdaq: INTC) The HP ProLiant DL380 G5 Server with Systems Insight Manager (SIM). Latest News about Intel chip running at 8 MHz and a mere 2 MB of memory, but it could display moving video in color in a separate window. Also, it had a dual-booting system that could run both the BTRON OS and MS-DOS.
When the Japanese government announced it would install BTRON PC in Japanese schools, the U.S. government objected. It called the Japanese initiative "actual and potential market intervention" and threatened the move with sanctions. The Japanese, dependent on the U.S. export market, quickly dropped the plan. The U.S. government later withdrew its threat, but the damage had already been done. Nearly all Japanese companies involved in TRON-related activities had canceled their projects."
This is a little different situation, so what will Microsoft do now in order to seize the issue?
reminds me of the ol ITRON from Japan. a paragraph or two from a Linux News article (http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/31855.html): "mpact Deferred The TRON Project is not new; in fact, it was poised to its mark more than a decade ago, in Japan's PC industry, but the U.S. government intervened. In 1989, Japanese electronics giant Matsushita introduced a BTRON PC, a machine that stunned the industry with its advanced capabilities. The BTRON PC had an 80286 Intel (Nasdaq: INTC) The HP ProLiant DL380 G5 Server with Systems Insight Manager (SIM). Latest News about Intel chip running at 8 MHz and a mere 2 MB of memory, but it could display moving video in color in a separate window. Also, it had a dual-booting system that could run both the BTRON OS and MS-DOS. When the Japanese government announced it would install BTRON PC in Japanese schools, the U.S. government objected. It called the Japanese initiative "actual and potential market intervention" and threatened the move with sanctions. The Japanese, dependent on the U.S. export market, quickly dropped the plan. The U.S. government later withdrew its threat, but the damage had already been done. Nearly all Japanese companies involved in TRON-related activities had canceled their projects." This is a little different situation, so what will Microsoft do now in order to seize the issue?
Melinda Gates is back in business biatch!!! for sho!!!
be sure and re-read all the previous comments. they are talking about gimp version numbers and how it relates to linux version numbers. gimp is open source, so it is quite possible to build it for many gui OSs. i know for a fact that its been compiled for any X.org compatible OS, Mac OS X, and Windows.
A couple that was married for 20 years always made love with the lights off.
Well, after 20 years, the wife felt this was ridiculous. She figured she would break him out of this crazy habit.
So one night, while they were in the middle of a wild, screaming, romantic session, she turned the lights on.
She looked down... and saw that her husband was holding a battery-operated pleasure device -- a vibrator -- softer and larger than a real penis.
She went completely ballistic. "You impotent bastard," she screamed at him, "how could you be lying to me all of these years? You better explain yourself!"
The husband looks her straight in the eyes and says calmly:
"I'll explain the toy... if you explain the kids."
Moral of the story? everyone is happy when you turn the lights off at night.
Please don't take this as an offense at all. from what it sounds like, you seem to be reasonably windows savy, not reasonably computer savy. an easy to understand article on making linux partitions for the windows user (first one i found from a quick google search) : http://linux.omnipotent.net/article.php?article_id =11859
yes, deleting your ntfs/fat windows partition will destroy the data. you can resize it, using an advanced partition tool like partition magic, acronis partitionexpert, parted, im sure theres a few more out there. yes, you can share partitions between operating systems. you just need to have it supported by the linux kernel, built in or via module.
anyway, i understand what you meant when you said that linux doesnt have a wide user base. it began in the early 90s, its main "commerical" focus is on servers, and its designed by open source developers in favor of open source developers/users. things seem to be changing though; i believe this is one of the targets that the ubuntu distribution is aiming towards.
i think certain distributions of linux are getting closer and closer to the moment where it will "just work" for users. no troubleshooting needed, no driver hacking needed, no debugging needed. this is why i usually don't suggest the basic end user to try any other linux distribution than ubuntu.
ok. rant done. its what, 2:30am where i am? i wont blame you if this whole message doesnt make any sense. for im tired. and out of coffee.
i got involved in a little bet about where the first major virus or worm will be on mac os x.
mines was on mDNS. $500 in the bank biatches.
Paris Hilton: back in business.
hold 72 minutes of audio, because Beethoven's Ninth Symphony was that long. Philips proposed the 36-kHz standard, because it made a smaller, more compact disc and matched a telecom standard that would make downloading and transferring music easier\x{2014}which I find rather ironic. Sony preferred the 44.1-kHz sampling rate, because it matched the upper reaches of audible sound at 20,000 cycles.
The final decision was made in a meeting in Hawaii, according to Richard Bruno, who was a Philips executive and one of the company's CD project managers. With final arguments running into recreational time, Bjorn Blutgen of Philips and Toshi Doi of Sony took to surfboards still bickering. One of them had the bright idea of challenging the other to a surfing match: Whoever fell off the board first would lose. The Dutchman lost. Hence we have a 44.1-kHz sampling rate on today's CDs. Now you know.
(Resources: from my own memory when ages ago i read this while taking a shit on the john: From John C. Dvorak's Inside Track, PC Magazine http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1573633,00.as p)
ive never really heard of a hacking class or a kernel hacking instruction. ive gone through the usual computer security system classes in college to get that certificate, but what you go over is securing your system and how holes are taken advantage of. you don't learn how to find new holes.
:)
But since we're speaking of kernel hacking, that necessarily doesnt have to do with security, especially with what you're speaking of. the closest i can think of are book references to device driver coding and such, but they dont really follow the concept of "here is unsupported device A, make it work with this operating system" so i dont define that has hacking; this is just my personal opinion.
the way i learned about kernel hacking and device driver hacking is from taking my current programming knowledge and presenting myself with the challenge, and going forth with it; gaining the needed knowledge. the biggest thing i can think of is when i made my own version of an apple airport driver for mac os x, partially based off of freebsd code, because at the school i was at, apple laptops couldnt use wep on the cisco aironets since they were in wpa migration mode - where both wep and wpa are enabled, but you can only connect through wep via key index 2. msft & linux & freebsd drivers worked fine(you can pick your key index), but apple airport drivers are only designed to use key index 1 (and also wpa, but unfortunately at the time there were compatibility issues with original apple airport cards and cisco aironet waps).
anyways, what im saying is that skills in kernel hacking i think come from experience and determination, not classes or anything. perhaps this may change in the future, but when someone tells you to "hack away at it", it usually refers to not giving up until you succeed, regardless of what you were taught from a book or classes, learning from your mistakes, teaching yourself, etc.
as a compliment to you, it's good to have a positive attitude towards learning about the inner workings of operating systems; not alot of people who earned a computer science BS go that deep, at least from the people i know of. dont give give up
Mark_Lucovsky:He's going to ask me to work on Sunday and I'm going to do it, because I'm a pussy, which is why I work at [Microsoft] in the first place.
Bill Buxton:Hey, I work at [Microsoft] and I don't consider myself a pussy.
Tim Hanrahan:Yes, I am also not a pussy.
I'm not saying that because it's microsoft it always will have a backdoor or exploit... it's just if you take a look in history - major microsoft release = 20 holes found. i don't exactly have info on how the voting system would work, especially network wise, but i am curious to find out.
i would trust any software or firmware developer over microsoft any day, especially since it would be counting my vote.
i can understand your point. Though there are enough hacks out there that I run OS X 10.4.8 on my amd64 machine; in 32bit mode as of now, with full quartz and opengl support (nvidia). is this legal as of now? nope. ever since apple went to the intel platform, it opened a tunnel for the possibility of having a larger range of compatible machines, you just need to write the device drivers. this i suppose can effect how apple sets limitations on hardware compatibility, but my personal opinion is if apple starts selling os x for intel-compatible machines, they would take a big chunk of the os share from microsoft.
however apple is known for their trustworthy hardware. well most of the time heh. from experience its much more trustworthy than any other computer manufacturer ive bought from.
So what am i saying? as of now, apple sets limits on their os because they want you to use their hardware; a major part of their product(s). so dont expect much performance off of a virtual machine running mac os x.
however, the way that people are donating their time to porting drivers and tweaking the os x operating system to machines designed for windows, this will probably change.
For some reason wheb I think of a true MacGyver would have to build his programming interface by scratch, which makes me think of something like toggle switches that feed binary data directly into the memory, like the good ol Altair.
I mean, he's MacGyver. Duh.