If it's such a dead-certain bust, why is he constantly mentioning it in the media ? Surely shome mishtake ? The fact is that he's terrified Apple are going to repeat their success with the iPod, and it shows.
He was specifically asked about the iPhone - I tend to talk about things too when I'm asked about them. Read the rest of the interview - he speaks fairly candidly (if obviously from a biased position) with respect to Office competitors from Google and Open Office.
In any case, I tend to agree with his analysis, which is that the iPhone wont get a significant marketshare. Most people will not shell out $500 for a phone. He does say that Apple may find the iPhone very profitable (i.e. it will be a high-margin item, for sure, like most Apple products), just that they wont get a huge marketshare.
In specific, the reason why the iPhone is going to cost $500 is because it's not being subsidized by cell phone contracts. Jobs is trying to change the rules in that respect.
Except, you seem to be wrong (unless something has changed since then). I'm sorry that Steve Jobs isn't the revolutionary that you want him to be.
You assume the only reason they would do anything "good" is for marketing purposes to make the company look better. Do you know that when I bring up things like Google's Summer of Code program to the non-slashdot crowd, not a soul has heard about it?
You're assuming that the Summer of Code isn't tightly focused marketing to the 'slashdot' crowd. I'm not sure how much it would actually mean to most non-tech people, but it is obviously a big win in the tech/OSS crowd.
They paved the way for giving away tons of free products and services. They've paved the way for respecting privacy and establishing trust with their user base. They've paved the way to catering the geek crowd, and attempting to offer the best services as opposed to the most mass-marketed services.
They are also a quickly growing monopoly - almost a new Microsoft. I, like most people, think that Google has a far better reputation than Microsoft, but that doesn't mean that I am happy with them gaining more and more control over information. Most people don't like the notion that most people use Microsoft OS's, but few people question the fact that most people use Google for search, etc. I certainly give them the benefit of the doubt every day (since I use their services), but it is certainly worth some thought as to what they could do if they so chose.
So, um, don't panic. The community hasn't decided Google is the antichrist; this is all astroturfing
Ahh, because Microsoft protests it means that the concerns aren't well founded. Obviously they have interests in here as well, but that doesn't mean that there isn't cause for alarm.
Selling's about kissing ass and pushing off whatever it is you're selling on whoever has a wallet, no matter what their needs. Ok, at the retail level maybe not so much. But any sales job that pays close to 6 figures, yep.
I'm pretty sure that he meant to learn how to sell yourself so that you can get the job that you deserve. Everyone needs to know how to do that to be successful.
Are you a shill, or just incredibly stupid and/or naive?
Yup, only one point of view possible in the world. If people don't agree with you they are either stupid or are being paid to do so. This is getting pretty common around here. Do the proponents of OSS* need to start every argument with an ad hominem?
*To be fair, others do as well, but "Microsoft shill" seems to be the most prevalent.
The good news is that the really high quality browsers - like OmniWeb - allow you to globally filter out all such crapola, making exceptions on a per-site basis as you feel appropriate, or vice-versa. So you never have to be stuck looking at some menu-infested, roll-over ridden, animated advertising nightmare.
You paid for a browser? What is this, 1996? o_O
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1. Your knowledge isn't very good. That's why it's FUD. Try looking at actual minimum requirements. The video requirements are obviously only for Aero, which is optional.
2. The cheapest PC from Dell comes with 512 MB of RAM. This will run Vista Home Basic without any problems. 1-2 GB is only recommended for systems with Aero enabled.
3. Yes, it is _complete_ FUD to say that - you are pulling all this information out of your ass. If you can buy a *NIX is great, I use it for all my servers, but your posts are full of made up bullshit. Maybe stop regurgitating myths you read on the internet and start thinking for yourself.
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That means if you want to stick to Windows on your new PC, you will ned to invest in Vista.... at a steep increase in hardware, software cost and maintenance cost (driver issues, bug fixes etc)
This is pretty ridiculous. Most computers bought within the last year will run Vista and essentially all new computers can (the cheapest PC from Dell would work fine with Vista). As for drivers, I doubt there will be any problems in 12 months (from what I've heard from people using Vista now, most of them are already resolved).
The Home segment will need connectivity to lots of 2-yr old peripherals... and they will be pissed that neither Vista supports their peripherals, NOR the hardware vendor is keen to write certified drivers for Vista.... this will push hardware makers to go the way of open source drivers, and supporting Linux. Microsoft will be too much of a moving target since old drivers and hacks will no longer work with Vista. Result: Hardware and peripheral makers switch to Linux, and take home users with them.
What peripherals are you talking about? Vista recognizes all the features of my 5 year old printer with ease. I've read a number of reviews and none of mentioned problems with cameras, etc.
The 'build-your-own' segment of PC makers will suffer heavily, since Vista seems specifically designed to discourage this market, and promote large OEMs like Dell and HP. The stability of Vista on custom-built PCs seems much degraded than big-brand PCs of inferior specs.
Where the hell are you getting this from? You're claiming that Vista runs worse on off the shelf parts as compared to Dell?
I'm sorry, I can't read any more of this. Have fun in that little fantasy land of yours.
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It's funny, Windows gets a lot of flack for this, but OS X sure made me reboot after updating Quicktime.
I'm not so much worried about changing the oil as much as changing failed components/servers. I'd think that could be a bit annoying, what with the tank of oil and all.
Theo did appear to blow it out of proportion, but his whole grievance was that this was incredibly public brought to everyone's attention, which is what was rude. Me telling you to eat with your mouth closed in person is polite; me doing so on the six o'clock news is not. There was no need to (initially) humiliate someone in front of such a crowd - contacting the person responsible is both a more reasonable and polite option.
Therefore, if everyone starts selling DRM-free AACs, it's unlikely to drive more business to iTunes
A bit late, but I meant that iTunes selling non-DRM music may increase their sales. I don't agree with the notion that this will make everyone adopt AAC nor that this would be good for Apple.
How do they plan on making that easy on an OS that needs regular attention? This isnt a Linux, OS/2, Sparc, AIX, BSD machine that you can dump in a closet (or container) for months at a time...
As a member of the NOC for a network of hundreds of Linux servers I can say that you are likely exaggerating on both counts (and based on experience, very much so on the latter).
Yes, exactly like that - it's the first link in the article (nice research). That is the kind of thing the person from Microsoft is advocating - I doubt they are seriously considering making a competing product.
He was specifically asked about the iPhone - I tend to talk about things too when I'm asked about them. Read the rest of the interview - he speaks fairly candidly (if obviously from a biased position) with respect to Office competitors from Google and Open Office.
In any case, I tend to agree with his analysis, which is that the iPhone wont get a significant marketshare. Most people will not shell out $500 for a phone. He does say that Apple may find the iPhone very profitable (i.e. it will be a high-margin item, for sure, like most Apple products), just that they wont get a huge marketshare.
Except, you seem to be wrong (unless something has changed since then). I'm sorry that Steve Jobs isn't the revolutionary that you want him to be.
Too late for what exactly?
All they need to do is harness this so that you can set them off on demand - just the thing if the feds come a knocking.
Are you trying to paint the United States as a spoiled teenager? I think you have succeeded.
Sorry for being pedantic, but it's actually Blu-ray, and a Blu-ray Disc != a DVD.
You're assuming that the Summer of Code isn't tightly focused marketing to the 'slashdot' crowd. I'm not sure how much it would actually mean to most non-tech people, but it is obviously a big win in the tech/OSS crowd.
They are also a quickly growing monopoly - almost a new Microsoft. I, like most people, think that Google has a far better reputation than Microsoft, but that doesn't mean that I am happy with them gaining more and more control over information. Most people don't like the notion that most people use Microsoft OS's, but few people question the fact that most people use Google for search, etc. I certainly give them the benefit of the doubt every day (since I use their services), but it is certainly worth some thought as to what they could do if they so chose.
Ahh, because Microsoft protests it means that the concerns aren't well founded. Obviously they have interests in here as well, but that doesn't mean that there isn't cause for alarm.
I'm pretty sure that he meant to learn how to sell yourself so that you can get the job that you deserve. Everyone needs to know how to do that to be successful.
I don't know about you, but I consider the M90 with a Core 2 Duo T7600 and 4GB of RAM to be fairly powerful.
Yup, only one point of view possible in the world. If people don't agree with you they are either stupid or are being paid to do so. This is getting pretty common around here. Do the proponents of OSS* need to start every argument with an ad hominem?
*To be fair, others do as well, but "Microsoft shill" seems to be the most prevalent.
Nice. I sometimes wonder if Twitter is a real person - it doesn't seem possible.
You paid for a browser? What is this, 1996? o_O
1. Your knowledge isn't very good. That's why it's FUD. Try looking at actual minimum requirements. The video requirements are obviously only for Aero, which is optional.
2. The cheapest PC from Dell comes with 512 MB of RAM. This will run Vista Home Basic without any problems. 1-2 GB is only recommended for systems with Aero enabled.
3. Yes, it is _complete_ FUD to say that - you are pulling all this information out of your ass. If you can buy a *NIX is great, I use it for all my servers, but your posts are full of made up bullshit. Maybe stop regurgitating myths you read on the internet and start thinking for yourself.
This is pretty ridiculous. Most computers bought within the last year will run Vista and essentially all new computers can (the cheapest PC from Dell would work fine with Vista). As for drivers, I doubt there will be any problems in 12 months (from what I've heard from people using Vista now, most of them are already resolved).
What peripherals are you talking about? Vista recognizes all the features of my 5 year old printer with ease. I've read a number of reviews and none of mentioned problems with cameras, etc.
Where the hell are you getting this from? You're claiming that Vista runs worse on off the shelf parts as compared to Dell?
I'm sorry, I can't read any more of this. Have fun in that little fantasy land of yours.
It's funny, Windows gets a lot of flack for this, but OS X sure made me reboot after updating Quicktime.
I'm not so much worried about changing the oil as much as changing failed components/servers. I'd think that could be a bit annoying, what with the tank of oil and all.
Theo did appear to blow it out of proportion, but his whole grievance was that this was incredibly public brought to everyone's attention, which is what was rude. Me telling you to eat with your mouth closed in person is polite; me doing so on the six o'clock news is not. There was no need to (initially) humiliate someone in front of such a crowd - contacting the person responsible is both a more reasonable and polite option.
Claiming this is Apple "innovation" is as ridiculous as claiming this is Microsoft "innovation". Give credit where credit is due - bravo EMI.
I fear the Googlezon.
Hate to say it, but insurance scam?
A bit late, but I meant that iTunes selling non-DRM music may increase their sales. I don't agree with the notion that this will make everyone adopt AAC nor that this would be good for Apple.
As a member of the NOC for a network of hundreds of Linux servers I can say that you are likely exaggerating on both counts (and based on experience, very much so on the latter).
Yes, exactly like that - it's the first link in the article (nice research). That is the kind of thing the person from Microsoft is advocating - I doubt they are seriously considering making a competing product.
He's advocating the use of such technologies, not claiming to have invented them.
By the way, there have been ill founded MS bashing posts on the market for years - maybe you should try innovating a new kind of post?