And, in a strange way, you've proven the "geeks don't know business" argument. Well I own my own business and ran a 100% internet based retail site for well over a year. To say anyone does not "know business" is going to be right. You are speaking of a different part of business, one in which you are working for the man. I know what part of business I do know, but to say that me, as a geek, does not know business in general is sort of insulting.
All of the latest marketing and hype for Web 2.0 seems to have this same negative attitude about tech. dweebs. Geeks become slaves, IPOs go through the roof (but you can't afford the shares on a geek's salary) and companies sell vapourware. Projects go over budget, get extended, fire their entire team, hire more expensive consultants and extended again. Huh? What? I mean, for the most part, what you just said was similar about the Web 2.0 bubble and the.com bubble is actually.... well it is what is different, not similar.
Geeks become slaves? Well maybe here and there, but the Open Source movement is happening right along side the Web 2.0 movement.
IPO's through the roof? Nope, not true. This bubble is more about being bought out than going public. Acutally, almost all the new about anything is a buyout, not a IPO.
Companies selling vaporware? Not really, most of this movement is based on generating content for people to read and for you to sell ads on. What is vapor about content?
Projects go over budget, get extended, fire their entire team, hire more expensive consultants and extended again? Examples? This sounds like a company looking to embrace Open Source, not some Web 2.0 thing.
Now the Web 2.0 bubble is still lurking, but it is not here just yet. Some of the other difference with this bubble and the last are that the Internet is being evolved by this one, instead of just utilized and implemented, like the last. IPO's are not causing new jobs to be created with low job security. So the chances of the industry workers suffering like after the.com bust is much less likely.
I dont play for "entertainment" as much as I am entertained by what the game offers. Competition, strategic thinking, social aspects (MMO), and others depending on the game. I go to a movie, read, or watch TV more for pure entertainment than I do with games. Games also offer some to escape reality for a while and "let loose", which is not simple entertainment. Sometime I like a good 20 minutes of fragging before sitting down to code something for example. I am playing to zone out, relax, and not worry about whatever is looming in the near future.
Apple gaining large market share in OS market. We have to deal with every.0025% raise in market share by listening to fanboy's forecasting the demise of Microsoft.
So if I post a video of how to pick a lock and then someone breaks into your house via picking a lock, I am at fault? If I make a post of how to tap a phone and then someone taps yours, I am at fault? I could go on for ages. The criminal is the one who commits the crime. In some cases, those who provide the means are also guilty, but this is not one of those cases.
Sure he may be doing this for self promotion, but what is wrong with using your knowledge to get some recognition? What he gets from this will be worth far more than what he would if he submitted these bugs to be fixed to Apple. Unless Apple is ready to thank he personally for all the bug fixes in a public manner and allow him to post the exploits after they were fixed, then why not?
It is not his public duty to make sure Apple's OS is safe, if anything, it is his to prove that it is not. Hell, you could say it is more irresponsible to not release them to the public than to just submit them to be fixed to Apple. If every XP exploit was sent in like that people would think/know XP was the safest thing around... either way those sys admins you spoke of still have a hard job no matter what. So they have to guard against new threats with these going public... what is new there? That is there job, to be on top of this. That is why they read/. and know where to look to see what the bugs actually end up being when released.
This is hilarious! I always ping yahoo.com when DNS testing too! I choose it because they have a reliable service and consistent response times.... and I never Yahoo! and I would not want to do this to a service/site I like/use:)
Exactly. The examples of what could happen to screw the consumer are numerous. The main point here is that once I buy the song from iTunes, I should be able to listen to that song as many times as I want and on any device I want, period.
Azuerus would have went first dont you think? They are actively trying to expand what they do with videos and such. uTorrent was/is strickly what it says it is, a client to manage torrents that leaves a very small footprint.
Per iTunes library? I was not trying to say that if you own two devices you cannot use both on iTunes, I apologize for the lack of explanation. Rather, if you load music onto your iPod at home with iTunes, then go to work and you have a different copy of iTunes you cannot sync your iPod with that installation/library. Again, sorry for the confusion!
With the rise of iTunes and downloading music online, people are already getting upset about what they can and cant do with the music they OWN. These companies are looking to control how you can use the things you own and people do not like it. One iPod per iTunes, cant share music files, cant move music library - these are just some of the issues people are beginning to realize as they explore the world of digital music (Average User).
People want to do what they want with the things they own, period. Companies should not be deceiving consumers by giving the illusion of ownership when they purchase a song. Instead they should be prompted warned that buying said song from said service will result in the following restrictions. Well maybe they are better off telling them they are not allowed to do anything with the song besides X and X, just to save time and space:)
If the DRM was explained and the restrictions spelled out, as they should be, sales on iTunes and other services would begin to fall as soon as any alternative that allows people to do what they want with the songs comes out. Of course, seasoned digital music consumers have found an alternative already, but no money is being made off that yet... If no alternatives are allowed to hit the market then the average user, as they become more knowledgeable about the issue, will result to the same methods.
This is important like a press release saying the sky is blue is important. Of course a company that is in competition with other companies is going to promote its products before theirs. Google is not trying to launch all these services as individual entities, they are all part of Google. That means that Google will try to cross promote and advertise (for free) its own products. It is common sense as far as I can tell.
Why don't you go to a cab company and ask to advertise another cab service on their cars. Good luck!
What will be aired on CBS will be more or less a documentary, like we have all seen before, on a few gamers. Cool, but call me when the actual game they play is casted on CBS, in its entirety. That will be news. TFA says will do this on their other cable station, but really, this is not new. When any network station allots more than one hour to professional gaming and actually tracks the progress of a tournament for the viewers, ending with a championship game, live or otherwise, that will be a newsworthy event for the community.
Most of what everyone here says is true, but we neglecting something about EA. First, the people that buy EA games are what we would call the general public, which is a market far far larger than are market, being elitist hardcore gamers. While we may know more about this and that, when it comes to EA, they care about the vote that it attached to every dollar people have to spend. At the end of the day, they are making money hand over fist. We may say they barely innovate at all with "Madden" just getting an upgrade every iteration year, but that matters to us. To the other, larger, and more important market, they could care less. They play "Madden" and they are going to buy it again, every year, regardless of promised upgrades.
EA is a huge corporation that makes a ton of making making/publishing/distributing games. As per any large organization, the little man is going to get the shaft. They employ a great deal of people and generally speaking, you know, or should know, what you are getting yourself into with an entry level job there. If you do not like, go look elsewhere. EA surely wronged and still does wrong its employees, but when hardcore gamers get a job at EA in hopes of breaking into the gaming industry they are disappointed with what they see. Justified or not, EA is certainly not the only large corporation who undervalues and mistreats there low level employees. What EA does have going for it is that is a recognizable name that will attract 10 people for a position that vacates because the previous person was pissed at their employer, EA.
Many of them have some glue-type stuff that goes on and cant be seen. I have never heard of anyone getting a ticket for having something like that. It is totally worth the risk if it saves you from even one ticket. I personally do not have one and have never been flashed as far as I know, but I have a few friends who have been saved from a "couple/few of them."
We have all sorts of crap in Arizona for traffic now. Cameras are on the streets, intersections, and even the highways here in AZ. They even do the mobile van units to photograph speeders. While some may it works and lowers speeds, it is total BS. Everyone around here knows it is about the money and the new stations even report on the nice boost of income the cities have seen from photo tickets. As a result many(at least 30%) have some sort of flash reflective cover on their plate to prevent the camera from getting the plate number.
Then again when it comes to tailgating, I am all for this new technology, especially if it remains the duty of an actual officer to issue the ticket. This photo crap has got to be limited to red lights or something.
Microsoft has never really had a direct threat it its business that could actually compete at the same level. Sure they have had someone up against them in one way or another, but I think we can all agree that Google is the first real threat to what Microsoft does. Apple never really had much going against Microsoft to threaten them and Microsoft invited competition with the Zune, which is new either way. The XBox is the only real example and many would argue that they are doing very well with that system. They have it in them to do well.
What I am getting at is that we have no real idea what Microsoft can and will do in a now hostile marketplace. While they have always had people nipping at their heels, this marks the first time they have another powerhouse to compete with. Microsoft will have evolve and innovate to stay with and ahead of Google. I for one welcome this change of scenery. Competition is only to yield better products faster from both companies. Look at the price wars between Intel and AMD and tell me that the consumers are not winning in that.
I would make a free market comment here, but I was just talking about Microsoft so that really does not fit now does it:)
Adding a browser is the next logical step, though if anyone were to not have it I would think it would be the Wii. I like the XBox 360 and what it does, but Microsoft and Sony need to ask themselves what they want these machines to be down the road. It is obvious that the distinction between computer and gaming console are blurring and will eventually meet. If one was to try to predict the future, they would probably say that gaming consoles are going to be more like the "Media Center PC" in the living room. We have all three next-gens on the internet already and two of them pushing media capabilities. Next time around I think they will be all inclusive systems that is "everything media" - Where Nintendo will likely keep its niche and remain strictly, a gaming console.
That being said, Sony and Microsoft and taking losses to establish impenetrable market dominance and brand recognition in four of the biggest markets in the world (Gaming, Music, Entertainment[Hollywood], and Advertising). Does anyone actually think this is not the road we/they are going down?
Oh well that would have been nice would it not? Generally speaking, I still develop for FF and IE6 with compliant code and I have yet to have a problem in IE7 when I do that. It seems like IE7 pretty much renders the same as FF2 on all of the major CSS classes. When you get into some of the crazier things then you need to be looking much more carefully. By the look of all my sites stats though, we will all be developing for IE6 for at least 2 years and even then a safari-esque %age will still be using IE6.
If you have IE7 and FF2, can you test for IE6 through a Firefox extension. I know it is possible with just FF2 and IE6, but I am not sure if the extension uses whatever version of IE you have installed or if is made to be IE6. Thanks for any input
What are all these posts about how well/bad the PS3 is doing on here? First, we have discussed and read about it twice a day for a week now and second, it is all total BS. We can not and should not be saying anything yet because we dont know anything. It will take months, at the earlier to be able to gage what all three systems are doing in comparison to each other. The 360 is the only system that should have stories like this. This time next year I am all about reading how the PS3 really did bomb and how the Wii sold 60 million units. Right now though, it is retarded.. why? Everything is sold out everywhere the second it gets there. Let the market saturate, supply and demand to even out, give a year of manufacturering costs and shipments numbers to adjust, then we can talk okay?
Well a sticky note password the persons fault of course, at least for exposing it. The root of the problem is having multiple passwords that have to change quarterly or more. I have the most passwords in the building and I keep track of them on sticky notes too. I lock the notes in a drawer and that is that. Now nobody ever has to use those passwords besides me, so my solution works. Other people in the building find themselves having to log into other computers to get files all the time. The passwords are almost always in plain sight because of this. These people just do not want to be bothered when they are not there about what their password is. Would you? Then again... these people should call the IT guy/girl instead of bothering that person, but the common office worker does not put that together.
I know for a fact if he came to my office and attempted to get passwords that way, he put in way to much effort. All you need to do at this place is look over someones shoulder at the sticky note stuck to the monitor.
I think it goes without saying that anyone getting into your office claiming to be someone they aren't is a threat. Hacker or otherwise, they can easily get information they want with a "hall pass" for the whole building.
Sonys bottom line is being focused on with the PS3. Blu Ray is part of the focus on the companies bottom line.
Essentially, Nintendo makes its consoles and games and that is the company. They really have nothing else to gain from other things like XBox live, hard drives in consoles, and Sonys Blu Ray. Microsoft and Sony are thinking broader, but still focused on the companies bottom line. If you want to do just the game division, that is fine, but when and if that works that company would find it hard to take that success and apply it to other divisions. The PS3 without Blu Ray is cheaper and maybe easier to make, but if Blu Ray is a success because of the PS3 and/or vice versa, well lets just say Sony will get the last laugh as they dominate to huge markets.
Of course there is more to this and the OP's arguement has merits, but in this dogfight, Sony and Microsoft have FAR FAR more at stake than the success of its gaming division.
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Geeks become slaves? Well maybe here and there, but the Open Source movement is happening right along side the Web 2.0 movement.
IPO's through the roof? Nope, not true. This bubble is more about being bought out than going public. Acutally, almost all the new about anything is a buyout, not a IPO.
Companies selling vaporware? Not really, most of this movement is based on generating content for people to read and for you to sell ads on. What is vapor about content?
Projects go over budget, get extended, fire their entire team, hire more expensive consultants and extended again? Examples? This sounds like a company looking to embrace Open Source, not some Web 2.0 thing.
Now the Web 2.0 bubble is still lurking, but it is not here just yet. Some of the other difference with this bubble and the last are that the Internet is being evolved by this one, instead of just utilized and implemented, like the last. IPO's are not causing new jobs to be created with low job security. So the chances of the industry workers suffering like after the
I dont play for "entertainment" as much as I am entertained by what the game offers. Competition, strategic thinking, social aspects (MMO), and others depending on the game. I go to a movie, read, or watch TV more for pure entertainment than I do with games. Games also offer some to escape reality for a while and "let loose", which is not simple entertainment. Sometime I like a good 20 minutes of fragging before sitting down to code something for example. I am playing to zone out, relax, and not worry about whatever is looming in the near future.
Apple gaining large market share in OS market. We have to deal with every .0025% raise in market share by listening to fanboy's forecasting the demise of Microsoft.
So if I post a video of how to pick a lock and then someone breaks into your house via picking a lock, I am at fault? If I make a post of how to tap a phone and then someone taps yours, I am at fault? I could go on for ages. The criminal is the one who commits the crime. In some cases, those who provide the means are also guilty, but this is not one of those cases.
Sure he may be doing this for self promotion, but what is wrong with using your knowledge to get some recognition? What he gets from this will be worth far more than what he would if he submitted these bugs to be fixed to Apple. Unless Apple is ready to thank he personally for all the bug fixes in a public manner and allow him to post the exploits after they were fixed, then why not?
It is not his public duty to make sure Apple's OS is safe, if anything, it is his to prove that it is not. Hell, you could say it is more irresponsible to not release them to the public than to just submit them to be fixed to Apple. If every XP exploit was sent in like that people would think/know XP was the safest thing around... either way those sys admins you spoke of still have a hard job no matter what. So they have to guard against new threats with these going public... what is new there? That is there job, to be on top of this. That is why they read /. and know where to look to see what the bugs actually end up being when released.
This is hilarious! I always ping yahoo.com when DNS testing too! I choose it because they have a reliable service and consistent response times.... and I never Yahoo! and I would not want to do this to a service/site I like/use :)
Thanks for passing all those protection and security measures you develop to your customers! Wait a tic...
Exactly. The examples of what could happen to screw the consumer are numerous. The main point here is that once I buy the song from iTunes, I should be able to listen to that song as many times as I want and on any device I want, period.
Azuerus would have went first dont you think? They are actively trying to expand what they do with videos and such. uTorrent was/is strickly what it says it is, a client to manage torrents that leaves a very small footprint.
Per iTunes library? I was not trying to say that if you own two devices you cannot use both on iTunes, I apologize for the lack of explanation. Rather, if you load music onto your iPod at home with iTunes, then go to work and you have a different copy of iTunes you cannot sync your iPod with that installation/library. Again, sorry for the confusion!
People want to do what they want with the things they own, period. Companies should not be deceiving consumers by giving the illusion of ownership when they purchase a song. Instead they should be prompted warned that buying said song from said service will result in the following restrictions. Well maybe they are better off telling them they are not allowed to do anything with the song besides X and X, just to save time and space :)
If the DRM was explained and the restrictions spelled out, as they should be, sales on iTunes and other services would begin to fall as soon as any alternative that allows people to do what they want with the songs comes out. Of course, seasoned digital music consumers have found an alternative already, but no money is being made off that yet... If no alternatives are allowed to hit the market then the average user, as they become more knowledgeable about the issue, will result to the same methods.
Why don't you go to a cab company and ask to advertise another cab service on their cars. Good luck!
What will be aired on CBS will be more or less a documentary, like we have all seen before, on a few gamers. Cool, but call me when the actual game they play is casted on CBS, in its entirety. That will be news. TFA says will do this on their other cable station, but really, this is not new. When any network station allots more than one hour to professional gaming and actually tracks the progress of a tournament for the viewers, ending with a championship game, live or otherwise, that will be a newsworthy event for the community.
EA is a huge corporation that makes a ton of making making/publishing/distributing games. As per any large organization, the little man is going to get the shaft. They employ a great deal of people and generally speaking, you know, or should know, what you are getting yourself into with an entry level job there. If you do not like, go look elsewhere. EA surely wronged and still does wrong its employees, but when hardcore gamers get a job at EA in hopes of breaking into the gaming industry they are disappointed with what they see. Justified or not, EA is certainly not the only large corporation who undervalues and mistreats there low level employees. What EA does have going for it is that is a recognizable name that will attract 10 people for a position that vacates because the previous person was pissed at their employer, EA.
Many of them have some glue-type stuff that goes on and cant be seen. I have never heard of anyone getting a ticket for having something like that. It is totally worth the risk if it saves you from even one ticket. I personally do not have one and have never been flashed as far as I know, but I have a few friends who have been saved from a "couple/few of them."
Then again when it comes to tailgating, I am all for this new technology, especially if it remains the duty of an actual officer to issue the ticket. This photo crap has got to be limited to red lights or something.
What I am getting at is that we have no real idea what Microsoft can and will do in a now hostile marketplace. While they have always had people nipping at their heels, this marks the first time they have another powerhouse to compete with. Microsoft will have evolve and innovate to stay with and ahead of Google. I for one welcome this change of scenery. Competition is only to yield better products faster from both companies. Look at the price wars between Intel and AMD and tell me that the consumers are not winning in that.
I would make a free market comment here, but I was just talking about Microsoft so that really does not fit now does it :)
That being said, Sony and Microsoft and taking losses to establish impenetrable market dominance and brand recognition in four of the biggest markets in the world (Gaming, Music, Entertainment[Hollywood], and Advertising). Does anyone actually think this is not the road we/they are going down?
Oh well that would have been nice would it not? Generally speaking, I still develop for FF and IE6 with compliant code and I have yet to have a problem in IE7 when I do that. It seems like IE7 pretty much renders the same as FF2 on all of the major CSS classes. When you get into some of the crazier things then you need to be looking much more carefully. By the look of all my sites stats though, we will all be developing for IE6 for at least 2 years and even then a safari-esque %age will still be using IE6.
If you have IE7 and FF2, can you test for IE6 through a Firefox extension. I know it is possible with just FF2 and IE6, but I am not sure if the extension uses whatever version of IE you have installed or if is made to be IE6. Thanks for any input
What are all these posts about how well/bad the PS3 is doing on here? First, we have discussed and read about it twice a day for a week now and second, it is all total BS. We can not and should not be saying anything yet because we dont know anything. It will take months, at the earlier to be able to gage what all three systems are doing in comparison to each other. The 360 is the only system that should have stories like this. This time next year I am all about reading how the PS3 really did bomb and how the Wii sold 60 million units. Right now though, it is retarded.. why? Everything is sold out everywhere the second it gets there. Let the market saturate, supply and demand to even out, give a year of manufacturering costs and shipments numbers to adjust, then we can talk okay?
Well a sticky note password the persons fault of course, at least for exposing it. The root of the problem is having multiple passwords that have to change quarterly or more. I have the most passwords in the building and I keep track of them on sticky notes too. I lock the notes in a drawer and that is that. Now nobody ever has to use those passwords besides me, so my solution works. Other people in the building find themselves having to log into other computers to get files all the time. The passwords are almost always in plain sight because of this. These people just do not want to be bothered when they are not there about what their password is. Would you? Then again... these people should call the IT guy/girl instead of bothering that person, but the common office worker does not put that together.
I think it goes without saying that anyone getting into your office claiming to be someone they aren't is a threat. Hacker or otherwise, they can easily get information they want with a "hall pass" for the whole building.
Essentially, Nintendo makes its consoles and games and that is the company. They really have nothing else to gain from other things like XBox live, hard drives in consoles, and Sonys Blu Ray. Microsoft and Sony are thinking broader, but still focused on the companies bottom line. If you want to do just the game division, that is fine, but when and if that works that company would find it hard to take that success and apply it to other divisions. The PS3 without Blu Ray is cheaper and maybe easier to make, but if Blu Ray is a success because of the PS3 and/or vice versa, well lets just say Sony will get the last laugh as they dominate to huge markets.
Of course there is more to this and the OP's arguement has merits, but in this dogfight, Sony and Microsoft have FAR FAR more at stake than the success of its gaming division.