If you've been wondering about whether or not the controller is going to be tiring, then Chris Kohler's assurances for the worried gamer will be especially appreciated..
Is there anyone else who just finds the idea of gamers being worried about being tired from playing games kinds of ironic if not just shameful? hehe
The gamers are not going to drive the initial adoption of Blue-Ray as a movie format.
No, they are not going to drive the market, but they are going to be part of the market. IF there are no problems with the PS3 Blu-Ray player, then you are going to convert gamers to Blu-Ray instead of HD-DVD, unless they own an HD-DVD setup before their PS3 purchase.
All of the mention of Ebay and the like means that the people who are reselling preorders are making a lot of money, not Sony.
The point about eBay is that people will buy a PS3, which is to counter-argue those who say no one will buy one due to it's cost, not about who's making the money.
If they had a large number of non-Blu-Ray PS3s already on the market, then they would be making much larger profits.
PS3's are sold at a loss for the sake of gaining market share to recoup costs in license-fees and accessory such as joysticks and memory cards. If they had more PS3's on the market, would mean they're making a profit on it. Only if they had developers cranking out games and paying their fees. Profits will take time to recoup when you sell a system for a loss.
That is exactly why Sony went out and bought a bunch of movie studios.
Indeed, this format war is significantly different that the first. It will be interesting to see what happens as the Betamax/VHS thing was *just* before my time.
That's an interesting concept. How's the usability? Do people read that little note and remember to add 'banana'? Or do you send them a notice should they fail and they can easily add your code word to the beginning?
Also, there's some note somewhere about Captchas containing questions instead of codes. So, your capture might have 2 + 2 = and the answer to validate would be 4. This way, it's a double edge effect. The computer would have to recognize the images and the 'question' so to speak. But your users would also have to be smart enough. =P
Of course, you can extend this to be multi-level. Place multiple Captcha images for the Q/A. Such as...
And then have your instructions be something like "combine the codes and div starting from the back". Then you can alternate the 'rules' to entering the captcha or which captcha to use or how. This is to confuse the computer such that it no longer fits the previous algorithm. Then again, you're not moving into the realm of making it MORE difficult than it's worth.
I would suggest maybe putting in Captchas for every spot you might submit a post, etc. This way, bots cannot or have more difficulty making posts. Here are more links I had on these, but I haven't looked at them in a while...
I could be wrong, but it seems like including Blu-Ray may be the biggest mistake that Sony made on the PS3;
Sony is either smart or very dumb. The jury is still out (despite what most/. members think, like myself).
However, we need to look at it like this... what would have happened if Sony did NOT put blu-ray in their PS3? HD-DVD would have garnered a large early lead against Sony and probably would have killed of Blu-Ray. It's just one big obvious strategy. Sure, the gamers are largely unhappy about it, due to the increase in cost, but if they have a Blu-Ray on their game system (whether they want it or not), and they start to build a Blu-Ray DVD collection, they're more likely to purchase a Blu-Ray stand-alone since they already started a Blu-Ray collection.
It was more of a do or die strategy. The PS3 was the only thing they could guarantee that their technology would get penetration. Lets face it, when it comes to spending money, it's only gamers who would justify $600 for a video game system, just like they spend $400 for the latest video card for their PC or buy/build a $4,000 gaming rig. That doesn't mean YOU (or more appropriately MYSELF) would spend that much on a brand new system, but that's not to say there isn't people out there that would.
I just talked to a friend of mine who waited in line at Toy-R-Us for their PS3 system. While doing so, he found a famous Green Bay Packers Wide Receiver (American Football) trying to buy their PS3 system off them for $100 extra. He ran into the same guy later at the Casino and found out he bribed a Circuit City employee to put his name at the top of the Pre-order list.
This same friend, who purchased 2 PS3 (he went with his cousin), are doing the whole E-Bay thing, where the pre-orders are selling for upwards of $3,000 now. So, the point is, Sony will sell their PS3's. Did they hurt their PlayStation franchise to push their Blu-Ray player? Absolutely. Will their PS3 survive? Without a doubt. Will it loose market share? No question about it, at least for the short term. Does this put Sony's Blu-Ray in a competitive position to become the 'next' format. Yes, without doing this, it would not have been as likely to succeed. In this way, they didn't have much choice. If Blu-Ray succeeds, that means Sony will be making enormous profits for decades. If the PS3 loose a large market share, it will still retain some and it can still gain ground in the future with huge price drops. This isn't a PS3 strategy. This is a Blu-Ray strategy.
I'm not planning on buying one, at least not for probably 3-4 years. I only bought a PS2 a month ago. =P
Anyone who actually reads the Bible will find, "Thou shalt not kill", "Thou shalt not steal", etc, etc.
The Bible (old Testament)is also filled with stories of death, destruction, doom and gloom at the 'hands' of the all knowing, all loving, and all powerful big "G". Of course, I believe that faith and therefor religion is an important part in the development of any person, particularly at an early age, for it's morals, proverbs, wit, and wisdom, but not to the point of closed minded singularity.
Note, however, that the classic controller is an attachment for the Wiimote (just like the nunchuck). Also, the Wiimote is $40 and the nunchuck is $20.
Hmm... I got this one wrong. For some reason, I was expecting the 'classic' controller to plug into the Gamecube slots. But indeed, it's just a Wii mote attachment. This I am a little disappointed by, but not surprised when I think about it.
hey don't support online play right now, so they won't get my money.
Now or later, they're going to have it. Wi-Fi is already built into the system. So, it's $250 now or $250 later. I won't expect price drops for the console for 2 years, when it's possible they might release a more multi-media enabled device with DVD support in the States and Europe, like they're going to release in Japan from the get-go.
To have a fun game of Red Steel i'm going to need to invest in 160.00 worth of controllers. That just isn't right!
Controllers will cost either $20 for the classic or $60 for the new-deal ($20 Wii-mote + $40 Nunchuk). It comes with one controller. So, you'll have to spend between $60 - $180 on controllers. I pre-ordered (since controllers are going to be limited just like the consoles) 2 'classic' controllers and one new one. Overtime, I will upgrade remotes if I need to. I only got 2 classics because of their low cost and I expect to have 4 people playing some Marvel action with me. Either way, I think I'll be enjoying Red Steel even if I'm the only one playing.
Hmm... so much PHP hatred. I'm a little surprised here. Although, I cannot disagree with people's claim on how PHP gets used to pump out complete slop by new-to-programming people, what would be the open-source choice if not PHP?
The only other thing I can think of is JSP, which I started working with once, but soon grew a bit frustrated with trying to get it to work on Windows in a "WAMP" environment. I also found that it was just confusing to organize, and this comes from a programmer who spent most of his time in Java in College. Or maybe, I've just grown soft with PHP. What's the recommended server-side langauge by SlashDot readers? I'm looking to start branching out to a new language soon.
I reckon we need to coin a new term for the Internet "eTard" in honor of Leroy and many of the other blinding acts of stupidity we all see online everyday.
It's not clear from your post, but you do know that the Leroy Jenkins video was staged, right? Or at least that's the idea, but you can read it all here.
Just one more good reason to build your own system.
I would always advocate building your own vs. buying, however, there's becoming a finer line between pricing, power, service, and hassle. I recently (like 6-months ago, so I guess that's like a different era in computers terms) went through the whole, "I'm going to get a new computer" process. I ended up with a Dell XPS 600. I'm quite happy with it so far. Some small annoyances, I shouldn't have gotten the WinXP Media Center, so much crap software is installed on it, and for some strange reason, at random times, my mouse wouldn't activate on boot-up until I re-plugged it in.
The thing is, I can build my own and I've done it enough in the past. However, build your own only works best if you have 'known good' parts you can swap out, should something drastically bad go wrong. Like my last effort to upgrade my old box to the point of building my own. New MoBo, CPU, RAM, etc. Well, the MoBo I ordered was bad, it fried the whole system, and I had to replace all the parts. I can tell you, it was not a pleasure to contact each manufacturer and/or online store to get the warranty invoked for replacement parts. It was taking over a month, and so I just bought a nice laptop instead.
This time around, I could have built a 'faster' computer for the same price as some XPS systems, but then I'd have to still buy a Monitor and such. However, the speed I would get out of the new system wasn't significantly better than the XPS system I built. Nor did it have the 3-year warranty(even if Customer Service is a PITA). However, with my DELL laptop, I can tell you, when parts broke, like a Hard Drive, or RAM, one (long) phone call and I'd get a new replacement part in the mail practically the next day, with FedEx, where I could swap parts, and mail (at no cost) the bad part back. I also didn't have to setup the RAID drives or purchase a WinXP license, install all the software (though it would be better since I can skip all the Dell crap they add), etc. etc. Basically, it was easier and just as expensive, after doing to pricewatch.com and picking all my parts, paying for shipping, buying a monitor, putting everything together, crossing my fingers everything works, and hopping for the best, to just buy a Dell and go from there. Of course, now, I can just upgrade at this point. Which was my whole plan.
Dells prices have gotten to the point that, it's actually not such a bad idea, if you have to get an entire new system, that you might as well get it all at once with a warranty for all your parts from the same place, to save some hassle.
it's supposed to be value added to the consumer's experience
One way to add value, is to decrease/remove value. Get red of all those 'extra' features like DVD 'duel' sided disks, 'CD-ROM' PC enabled content, videos, etc. Give me the music and charge me $7 and I'll buy more CD's without feeling guilty about it. There's a lot the record industry could do, if they just thought outside the box.
I use to go to GarageBand.com and find all kinds of good stuff that I could download the MP3. I'd fill up some rock tracks and work out to some exciting music I've never heard before, and I'll never hear on the radio, keeping it fresher, longer.
If Google achieves carbon neutrality, even partially, the message it will send to corporations, start-ups, and individuals will be, "You can be environmentally conscious and financially successful; the two are not mutually exclusive."
I saw a promotional advertisement video on 'green' manufacturing, and while I do not buy into a lot of the whole 'save the world before it is too late' fear, I do believe that the concepts of green manufacturing just plain make sense to some degree.
Maybe being a programmer and being stuck in too many 'dungeons' makes me feel this way, but adding large windows, more greenery(plants) inside offices and plants (where they do not risk safety obviously) just makes employees feel such much better, that they're happier and more productive, aside from reduced heating bills due to solar heat (though, some factories don't have to worry about producing heat, hehe).
On the other hand, I doubt there is a lot of start-ups who could afford to invest their startup money on an expensive building, when that capital needs to be spent on... well, getting their company started. The problem always comes down to money, sure long term, it can save you money, after like 20+ years, but the premium on these places are high and most start-ups will move into pre-existing space. And when you want to start a business, you look at a $1 million building or a $10 million building, you're probably going to go for the $1 million building. Of course, if you become Google and light cigars with $100 bills, then you could probably afford a green building.
...and marketing costs related to the launch of the PlayStation 3
Or poor marketing. If it wasn't for/., I'd probably not have read much about the PS3. Less than a month before launch, I've not seen a TV ad or recall seeing other adds. Or maybe I just don't buy and read game mags. much. I only get my one from EBgames.
I enjoy playing a demo at a store if I see one, but usually they're so bloody annoying to actaully get into a demo to play I give up before I make it past all the info. screens.
I have 3 factors that will determine a game purchase...
Price
excitement (is it a game/title I'm a fan of?)
Review Score
I usually check the review on IGN.com for their score. Anything that's a 9/10 or higher is pretty much sold in my book if it meets the other two criteria well enough. Anything, less, even an 8, makes me question the purchase unless it's something I really want. If a game gets >9 and I've never heard of it, I'd probably buy a used version. It's even enjoyable to play a game I have no idea what it's about. Demos have little effect on my purchase habits, though I did enjoy getting PSP demos. I actually tried them and it's been a long time since I picked up my PSP.
Everything else Sony has done is boneheaded (going for overpriced design, trying to impose BluRay through the PS3, arrogant statements, E3 screwups, poor production management), but on the rumble patent, I do feel for them.
I have to agree, the Rumble feature, while I feel is an important tool for gaming, would not attribute much to poor sales alone, if they happen. I would predict that it's all about price point, no matter how 'great' a system is. Just look at the NeoGeo.
Actually, I also believe it's not going to be just the high price but also the low price that's going to hurt it. From talking to some of my friends at local game stores, I 'hear' that there's some 'talk' about people just getting it for a cheap Blu-Ray player and these people have little interest in actual gaming. It's going to be quite deceiving to 3rd party companies. Sony will be able to post signs that their consoles are having 'strong' sales, but a percentage of those sales will never play a game because their being purchased as movie players by 'early adopter' enthusiasts.
I'm just worried that their price point is going to kill them for 1) being too high for gamers and 2) being too low for Blue-Ray players, making some sales used less or not at all for gaming.
It's the games that sell the system, not the system that sells the games. If games don't sell on the PS3 (due to the reasons cited above), Sony will have to dump a lot of money into building a ladder to get out of their hole (which will get deep the more ladder they have to build).
re:"Oh, and Microsoft and Nintendo have rumble and great battery life. I'm not worried."
Good for you! You should go to the Wii threads and talk about that there instead of trolling here perhaps?
Oh FUCK - I accused a fucking fanboy of trolling - there goes my modpoints to flamebait. Holy FUCK.
I'll give you credit for one thing, not posting anonymously, other than that, your Sony fan selectiveness forgot to point out, he mentioned BOTH competitors, not only Nintendo. Are Sony fans really that scared about Nintendo?
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Is there anyone else who just finds the idea of gamers being worried about being tired from playing games kinds of ironic if not just shameful? hehe
No, they are not going to drive the market, but they are going to be part of the market. IF there are no problems with the PS3 Blu-Ray player, then you are going to convert gamers to Blu-Ray instead of HD-DVD, unless they own an HD-DVD setup before their PS3 purchase.
The point about eBay is that people will buy a PS3, which is to counter-argue those who say no one will buy one due to it's cost, not about who's making the money.
PS3's are sold at a loss for the sake of gaining market share to recoup costs in license-fees and accessory such as joysticks and memory cards. If they had more PS3's on the market, would mean they're making a profit on it. Only if they had developers cranking out games and paying their fees. Profits will take time to recoup when you sell a system for a loss.
Indeed, this format war is significantly different that the first. It will be interesting to see what happens as the Betamax/VHS thing was *just* before my time.
Cheers,
Fozzy
*sigh* I guess I better call Sex Addicts consoler... again.
That's an interesting concept. How's the usability? Do people read that little note and remember to add 'banana'? Or do you send them a notice should they fail and they can easily add your code word to the beginning?
Also, there's some note somewhere about Captchas containing questions instead of codes. So, your capture might have 2 + 2 = and the answer to validate would be 4. This way, it's a double edge effect. The computer would have to recognize the images and the 'question' so to speak. But your users would also have to be smart enough. =P
Of course, you can extend this to be multi-level. Place multiple Captcha images for the Q/A. Such as...
[ image 1 - code 1]
...
[ image 2 - code 2]
[ image 3 - code 3]
And then have your instructions be something like "combine the codes and div starting from the back". Then you can alternate the 'rules' to entering the captcha or which captcha to use or how. This is to confuse the computer such that it no longer fits the previous algorithm. Then again, you're not moving into the realm of making it MORE difficult than it's worth.
Cheers,
Fozzy
I would suggest maybe putting in Captchas for every spot you might submit a post, etc. This way, bots cannot or have more difficulty making posts. Here are more links I had on these, but I haven't looked at them in a while...
That would be a safe assumption. =D
Sony is either smart or very dumb. The jury is still out (despite what most /. members think, like myself).
However, we need to look at it like this... what would have happened if Sony did NOT put blu-ray in their PS3? HD-DVD would have garnered a large early lead against Sony and probably would have killed of Blu-Ray. It's just one big obvious strategy. Sure, the gamers are largely unhappy about it, due to the increase in cost, but if they have a Blu-Ray on their game system (whether they want it or not), and they start to build a Blu-Ray DVD collection, they're more likely to purchase a Blu-Ray stand-alone since they already started a Blu-Ray collection.
It was more of a do or die strategy. The PS3 was the only thing they could guarantee that their technology would get penetration. Lets face it, when it comes to spending money, it's only gamers who would justify $600 for a video game system, just like they spend $400 for the latest video card for their PC or buy/build a $4,000 gaming rig. That doesn't mean YOU (or more appropriately MYSELF) would spend that much on a brand new system, but that's not to say there isn't people out there that would.
I just talked to a friend of mine who waited in line at Toy-R-Us for their PS3 system. While doing so, he found a famous Green Bay Packers Wide Receiver (American Football) trying to buy their PS3 system off them for $100 extra. He ran into the same guy later at the Casino and found out he bribed a Circuit City employee to put his name at the top of the Pre-order list.
This same friend, who purchased 2 PS3 (he went with his cousin), are doing the whole E-Bay thing, where the pre-orders are selling for upwards of $3,000 now. So, the point is, Sony will sell their PS3's. Did they hurt their PlayStation franchise to push their Blu-Ray player? Absolutely. Will their PS3 survive? Without a doubt. Will it loose market share? No question about it, at least for the short term. Does this put Sony's Blu-Ray in a competitive position to become the 'next' format. Yes, without doing this, it would not have been as likely to succeed. In this way, they didn't have much choice. If Blu-Ray succeeds, that means Sony will be making enormous profits for decades. If the PS3 loose a large market share, it will still retain some and it can still gain ground in the future with huge price drops. This isn't a PS3 strategy. This is a Blu-Ray strategy.
I'm not planning on buying one, at least not for probably 3-4 years. I only bought a PS2 a month ago. =P
Cheers,
Fozzy
Hey, maybe they can make it a Foreign language credit as well! Parlez-vous Web?
The Bible (old Testament)is also filled with stories of death, destruction, doom and gloom at the 'hands' of the all knowing, all loving, and all powerful big "G". Of course, I believe that faith and therefor religion is an important part in the development of any person, particularly at an early age, for it's morals, proverbs, wit, and wisdom, but not to the point of closed minded singularity.
Cheers,
Fozzy
Hmm... I got this one wrong. For some reason, I was expecting the 'classic' controller to plug into the Gamecube slots. But indeed, it's just a Wii mote attachment. This I am a little disappointed by, but not surprised when I think about it.
Now or later, they're going to have it. Wi-Fi is already built into the system. So, it's $250 now or $250 later. I won't expect price drops for the console for 2 years, when it's possible they might release a more multi-media enabled device with DVD support in the States and Europe, like they're going to release in Japan from the get-go.
Controllers will cost either $20 for the classic or $60 for the new-deal ($20 Wii-mote + $40 Nunchuk). It comes with one controller. So, you'll have to spend between $60 - $180 on controllers. I pre-ordered (since controllers are going to be limited just like the consoles) 2 'classic' controllers and one new one. Overtime, I will upgrade remotes if I need to. I only got 2 classics because of their low cost and I expect to have 4 people playing some Marvel action with me. Either way, I think I'll be enjoying Red Steel even if I'm the only one playing.
Cheers,
Fozzy
Next time, I'd go with the "Treat".
Hmm... so much PHP hatred. I'm a little surprised here. Although, I cannot disagree with people's claim on how PHP gets used to pump out complete slop by new-to-programming people, what would be the open-source choice if not PHP?
The only other thing I can think of is JSP, which I started working with once, but soon grew a bit frustrated with trying to get it to work on Windows in a "WAMP" environment. I also found that it was just confusing to organize, and this comes from a programmer who spent most of his time in Java in College. Or maybe, I've just grown soft with PHP. What's the recommended server-side langauge by SlashDot readers? I'm looking to start branching out to a new language soon.
Cheers,
Fozzy
It's not clear from your post, but you do know that the Leroy Jenkins video was staged, right? Or at least that's the idea, but you can read it all here.
HA! Rtard! So, that's what they said on South Park. See, learn something new everyday.
Sorry, I have to keep this short because I have to go and buy a new GM car because there's this cool exclusive garbage can I want to put in my house.
Cheers,
Fozzy
ps. the funniest thing is the card game has a "Leroy Jenkins" card. hehe
I would always advocate building your own vs. buying, however, there's becoming a finer line between pricing, power, service, and hassle. I recently (like 6-months ago, so I guess that's like a different era in computers terms) went through the whole, "I'm going to get a new computer" process. I ended up with a Dell XPS 600. I'm quite happy with it so far. Some small annoyances, I shouldn't have gotten the WinXP Media Center, so much crap software is installed on it, and for some strange reason, at random times, my mouse wouldn't activate on boot-up until I re-plugged it in.
The thing is, I can build my own and I've done it enough in the past. However, build your own only works best if you have 'known good' parts you can swap out, should something drastically bad go wrong. Like my last effort to upgrade my old box to the point of building my own. New MoBo, CPU, RAM, etc. Well, the MoBo I ordered was bad, it fried the whole system, and I had to replace all the parts. I can tell you, it was not a pleasure to contact each manufacturer and/or online store to get the warranty invoked for replacement parts. It was taking over a month, and so I just bought a nice laptop instead.
This time around, I could have built a 'faster' computer for the same price as some XPS systems, but then I'd have to still buy a Monitor and such. However, the speed I would get out of the new system wasn't significantly better than the XPS system I built. Nor did it have the 3-year warranty(even if Customer Service is a PITA). However, with my DELL laptop, I can tell you, when parts broke, like a Hard Drive, or RAM, one (long) phone call and I'd get a new replacement part in the mail practically the next day, with FedEx, where I could swap parts, and mail (at no cost) the bad part back. I also didn't have to setup the RAID drives or purchase a WinXP license, install all the software (though it would be better since I can skip all the Dell crap they add), etc. etc. Basically, it was easier and just as expensive, after doing to pricewatch.com and picking all my parts, paying for shipping, buying a monitor, putting everything together, crossing my fingers everything works, and hopping for the best, to just buy a Dell and go from there. Of course, now, I can just upgrade at this point. Which was my whole plan.
Dells prices have gotten to the point that, it's actually not such a bad idea, if you have to get an entire new system, that you might as well get it all at once with a warranty for all your parts from the same place, to save some hassle.
Cheers,
Fozzy
One way to add value, is to decrease/remove value. Get red of all those 'extra' features like DVD 'duel' sided disks, 'CD-ROM' PC enabled content, videos, etc. Give me the music and charge me $7 and I'll buy more CD's without feeling guilty about it. There's a lot the record industry could do, if they just thought outside the box.
I use to go to GarageBand.com and find all kinds of good stuff that I could download the MP3. I'd fill up some rock tracks and work out to some exciting music I've never heard before, and I'll never hear on the radio, keeping it fresher, longer.
Cheers,
Fozzy
I saw a promotional advertisement video on 'green' manufacturing, and while I do not buy into a lot of the whole 'save the world before it is too late' fear, I do believe that the concepts of green manufacturing just plain make sense to some degree.
Maybe being a programmer and being stuck in too many 'dungeons' makes me feel this way, but adding large windows, more greenery(plants) inside offices and plants (where they do not risk safety obviously) just makes employees feel such much better, that they're happier and more productive, aside from reduced heating bills due to solar heat (though, some factories don't have to worry about producing heat, hehe).
On the other hand, I doubt there is a lot of start-ups who could afford to invest their startup money on an expensive building, when that capital needs to be spent on... well, getting their company started. The problem always comes down to money, sure long term, it can save you money, after like 20+ years, but the premium on these places are high and most start-ups will move into pre-existing space. And when you want to start a business, you look at a $1 million building or a $10 million building, you're probably going to go for the $1 million building. Of course, if you become Google and light cigars with $100 bills, then you could probably afford a green building.
Cheers,
Fozzy
Or poor marketing. If it wasn't for /., I'd probably not have read much about the PS3. Less than a month before launch, I've not seen a TV ad or recall seeing other adds. Or maybe I just don't buy and read game mags. much. I only get my one from EBgames.
I enjoy playing a demo at a store if I see one, but usually they're so bloody annoying to actaully get into a demo to play I give up before I make it past all the info. screens.
I have 3 factors that will determine a game purchase...
I usually check the review on IGN.com for their score. Anything that's a 9/10 or higher is pretty much sold in my book if it meets the other two criteria well enough. Anything, less, even an 8, makes me question the purchase unless it's something I really want. If a game gets >9 and I've never heard of it, I'd probably buy a used version. It's even enjoyable to play a game I have no idea what it's about. Demos have little effect on my purchase habits, though I did enjoy getting PSP demos. I actually tried them and it's been a long time since I picked up my PSP.
Cheers,
Fozzy
I have to agree, the Rumble feature, while I feel is an important tool for gaming, would not attribute much to poor sales alone, if they happen. I would predict that it's all about price point, no matter how 'great' a system is. Just look at the NeoGeo.
Actually, I also believe it's not going to be just the high price but also the low price that's going to hurt it. From talking to some of my friends at local game stores, I 'hear' that there's some 'talk' about people just getting it for a cheap Blu-Ray player and these people have little interest in actual gaming. It's going to be quite deceiving to 3rd party companies. Sony will be able to post signs that their consoles are having 'strong' sales, but a percentage of those sales will never play a game because their being purchased as movie players by 'early adopter' enthusiasts.
I'm just worried that their price point is going to kill them for 1) being too high for gamers and 2) being too low for Blue-Ray players, making some sales used less or not at all for gaming.
It's the games that sell the system, not the system that sells the games. If games don't sell on the PS3 (due to the reasons cited above), Sony will have to dump a lot of money into building a ladder to get out of their hole (which will get deep the more ladder they have to build).
Cheers,
Fozzy
I'll give you credit for one thing, not posting anonymously, other than that, your Sony fan selectiveness forgot to point out, he mentioned BOTH competitors, not only Nintendo. Are Sony fans really that scared about Nintendo?
Cheers,
Fozzy
One more nitpick... That's more of a Mike Meyer's mask than a Jason Mask
WoW doesn't like fat people... look at what they did with the Ogres not that long ago!