Is there such a amount of refrigerators just lying around that there is a need for this machine?
I recently replaced my fridge. My trash pick-up will take fridges as long as you call them 36 hour in advance. I called, then put the fridge with door off at the curb the night before. It was there all of 15 minutes before the scrap guys the comb my area got it and took it away. There is money to be made off them in the form of recycled metals and reclaiming the refrigerant left in them. Most times when you have a working fridge, it's no problem to get rid of it to someone else who needed it. The replacement programs give about 10 to 50 buck for a running fridge. More times then not a fridge is worth more to sell to someone or even get the scrap from them then it is to turn in for the cash back. In the end those companies could stand to make 5 or 6 times that amount off of turned in fridges.
Mod up parent! I didn't read it till I saw your post. Typical of people to go on and on here on slashdot without RTFA.
Sounds like he was exonerated in the minds of people that agree with him. To bad we have people that want to point political fingers and not look at all things in a unbiased, reasonable manner.
DSL from AT&T here are very quirky. A buddy has one that gets close to 20% better then advertised, yet a business I do support for that is a half mile away struggles to get 50% of the listed speeds. Funny thing is that the business is susposedly closer to the telco then my buddy. I know there are many factors, but AT&T has supposedly "tested" all the lines and says its' all "ok". I always take that with a large grain of salt, because I have found AT&T likes to find a excuse and stick to it till you prove them wrong. It usually takes threats of dropping service to get them to actually do something, much like when their equipment goes bad and they want you to pay $80 for a cheesy DSL modem.
Organizations like the WHO and CDC do seem to overstate the problems quite a bit to, so it's not just the media. They get the info from the CDC and WHO, then add another level of spin to it. But the WHO and CDC do take the over reactionary route most times. That is why you see people in china and Japan wearing face masks.
It's more of a case of the boy that cried wolf. People hear these threats of a new pandemic over and over, yet they don't materialize. After awhile, people get desensitized to it and tend not to trust the reports anymore. The fault isn't all on the media, as scientists and doctors could stress at what level they think whatever new strain is at. The ones affiliated with the CDC and WHO are the worst at this, as they create a world wide panic without positive proof that these diseases could reach a pandemic level. They'd rather push a vaccination that a lot of times isn't the correct one for the diseases which adds to the level of distrust for these organizations and the media.
Sort of. The sysop usually would have people who used the BBS they OPerated be sysadmins of certain parts of the BBS. That didn't mean that the sysop didn't do any administration though, as most times it was the sysop that created or ok'ed new accounts and gave permissions. Maintain the BBS for the most part came down to the sysop also. Sysadmins were really akin to moderators on forums now.
Gee really? I mean the fact that we can go outside in the summer, we are not under water and the only reason oil prices are high is because of greed kind of tells me that a lot of people got a lot of thinks wrong. Hell, in the early 90's some wanted us all to believe we would all be dead. Nothing is ever accomplished using the Henny Penny method of FUD to try and change people. Truth is worth more in changing peoples minds.
So the US government is the only government killing innocent people every day? Not that it makes any of it right, but you seem to want to paint a picture where it's only the US doing this. Truth is, the US is even close to being number one in this category by a long shot.
I am sure politicians look at a little more then a accuracy number in picking these systems. More like "My friend Mr. X own Y company that makes this software that "we" can make ZZZ million dollars off of." The politician then goes in front of whoever, cooks the numbers in favor of approval, then takes a position with the company as a "consultant" at a cost of 1.2 million a year. He then pays off people like the idiot lady in the story do sing praises for the system and spread FUD in a effort to justify the software. "Well yeah, it gave a million false positives, but we stopped a person from driving because of a failure to yield the right of way and made $200 on it to justify our $150 million dollar expense."
Silly rabbit, those were not about safety. Those were about money and companies that got the contract to install them being linked to prominent political figures that stood to make a financial gain by their installation.
Wait for some other device that can detect bombs in a cavity in the body next that just happens to have a present or ex politician as CEO or some other top level position with the company.
Some alright parodies, but when it hits the level of the Ed Hightower parodies, then I'll be impressed. They are not all winners, but there are some gems in there.
Anecdotal? There has been many stories of people being massively over charged and the power companies coming back and saying that's not their problem. That is why their is a opt out program in California, because SO many people had issues with the meters and complained to their representatives that the state house there forced PG&E to have a opt out program. If it was a glitch and it was corrected, that's one thing, but this was a power company that didn't want to admit the glitch because it favored them and not the customer. You think if those meters were reading to low that the power company would write that off as "it is what it is"? Hell no. They would most likely extrapolate some amount, higher then your normal bill of course, and charge you accordingly.
If you want to live in a fantasy land where you think utility companies would never screw over the customer, fine, but don't try to pedal your propaganda on me. In 25 years of dealing with them I can say without a doubt that they look out for themselves and no one else.
You missed the key to the last sentence, home energy meters. There are many stories of people getting hit with bill as much as 10 times higher after a smart meter is hooked in to a home. The power company does nothing to explain it other then telling the people to pay their bill or go without electricity. Read one story of a 900 sq. ft. home getting charged $1000+ for a month after the smart meter was hooked up when the average electric bill was $128 for years and years. The Power company sad that's what it was, yet sent more techs then you can shake a stick at to "investigate" the meter. The lady said one day they had 3 different tech look at the meter. When they questioned why so many techs if the meter was operating properly, they said it was just a routine visit to make sure all thinks where functioning properly. After 3 months of high bill her costs mysteriously when back down, but is still $100 higher then normal. I am sure the power company likes using a unlicensed band because they can use that as a out if they ever get sued for overcharging. California already has a opt out law for smart meters, but the power companies have a charge for it.
Any who think it's ok for the TSA to do the most insanely stupid things all because "it makes us safer" needs to watch Are we safer? from the show Frontline.
Watch that and tell me we need all this over-reactionary BS that we have. God forbid we profile anyone. No, the TSA uses 95 year old diapered women as a media event to prove the TSA is "Politically correct".
Yep and he stands to make a profit regardless of what make it is. He sells Dyson, but if you ask him, he'll suggest another brand that has a lower price and is better in terms of performance. He does this because he want a little thing call "consumer trust". He doesn't want to sell a vacuum that cost too much and people will be unhappy with, then go elsewhere next time they need a vacuum. Maybe you can go back to your dad and have him teach you about customer loyalty.
Well guys, I know of 2 vacuum cleaner stores in my area that sell new and used vacuum cleaner. The owners of both have told me that the Dyson is nothing more then a marketing gimmick and that there are better vacuums out there for cheaper. I know 5 people that washed their Dyson religiously and still after 4 or so years of use, suction in the up right mode is WAY less then cheaper competitors brands.
Also where are you buying your bags and why are you changing them 20+ times a year? I get 5 bags for 5 bucks. Even if I changed the bag every month (which it is hardly full enough in a month with vacuuming often), I'd buy 3 packages of bag a year at a cost of 15 dollars. That's a far cry from 250 to 500 you seem to be exaggerating about. Add to that I rarely have to clean the thing to get awesome power, makes me want my 15+ year old vacuum cleaner even more then a cleaner I have to wash after every use to maintain it's performance and even then it's not going to maintain it's original suction.
Where in the hell do you live? On Antarctica?? Target, Wal-mart, Kmart, and Best Buy all have EXTENSIVE collections of Music and even in the small town I live in we have a used music (cd/lp/ep) store. The used stores even have new items and can order things not in stock. I also have a barnes and noble about 7 miles away that I am pretty certain will not be going anywhere considering the line I have to wait in every time I am there.
As far as renting a movie, thank Blockbuster and their pursuit to have 3 stores in every possible location they can and charge too much, certainly in overage fees, for the reason there are not as much retail location to rent movies. People who watched a lot of movies and supported these places got sick of being over charged, jumped on the lower prices Netflix offered with more flexibility as far as time to watch a movie, while not getting charged more then the movie is worth. Add Redbox to the equation and it's no wonder the location happy Blockbuster, that drove locally owned place out of business, is now loosing location after location.
Is that why companies like Jen air and Viking are not popular at all? They seem to be selling well. The problem is that our society has been fed the marketing ploy that buying cheap things that break more often and cost more in the end is ok. In the past people saved up for big ticket items for their homes and bought things of quality. That's why I have a aunt that has a 60 year old fridge in her garage in the Northern Midwest that still works.
It's amazes me that some people continue to buy the cheap items over and over and over while complaining about their quality or performance, but yet will fall for commercials from manufacturers that claim higher quality at a price. That is why even a company like Dyson with their perceived higher quality due to marketing can sell vacuum cleaner for $400 and fans for $300, even when a person can buy certain other manufacturers home equipment or commercial grade equipment at a lower price and have better quality. Buyers have the tools to inform themselves, but not as many do as should. Most times it's the "I don't have time" excuse, but then they have time for other things much less important in their lives. It's a matter of finding the time if you care really care about quality and where your money is going.
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Is there such a amount of refrigerators just lying around that there is a need for this machine?
I recently replaced my fridge. My trash pick-up will take fridges as long as you call them 36 hour in advance. I called, then put the fridge with door off at the curb the night before. It was there all of 15 minutes before the scrap guys the comb my area got it and took it away. There is money to be made off them in the form of recycled metals and reclaiming the refrigerant left in them. Most times when you have a working fridge, it's no problem to get rid of it to someone else who needed it. The replacement programs give about 10 to 50 buck for a running fridge. More times then not a fridge is worth more to sell to someone or even get the scrap from them then it is to turn in for the cash back. In the end those companies could stand to make 5 or 6 times that amount off of turned in fridges.
Mod up parent! I didn't read it till I saw your post. Typical of people to go on and on here on slashdot without RTFA.
Sounds like he was exonerated in the minds of people that agree with him. To bad we have people that want to point political fingers and not look at all things in a unbiased, reasonable manner.
DSL from AT&T here are very quirky. A buddy has one that gets close to 20% better then advertised, yet a business I do support for that is a half mile away struggles to get 50% of the listed speeds. Funny thing is that the business is susposedly closer to the telco then my buddy. I know there are many factors, but AT&T has supposedly "tested" all the lines and says its' all "ok". I always take that with a large grain of salt, because I have found AT&T likes to find a excuse and stick to it till you prove them wrong. It usually takes threats of dropping service to get them to actually do something, much like when their equipment goes bad and they want you to pay $80 for a cheesy DSL modem.
Organizations like the WHO and CDC do seem to overstate the problems quite a bit to, so it's not just the media. They get the info from the CDC and WHO, then add another level of spin to it. But the WHO and CDC do take the over reactionary route most times. That is why you see people in china and Japan wearing face masks.
It's more of a case of the boy that cried wolf. People hear these threats of a new pandemic over and over, yet they don't materialize. After awhile, people get desensitized to it and tend not to trust the reports anymore. The fault isn't all on the media, as scientists and doctors could stress at what level they think whatever new strain is at. The ones affiliated with the CDC and WHO are the worst at this, as they create a world wide panic without positive proof that these diseases could reach a pandemic level. They'd rather push a vaccination that a lot of times isn't the correct one for the diseases which adds to the level of distrust for these organizations and the media.
Sort of. The sysop usually would have people who used the BBS they OPerated be sysadmins of certain parts of the BBS. That didn't mean that the sysop didn't do any administration though, as most times it was the sysop that created or ok'ed new accounts and gave permissions. Maintain the BBS for the most part came down to the sysop also. Sysadmins were really akin to moderators on forums now.
Gee really? I mean the fact that we can go outside in the summer, we are not under water and the only reason oil prices are high is because of greed kind of tells me that a lot of people got a lot of thinks wrong. Hell, in the early 90's some wanted us all to believe we would all be dead. Nothing is ever accomplished using the Henny Penny method of FUD to try and change people. Truth is worth more in changing peoples minds.
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Well it's better then methane audio, that just sounds like shit!
If war was pleasant it would be called a debate.
So the US government is the only government killing innocent people every day? Not that it makes any of it right, but you seem to want to paint a picture where it's only the US doing this. Truth is, the US is even close to being number one in this category by a long shot.
I am sure politicians look at a little more then a accuracy number in picking these systems. More like "My friend Mr. X own Y company that makes this software that "we" can make ZZZ million dollars off of." The politician then goes in front of whoever, cooks the numbers in favor of approval, then takes a position with the company as a "consultant" at a cost of 1.2 million a year. He then pays off people like the idiot lady in the story do sing praises for the system and spread FUD in a effort to justify the software. "Well yeah, it gave a million false positives, but we stopped a person from driving because of a failure to yield the right of way and made $200 on it to justify our $150 million dollar expense."
Ah yes that is the same sound I recall when Luke rode across Tatooine, a extremely loud helicopter sound!
Silly rabbit, those were not about safety. Those were about money and companies that got the contract to install them being linked to prominent political figures that stood to make a financial gain by their installation.
Wait for some other device that can detect bombs in a cavity in the body next that just happens to have a present or ex politician as CEO or some other top level position with the company.
The TSA tested suppositories and came to the conclusion that for all they did they would have been better off shoving them up their ass.
Some alright parodies, but when it hits the level of the Ed Hightower parodies, then I'll be impressed. They are not all winners, but there are some gems in there.
And it's old to. Saw it a couple days ago. In slash dot days that's 4 or 5 years old!
I don't always buy games, but when I do, I buy from publishers that are not idiots. Stay thirsty amigos
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Anecdotal? There has been many stories of people being massively over charged and the power companies coming back and saying that's not their problem. That is why their is a opt out program in California, because SO many people had issues with the meters and complained to their representatives that the state house there forced PG&E to have a opt out program. If it was a glitch and it was corrected, that's one thing, but this was a power company that didn't want to admit the glitch because it favored them and not the customer. You think if those meters were reading to low that the power company would write that off as "it is what it is"? Hell no. They would most likely extrapolate some amount, higher then your normal bill of course, and charge you accordingly.
If you want to live in a fantasy land where you think utility companies would never screw over the customer, fine, but don't try to pedal your propaganda on me. In 25 years of dealing with them I can say without a doubt that they look out for themselves and no one else.
You missed the key to the last sentence, home energy meters. There are many stories of people getting hit with bill as much as 10 times higher after a smart meter is hooked in to a home. The power company does nothing to explain it other then telling the people to pay their bill or go without electricity. Read one story of a 900 sq. ft. home getting charged $1000+ for a month after the smart meter was hooked up when the average electric bill was $128 for years and years. The Power company sad that's what it was, yet sent more techs then you can shake a stick at to "investigate" the meter. The lady said one day they had 3 different tech look at the meter. When they questioned why so many techs if the meter was operating properly, they said it was just a routine visit to make sure all thinks where functioning properly. After 3 months of high bill her costs mysteriously when back down, but is still $100 higher then normal. I am sure the power company likes using a unlicensed band because they can use that as a out if they ever get sued for overcharging. California already has a opt out law for smart meters, but the power companies have a charge for it.
Any who think it's ok for the TSA to do the most insanely stupid things all because "it makes us safer" needs to watch Are we safer? from the show Frontline.
Watch that and tell me we need all this over-reactionary BS that we have. God forbid we profile anyone. No, the TSA uses 95 year old diapered women as a media event to prove the TSA is "Politically correct".
Yep and he stands to make a profit regardless of what make it is. He sells Dyson, but if you ask him, he'll suggest another brand that has a lower price and is better in terms of performance. He does this because he want a little thing call "consumer trust". He doesn't want to sell a vacuum that cost too much and people will be unhappy with, then go elsewhere next time they need a vacuum. Maybe you can go back to your dad and have him teach you about customer loyalty.
Well guys, I know of 2 vacuum cleaner stores in my area that sell new and used vacuum cleaner. The owners of both have told me that the Dyson is nothing more then a marketing gimmick and that there are better vacuums out there for cheaper. I know 5 people that washed their Dyson religiously and still after 4 or so years of use, suction in the up right mode is WAY less then cheaper competitors brands.
Also where are you buying your bags and why are you changing them 20+ times a year? I get 5 bags for 5 bucks. Even if I changed the bag every month (which it is hardly full enough in a month with vacuuming often), I'd buy 3 packages of bag a year at a cost of 15 dollars. That's a far cry from 250 to 500 you seem to be exaggerating about. Add to that I rarely have to clean the thing to get awesome power, makes me want my 15+ year old vacuum cleaner even more then a cleaner I have to wash after every use to maintain it's performance and even then it's not going to maintain it's original suction.
Where in the hell do you live? On Antarctica?? Target, Wal-mart, Kmart, and Best Buy all have EXTENSIVE collections of Music and even in the small town I live in we have a used music (cd/lp/ep) store. The used stores even have new items and can order things not in stock. I also have a barnes and noble about 7 miles away that I am pretty certain will not be going anywhere considering the line I have to wait in every time I am there.
As far as renting a movie, thank Blockbuster and their pursuit to have 3 stores in every possible location they can and charge too much, certainly in overage fees, for the reason there are not as much retail location to rent movies. People who watched a lot of movies and supported these places got sick of being over charged, jumped on the lower prices Netflix offered with more flexibility as far as time to watch a movie, while not getting charged more then the movie is worth. Add Redbox to the equation and it's no wonder the location happy Blockbuster, that drove locally owned place out of business, is now loosing location after location.
That's what I was thinking. National archives ring any bells with this guy??
Also to be a true "back-up" shouldn't there be 3 locations each with a paper book edition to be a true back-up?
Is that why companies like Jen air and Viking are not popular at all? They seem to be selling well. The problem is that our society has been fed the marketing ploy that buying cheap things that break more often and cost more in the end is ok. In the past people saved up for big ticket items for their homes and bought things of quality. That's why I have a aunt that has a 60 year old fridge in her garage in the Northern Midwest that still works.
It's amazes me that some people continue to buy the cheap items over and over and over while complaining about their quality or performance, but yet will fall for commercials from manufacturers that claim higher quality at a price. That is why even a company like Dyson with their perceived higher quality due to marketing can sell vacuum cleaner for $400 and fans for $300, even when a person can buy certain other manufacturers home equipment or commercial grade equipment at a lower price and have better quality. Buyers have the tools to inform themselves, but not as many do as should. Most times it's the "I don't have time" excuse, but then they have time for other things much less important in their lives. It's a matter of finding the time if you care really care about quality and where your money is going.