I don't know what the GP defines as innovation, but change certainly isn't inherently innovative. You can make a lot changes that make an interface worse... like the timeline, which on investigation appears to me to be a jumbled mess with no real thought put into its layout.
Second sentence and you're already (at the very least) factually incorrect. The rest of your post is "I think it's wrong, and I can find people who agree with me, so it must be wrong", then some irrelevant comparisons to outlandish situations that have no relevance to two consenting adults wanting legal recognition for their union.
Have you got real studies that show that gay marriage is going to fuck up society forever? If not, what the fuck are you scared of?
Your Blackberry experience matches mine, but the settings menu for Androids is exactly the same across all models. Load the settings app, go to accounts and sync, then press add account. I don't know of an Android phone that doesn't have this exact series of buttons.
I was going to reply but this is absolutely spot on. Everyone is in up in arms claiming that Microsoft has something to hide - this is true, in the same way everyone else does. The patents are disclosed at the appropriate times to the appropriate people.
Yes, they are required to disclose them, which is what they do. If they have a licensing agreement, they disclose them to the people signing the agreement before they sign and before they pay anything. If they don't license them, they become public knowledge via court documents when they go to court.
Freely admit he got me hook line and sinker. I think there must be a certain length of post that makes people think "Sod it, I'll skip to the conclusion". However, it didn't work on my partner because he has to read everything out loud and is quite careful to read every line.
Even without the keyboard, I've barely put mine down in the months since I bought it. You might be better off trying to pick up the original on the cheap now that its successor is on the way - it's a good, solid piece of hardware and it can be rooted easily too.
Your first two points kinds are meaningless since people have fled FF for a UI exactly like the one that you claim is a reason that they left FF.
Actually, the way I see it is that people who stayed with Firefox stayed because of the way Firefox did things. So, by moving their UI and release schedules to a Chrome-like situation, why would people stay with Firefox? They've taken away everything that people stayed with Firefox for and made none of the performance improvements that Chrome brings to the table. They've basically made their browser into a crap version of Chrome.
If you're one of those Anonymous Cowards who can't put a name behind your beliefs, then your belief or opinion is worth nothing.
That opinion is worth nothing, because you're posting it behind a pseudonym. Where's the line between a worthwhile opinion and a worthless one on a website where barely anybody uses their real name?
I don't think that you can use Android for more than 5 or 10 minutes and think that it's only a minor difference from Apple. The way it works, flows and notifies is substantially different. Maybe if you hit the apps menu and then only looked at that for hours on end, you could be mistaken for getting confused, but who does that?
Like I said above, Android builds on the foundations and nobody would pretend that it's not inspired by Apple's efforts. But to claim that it's only slavish copying kowtows to Apple's legal speak and completely avoids making a serious effort to make your own conclusion on the matter.
Actually, my point is rather that the post is factually incorrect, nothing else. It wasn't a prototype before the iPhone, it was after.
Google were agile enough at the time to recognise that what they came up with, which was a response to the popularity at the time of Blackberry devices, was not going to wash when the iPhone became popular. Yes, you're quite right, Android then modified it's designs to be closer to what became popular later, but as Steve Jobs said, you should always be shameless about stealing great ideas. I feel it's a testament to what the iPhone came up with that people wanted to produce something similar.
However, similar isn't patentable, ideas aren't patentable, and I don't think Apple should now (having admitted that they steal great ideas) go on a legal rampage about the fact that they are respected enough to be imitated. If their phones are good, let them sell on their merits and get shitty about carbon copies, not companies inspired by their products and who want to build on the foundations they laid.
You have to go a long way from features such as that (and without soundlike a "hindsight is 20/20" kind of person I'm not convinced that without Apple that the innovations mentioned wouldn't have come in on their own, e.g. the proximity sensor seems like an obvious way of removing the problem of accidentally touching the screen with your face) to calling Android a "stolen product", though.
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I don't know what the GP defines as innovation, but change certainly isn't inherently innovative. You can make a lot changes that make an interface worse... like the timeline, which on investigation appears to me to be a jumbled mess with no real thought put into its layout.
Once you legally redefine the word marriage
Second sentence and you're already (at the very least) factually incorrect. The rest of your post is "I think it's wrong, and I can find people who agree with me, so it must be wrong", then some irrelevant comparisons to outlandish situations that have no relevance to two consenting adults wanting legal recognition for their union.
Have you got real studies that show that gay marriage is going to fuck up society forever? If not, what the fuck are you scared of?
Is the "Sense of Humour" option on your iPhone switched off too?
Your Blackberry experience matches mine, but the settings menu for Androids is exactly the same across all models. Load the settings app, go to accounts and sync, then press add account. I don't know of an Android phone that doesn't have this exact series of buttons.
If you weren't such a fucking idiot, you'd know that Apple didn't start this patent mess, they just responded to suits against them, by Nokia et al...
They responded to suits against them by Nokia, by suing HTC and Samsung? Wow, that's a legal strategy and a half.
Tell GP that. Apparently using all that RAM is the Worst Thing Ever(tm).
I was going to reply but this is absolutely spot on. Everyone is in up in arms claiming that Microsoft has something to hide - this is true, in the same way everyone else does. The patents are disclosed at the appropriate times to the appropriate people.
Yes, they are required to disclose them, which is what they do. If they have a licensing agreement, they disclose them to the people signing the agreement before they sign and before they pay anything. If they don't license them, they become public knowledge via court documents when they go to court.
There's no evidence that yours is, either.
Playing devil's advocate, but if my employers advanced me some money, then they'd take it out of the next paycheck. How is this different?
To be fair, there's plenty free ways of shoring that up, and another few professional solutions that don't cost you the difference.
Replying to myself, I should read articles more thoroughly - it was revealed this year.
Carry on!
Seems true, but also five years ago... Not saying that it's not bad, just that it's not exactly a 2011 news story.
Freely admit he got me hook line and sinker. I think there must be a certain length of post that makes people think "Sod it, I'll skip to the conclusion". However, it didn't work on my partner because he has to read everything out loud and is quite careful to read every line.
What?! A person with varying opinions that we can't easily pigeonhole? Fuck, we can't have this - release the hounds!
QR Droid (and I think Google Goggles) do show you the URL before you go there, at least on my Sensation.
Even without the keyboard, I've barely put mine down in the months since I bought it. You might be better off trying to pick up the original on the cheap now that its successor is on the way - it's a good, solid piece of hardware and it can be rooted easily too.
Your first two points kinds are meaningless since people have fled FF for a UI exactly like the one that you claim is a reason that they left FF.
Actually, the way I see it is that people who stayed with Firefox stayed because of the way Firefox did things. So, by moving their UI and release schedules to a Chrome-like situation, why would people stay with Firefox? They've taken away everything that people stayed with Firefox for and made none of the performance improvements that Chrome brings to the table. They've basically made their browser into a crap version of Chrome.
If you're one of those Anonymous Cowards who can't put a name behind your beliefs, then your belief or opinion is worth nothing.
That opinion is worth nothing, because you're posting it behind a pseudonym. Where's the line between a worthwhile opinion and a worthless one on a website where barely anybody uses their real name?
Actually, if you just add up Samsung now they're not in the lead any more, in shipments or market share.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15489523
I don't think that you can use Android for more than 5 or 10 minutes and think that it's only a minor difference from Apple. The way it works, flows and notifies is substantially different. Maybe if you hit the apps menu and then only looked at that for hours on end, you could be mistaken for getting confused, but who does that?
Like I said above, Android builds on the foundations and nobody would pretend that it's not inspired by Apple's efforts. But to claim that it's only slavish copying kowtows to Apple's legal speak and completely avoids making a serious effort to make your own conclusion on the matter.
Actually, my point is rather that the post is factually incorrect, nothing else. It wasn't a prototype before the iPhone, it was after.
Google were agile enough at the time to recognise that what they came up with, which was a response to the popularity at the time of Blackberry devices, was not going to wash when the iPhone became popular. Yes, you're quite right, Android then modified it's designs to be closer to what became popular later, but as Steve Jobs said, you should always be shameless about stealing great ideas. I feel it's a testament to what the iPhone came up with that people wanted to produce something similar.
However, similar isn't patentable, ideas aren't patentable, and I don't think Apple should now (having admitted that they steal great ideas) go on a legal rampage about the fact that they are respected enough to be imitated. If their phones are good, let them sell on their merits and get shitty about carbon copies, not companies inspired by their products and who want to build on the foundations they laid.
Date of that article: December 17, 2007
Date of iPhone release: June 29, 2007
I see that article thrown around a lot but nobody checks the dates.
You have to go a long way from features such as that (and without soundlike a "hindsight is 20/20" kind of person I'm not convinced that without Apple that the innovations mentioned wouldn't have come in on their own, e.g. the proximity sensor seems like an obvious way of removing the problem of accidentally touching the screen with your face) to calling Android a "stolen product", though.