YOU may not care much about adobe software, but any industry involving some sort of design work is reliant upon it. Every video game, movie, music video, tv show or commercial you see is made with adobe software. This is a major issue if any sort of linux distro wants to see widespread adoption.
I hate the Lord of the Rings movies. Hate. They're visually stunning, I'll give them that. Though, thats as far as I go. I read the books years before the movies came out, and to put it mildly, together they are a literary masterpiece. A literary masterpiece that Peter Jackson completely fucked up and shat upon within the first five minutes of HIS Fellowship of The Ring movie (by explaining who and what Sauron was and why the one ring was so important). Oh, and in The Two Towers, please show me where the fuck it is mentioned that the Enemy had access to gun powder for a fucking bomb. Horse Shit! But these movies are paraded around as the "best ever" simply because they were based of something much greater, paying almost no attention to the actual quality of the movies. I wonder how many "fans" ( by which i mean fan-boys, or posers, or both ) of LOTR out there haven't even glanced at the books? If you have read the books, you would find the movies a very nice visual component to what you already know as LOTR, that is all. To claim these movies as anything more than that is a travesty, and a racial fucking slur against Tolkien's own work. Fuck Peter Jackson. Fuck his movies. My point is, the author of this post is assuming that Hollywood cares anything about the content off which they're basing ANY of their movies. Nine times out of ten, the only thing Hollywood cares about is making a movie that will make them money, as cheaply as possible. Movies based off anything, a book, a real event... a video game, all they offer Hollywood is an existing fan base that might automatically buy a ticket. Consider the Watchmen movie; horrid. They raped Hell Blazer like a Chinese finger trap, calling it "Constintine". Fight Club is the only movie i can think of that was better than the book ( yes, fuck the book is what I said ). SO, why in the HELL would you think Hollywood would treat video game based movies any differently? The most I think they would ever do is prevent Uwe Boll from directing them.
Ok, so the Universe is ~14 Billion years old. SO, from where we sit, the maximum distance of our "sight" is 14 Billion light years in any direction. Thinking about this abstractly, we sit at the center of a bubble in space (essentially, the entire universe, or at least what we can see of it), 28 billion light years across. Now consider that the farther away an object is from us, the "older" it is, relative to us, due to the speed of light being finite. SO, we sort of ARE at the center of the Universe, surrounded by the big bang (creation) in every direction. I would be surprised if this isn't one of those nut ball's arguments.
Yeah, there is no black and white. No good guys and bad guys. Only shades of gray. How many people were killed in the nuclear blasts? Like 100,000+? Most of them civilians. War is what is evil, not the enemy.
Yeah, they can vote, but how does that negate the responsibility of all of the other US citizens? "Any soldier worth his salt should be anti-war." -Norman Schwarzkopf (CENTCOM commander during the first gulf war).
Really, and what real-world actual experience do you have on the matter? Or are you just going off of what someone may have told you, or what you saw on television. What a nice fantasy THAT is.
The only people who "enjoy" killing are the ones who've tricked themselves into thinking they enjoy in, in order to carry out whatever disgustingly horrible tasks they're given. Either that, or their sick and derranged. Just because you're a soldier, like I said, it doesn't mean that you are no longer a human being. Saying that the entire US Army enjoys killing people, and alluding to these people they enjoy killing being civilians is indicative of the speaker not wholly understanding the subject their discussing.
I joined the army 2 months after planes flew into buildings. A war in Iraq wasn't even being talked about on the news yet. Signing up for the service didn't have anything to do with anything other than volunteering to put myself in harms way for the rest of the country. That same story goes for a lot of people, especially now, with how very apparent that danger is on television every day. In any case, soldiers don't chose where and which battles to fight. Politicians do. And, speaking from experience, politics don't matter much when you're receiving incoming artillery or something like that. Soldiers carry out the missions YOU as the public chose for them (by casting votes on election day). So don't ever be so short sighted as to blame the horrible shitty messes soldiers are put into by other, third parties, on the soldiers themselves. Now, speaking of being shortsighted, I'm not so much that that I don't realize that there is no black and white when it comes to reality, only shades of gray. If you think there is, you're fooling yourself. The is no such fucking thing as "bad guys", ok? When people are put in positions of having to use deadly force, or having deadly force used against them, they tend to dehumanize the opposition. Hence, throughout every war the American armed forces have become involved in, service members have come up with nick names or slurs for the enemy ("krauts", "reds", "slopes", "gooks" and now "haajis" for our current wars). More than just terms of endearment created out of anger and violence, these terms serve to de-humanize the enemy. You know why? Because it is near impossible to organize a fighting force with the rationale that "We're going to go over here and shoot to death all these *people*". Because the fighting force that is going to kill all of those *people* happen to be *people* too, and the act of killing *people* is a fucking horrible thing to do. Now, imagine all the vets coming back from... wherever. The vets that had hand grenades thrown at them by "little abu-dabbi mother fuckers", or, as you and I may call them, "children", and in response these vets had to "open fire" on the "little abu-dabbi mother fuckers", to keep from being killed. You can't. You can't imagine anything like that. You may think you can, because you've seen some sort of bullshit on CNN or FOX news or whatever, but you're wrong. You don't know shit about it, and neither does some asshead at some game studio. These fucking bullshit games that are "based in reality" are only about shit than never fucking happened. The entire Idea of putting "real life" war scenarios into video games is like turning the bombing of an abortion clinic into a fucking cartoon show, and then feeding it to children.
I joined the army 2 months after planes flew into buildings. A war in Iraq wasn't even being talked about on the news yet. Signing up for the service didn't have anything to do with anything other than volunteering to put myself in harms way for the rest of the country. That same story goes for a lot of people, especially now, with how very apparent that danger is on television every day. In any case, soldiers don't chose where and which battles to fight. Politicians do. And, speaking from experience, politics don't matter much when you're receiving incoming artillery or something like that. Soldiers carry out the missions YOU as the public chose for them (by casting votes on election day). So don't ever be so short sighted as to blame the horrible shitty messes soldiers are put into by other, third parties, on the soldiers themselves. Now, speaking of being shortsighted, I'm not so much that that I don't realize that there is no black and white when it comes to reality, only shades of gray. If you think there is, you're fooling yourself. The is no such fucking thing as "bad guys", ok? When people are put in positions of having to use deadly force, or having deadly force used against them, they tend to dehumanize the opposition. Hence, throughout every war the American armed forces have become involved in, service members have come up with nick names or slurs for the enemy ("krauts", "reds", "slopes", "gooks" and now "haajis" for our current wars). More than just terms of endearment created out of anger and violence, these terms serve to de-humanize the enemy. You know why? Because it is near impossible to organize a fighting force with the rationale that "We're going to go over here and shoot to death all these *people*". Because the fighting force that is going to kill all of those *people* happen to be *people* too, and the act of killing *people* is a fucking horrible thing to do. Now, imagine all the vets coming back from... wherever. The vets that had hand grenades thrown at them by "little abu-dabbi mother fuckers", or, as you and I may call them, "children", and in response these vets had to "open fire" on the "little abu-dabbi mother fuckers", to keep from being killed. You can't. You can't imagine anything like that. You may think you can, because you've seen some sort of bullshit on CNN or FOX news or whatever, but you're wrong. You don't know shit about it, and neither does some asshead at some game studio. These fucking bullshit games that are "based in reality" are only about shit than never fucking happened. The entire Idea of putting "real life" war scenarios into video games is like turning the bombing of an abortion clinic into a fucking cartoon show, and then feeding it to children.
I don't think they really care too much about the $100 million.
They already have a devoted fan base, and they're tying the game to online play. Both of the factors will turn the cracked/paid ratio to their side.
And besides, they make something like $1.2 BILLION (with a B) a year off of WoW alone.
They wipe their asses with $100 Million.
If you really want something to talk about, how about Diablo III looking like some fucking cartoon. Whoever made that decision really needs to go die in a fire.
...I thought the coldest places in the solar system were the moons of Neptune. You know, how like they're much further away from the Sun than our moon, and how they're highly reflective. They have volcanoes of liquid nitrogen on those moons for pete's sake.
I think most of you aren't understanding exactly what it is that they are selling to these kids.
That's ok, I've found the war(s) to be a TV show to most people back here in the states. A movie of the week, at best.
If these people were selling crack-cocaine to kids through this video game, I wouldn't be half as bothered by it.
wow sound familiar.
our company HQ was right across the street from the anaconda PX during OIF1.
and i remember thinking most of the same things.
memories.
sigh.
Yeah, I know, I'm not arguing whether video games are bad for children. In my opinion they aren't. I also realize that every child with access to a computer has that access via the consent of an adult, direct or otherwise.
What I'm arguing is that a recruitment tool in the guise of a game is immoral.
We had our fair share of conscientious objectors as well. This didn't get them out of the war zone, it just got the bolts take out of their rifles. Congratulations, you are no longer able to defend yourself.
And like I said, I made phones work. We weren't the special forces.
The recruitment tool that worked for me.... hmm... being bored to tears in college... and planes flying into buildings (that happened in September, I signed up in December). I wanted some adventure. I was young and still stupid enough to think that America's foreign policy might actually do the world some good. Not going to get too political now, but rest assured I don't feel the same way now.
Of course they didn't spend time "drilling the horror of war" while recruiting me. That was my point, recruiters are *supposed* to blind potential recruits with "glory" and "action" and shit like that. A joke is that another name for Army recruiters is "liar." Nothing really wrong with all of this I think, it is how you get people to join the Army after all.
Now, normally I would apply the same thought process to Americas Army, the video game. But I run into a moral conundrum when doing so, because Americas Army is just that, A VIDEO GAME. And who plays video games? Children play video games.
If you, as a legal adult and the Army thinking that war would be anything like what you see in Americas Army (or any other video game for that matter), you are a dumb ass, and you deserve what you get. Either that, or mentally retarded in some way, shape or form. Darwinism at its finest.
On the other hand, children do not have the same cognitive ability as an adult, and therefore should not be held to the same standard. The act of killing people being a fun and relaxing experience in any situation, or being able to reset a match when you get shot in the face, are just bold-faced lies when told to children. This is because children will look at the game as being official, released by the Army itself (and who knows more about war than the Army?) AND THEY WILL BELIEVE IT.
My recruiter told me a story once about how he had been driving down the road in a particular Eastern-European, war-torn nation. The Humvee in front of his (they were of course driving in formation at the time) was unlucky enough to hit a landmine. "Scared the shit out of me" is the way I believe he put it. Other than that, he didn't go into too much detail as to how well (or not) the passengers of that ill-fated Humvee turned out. Now, in this situation, it wasn't really how much he did tell me about what happened as much as it was the expression on his face and the way in which he skirted around my questions that gave me a pretty good understanding of what it was like.
For myself, I don't think I realized what the hell had happened until a year or two AFTER I was out of the Army. There is no thinking about what is going on while you're actually there. No time to stop and say "what in the name of FUCK am I doing here?" Because doing things such as that are counter-productive in the long run, as there really isn't much you can do to get out of the situation anyway (until your time is up).
I hope this answered your questions, asshole.
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YOU may not care much about adobe software, but any industry involving some sort of design work is reliant upon it. Every video game, movie, music video, tv show or commercial you see is made with adobe software. This is a major issue if any sort of linux distro wants to see widespread adoption.
"devilry from Orthanc" and "blasting fire" DOES NOT EQUATE
He's ed wood reincarnate.
yeah, i bet you dressed up like a hobbit when you went to the movie before you even knew what one was. your nerd-fu is sub-par my friend.
I hate the Lord of the Rings movies. Hate. They're visually stunning, I'll give them that. Though, thats as far as I go. I read the books years before the movies came out, and to put it mildly, together they are a literary masterpiece. A literary masterpiece that Peter Jackson completely fucked up and shat upon within the first five minutes of HIS Fellowship of The Ring movie (by explaining who and what Sauron was and why the one ring was so important). Oh, and in The Two Towers, please show me where the fuck it is mentioned that the Enemy had access to gun powder for a fucking bomb. Horse Shit! But these movies are paraded around as the "best ever" simply because they were based of something much greater, paying almost no attention to the actual quality of the movies. I wonder how many "fans" ( by which i mean fan-boys, or posers, or both ) of LOTR out there haven't even glanced at the books? If you have read the books, you would find the movies a very nice visual component to what you already know as LOTR, that is all. To claim these movies as anything more than that is a travesty, and a racial fucking slur against Tolkien's own work. Fuck Peter Jackson. Fuck his movies. My point is, the author of this post is assuming that Hollywood cares anything about the content off which they're basing ANY of their movies. Nine times out of ten, the only thing Hollywood cares about is making a movie that will make them money, as cheaply as possible. Movies based off anything, a book, a real event... a video game, all they offer Hollywood is an existing fan base that might automatically buy a ticket. Consider the Watchmen movie; horrid. They raped Hell Blazer like a Chinese finger trap, calling it "Constintine". Fight Club is the only movie i can think of that was better than the book ( yes, fuck the book is what I said ). SO, why in the HELL would you think Hollywood would treat video game based movies any differently? The most I think they would ever do is prevent Uwe Boll from directing them.
Ok, so the Universe is ~14 Billion years old. SO, from where we sit, the maximum distance of our "sight" is 14 Billion light years in any direction. Thinking about this abstractly, we sit at the center of a bubble in space (essentially, the entire universe, or at least what we can see of it), 28 billion light years across. Now consider that the farther away an object is from us, the "older" it is, relative to us, due to the speed of light being finite. SO, we sort of ARE at the center of the Universe, surrounded by the big bang (creation) in every direction. I would be surprised if this isn't one of those nut ball's arguments.
....why is this news? Great. Cube dudes. This isn't exactly awe inspiring.
Yeah, there is no black and white. No good guys and bad guys. Only shades of gray. How many people were killed in the nuclear blasts? Like 100,000+? Most of them civilians. War is what is evil, not the enemy.
Yeah, they can vote, but how does that negate the responsibility of all of the other US citizens? "Any soldier worth his salt should be anti-war." -Norman Schwarzkopf (CENTCOM commander during the first gulf war).
Really, and what real-world actual experience do you have on the matter? Or are you just going off of what someone may have told you, or what you saw on television. What a nice fantasy THAT is.
The only people who "enjoy" killing are the ones who've tricked themselves into thinking they enjoy in, in order to carry out whatever disgustingly horrible tasks they're given. Either that, or their sick and derranged. Just because you're a soldier, like I said, it doesn't mean that you are no longer a human being. Saying that the entire US Army enjoys killing people, and alluding to these people they enjoy killing being civilians is indicative of the speaker not wholly understanding the subject their discussing.
I joined the army 2 months after planes flew into buildings. A war in Iraq wasn't even being talked about on the news yet. Signing up for the service didn't have anything to do with anything other than volunteering to put myself in harms way for the rest of the country. That same story goes for a lot of people, especially now, with how very apparent that danger is on television every day. In any case, soldiers don't chose where and which battles to fight. Politicians do. And, speaking from experience, politics don't matter much when you're receiving incoming artillery or something like that. Soldiers carry out the missions YOU as the public chose for them (by casting votes on election day). So don't ever be so short sighted as to blame the horrible shitty messes soldiers are put into by other, third parties, on the soldiers themselves. Now, speaking of being shortsighted, I'm not so much that that I don't realize that there is no black and white when it comes to reality, only shades of gray. If you think there is, you're fooling yourself. The is no such fucking thing as "bad guys", ok? When people are put in positions of having to use deadly force, or having deadly force used against them, they tend to dehumanize the opposition. Hence, throughout every war the American armed forces have become involved in, service members have come up with nick names or slurs for the enemy ("krauts", "reds", "slopes", "gooks" and now "haajis" for our current wars). More than just terms of endearment created out of anger and violence, these terms serve to de-humanize the enemy. You know why? Because it is near impossible to organize a fighting force with the rationale that "We're going to go over here and shoot to death all these *people*". Because the fighting force that is going to kill all of those *people* happen to be *people* too, and the act of killing *people* is a fucking horrible thing to do. Now, imagine all the vets coming back from... wherever. The vets that had hand grenades thrown at them by "little abu-dabbi mother fuckers", or, as you and I may call them, "children", and in response these vets had to "open fire" on the "little abu-dabbi mother fuckers", to keep from being killed. You can't. You can't imagine anything like that. You may think you can, because you've seen some sort of bullshit on CNN or FOX news or whatever, but you're wrong. You don't know shit about it, and neither does some asshead at some game studio. These fucking bullshit games that are "based in reality" are only about shit than never fucking happened. The entire Idea of putting "real life" war scenarios into video games is like turning the bombing of an abortion clinic into a fucking cartoon show, and then feeding it to children.
I joined the army 2 months after planes flew into buildings. A war in Iraq wasn't even being talked about on the news yet. Signing up for the service didn't have anything to do with anything other than volunteering to put myself in harms way for the rest of the country. That same story goes for a lot of people, especially now, with how very apparent that danger is on television every day. In any case, soldiers don't chose where and which battles to fight. Politicians do. And, speaking from experience, politics don't matter much when you're receiving incoming artillery or something like that. Soldiers carry out the missions YOU as the public chose for them (by casting votes on election day). So don't ever be so short sighted as to blame the horrible shitty messes soldiers are put into by other, third parties, on the soldiers themselves. Now, speaking of being shortsighted, I'm not so much that that I don't realize that there is no black and white when it comes to reality, only shades of gray. If you think there is, you're fooling yourself. The is no such fucking thing as "bad guys", ok? When people are put in positions of having to use deadly force, or having deadly force used against them, they tend to dehumanize the opposition. Hence, throughout every war the American armed forces have become involved in, service members have come up with nick names or slurs for the enemy ("krauts", "reds", "slopes", "gooks" and now "haajis" for our current wars). More than just terms of endearment created out of anger and violence, these terms serve to de-humanize the enemy. You know why? Because it is near impossible to organize a fighting force with the rationale that "We're going to go over here and shoot to death all these *people*". Because the fighting force that is going to kill all of those *people* happen to be *people* too, and the act of killing *people* is a fucking horrible thing to do. Now, imagine all the vets coming back from... wherever. The vets that had hand grenades thrown at them by "little abu-dabbi mother fuckers", or, as you and I may call them, "children", and in response these vets had to "open fire" on the "little abu-dabbi mother fuckers", to keep from being killed. You can't. You can't imagine anything like that. You may think you can, because you've seen some sort of bullshit on CNN or FOX news or whatever, but you're wrong. You don't know shit about it, and neither does some asshead at some game studio. These fucking bullshit games that are "based in reality" are only about shit than never fucking happened. The entire Idea of putting "real life" war scenarios into video games is like turning the bombing of an abortion clinic into a fucking cartoon show, and then feeding it to children.
I don't think they really care too much about the $100 million. They already have a devoted fan base, and they're tying the game to online play. Both of the factors will turn the cracked/paid ratio to their side. And besides, they make something like $1.2 BILLION (with a B) a year off of WoW alone. They wipe their asses with $100 Million. If you really want something to talk about, how about Diablo III looking like some fucking cartoon. Whoever made that decision really needs to go die in a fire.
dude for cereal. please tell me you don't wrok for urilift. that would be taking shameless self promotion to a new level.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Its their company, and they'll shoot it in the foot if they want to.
omni and directional antennas. i suppose a satellite could take over, but that seems sort of retarded to me.
...I thought the coldest places in the solar system were the moons of Neptune. You know, how like they're much further away from the Sun than our moon, and how they're highly reflective. They have volcanoes of liquid nitrogen on those moons for pete's sake.
Avatars "look" where the mouse is pointing. He was probably just clicking buttons on the UI.
Their names are "TootToot", "WootWoot" and "S3xB0vin3"
I think most of you aren't understanding exactly what it is that they are selling to these kids. That's ok, I've found the war(s) to be a TV show to most people back here in the states. A movie of the week, at best. If these people were selling crack-cocaine to kids through this video game, I wouldn't be half as bothered by it.
wow sound familiar. our company HQ was right across the street from the anaconda PX during OIF1. and i remember thinking most of the same things. memories. sigh.
Yeah, I know, I'm not arguing whether video games are bad for children. In my opinion they aren't. I also realize that every child with access to a computer has that access via the consent of an adult, direct or otherwise. What I'm arguing is that a recruitment tool in the guise of a game is immoral. We had our fair share of conscientious objectors as well. This didn't get them out of the war zone, it just got the bolts take out of their rifles. Congratulations, you are no longer able to defend yourself. And like I said, I made phones work. We weren't the special forces.
And because of this fact children don't play video games? And like this game isn't aimed directly at them?
The recruitment tool that worked for me.... hmm... being bored to tears in college... and planes flying into buildings (that happened in September, I signed up in December). I wanted some adventure. I was young and still stupid enough to think that America's foreign policy might actually do the world some good. Not going to get too political now, but rest assured I don't feel the same way now. Of course they didn't spend time "drilling the horror of war" while recruiting me. That was my point, recruiters are *supposed* to blind potential recruits with "glory" and "action" and shit like that. A joke is that another name for Army recruiters is "liar." Nothing really wrong with all of this I think, it is how you get people to join the Army after all. Now, normally I would apply the same thought process to Americas Army, the video game. But I run into a moral conundrum when doing so, because Americas Army is just that, A VIDEO GAME. And who plays video games? Children play video games. If you, as a legal adult and the Army thinking that war would be anything like what you see in Americas Army (or any other video game for that matter), you are a dumb ass, and you deserve what you get. Either that, or mentally retarded in some way, shape or form. Darwinism at its finest. On the other hand, children do not have the same cognitive ability as an adult, and therefore should not be held to the same standard. The act of killing people being a fun and relaxing experience in any situation, or being able to reset a match when you get shot in the face, are just bold-faced lies when told to children. This is because children will look at the game as being official, released by the Army itself (and who knows more about war than the Army?) AND THEY WILL BELIEVE IT. My recruiter told me a story once about how he had been driving down the road in a particular Eastern-European, war-torn nation. The Humvee in front of his (they were of course driving in formation at the time) was unlucky enough to hit a landmine. "Scared the shit out of me" is the way I believe he put it. Other than that, he didn't go into too much detail as to how well (or not) the passengers of that ill-fated Humvee turned out. Now, in this situation, it wasn't really how much he did tell me about what happened as much as it was the expression on his face and the way in which he skirted around my questions that gave me a pretty good understanding of what it was like. For myself, I don't think I realized what the hell had happened until a year or two AFTER I was out of the Army. There is no thinking about what is going on while you're actually there. No time to stop and say "what in the name of FUCK am I doing here?" Because doing things such as that are counter-productive in the long run, as there really isn't much you can do to get out of the situation anyway (until your time is up). I hope this answered your questions, asshole. -Reed