A large part of the great success of the US comes directly from freedom to practice religion - many immigrants came here from Russia, England, Germany because they were persecuted for their beliefs. The only way to accomplish what the original poster wished for, a "god-less" US, would be to establish a prosecution that would make the ss and kgb look like a boy scout troup. There are *many* free worshippers here, and nothing short of a Stalanist purge will change that.
The problem many of the contemporary faithful have is with the increasing involvement of government in our daily lives, which cannot promote this or that particular religious expression since it is funded from the taxes of all (we cannot allow nativity scenes on public town squares paid for by taxes confiscated from practicing Muslims, for example).
ANY religous practice handed down from generations ago teaches peace, compassion and civility, manners, morals and ethics toward fellow citizens, and there are those who seek the commanality of beliefs of all faiths, and other who exaggerate the differences and end up wanting to slaughter aliens cultures they just don't understand.
Reducing humanity to a herd of biological cattle you can feed into effecient scientific slaughterhouses whenever they get too numerous is about the worst of all possible views of humanity.
OpenBSD is tightly controlled by a madman, thus should be avoided.
Heck, the same could be said about Windows.
Anyway, I've installed OBSD on an old PC for an Internet gateway / firewall and have been nothing but happy. It's small (downloads quick), robust, secure. Power failures? Reboots automatically and continues w/ no problem, it has required 0 maintenance (other than, for example, checking authlog and changing ssh port for all the ssh scanners out there recently). It VPN's to a Linksys box, has dyndns client, and much, much more.
IF you want to see Gary Kildall on TV goto www.archive.org and download some 80's era episodes of "Computer Chronicles" where he was often guest host - lots of other interesting guests too, like Bill Joy, Elizabeth Rather, etc.
Speaking of which - does anybody remember an online comic strip called "Suzy Wong"? It was definitely online back in 1996 before Hong Kong reverted back to China from the UK in 1997. Now it's gone without a trace, can't find ANYTHING about it, like it never existed at all. It was a neat comic strip.
Yes they did, lakes with CO2 saturated water at the bottom that release it suddenly asphyxiating thousands in the area. link here. Pretty bizarre event.
They also had a sign in the office that anybody could put text on from a browser, with a camera showing what was on it at the moment. I used to post signs telling them to hurry up with Netscape with Java for Linux!
Sure, Linux can work fine as a business desktop for those who want to use it as such. What about the working stiff's in the accounting / secretarial pool that could care less, know enough Windows 2K/XP to get the job done and would need a 2 week special high intensity training course for dummies to learn where all their new tools are? These are people who would rather be fishing or watching the soaps, secretly despise having to work at all in an office, dream of winning the lottery, and resist change or having to learn something different, worry about being able to transfer these skills to other offices that are likely Windows based, etc.
That's kind of a paradox - the kernel is definitely of value to me because it makes my x86 hardware perform useful function, streaming audio servers, radio receiver controllers, development platform, etc. But it's the very fact that it's 1) open code, and 2) freely available as downloadable ISO's that makes it preferable to Msft with their customer controls and marketing BS. It might be more accurate to say the kernel is worth nothing in monitary units to Linus since he's not collecting a royalty from each user deriving utility from each installation like BillG & Co. do for Windows. However Linus could be collecting other intangible benefits like fame, satisfaction of creation, etc. But's it's definitly worth something to me, and would pay a fee if it wasn't freely available. Just not a King's ransom.
5 years ago the public seemed to be whipped up to an irrational froth over Y2K (when everything electronical was going to fail and WE MUST DO SOMETHING), but now that there are continued risks of, say, accidentally publishing defense docs on p2p networks or being compromised by trojans, why are they suddenly stupid and complacent?
There is some 70's stuff by ELO with backwards lyrics in it. There's an obvious backwards mask in 'Fire on High' that says "The music is reversible, but time isn't. Turn back, turn back, turn back!"
1) Listening to Internet audio about the house (wirelessly)with 802.11b and headphones 2) Listening to a shortwave radio 3) Using a web browser to control item #2 4) Running an Atari 8 bit emulator to play games like "Kennedy Approach" or Chess 2000 while in the waiting room 5) Pocket Calculator, scientific 6) Notes in the field (push putton, talk) 7) Address book, phone numbers 8) Passwords (the entire unit is passwd protected in case of loss or theft) 9) Alarms and reminders - e.g., I put lanudry in the washer and schedule an alarm 18 minutes later when I need to add fabric softener 10) Browsing slashdot and ebay (albeit awkwardly) when relaxing on the porch listening to #1 or 2 11) ssh into my machines for simple operations and log checks 12) Calendar for appointments with reminders - in fact it just went off to remind me of a radio program on in 10 minutes. Gotta go.
Especially if they still have those little Mfst license stickers on the case - I have several old machines like that running PC *nix. It's like rescuing delinquent youth from a life of street crime and giving them an education and honest, meaningful employment.
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our favorite. It's all in the water. That's why it's yellow!
A large part of the great success of the US comes directly from freedom to practice religion - many immigrants came here from Russia, England, Germany because they were persecuted for their beliefs. The only way to accomplish what the original poster wished for, a "god-less" US, would be to establish a prosecution that would make the ss and kgb look like a boy scout troup. There are *many* free worshippers here, and nothing short of a Stalanist purge will change that.
The problem many of the contemporary faithful have is with the increasing involvement of government in our daily lives, which cannot promote this or that particular religious expression since it is funded from the taxes of all (we cannot allow nativity scenes on public town squares paid for by taxes confiscated from practicing Muslims, for example).
ANY religous practice handed down from generations ago teaches peace, compassion and civility, manners, morals and ethics toward fellow citizens, and there are those who seek the commanality of beliefs of all faiths, and other who exaggerate the differences and end up wanting to slaughter aliens cultures they just don't understand.
Reducing humanity to a herd of biological cattle you can feed into effecient scientific slaughterhouses whenever they get too numerous is about the worst of all possible views of humanity.
If they'd change it to Allahzilla, the monster that attacks New York, they'd be onto something.
Sure, look what it did for the formerly officially atheist Soviet Union. No problem at all.
Scientific socialism to the rescue!
Sure, why not.
Pictures are an invitation to disaster
you mean like this ?
OpenBSD is tightly controlled by a madman, thus should be avoided.
Heck, the same could be said about Windows.
Anyway, I've installed OBSD on an old PC for an Internet gateway / firewall and have been nothing but happy. It's small (downloads quick), robust, secure. Power failures? Reboots automatically and continues w/ no problem, it has required 0 maintenance (other than, for example, checking authlog and changing ssh port for all the ssh scanners out there recently). It VPN's to a Linksys box, has dyndns client, and much, much more.
IF you want to see Gary Kildall on TV goto www.archive.org and download some 80's era episodes of "Computer Chronicles" where he was often guest host - lots of other interesting guests too, like Bill Joy, Elizabeth Rather, etc.
goog up 2 bucks on the news
Nevermind - it was Lily Wong ;)
Memory error.
Speaking of which - does anybody remember an online comic strip called "Suzy Wong"? It was definitely online back in 1996 before Hong Kong reverted back to China from the UK in 1997. Now it's gone without a trace, can't find ANYTHING about it, like it never existed at all. It was a neat comic strip.
(this has already happened in Africa, I believe)
Yes they did, lakes with CO2 saturated water at the bottom that release it suddenly asphyxiating thousands in the area. link here. Pretty bizarre event.
Otherwise known as "old boy networks" that actually exist, for better or worse.
They also had a sign in the office that anybody could put text on from a browser, with a camera showing what was on it at the moment. I used to post signs telling them to hurry up with Netscape with Java for Linux!
make it 3 tons of Vodka and I'll go.
Sure, Linux can work fine as a business desktop for those who want to use it as such. What about the working stiff's in the accounting / secretarial pool that could care less, know enough Windows 2K/XP to get the job done and would need a 2 week special high intensity training course for dummies to learn where all their new tools are? These are people who would rather be fishing or watching the soaps, secretly despise having to work at all in an office, dream of winning the lottery, and resist change or having to learn something different, worry about being able to transfer these skills to other offices that are likely Windows based, etc.
Just playing Bill's advocate here.
That's kind of a paradox - the kernel is definitely of value to me because it makes my x86 hardware perform useful function, streaming audio servers, radio receiver controllers, development platform, etc. But it's the very fact that it's 1) open code, and 2) freely available as downloadable ISO's that makes it preferable to Msft with their customer controls and marketing BS. It might be more accurate to say the kernel is worth nothing in monitary units to Linus since he's not collecting a royalty from each user deriving utility from each installation like BillG & Co. do for Windows. However Linus could be collecting other intangible benefits like fame, satisfaction of creation, etc. But's it's definitly worth something to me, and would pay a fee if it wasn't freely available. Just not a King's ransom.
Silly boy - we need anti-matter weapons to secure mid-east oil supplies.
As msft attempts to steal the iPod paradigm, just like they did the graphical desktop, lan, internetworking, etc.
In other news, What A Msft Ho
5 years ago the public seemed to be whipped up to an irrational froth over Y2K (when everything electronical was going to fail and WE MUST DO SOMETHING), but now that there are continued risks of, say, accidentally publishing defense docs on p2p networks or being compromised by trojans, why are they suddenly stupid and complacent?
Almost as many as the number of stupid 7-11 etc clerks that will except the copies.
;))
You mean like this one
1. Music player: either Winampaq or Mortplayer.
;)
Just a brief suggestion, GSPlayer
does http streaming mp3/ogg. No need for huge local storage, does shoutcast etc. Free, take it or leave it
There is some 70's stuff by ELO with backwards lyrics in it. There's an obvious backwards mask in 'Fire on High' that says "The music is reversible, but time isn't. Turn back, turn back, turn back!"
I use my ipqa 1945 for:
1) Listening to Internet audio about the house (wirelessly)with 802.11b and headphones
2) Listening to a shortwave radio
3) Using a web browser to control item #2
4) Running an Atari 8 bit emulator to play games like "Kennedy Approach" or Chess 2000 while in the waiting room
5) Pocket Calculator, scientific
6) Notes in the field (push putton, talk)
7) Address book, phone numbers
8) Passwords (the entire unit is passwd protected in case of loss or theft)
9) Alarms and reminders - e.g., I put lanudry in the washer and schedule an alarm 18 minutes later when I need to add fabric softener
10) Browsing slashdot and ebay (albeit awkwardly) when relaxing on the porch listening to #1 or 2
11) ssh into my machines for simple operations and log checks
12) Calendar for appointments with reminders - in fact it just went off to remind me of a radio program on in 10 minutes. Gotta go.
Especially if they still have those little Mfst license stickers on the case - I have several old machines like that running PC *nix. It's like rescuing delinquent youth from a life of street crime and giving them an education and honest, meaningful employment.