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2004 Ig Nobel Prizes Announced

ancice writes "The 2004 Ig Nobel prizes are out. Article by New Scientist. An 'invisible gorilla has scooped the 2004 Ig Nobel Prize for Psychology'. And 'dropped food is safe to eat if it has spent no more than five seconds on the floor' - Public Health. Finally, there's proof for the 5 second rule! And for Engineering, 'Patenting of the combover'. Official page with ceremony and lectures."

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  1. Proper definition/clarification of 5-second rule by stecoop · · Score: 5, Funny

    The 5-second rule - if food product should land on the ground and if the dog doesn't eat said food product in 5 seconds than you can have it.

    In conjunction with:
    Read your town charter, boy. `If food stuffs should touch the ground, said food stuffs shall be turned over to the village idiot.' Since I don't see him around, start shoveling! - Homer.

  2. Shurely shome mishtake ? by Space+cowboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not to be pedantic about the poster's phrasing, but I would have though the proof went *against* the five-second rule (although this is the first I've heard of such a rule - up until now I've always thought of food on the floor as being garbage-fodder... Catching it in mid-fall is the thing to do, thus managing to foil the buttered-toast rule :-)

    For me, the Coca Cola one is the most amazing one - there was a UK sitcom called 'Only Fools And Horses' about an East-London wide-boy ("Del-boy") and family, often hilarious, especially where 'Trigger' was concerned :-) One of Del's wheezes was to bottle the 'Peckham Spring' (IIRC) which of course was tapwater and sell to health-farm freaks - he couldn't believe people would pay *that* much for water :-)

    The fact that Coca Cola thought they could get away with for real makes me wonder what *other* "Del-boy" schemes have been put into practice!

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    1. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by ericspinder · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The fact that Coca Cola thought they could get away with [selling bottled water] for real
      I drink bottled water often, in particular, when I am out on the road. It's nearly impossible to find a public water fountain these days, and besides I wouldn't trust my health to most of them. For the most part, they are just decent well filtered tap water. Some are true 'spring water', with the 'minerals' intact, but most try to come close to just pure H2O.

      However, It does amaze me that some people buy the stuff by the case for their home, and/or the most expensive brand (it's just packaged water, damn it!). Nearly everyone can get the same quality water from home with the right filtration process.

      While sometimes over used by some people, pure packaged water makes a fine product and I believe that wherever you see a soda can vended you should have the opportunity to purchase the most important thing that humans need, clean fresh water.

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    2. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The fact that Coca Cola thought they could get away with for real makes me wonder what *other* "Del-boy" schemes have been put into practice!
      Coca-Cola and Pepsi are "getting away with this for real".

      Both of them sell bottled tap water under their respective brand names world-wide.

      Aquafina == Pepsi municipal tap water
      Dasani == Coke municipal tap water

      So I guess people shouldn't complain that I let my dog drink out of the toilet - she's getting the same stuff you're paying a buck a bottle for.

    3. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by JDevers · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yea, it's always amazed me that people will pay MORE (sometimes the water costs the same, but a lot of the times it is more) for Coca-Cola or Pepsi WITHOUT the flavoring, coloring, carbonation, sugar, etc added to it...basically just the water.

    4. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Yea, it's always amazed me that people will pay MORE (sometimes the water costs the same, but a lot of the times it is more) for Coca-Cola or Pepsi WITHOUT the flavoring, coloring, carbonation, sugar, etc added to it...basically just the water.
      Especially since beer is cheaper.
    5. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
      For the most part, they are just decent well filtered tap water. Some are true 'spring water', with the 'minerals' intact, but most try to come close to just pure H2O.

      I think that may be true in the US, but in the European Union water that calls itself `Natural Mineral Water' has to come from an accredited spring. Most of the big brands such as Evian, Vittel, Perrier, San Pellegrino, etc. fall into this category. There'a a long tradition of spas with putative health benefits, and no doubt the legislation exists to protect these brands.

      On the other hand, `Pure' or `Spring' water are unprotected terms and can indeed be nothing more than tap water - these are typically somewhat cheaper. However, Dasani is priced at the same level as mineral water. Many people in Europe seem to think it's worth paying a premium for water that comes from a special `natural' source, but I don't see Dasani making much headway at the same price.

    6. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by jfengel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Totally pure H2O actually tastes surprisingly bad. It doesn't taste like anything at all, and that feels really weird, even if you're just used to tap water (as opposed to mineral water that they're deliberately flavoring).

      Most brands do tweak the mineral content a bit to tinker with the flavor, though far less than something labeled "mineral water".

      Personally, I drink a lot of tap water, and I'm always faintly embarrassed when I want something to drink on the road and have to run into a 7-11 to buy water. It's slightly more cost-effective to buy a Hyper Gulp filled with water instead of soda, but I kinda like the sports bottle caps, and I like the flavor of Dasani.

      It's a ripoff, cosmically speaking, but it's more healthful than buying soda.

    7. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Durrr...

      Unless you live in a major metropolis the water that comes out of your tap has far fewer impurities than the bottled stuff.

      I've had my water tested for nitrates and coliform (mandatory for every new well). Guess what standards the bottling companies are held up to for water? That's right: none.

    8. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by goodydot · · Score: 5, Informative

      I have heard from three different dentists that the rate of cavities in adults is climbing, and they attributed it to increased consumption of bottled water over tap water. They tell me this is because tap water generally contains flouride, while bottled water does not. Additionally, my friend working at Boston Water and Sewer drinks his tap water over bottled water, because tap water is subject to far more rigorous testing than is bottled water.

    9. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always love it when someone drinking a $1.25 pint of water complains about the $2.00/gallon price of gas.

    10. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by Ba3r · · Score: 1

      Except when its a monopolized commodity, like at any ClearChannel hot and dusty concert.. where dirty municipal water x is at least 5 bucks a bottle

    11. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by ill+dillettante · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I agree that very pure water (Mill-Q) tastes unusual, but I wouldn't say it tastes bad. I drink it at work all the time (one of the "benefits" of being a scientist). The best way to describe how it tastes is like air- you know that you have put something wet in your mouth, but it doesn't seem heavy enough to be a liquid.

      I have always thought there would be a market for it - at least would taste different to all the other bottle waters.

    12. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by sfjoe · · Score: 1

      Guess what standards the bottling companies are held up to for water? That's right: none.

      That's not entirely true. They are held to the standard of, "we have to improve our profits next quarter".
      Hey - we can save money by using old underwear to filter the water. Ka-ching!!!

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    13. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Penn and Teller have a show on Showtime called Bullshit! that they debunk a lot of myths such as psychics, firewalking, crap like that. They had a segment on bottled water where they debunked a lot of the marketing hype about bottled water. (Nonscientific) blind taste tests were done and the result was people prefered New York City tap water to bottled water. Chemical analysis showed tap water to be cleaner. They showed the "natural springs" the water came from were processing facilities in the industrial district of Van Nuys, CA and Dallas, TX. They then set up a fake water steward at an upscale NYC restaurant and he pushed Amazon rain forest water. It was a water bottle with this huge spider in it that they filled from a hose in the back of the restaurant. People were paying $25 for this spider water and loving it. If anybody can watch this show and still believe the marketing hype they deserve to lose their money on the bottled water scam.

    14. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...people shouldn't complain that I let my dog drink out of the toilet - Only when she gets too friendly!

    15. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by boa13 · · Score: 1

      What about attributing the increase to the massive quantity of sugars ingested by adults nowadays?

    16. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by darkmeridian · · Score: 1

      I worked in a research lab with an ionized water source. I drank a lot of the water, thinking I was pulling a great stunt. Absolutely pure water sucks. It has no taste, and it burns just a little because it is so pure that the osmosis does weird things.

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    17. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I like the flavor of Dasani.
      its funny, i really like the flavor of Danani too. My girlfriend informed me that CocaCola adds a small amount of salt or sodium(not sure which) in with the minerals to not only enhance taste, but dehyrdrate you slightly so you'll buy more Dasani
      In any case, it does taste better than other bottled waters for some inexplicable reason.
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    18. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by Idarubicin · · Score: 1
      I have always thought there would be a market for it - at least would taste different to all the other bottle waters.

      Gee, I've never gotten around to trying it. I'll have to pour myself a beaker this afternoon. :)

      On the other hand, have you seen what it does when you put it in a container that's covered with scale? (Calcium carbonate reside, mostly, from hard water.) It's a very good solvent for those minerals--just sucks them right off the glass. It's a great way to remove scale from a coffeepot. Heavy encrustations may require more than one dose. Its other benefit for cleaning cookware is that you know it's nontoxic.

      I don't have data to back this, but I'd be a little concerned about consuming large quantities of this stuff on a regular basis--I wonder if it might demineralize the teeth. As far as I can tell, nobody has any data either way, which suggests that it probably is pretty harmless.

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    19. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by marsu_k · · Score: 1
      It's always amazed me that people are willing to dring flavoring, coloring, carbonation, sugar, chemical additives, etc. and rot their teeth/spoil their waistline, when there's perfectly good and tasty water available. But that's just me I guess.

      (Actually I don't buy bottled water myself, as amazing as it may sound there are countries where tap water is perfectly drinkable and very tasty even, and if I want to I can take the ~2km hike to the nearest spring. But I realize this is not possible in every country.)

    20. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by espressojim · · Score: 1

      Of course, being a fellow Boston citizen, you probably live in an older house. And you're aware that those houses (unless you've rebuilt them from scratch) have very old plumbing systems. These plumbing systems greatly increase the amount of garbage you find in your drinking water. One of the apartments I was leasing a few years ago had a significant amount of lead in the water comming out of the pipes.

      If I was working with your friend, I might drink the water at his job, but once it had traveled to my house and been contaiminated, I'd want to avoid it without some kind of secondary purification system.

      That said, investing in a Britta or Pur system renders the water safe and palatable enough for my tastes.

    21. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The fact that Coca Cola thought they could get away with [selling bottled water] for real

      That's what happens when you get a monopoly (or duopoly in the coke/pepsi case) selling your beverages. In other places, when it became a true monopoly water water became so expensive the poor couldn't afford it

    22. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm not sure if this is local to France or European but there are three major terms :

      - "spring" water is *very* heavily monitored and has some very stringent restrictions on it's composition. Notably on included minerals. Very few springs actually qualify. You can drink this water daily without trouble.

      - "mineral" water is also monitored but without the restrictions on composition, therefore there *might* be too much sodium (or fluoride, or whatever) for regular consumption. Most waters fall into this category. You are supposed to read the label and to know what the limits of each mineral is for a healthy diet (although even if you overdo it you typically won't die because of mineral water, although some can be quite salty).

      - "purified" water is any kind of water that has been mechanically and chemically purified.

      All three kinds can be carbonated, the gas may or may not be originally present at the spring (the label normally says so).

      In conclusion, people here buy a lot of bottled water for an obscure reason, I only buy carbonated water (because it isn't available on tap). The amount spent in advertising by water companies is astounding.

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    23. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by JDevers · · Score: 1

      I wasn't touting the benefits of sugary water, I was simply stating the economics of the situation of how people are willing to pay MORE for LESS. Personally I very rarely drink soda type drinks either, I'm a 75% tap water 25% tea kind of guy.

    24. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by joshmccormack · · Score: 1

      Our pediatrician told us to give our infant daughter tap water, rather than bottled or filtered water. Enough chlorine and flouride, not as much bacteria as can be present in water pitchers sitting around.

    25. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      I'm surprised that Coke hasn't messed this up yet with New Dansai and Dansai Classic.

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    26. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by wankledot · · Score: 1
      I have yet to see bottled water for more than soda. Generally soda is $1.29 for 20oz, water is .99, $1.59 for a 1L soda bottle, and $1.29 for water. If anything it's the same, I have not seen it ever cost more.

      Those prices are for Dasani/Aquafina, Evian and the other froo froo brands might be more.

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    27. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by shotfeel · · Score: 1

      Hmmm. I was always told that you should not drink the Milli-Q water.

      IIRC the problem is really that it doesn't have enough impurities -causing an outrageously huge osmotic pressure difference when you drink it. Think of the huge driving force for water aborption into, and also salt extraction from, the cells lining the stomach. Picture the cells swelling lika a balloon and popping.

      That's why even "normal" water is best consumed slowly.

      My solution is to just make more coffee.

    28. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by shotfeel · · Score: 1

      I guess since 7 Up used to advertise as the "Un-Cola", this just takes it a little further. Now its the "Un-Sweetened, Un-flavored, Un-Cola" (with added salt).

      Unbelievable.

    29. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by glyph42 · · Score: 1

      The minerals are not there to dehydrate you! If you drank 100% pure H2O, with absolutely 0 ppm dissolved salts, you will end up with a hypotonic situation. Your cells will experience some discomfort, and in the extreme case, possible hemolysis. In short, your cells will freak out if you dilute your blood too much.

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    30. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      Not in Europe. Dasani was a total flop. Nobody bought it. I've never seen Aquafina, presumably pepsi aren't stupid enough to try it.

    31. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by Twisted+Grind · · Score: 1

      Interesting price quotes...especially when I usually see 2L bottles of Pepsi/Coke/etc. for $.99 and 3L bottles of offbrand stuff for $.79 (this is common to both east coast and west coast shops). I try to avoid sodas as a personal preference, but whenever I'm out and about and I need something to drink, I will ALWAYS buy soda over bottled water just because of the price. Hell, often times 100% fruit juices will be cheaper than the bottled water. Bottled water is really nothing but a status symbol, having very little benefit otherwise.

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    32. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by wankledot · · Score: 1
      That's true, you can get 2L of Coke cheaper than 1L in most cases. at 7-11, a 1L is almost always going to be $1.39 to $1.59, but there are frequent sales on 2L bottles for $.99 at grocery stores.

      Odd, but true. Mostly due to distribution costs I'm sure.

      I have a hard time believing that juice is ever less than bottled water. You can not buy 1L of juice for 99.

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    33. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Interesting


      Additionally, my friend working at Boston Water and Sewer drinks his tap water over bottled water, because tap water is subject to far more rigorous testing than is bottled water.


      This was covered in an episode of Penn & Tellers "Bullshit!", and at least according to them your friend is essentially correct. While bottled water is regulated, it's regulated by the FDA which has less than one guy dedicated to enforcement/monitoring. Tap water is closely monitored and each city has to issue reports on water quality annually.

      Nevertheless I still prefer filtering my water because I don't like the taste of chlorine, and there's always the unknown factor of lead leached from the pipes inside your house. The risk is probbably low on the leached lead, but filters are still pretty cheap.

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    34. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by PacoTaco · · Score: 1

      Their regular products are basically a scam too. The gross margin on a can of flavored sugar water is enormous.

    35. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by smithmc · · Score: 1

      Additionally, my friend working at Boston Water and Sewer drinks his tap water over bottled water, because tap water is subject to far more rigorous testing than is bottled water.

      Hasn't he ever heard the song that goes "...and I love that dirty water, uh! Boston, you're my home!"? If you want good tap water, come to my neck o' the woods (do a text find on "Huntington"). Lawn Guyland: not only do we have big hair, gospel secretaries gone bad, an Audi in every other driveway, and the gated, guarded summer homes of the big stars, but we've got award-winning tap water, too!

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    36. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by MonkeyCookie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Especially since beer is cheaper.

      This is especially true in Germany, where good beer is often significantly cheaper than bottled water or soft drinks.

      When in a restaurant there, I would often order beer because it was the cheapest drink on the menu. I actually like ordinary tap water, but often asking for water there gets you carbonated water, which I do not like at all. You have to actually specify that you want tap water (Leitungswasser), but sometimes they still don't seem to get it.

      For some reason, Germans think tap water is somehow bad for you. Coming from California, I'm telling you their tap water is *really* good. It isn't chlorinated (which makes water taste really nasty) so I never felt any need to buy bottled water, unless I was away from home traveling.

    37. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by lavaface · · Score: 1

      As an American alcoholic, let me say "Dude, where are these vending machines you speak of?"

    38. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by cbr2702 · · Score: 1
      Additionally, my friend working at Boston Water and Sewer drinks his tap water over bottled water, because tap water is subject to far more rigorous testing than is bottled water.

      Hasn't he ever heard the song that goes "...and I love that dirty water, uh! Boston, you're my home!"?

      The song is talking about how dirty the Charles River is, while Boston gets its water from Quabbin Reservoir in western Mass.

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    39. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by stanmann · · Score: 1

      Gallons of water( which is what we are approaching with 2/3L bottles) usually run $.39-$.69 depending on brand and location ... most I've seen was a gas station at 1.19.

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  3. Text in case of Slashdotting.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The 2004 Ig Nobel Prize Winners

    The 2004 Ig Nobel Prizes were awarded on Thursday evening, September 30, at the 14th First Annual Ig Nobel Prize Ceremony, at Harvard's Sanders Theatre.

    MEDICINE
    Steven Stack of Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan, USA and James Gundlach of Auburn University, Auburn, Alabama, USA, for their published report "The Effect of Country Music on Suicide."
    PUBLISHED IN: Social Forces, vol. 71, no. 1, September 1992, pp. 211-8.
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: James Gundlach.

    PHYSICS
    Ramesh Balasubramaniam of the University of Ottowa, and Michael Turvey of the University of Connecticut and Yale University, for exploring and explaining the dynamics of hula-hooping.
    REFERENCE: "Coordination Modes in the Multisegmental Dynamics of Hula Hooping," Ramesh Balasubramaniam and Michael T. Turvey, Biological Cybernetics, vol. 90, no. 3, March 2004, pp. 176-90.
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Ramesh Balasubramaniam and Michael Turvey.

    PUBLIC HEALTH
    Jillian Clarke of the Chicago High School for Agricultural Sciences, and then Howard University, for investigating the scientific validity of the Five-Second Rule about whether it's safe to eat food that's been dropped on the floor.
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Jillian Clarke

    CHEMISTRY
    The Coca-Cola Company of Great Britain, for using advanced technology to convert liquid from the River Thames into Dasani, a transparent form of water, which for precautionary reasons has been made unavailable to consumers.

    ENGINEERING
    Donald J. Smith and his father, the late Frank J. Smith, of Orlando Florida, USA, for patenting the combover (U.S. Patent #4,022,227).
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Donald Smith's son, Scott Jackson Smith, and daughter, Heather Smith.

    LITERATURE
    The American Nudist Research Library of Kissimmee, Florida, USA, for preserving nudist history so that everyone can see it.
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Pamela Chestek, the daughter of ANRL director Helen Fisher.

    PSYCHOLOGY
    Daniel Simons of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and Christopher Chabris of Harvard University, for demonstrating that when people pay close attention to something, it's all too easy to overlook anything else -- even a man in a gorilla suit.
    REFERENCE: "Gorillas in Our Midst," Daniel J. Simons and Christopher F. Chabris, vol. 28, Perception, 1999, pages 1059-74.
    DEMO:
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Daniel Simons and Christopher Chabris.

    ECONOMICS
    The Vatican, for outsourcing prayers to India.

    PEACE
    Daisuke Inoue of Hyogo, Japan, for inventing karaoke, thereby providing an entirely new way for people to learn to tolerate each other
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Daisuke Inoue.

    BIOLOGY
    Ben Wilson of the University of British Columbia, Lawrence Dill of Simon Fraser University [Canada], Robert Batty of the Scottish Association for Marine Science, Magnus Whalberg of the University of Aarhus [Denmark], and Hakan Westerberg of Sweden's National Board of Fisheries, for showing that herrings apparently communicate by farting.
    REFERENCE: "Sounds Produced by Herring (Clupea harengus) Bubble Release," Magnus Wahlberg and Håkan Westerberg, Aquatic Living Resources, vol. 16, 2003, pp. 271-5.
    REFERENCE: "Pacific and Atlantic Herring Produce Burst Pulse Sounds," Ben Wilson, Robert S. Batty and Lawrence M. Dill, Biology Letters, vol. 271, 2003, pp. S95-S97.
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Lawrence Dill, Robert Batty, Magnus Whalberg, Hakan Westerberg.

    1. Re:Text in case of Slashdotting.. by Mxyzptlk · · Score: 2, Funny
      PSYCHOLOGY
      Daniel Simons of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and Christopher Chabris of Harvard University, for demonstrating that when people pay close attention to something, it's all too easy to overlook anything else -- even a man in a gorilla suit.
      REFERENCE: "Gorillas in Our Midst," Daniel J. Simons and Christopher F. Chabris, vol. 28, Perception, 1999, pages 1059-74.
      DEMO:
      WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Daniel Simons and Christopher Chabris

      Yeah yeah, but if you closely observed who attended, you could see that it was not Simons and Chabris. In fact, it was Sigourney Weaver, who thought the award was for "Gorillas in the mist"!
    2. Re:Text in case of Slashdotting.. by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ben Wilson of the University of British Columbia, Lawrence Dill of Simon Fraser University [Canada], Robert Batty of the Scottish Association for Marine Science, Magnus Whalberg of the University of Aarhus [Denmark], and Hakan Westerberg of Sweden's National Board of Fisheries, for showing that herrings apparently communicate by farting.

      Please, not 'farting' - I believe the correct term is 'fast, repetitive ticks' (or, um, 'FRTs').

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    3. Re:Text in case of Slashdotting.. by gnalre · · Score: 4, Informative

      CHEMISTRY
      The Coca-Cola Company of Great Britain, for using advanced technology to convert liquid from the River Thames into Dasani, a transparent form of water, which for precautionary reasons has been made unavailable to consumers


      Actually I think what they mean is Thames Water which is a public water company. Many water from the river thames drinkable while no means impossible would demand some plaudits.

      What they actually did was take public tap water meeting EU regulations, filter it and in the process add harmful impurities which were not in the original product.

      Oh yes then sell it at a vast mark up..

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    4. Re:Text in case of Slashdotting.. by asoko · · Score: 1

      And it takes perfect observation skills to notice that the person in the gorilla suit was actually a woman (Don't believe me? Look again!)

    5. Re:Text in case of Slashdotting.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Many water from the river thames drinkable while no means impossible would demand some plaudits.

      WHAT???

      Have you been drinking River Thames water again?

    6. Re:Text in case of Slashdotting.. by jc42 · · Score: 1

      I believe the correct term is 'fast, repetitive ticks' (or, um, 'FRTs')

      Actually, it's "fast, anal, repetetive ticks" (FARTs).

      It's possible that the fish could be producing those ticks with other parts of their bodies. The significant discovery was that the ticks were produced anally.

      Scientists sometimes come up with really wonderful observations.

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  4. 5 seconds on the floor? by MrRTFM · · Score: 4, Funny

    What if it lands in dogshit?

    Is there a formula to work out the exact 'safe time' based on what food lands on when it falls?

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    1. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by savagedome · · Score: 5, Funny

      What if it lands in dogshit?

      There might be some common sense involved in that decision.

    2. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by StevenHenderson · · Score: 0
      What if it lands in dogshit?

      Then enjoy the great taste! Yum!

    3. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by magefile · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I used to have the sig, "If you think common sense is common, your sample size is too small". I think that applies here ...

    4. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by canoe_head · · Score: 3, Funny

      There might be some common sense involved in that decision. True, however we are talking about someone who has dog shit on his floor.

    5. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by StevenHenderson · · Score: 0

      LOL - Very true. He might want to clean that up next time BEFORE he makes his grilled cheese or whatever...

    6. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by EvilCowzGoMoo · · Score: 1
      Is there a formula to work out the exact 'safe time' based on what food lands on when it falls?

      Yes! There is! But by the time your done calculating the food is unsafe to eat anyway. (or the dog has already eaten it first.)

    7. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if it lands in dogshit?

      Is there a formula to work out the exact 'safe time' based on what food lands on when it falls?


      The excrement would be on the floor longer than five seconds. If you attempt to eat it -- thus treating it as food -- you have to take that time into account. This is the same as if you dropped a piece of food on the floor and decided to eat one of the floorboards in five seconds -- it doesn't count.

      Presumably, if the dog pooped at the precise instant you dropped your food, it would still be safe for five seconds since it is the floor that is the contagion, not the dogshit.

    8. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It should be obvious by common sense that if you drop something on the floor and the floor is clean enough, it'll be safe to eat it regardless of whether the dropped food was on the floor for less than 5 seconds or more (as long as it hasn't been there for hours), and if the floor isn't clean enough...it'll be unsafe if the food ever made contact with the floor, regardless of how long it was there.

      I've never heard of the five second rule, and find it really difficult to believe that anyone would actually take it seriously.

    9. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by Oddly_Drac · · Score: 1

      "What if it lands in dogshit?"

      You do know what E. Coli actually is?

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    10. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 2, Funny

      What if it lands in dogshit?

      Why, pray tell, are you eating near dogshit?

    11. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by StalinsNotDead · · Score: 1

      He might want to clean that up next time BEFORE he makes his grilled cheese or whatever...

      Not necessarily. He might wait until he's done eating so as to not have to wash hands again. Or risk losing appetite from exposure to odor.

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    12. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of dog is it?

    13. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by Feanturi · · Score: 1

      What if it lands in dogshit?

      "It's just sprinkles, it's like sprinkles..."

    14. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by adeyadey · · Score: 1

      What if it lands in dogshit?

      Not a problem, just consider it extra protein & flavour..

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  5. What? Nothing for Diebold? by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 3, Funny

    For endeavouring to manufacture a machine implementing a method of establishing a tally of votes for public-office candidate without the usage of a paper-trail???

    1. Re:What? Nothing for Diebold? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Igs are explicitly apolitical. Besides which, the selection process is done months ahead of time.

  6. No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by Srass · · Score: 5, Informative
    I don't know where the poster got that, considering the article linked from the improb.com site says, in part:

    "The next step was sterilizing the tiles and inoculating them with E. coli, then placing 25 grams of cookies or gummies on the tiles for 5 seconds. In all cases, E. coli was transferred from the tile to the food, demonstrating that microorganisms can be transferred from ceramic tile to food in 5 seconds or less."


    1. Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by Destoo · · Score: 4, Funny
      "The next step was sterilizing the tiles and inoculating them with E. coli, then placing 25 grams of cookies or gummies on the tiles for 5 seconds. In all cases, E. coli was transferred from the tile to the food"


      There you go.
      It should be LESS THAN 5 seconds.
      4.99 seconds would have been good.

      5 was just too much.
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    2. Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by willpall · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That was under artificially contaminated conditions. Earlier in that article, the student mentioned with suprise that even high-traffic areas were fairly germ-free. In practice, this validates the 5 second rule for me. Just don't forget to blow it off to really make sure it's clean!

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    3. Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by stienman · · Score: 4, Informative

      I suppose you missed the part where they tested floors in many locations and found no bacteria or fungus.

      Therefore, they concluded, it is generally safe - not because transfer doesn't happen, but because we are fairly fanatical about keeping floors clean.

      -Adam

    4. Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by Srass · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, I caught that... I'm just paranoid enough that I'm not ready to consider floors on the U of I campus necessarily representative of all floors. Now, what'd be really interesting, to me, is testing for bacteria and fungus on the floors in the kitchens of various restaurants around the country -- where lots of food is prepared, and, from what I've heard, the five second rule comes into play anyway, valid or not.

    5. Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by gphinch · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, yes in a university lab where they have janitorial services daily I'm sure the floors are clean. I haven't mopped my floors at home in months. Go bachelorhood!

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    6. Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by kbielefe · · Score: 1

      If you really want to make sure it's clean, you have to lick it.

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    7. Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by shotfeel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Combining this with earlier articles I've read, one could conclude its safe to eat food dropped on the floor, but not on your desk. Of course, based on those stories, about the best place to accidently drop your food is on the toilet seat.

      A couple choice quotes from here.

      "Surprisingly, toilet seats consistently had the lowest bacteria levels of the 12 surfaces tested in the study."

      "We don't think twice about eating at our desks, even though the average desk has 100 times more bacteria than a kitchen table and 400 times more bacteria than the average toilet."

    8. Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by Frizzle+Fry · · Score: 1

      Ok, but that doesn't validate the 5 second rule. If most floors are very clean, then you could leave food a lot longer than 5 seconds and it would be fine. And on the contaminated floor, 5 seconds wasn't fast enough to avoid disease. So it looks like there is no scenario where the rule holds and it is important that you pick up your food within 5 seconds.

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  7. Good to see Coca Cola getting an award by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We brits loved the Dansai saga and I'm delighted to see that they got an award for it. It's a shame they didn't mention Peckham Spring, surely the inspiration behind the inovation!

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    1. Re:Good to see Coca Cola getting an award by _xeno_ · · Score: 1
      Ah, finally found an article about the Dasani Saga.

      I was kind of confused, because it's been well known (well, I've known for several years) that both Coke and Pepsi sell tap water for their bottled water. Of course, I also live one town over from the Pepsi bottling plant that serves the New England region.

      It makes logical sense - they need to have this filtered water to begin with anyway. All Dasani and Aquafina are is the base water the two companies start with for making all their beverages, plus some minerals for "taste."

      But it turns out that in the UK they also managed to add twice the legal limit of bromate, which is a carcinogen. I guess they wanted to hark back to the days when the Coca in Coca-Cola stood for Cocain.

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  8. Prior art on combover? by FerretFrottage · · Score: 5, Funny

    Didn't they find cave drawings of cavemen that used combovers? The difference being that the combover covered most of their entire bodies.

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  9. Winner by Tomahawk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    On Brainiac (on Sky ONE in the UK) last week, they did a demonstration of the 'Invisible Gorilla' expirement, which one.

    Basically, they had about 7 or 8 poeple on the screen, and told us to watch how many times a particular parcel was passed around.

    The answer was 12 (for anyone who wanted to know).

    During this time, someone dress in a bee suit walked onto the screen, stood there for about 10 seconds, and walked off the far side. The parcel even passed across this person.

    I didn't see the bee at all, until it was played back. The bee was on the screen for a full 20 seconds in total.

    It was quite amazing. Almost as good as trying to get your right foot to rotate clockwise, and your right hand to rotate anti-clockwise...

    T.

    1. Re:Winner by Tomahawk · · Score: 1

      er, that should read... ... demonstration of the 'Invisible Gorilla' expirement, which won.

      damn.

      T.

    2. Re:Winner by makomk · · Score: 1
      On Brainiac (on Sky ONE in the UK) last week, they did a demonstration of the 'Invisible Gorilla' expirement, which one.

      Brainiac is great for silly science. Sky One, 8PM, every Thursday. Watch it. (Not shown in America, AFAIK).

    3. Re:Winner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe that TIVO NETFILX deal will alow the USers to see it?

    4. Re:Winner by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 5, Funny
      I didn't see the bee at all, until it was played back. The bee was on the screen for a full 20 seconds in total.

      Reminds me of something from a certain radio series I listened to last night..
      The Somebody Else's Problem field is much simpler and more effective, and what's more can be run for over a hundred years on a single torch battery. This is because it relies on people's natural disposition not to see anything they don't want to, weren't expecting, or can't explain. If Effrafax had painted the mountain pink and erected a cheap and simple Somebody Else's Problem field on it, then people would have walked past the mountain, round it, even over it, and simply never have noticed that the thing was there.

      So, presumably to avoid detection, terrorists and other ne'r-do-wells should wear gorilla suits - invisibility is just too much effort. :-)
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    5. Re:Winner by Tomahawk · · Score: 3

      It is excellent, alright. One of their catchphrases is

      We do this so you don't have to

      They do fun stuff like blowing up cars, putting christmas tree lights into the microwave, testing package materials by wrapping up a TV and throwing it out the back of a van travelling at 50mph, demonstrating the properties on a dilatant compound by filling someone swimming pool with custard (you can walk in custard, just don't stand still or you'll sink and get stuck). Fun stuff like that.

      In this series, they also have 4 quite stunning women testing various explosives. Last week, they tested plastic explosive, by blowing up a fridge. And then you can give it marks out of 10!

      They also tested brown noise a few weeks ago - it worked!

      T.

    6. Re:Winner by Destoo · · Score: 1

      Brainiac is great for silly science. Sky One, 8PM, every Thursday. Watch it. (Not shown in America, AFAIK).

      Soon on a .torrent near you, pretty please?

      Thank you!

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    7. Re:Winner by Destoo · · Score: 1

      Hmm.. sounds a lot like "mythbusters" on discovery.

      Doing simple stuff like cooking steak with cocacola, and more expensive stuff like dropping crash test dummies from great heights in rivers, once with a hammer falling a few seconds before the dummy to "break the water", once without and seeing the result.

      Sorta like a TV-Snopes.

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    8. Re:Winner by BlowChunx · · Score: 1

      Just shot a glance at suprnova and there are some torrents posted already, but the tracker is one you have to "sign up" with...not worth it IMHO, goes against the whole "information wants to be free" slashdot standard.

      If someone else gets them and puts them out on a free tracker, let us know.

    9. Re:Winner by Destoo · · Score: 1

      Well, most of these are no cost anyway.
      Usually you just need to register an ID on their forums and post once, generating MORE bandwidth, but probably loading up five or six ads in the process.

      But yes, it totally goes against the standard.

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    10. Re:Winner by Surt · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Is the foot/hand one supposed to be hard ... I do it right every time. Granted, I'm pretty non-flexible, so the rotations don't get very far.

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    11. Re:Winner by GersonK · · Score: 1

      Here's the video used by te Ig Nobel researchers:

      http://viscog.beckman.uiuc.edu/grafs/demos/15.html

    12. Re:Winner by shotfeel · · Score: 1

      Didn't see many of those but it was intriguing. Their use of bad science at times turned me off in the end.

      Some of the "test" I saw were :

      Do you get less wet if you run through the rain?
      Could you actually kill someone with a bullet made of ice?
      Can you be electrocuted by peeing on the "hot" subway rail?

    13. Re:Winner by Lost+Race · · Score: 1

      Don't twist your hand and foot, move them in a circuit parallel to the floor. That is, attempt to draw a circle in the air with your hand while simultaneously drawing another circle in the air with your foot. Easy if you do them in the same direction, quite difficult (though not impossible) in opposite directions.

    14. Re:Winner by tloh · · Score: 1

      I wonder if the results would have been the same had the gorilla suit or bee costume bee been replaced by Natalie Portman N&P, CiHG.

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  10. Two things: by ImaLamer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Obligatory Simpsons Quote:

    "mmmm floor pie" - Homer Simpson

    and the worst comb-over I've ever seen:

    My Congressmen

  11. Like in video games... by suso · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...if you see a piece of food lying on the ground, pick it up.

    1. Re:Like in video games... by Lars+T. · · Score: 3, Funny

      If the food starts to blink, the 5 seconds are almost over.

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    2. Re:Like in video games... by Rob+Simpson · · Score: 1

      Or it hasn't been cooked long enough.

    3. Re:Like in video games... by ElGanzoLoco · · Score: 1

      Yeah but unlike in video games, just running over said piece of food doesn't automagically put it in your backpack.

      You actually have to bend over to get the food! That's, like, a bummer.

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  12. Five Seconds, My Butt by The+Spie · · Score: 1

    Hell, I work in food science. If it hits the floor, it gets inedibled, period. Of course, the floors in your average slaughterhouse...no, wait, I've seen the kitches of some of my friends. The floors in a slaughterhouse are downright clean compared to some of them. Why do I suddenly feel the need to pull out a mop and bucket?

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    1. Re:Five Seconds, My Butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it hits the floor, it gets inedible? Oh, please!

      It's a chance you didn't live 100 years ago (when there was no refrigerator).

  13. The Effect of Country Music on Suicide by Nos. · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm sure Country Music has increased the rate of suicide, while thrash metal and rap have increased the number of homicides.... I know I want to kill the little punks who drive around with this crap blasting out of their car at all hours of the night!

    1. Re:The Effect of Country Music on Suicide by recharged95 · · Score: 1
      But that would say music does not dictate/influence what people (especially kids) do. One would appear to "trigger" the same behavior (rock, rap & hip-hop for example) and the other triggering an opposite behavior (suicide, instead of "more" marital discord, alcohol abuse, and alienation from work, and infidelity...). Devils in the details I guess...

      Then again, since most old-school songs are about "cheatin-hearts", I'm suprised the homicides rate wasn't the same as metal/rap ;)

    2. Re:The Effect of Country Music on Suicide by fermion · · Score: 1

      I am offended by your generalities. As a long time listener of all music forms, I can assure you that all musical forms encourage homocides and suicides equally. In Country music, for example, there is a long tradition of killing those that piss you off, like the guy who walked in front of you or the girl who won't sleep with you. In thrash sometime the world is so hopeless you just have to kill yourself. In rap, the chances are always 50/50 that you will be dead before you get the chance to kill, and you going into the situation hoping that someone will finally take you out. In classical suicide pacts are the only noble way out.

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  14. Details of the invisible gorilla by tiled_rainbows · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I saw this one on TV, on a pop-psychology programme. The guy said that he was going to play a short video, and that you should watch it carefully.
    The video consisted of about eight people standing in a circle. Some of them were wearing white t-shirts and some of them were wearing black t-shirts. They had two basketballs and people were engaged in passing basketballs to others wearing the same colour t-shirts. Occasionally two of them would swap places.
    It went on for a couple of minutes, and was pretty hard to follow, what with people changing places and everything.

    But it was only on the second play-through that I noticed a guy in a gorilla suit, halfway through the video, walk on from one side of the screen, slowly stroll through the circle of ball-passing people, and off the other side of the screen.

    Truly astonishing.

    1. Re:Details of the invisible gorilla by frank249 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      'Gorillas in Our Midst,' Daniel J. Simons and Christopher F. Chabris, vol. 28, Perception, 1999, pages 1059-74.

      It was even mentioned on CSI Season 2 Show 32, the one were the three woman rob the casino:

      Gil Grissom : A Harvard professor conducted an experiment. Asked a bunch of students to watch a basketball game - count the number of times the ball was passed.

      Captain Jim Brass : Yeah? Groundbreaking.

      Gil Grissom : During the game a person dressed in a gorilla suit ran across the court. Afterward, the professor asked the students if they noticed the gorilla. Fifty percent responded, "what gorilla?"

      Captain Jim Brass : That's wonderful, Gil. If I see a gorilla, I'll arrest it.

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    2. Re:Details of the invisible gorilla by SeattleGameboy · · Score: 1

      I don't understand how this important research got lumped with bunch of useless crap...

      This is a very important research showing how unreliable physical eye witnesses are. There are thousands and thousands of people who are incarcerated (or worse) based on nothing more than a testimony from an eyewitness.

      This research combined with research done on false memory has clearly proven that an eye witness alone without corroborating evidence should not pass the hurdle of "without reasonable doubt".

      How could something that could possibly save a falsely accuesed could be labeled IgNobel?

    3. Re:Details of the invisible gorilla by Spunk · · Score: 1

      Ig Nobel winners often ARE awarded for something useful. It's just funny that they were researching using using gorilla suits.

    4. Re:Details of the invisible gorilla by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      I wonder if Lord Vetinari ever tried that? (Night Watch ref)

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    5. Re:Details of the invisible gorilla by Alomex · · Score: 1

      That has always been my beef with the igNobels.

      They mix valid, worthwhile science, which happens to be funny, with not so worthwhile science and plain bogosity (like Enron's igNobel on economics).

      I'm willing to bet that the winners who decline the award (this is done before the announcement, and the ig Committee simply moves on to the next candidate) do it for precisely this reason.

    6. Re:Details of the invisible gorilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep - what's worse is the tagline for the IgNobels - for research that cannot or should not be repeated.

      I've seen numerous winners from past years that were good science - it pisses me off that the IgNobels puts them together with people like the chemist who believed water "memories" could be passed over phone lines (he was "researching" homeopathy).

  15. Steve Chabot by ImaLamer · · Score: 3, Funny

    I know it's bad form to reply to your own comment, but there was a race between my current congressmen a few years back and we approached his opponent at Oktoberfest. Someone I know give him this tidbit:

    Friend: Why don't you ask Chabot in the next debate why he is trying to mislead the people of the first district on a daily basis?

    Candidate: What do you mean? (Excited)

    Friend: Well, he's been trying to convince us that he has a full head of hair. I've seen that combover, it's not fooling anyone.

  16. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by REBloomfield · · Score: 1, Funny
    screw you hippy! :)

    But 80's rock is feel good music. It makes you want to live life, not end it.

  17. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by Destoo · · Score: 3, Funny
    Nah. It's not the music. It's the hormones.

    Meh. Depressing teenagers is like shooting fish in a barrel
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  18. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by REBloomfield · · Score: 1
    I'd hardly call the Smashing Pumpkins 80's rock though, would you?

  19. Coca-Cola by Un0r1g1nal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am still amazed that they tried to sell this and expected not to get caught. It's beggars belief. But then again look at coke, it can't be any better for you (probably much worse) than water from the thames. My dad recently used some to clean an oil spill off his drive, think I will stick with real drinks, like orange and apple juice, that aren't just processed drugs.

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    1. Re:Coca-Cola by lelitsch · · Score: 2, Informative

      You *are* aware that the Dasani water that Coca Cola is selling in the US is purified tab water, too, are you?
      Maybe tat just shows that the US consumer-or the US media-are bigger suckers than the ones in the UK.

    2. Re:Coca-Cola by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You *are* aware that the Dasani water that Coca Cola is selling in the US is purified tab water

      Wait a second...you mean that they don't have to purify the water before they use it in Tab? Yuck!

    3. Re:Coca-Cola by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it's certainly better than drinking unpurified tap water, methinks. Oh wait, am I supposed to be some water connisseur, and only drink water helicoptered in from the Alps?

    4. Re:Coca-Cola by Rheingold · · Score: 1

      Um, it's just a mild amount of phosphoric acid. Try it with other acids, like lemon or tomato juice. Of course you'd be foolish to waste money on lemon or tomato juice when Coke is cheaper. Now, the refined sugar, caffeine and murderous anti-labor activities *are* something to be concerned about.

      It's like that "big deal" that Taco Bell sauce cleans pennies... It's just vinegar in action; you'd get the same effect with a $100 bottle of fine Balsamic vinegar.

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  20. Where's... by Loco3KGT · · Score: 1

    Donald Trump?

    He's got the worst combover of any celebrity.

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  21. Country music and suicide rates by scotay · · Score: 5, Funny

    A disturbing study showing that the suicide rates for whites in US metropolitan areas is higher in cities where more country music is played on the radio earned the Ig Nobel prize in Medicine for Steven Stack of Wayne State in Detroit and James Gundlach of Auburn University in Alabama.

    I think some further study is needed here. My theory is that country music is not actually the culprit, but Southern Baptists are. Country music is more likely to be played in areas infested with Southern Baptists and other fundamentalist Christians. These groups are able to place stricter social controls on anything fun and are constantly harping on homosexuals and on anyone that might be having a good time and not constantly worried about damnation. This denial of the reality of free American lives eventually leads to higher suicide rates. I think we would need to start playing country music in more liberalized areas and see if that might increase the rates of buzzkill before we can blame country music exclusively.

    1. Re:Country music and suicide rates by Surazal · · Score: 1

      I think we would need to start playing country music in more liberalized areas and see if that might increase the rates of buzzkill before we can blame country music exclusively.

      I'd like to counter-point: I think it is totally acceptable to blame country music exclusively. Discuss. :^)

      (My mom listened to waaaaay too much of it as a kid and nowadays I squirm whenever I hear Garth Brooks, though I'm not entirely sure that was a learned response)

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    2. Re:Country music and suicide rates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heheh. Off-topic to be sure, but when I was living in Seattle a few years ago, there was a McDonald's downtown which decided that the crowds of teenagers outside listening to rap music all day were a "problem".

      Rather than seek painstaking legal remedies, they simply began to run a moderate-volume feed of Country Music to loudspeakers under the awnings. It was, debate about racism aside, a fairly elegant solution.

    3. Re:Country music and suicide rates by maxpublic · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd like to counter-point: I think it is totally acceptable to blame country music exclusively.

      In that case rap and other forms of kiddie 'music' are certainly responsible for a higher homocide rates. Particularly when some little prick is blasting the ultra-mega-supercool speakers he just bought (either for his house or his car) and refuses to recognize the fact that his neighbors really don't want to listen to his noise collection along with him. And when you ask him - politely - to turn the noise down, he barely touches the volume knob and somehow thinks that's good enough to comply with your request. And whines like the little loser he is when you return to repeat the request.

      Wash, rinse, repeat. Eventually go mad and blow the little bastard's brains out. Neighbors applaud wildly, law enforcement officials aren't so approving. Hey, you'd rather have gone for castration to prevent the little shit foisting his substandard progeny off on some witless girl, but the young'ns are just too bloody hard to catch and hold down....

      Max

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  22. Testes? by gspira · · Score: 1
    From the brief description of the combover patent:

    The hair to be used as covering is brushed over the bald area in alternating folds using hair spray to hold the hair in place. The uppermost section can be styled to the person's personal teste.

    That certainly seems novel to me.

  23. i knew i wasn't crazy..... by to_kallon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oddly a large fraction had not noticed a woman in a gorilla suit walk through the scene
    for years i've been seeing this big rabbit, and everyone thought i was nuts. but who's laughing now......?

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  24. Re:Proper definition/clarification of 5-second rul by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well if my dog doesn't eat said food product in 5 seconds, you bet there something wrong with it

  25. 5 Second Rule by Mr+Guy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not to be pedantic about the poster's phrasing, but I would have though the proof went *against* the five-second rule (although this is the first I've heard of such a rule - up until now I've always thought of food on the floor as being garbage-fodder... Catching it in mid-fall is the thing to do, thus managing to foil the buttered-toast rule :-)

    It depends on which part of the claim you are looking at. If you take the claim as "Food that has been on the floor less than 5 seconds is safe to eat" then the claim holds up, mostly because he proved that the time doesn't matter much at all. What he seems to have demonstrated is that most of the floors he looked at were clean enough to eat from. He did disprove that the time is the relevant factor, however.

    There's always a difference between clean and sanitary. Relevant to this is that we may actually be too clean.

    1. Re:5 Second Rule by shotfeel · · Score: 1

      One of the phrases I remember my father using now and then, "It's just good, clean dirt."

    2. Re:5 Second Rule by Sique · · Score: 1

      It was 'dirt cleans out the stomach' with my parents.

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  26. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny
    A disturbing study showing that the suicide rates for whites in US metropolitan areas is higher in cities where more country music is played on the radio
    Now why am I not surprised?
    Hey, billy-bob, I dare you to put your shotgun barrel in your mouth.
    Shut up, Cleatus!
    Double-dare yah!
    Yeah? Well I triple-dare you-all back!
    Okay.
    Bet you a buck your wad of chaw's gone blocked the darn barrel.
    (mumbled around barrel) Aint.
    Is to!
    (mumbled around barrel) Aint!
    Is to!
    (mumbled around barrel) Aint! I'll proove it to ya! * Bang! *
    (shakes head in surprise) Sumbitch, he was right.
  27. The 5 second rule by iso · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have been told since I was a kid that this is the three second rule! I can't believe for all these years I've been throwing out two seconds worth of perfectly good food!

    1. Re:The 5 second rule by advocate_one · · Score: 1

      no sorry, the "Three Second Rule" is where you've lucked out if you vacate your place in the queue or left your seat, whatever, for more than three seconds...

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  28. Gorilla Gender Bias? by milo_Gwalthny · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder if they ran this experiment by gender. When I'm watching the guys on TV throw the ball between themselves and at the hoop I never seem to notice my wife walking into the room and talking at me.

    She, OTOH, notices everything. And remembers.

    --
    Milo
    1. Re:Gorilla Gender Bias? by Desert+Raven · · Score: 1

      She, OTOH, notices everything. And remembers.

      Oh yeah, put some tear-jerker chick-flick on the tube and see how much she notices. :)

      Everyone has their weaknesses.

    2. Re:Gorilla Gender Bias? by milo_Gwalthny · · Score: 1

      Everyone has their weaknesses.

      Or, more aptly, Everyone has their gorillas.

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    3. Re:Gorilla Gender Bias? by shotfeel · · Score: 1

      Conclusion: She's not your problem, but you are most certainly her's.

  29. There are 2 types of country by scotay · · Score: 1, Troll

    You have the pussified pap From The Garth Brooks School that infests the airways. Full of caterwauling of how great god and America are and lots of sappy rumination of how great families are and raising kids and going to Sunday school. And then you have Hank Williams Jr. and the like that is more about rebellions and a hearty "Fuck off" to those that have a problem with it. The former promotes suicide, the latter, promotes life.

    1. Re:There are 2 types of country by NonSequor · · Score: 3, Funny

      You can summarize the first type of country as "God bless America and my family" and the second type of country as "Let's get drunk and have unprotected sex in a barn."

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    2. Re:There are 2 types of country by BCW2 · · Score: 1

      The second type ibest shown in the immortal:

      "Why Don't We Get Drunk and Screw" by Jimmy Buffett.

      Then again in the late 70's through the 80's, that was considered normal behavior. Damn AIDs, I miss those days.

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  30. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by LordKronos · · Score: 0

    But 80's rock is feel good music. It makes you want to live life, not end it.

    Unless it's Judas Priest

  31. Gah!! Thames Water by shabble · · Score: 2, Informative
    From the article:
    CHEMISTRY
    The Coca-Cola Company of Great Britain, for using advanced technology to convert liquid from the River Thames into Dasani, a transparent form of water, which for precautionary reasons has been made unavailable to consumers.
    I think if you look at the Guardian article more closely, it implies they used water supplied by the company called Thames Water, not water from The Thames:
    [...]It goes something like this: take Thames Water from the tap in your factory in Sidcup, Kent; put it through a purification process[...]
    I do hope the people who selected these aren't doing any research papers on anything important.
    1. Re:Gah!! Thames Water by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      That's an easy mistake. The Engineering prize is what astounds me - it's for a patent which is 29 years old.

    2. Re:Gah!! Thames Water by Oddly_Drac · · Score: 1

      "I do hope the people who selected these aren't doing any research papers on anything important."

      Some of the names appear again and again, but you do seem to have picked up on a minor point that the Ig Nobels are run for a laugh.

      You weren't even concerned that Coca Cola's 'purification' process involved introducing a carcinogenic product into _drinking_ water?

      That's the serious bit. Concentrate on that rather than the gag reporting.

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  32. Dr. Turvey was one of my professors by ayden · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm shocked and amazed that my former professor won an Ig in Physics.

    I graduated from UCONN in 1990 with a Bachelor's in Psychology. Dr. Turvey taught perhaps the most interesting class in my experience at UCONN: Learning Theory. The department at that time was in split into factions, one espousing the usual sensation drives perception while the other (led by Dr. Turvey) held that direct perception was a better model. Interesting note, the direct perception group was using hard science and mathematics to prove their theories, something very unusual for what is perceived to be a "soft science".

    BTW, does anybody know why the Ig ceremony is off schedule this year? They are usually held on the first Thursday of October, but in this case were held on the last Thursday of September.

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    1. Re:Dr. Turvey was one of my professors by blether · · Score: 1

      It's held on the 38th Thursday of the year. Whether this falls in September or October depends on where the firsr Thursday of the year falls.

    2. Re:Dr. Turvey was one of my professors by sellthesedownfalls · · Score: 1

      Ah. I was also wondering why this was the case. The Ignobels seem to be plagued with terrible weather: last year it was FREEEZING and this year when we left the ceremony it was pouring rain. Unfortunately we have our big physics departmental clambake on the beach today, so I can't attend the lectures. They are always HYSTERICAL. I hope some of you get to go; it's a good time.

  33. SEP field by RevDobbs · · Score: 2, Insightful
    PSYCHOLOGY
    Daniel Simons of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and Christopher Chabris of Harvard University, for demonstrating that when people pay close attention to something, it's all too easy to overlook anything else -- even a man in a gorilla suit.

    This is hardly original work... I think it was well established by Douglas Adams, though he refered to it as a "Somebody Else's Problem Field". If you're busy counting balls, the gorilla must be Somebody Else's Problem, and thus goes unnoticed by you. http://www.artpolitic.org/infopedia/se/SEP_field.h tml explains the concept nicely.

  34. They understated Coca Cola's achievement by ColourlessGreenIdeas · · Score: 1

    They claim they made Thamnes river-water unsafe, which requires doing nothing. They took London tap water (Thamnes river water made safe) and made it unsafe and (according to blind trials) less tasty.

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  35. To foil the buttered toast rule... by TFGeditor · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...simply butter the toast on the wrong side.

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  36. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by REBloomfield · · Score: 0
    hey, that got thrown out! As the judge said: "I don't know anyone who listens to records backwards in order to decipher the lyrics"

    Living after midnight! Now there's a fist in the air feel good song :)

  37. Re:Proper definition/clarification of 5-second rul by Saeger · · Score: 1
    That's right: help the village idiot build up his immune system!

    I'm no germ-freak idiot, and have no problem, say, eating a slice of pizza that fell topdown on the floor. Wipe the big crunchy dirt off and it's as good as new... unless your shit don't stink.

    I with Carlin and Kramer. :)

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  38. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by ArsSineArtificio · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Ah, poor rural whites. The last group that it's okay to be racist to.

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  39. Since the combover is patented... by petepac · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...does Donnald Trump own them a licensing fee for using it while on TV?

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    >> Practice Safe Hex
    1. Re:Since the combover is patented... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They'd do the world a favour if they made him cease and desist.

    2. Re:Since the combover is patented... by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 1

      Nope, the patent appears to have been granted in 1977(!) so has definitely expired by now. On the other hand, to me, it proves the USPTO has been Nucking Futs for much longer than I had originally assumed, and recent problems with obvious software patents are an extension of a pre-existing problem rather than a new one...

  40. Combover the Movie by sbowles · · Score: 1

    If this is true than it is probably discussed in Combover the Movie.

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  41. Cue the obligatory... by sean.peters · · Score: 1

    ... "you must be new here" remark.

    Sean

  42. Re:Proper definition/clarification of 5-second rul by Red+Pointy+Tail · · Score: 3, Informative

    The 5 second rule has been covered by /. more than a year ago here.

  43. The plural of "anecdote" isn't "data" by JUSTONEMORELATTE · · Score: 1

    ... but here's another anecdote just the same
    A friend of mine grew up in Colorado (floridated tap water) and moved to Utah (not floridated tap water)
    As soon as she went to the dentist in Utah, he asked her where she grew up. She explained, and he said that he could tell by the health of her teeth that she wasn't local.


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    1. Re:The plural of "anecdote" isn't "data" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The opinion of a specialist isn't an anecdote.

  44. Teste, singular? by dexter+riley · · Score: 1

    So, when Lance Armstrong has someone go down on him, does he say, "oh, yeah, baby, suck my...ball..."?

  45. Not water from the Thames by awol · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not water from the Thames, it is water from a company called "Thames Water" that provides water in the UK (originally from the Thames river valley) I would imagine that none of this water is from the Thames itself, and certainly the catchment area and resevoirs are much more widely distributed than just the Thames.

    As the original paper points out, tap water is actually validated to a much higher standard than all of that bottled crap people pay for.

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    1. Re:Not water from the Thames by evilviper · · Score: 1
      As the original paper points out, tap water is actually validated to a much higher standard than all of that bottled crap people pay for.

      This is complete bull.
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  46. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by ch-chuck · · Score: 1

    There is some 70's stuff by ELO with backwards lyrics in it. There's an obvious backwards mask in 'Fire on High' that says "The music is reversible, but time isn't. Turn back, turn back, turn back!"

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  47. Dogs rights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    As a long time dog owner I know that any food that touches the floor is the legal property of the dog.

  48. It's not tap water by JUSTONEMORELATTE · · Score: 1

    Soda makers (and breweries, for that matter) spend a significant portion of their process on purification/standarization of their water supply.
    You can like soda or hate it, (you can like Bud Light or hate it) but wherever you go in the north american continent, a bottle of coke will always taste exactly like every other bottle of coke, and that's a phenominal feat.
    A glass of tap water from NYC will be different from tap water in Miami, different from Santa Fe, etc. But a bottle of Dasani each each of those places will taste exactly the same.

    What cracks me up is that Dasani (one of the ingredients in Coke) is selling for a higher per-ounce price than Coke (Dasani + sugar + flavoring, etc) but I guess that's just the market for you.

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    1. Re:It's not tap water by JDevers · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not really as hard to standardize a "taste" for water as you might think. They all start off with different water sources, but when they send it through reverse osmosis they are pretty much left with pure H20, then they can add in their trace minerals that give it the mouthfeel they are after. I would actually be amazed if it DIDN'T all taste the same...

    2. Re:It's not tap water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe in the North American continent that's true, but over here in Europe, I can blind-taste the difference between French, German, Turkish and English Coke (canned rather than bottled) remarkably easily. Then again, I do drink unhealthy amounts of the stuff.

    3. Re:It's not tap water by Desert+Raven · · Score: 2, Insightful

      but wherever you go in the north american continent, a bottle of coke will always taste exactly like every other bottle of coke, and that's a phenominal feat.

      Don't travel much, do you?

      I used to be able to identify the bottling plant by the taste of a bottle of Coke. I've been living in one place too long now to be able to do that any more, but I can still taste the difference when I make the occasional trip.

  49. Just what we need... by hopemafia · · Score: 1

    Inattentional blindness...now when that idiot in the SUV mows me down while I'm crossing the street, they can say it wasn't their fault....

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    If God had had a computer it would have taken him 7 months to create the earth...if he even bothered to do it at all.
  50. Re:Proper definition/clarification of 5-second rul by Like2Byte · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, right!

    Here's a scenario for you stecoop. You're standing in the crowded men's room - late into the evening - at your favorite local bar knowing these people can't pee straight sober much less drunk. You brought your beer with you; because, God forbid, someone steal your drink.

    As you're waiting in line to pee, some drunk opens the door into you causing you to spill your drink.

    Here's your question: Which puddle do you lick up? You have four seconds to decide.

  51. Re:Proper definition/clarification of 5-second rul by stecoop · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hmm, that would fall under Section 1 paragraph II - heading A - The Village Idiot.

    The owner would be the village idiot for these reasons:
    1) You're standing in front of the door
    2) You brought your beer to the bathroom
    3) You didn't finish your drink *before* going to the bathroom
    4) You are walking in pee
    5) You're in crowded men's room

    Possible Remedies
    1) Pee in your beer bottle to rectify anyone from stealing your beer in the future
    2) Finish drink before going to bathroom
    3) Plan on going to the bathroom before ordering drink
    4) Don't walk in Pee
    5) Don't take drink to bathroom.
    6) Don't stand in front of a bathroom door
    7) Let the dog have it - or you're the village idiot.

  52. Same in the US... BUT by mekkab · · Score: 1

    Oh, its the same thing in the US- Dasani is probably NYC tap water.

    However ANY other tap water is vastly superior to Washington DC tap water, which will KILL YOU (between harmful levels of bacteria, to all the lead in the water). Even my tap water in Montgomery County, Maryland (right outside of DC) is so chlorinated that it smells like a swimming pool.

    Even if they add a few impurities here or there, it sure beats DC's water!

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    1. Re:Same in the US... BUT by Jhan · · Score: 1

      You are aware that DC Dasani would probably be made by taking DC tap water, then adding extra impurities? They produce this stuff locally, you know.

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    2. Re:Same in the US... BUT by mekkab · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't drink Dasani. But my Aquafina is bottled in Purchase, NY (suburbs of NYC). And NY's got some GOOOOOOD water! (i.e.- unleaded (its not just for gasoline anymore!), less bacteria, doesn't smell like a chlorinated pool).

      If DC Dasani is made from DC tap water, then they have a horrible business plan considering the national attention DC has gotten.

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    3. Re:Same in the US... BUT by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1
      Oh, its the same thing in the US- Dasani is probably NYC tap water. However ANY other tap water is vastly superior to Washington DC tap water, which will KILL YOU (between harmful levels of bacteria, to all the lead in the water). Even my tap water in Montgomery County, Maryland (right outside of DC) is so chlorinated that it smells like a swimming pool. Even if they add a few impurities here or there, it sure beats DC's water!

      If it has nothing else, NYC has absolutely GREAT water. It's bizarre. Probably because it's mostly groundwater from watersheds to the north, rather than, say, mostly well water like in texas, laden with yummy petroleum (it's in the ground-- you can't get away from it).

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  53. Somebody Elses Problem (SEP) field by Punchinello · · Score: 2, Funny
    The gorilla experiment proves that the SEP Field in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy actually works!!

    Once again, science fiction becomes science fact.

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  54. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I dunno, if I had to listen to country music all day, I'd probably want to kill myself too.

  55. Flouridated water is BS by RapmasterT · · Score: 1

    I have a very hard time believeing that dentists would say such a thing. The flouride that some cities add to drinking water is orders of magnitude lower in concentration than that in toothpaste. Flouride has no systematic benefits (from swallowing), only in the topical application to the teeth. So basically, the only possbile benefit anyone would see from flouridated water is if you never brushed your teeth with toothpaste, and even then it's so minute that brushing once a month would give better results. Any dentist who would say such a thing wouldn't be my dentist long. If such a dentist really was concerned about tooth decay, he'd be recommending brushing your funky teeth, not drinking flouridated water.

    1. Re:Flouridated water is BS by Rob+Simpson · · Score: 1
      Strange. My dentist mentioned my teeth were in such good shape because I'd gotten all my adult teeth before fluoride was removed from the water supply (several years ago) by the nutters. I suppose business is better, though.

      From the Canadian Dental Association:

      4. Why is fluoride added to the drinking water if it is available in other ways?

      Adding fluoride to the water is the best way to provide fluoride protection to a large number of people at a low cost. That's why many towns and cities put fluoride in the water in a controlled manner. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control recently named fluoridation of drinking water one of the 10 most successful public health measures in this century.

    2. Re:Flouridated water is BS by RapmasterT · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ok, try this one then.

      Ask your dentist to reaffirm that statement.

      Then ask him why the miniscule amount (flouride is toxic after all) of flouride added to drinking water is so much more effective than the flouride in toothpaste, which is a much higher concentration. Not to mention the fact that one is scrubbed into your teeth, and the other has brief, limited contact before it's swallowed.

      If he can't answer that, or gives a lame response about "both" being the key, ask if maybe...just maybe...that the widespread flouridation of toothpaste at about the same time that drinking water started getting it, might be responsible for the overall increase in oral health.

      Or maybe people just brush their teeth more these days than 50 years ago.

      We have flouride in drinking water because it's easy, and some is better than none. But pretending that people who otherwise practice decent toothcare are having decay because the water wasn't flouridated is ridiculous.

  56. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But 80's rock is feel good music. It makes you want to live life, not end it.

    Yes, remember all that bright, happy 80s music? Like Depeche Mode's "People are people" bouncy little anthem for peace? Don't forget, the 80s weren't all sunshine & roses. There was music with depth as well, and it wasn't all happy.

    Depeche Mode also wrote a song called: "Blasphemeous rumors" which contained the less than uplifting lines: "I think that God has a sick sense of humor/And when I die, I expect to find Him laughing". In "Flies on the windscreen", they sang a dissonant dirge that contains the lines: "Death is everywhere/There are lambs for the slaughter" as an unhappy chorus. But it wasn't just Depeche Mode that had depressing music.

    In the 80s, in general, I found that there was a lot of bouncy, upbeat sounding songs about unpleasant or downright depressing topics.

    Phil Collins sang "Invisible Touch", about how an infatuation with a controling woman was ruining his life: "She takes control, and slowly tears you apart". It had a happy little beat, though.

    Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA" is an indictment of the state of existance there. Lines like:"You end up like a dog that's been beat too much,/And you spend half your life just to cover it up" isn't "feel good" music. You have to listen to more than the chorus to realize that, though.

    U2's "With or Without You" is a song about a man who is fundamentally unhappy, both when he is in a relationship and when he is apart.

    One hit wonder pop stars like Tiffany (remember her?) were chock full of teen angst music, with songs like "All this time", about a tearful little breakup. Debbie Gibson sang: "I will never love again now that we're apart".

    Belinda Carlisle sang about divorce ("Band of Gold"). Rush urged people not to commit suicide ("The Pass"). Maddonna sang about teen pregnancy ("Papa don't preach"). Band Aid sang about famine. "By the Berlin Wall" is about as politically themed as a song can get. Midnight Oil's "Blue Sky Mine" warned about corporate exploitation of the working classes. "Diamond Sun" argued for native rights.

    It wasn't all feel good music. If it didn't sound depressing, maybe you missed what some of the lyrics implied. Or maybe you have cheerier tastes in 80s music than I do. :-)
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  57. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by eyeye · · Score: 1

    I remember playing Queen backwards and heard "smoke marajuana". (*)

    I was only a kid and I didnt feel an urge to go and do what they say.

    Now I am older on the other hand I know exactly where they were coming from :)

    (*) may be banned in USA due to draconian laws ;)

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  58. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by nutsy · · Score: 1

    A disturbing study showing that the suicide rates for whites in US metropolitan areas is higher in cities where more country music is played on the radio

    Now why am I not surprised?

    (lame joke elided)

    Do you not know what the word metropolitan means?

  59. Combover? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Granting patents for hairstyling? The USPTO is ridiculous.

  60. Oh man.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    I've read about Ig Nobel before on /., and it's just now it occurs to me that it spells ignobel. It's a joke! Talk about being slow in the head..

  61. Re: the formula by BitterAndDrunk · · Score: 1
    If I am eating it: -1 point
    If my girlfriend/wife is eating it: -1 point
    Unless I have recently had a fight/plan on breaking up/have not received oral sex in more than 4 months:+1 point
    If I am serving it to customers: +1 point
    Unless the kitchen manager saw me drop it: -1 point
    Unless he's an asshole too: +1 point
    If it lands on dogshit: +2 points
    Unless it was a Shit-Tzu: +1 point (because, you know, their name sounds like poo)
    The dish is liquid, such as soup or creme brulee: +1 point
    The dish has flecks of spices on it that could easily disguise dirt and/or e. coli: -1 point

    Add everything up, and then serve it to others anyway. Exercise your own judgement if you need to eat it. But remember: a day off spent vomiting and peeing out of your ass is still a day off, particularly if you work for the government.

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  62. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by Grizzlysmit · · Score: 1
    A disturbing study showing that the suicide rates for whites in US metropolitan areas is higher in cities where more country music is played on the radio
    I wonder if other favorite country music themes are up too, like murdering your girlfriend, just goes to show that filling your head with a particular thought will have some effect.
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  63. it's not racism, it's truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nt

  64. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, poor rural whites. The last group that it's okay to be racist to.

    Thank goodness there's one group left! Well, two, if you count Polacks.

  65. Too much floride? by MonkeyCookie · · Score: 1

    I have a friend who grew in Hong Kong. He has brown spots on his teeth that he claims are the result of Hong Kong having had *too much* floride in the municipal water supply when he was little?

    Does anyone know about the potential effects of too much floride?

    1. Re:Too much floride? by pnot · · Score: 1

      Does anyone know about the potential effects of too much floride?

      Yes, I believe it's fairly well known [1] that too much fluoride causes nasty brown spots on teeth; trouble is, "too much" varies from person to person. In areas where they fluoridate water, the argument seems to be that the net effect is a good one: a few unfortunates end up with ugly teeth for life, but far more people are saved from tooth decay.

      AFAIK brushing with fluoridated toothpaste (i.e. just about every toothpaste -- non-fluoridated toothpaste is a rare specialist item for fluoride-sensitive individuals) provides more than enough fluoride, so fluoridated water benefits mainly those who don't brush their teeth enough. IMHO it's pretty unfair on the fluoride-sensitive (especially since you're unlikely to know that you're sensitive until your teeth turn brown, by which time it's too late).

      [1] Sorry, don't have time to dig up references. You'll have to trust me ;-).

  66. THat's too funny by cyberzephyr · · Score: 1

    These guys get funnier and funnier as the years go by.

    I actually posted so i could save the link... :-)

    Ciao with tongue in cheek!

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  67. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by tomhudson · · Score: 1
    Ah, poor rural whites. The last group that it's okay to be racist to.
    And what "race" do they belong to?
  68. its all about the taste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I moved to america a couple of years ago.
    I hated the teaste of the tap water
    (it drove me nuts, different from europe).
    I started drinking bottled water.
    The taste also drove me nuts,
    but, the bottled water was kept in the fridge
    so it tasted awsome (cold, refreshing, no discernible taste).

    Now I can't stand ANY kind of tap water,
    and if I do drink it, i mix in some
    Aloe Vera juice (gives it that bland no-taste taste, which doesn't drive me nuts)

  69. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by mrbuttboy · · Score: 1

    ....well,they would be ...white?

    Part of the point is if you say,"Poor rurals" it has no effect....and if you said "Poor black rurals" well, you spoke negitively about black people...tsk tsk.

    I think it is "ok" because the general feeling is if your white and your poor your worthless,you had all the chances and still failed.

    Frankly,I dont think it is a probelm becuase it isn't like poor white trash own a computer or can even read.

    (i think i am going to burn in hell for that last comment)

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  70. 100% pure H2O a poison - not true by Rezazur · · Score: 1

    Which is a common belief but totally untrue.

    The osmotic pressure of your fluids is hormonally regulated. Thus if you drink hypotonic fluid, simply less water will leave the body as urine and at the same time toxins and waste produced is enough to sustain the proper osmotic pressure.

    The real problem is the intake of hypertonic solution, because there is not really any other way to get those salts out of the body than diluting them in more water which leads to dehydration. Just my 2c

  71. Just don't trust the vending machines by Anarcho-Goth · · Score: 1

    One time on a road trip I tried to purchase a bottle of water.
    It accepted my money OK, but wouldn't give me any water.
    It wouldn't give me back my money either, and curiously enough, after a couple minutes the credit went away.

    It was the bottled water produced by cocacola.
    I was pissed.
    I wrote a note that the machine stole my money.

    Since then I purchase my bottled water at the supermarket getting 2 dozen bottles at a time and keep them in my trunk.

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    I hate Liberals and Conservatives.
    If you are a Liberal or a Conservative, then HAVE A NICE DAY!
    Courage.