If you are used to having a few cups of coffee every morning, try not having that coffee on the weekends and see how your head feels. You won't be talking about no negative effects then. I would certainly say physical withdrawal from any drug is a bad thing.
Funny, I went to erowid and searched "Freon". Here was the very first story that came up:
"[Erowid Warning: Our understanding of the literature is that there is no such thing as safe use of volatile solvents, aerosols and other street inhalants : their psychoactive effects are inseparable from nerve and organ damage. We have chosen to include these reports to help document the real world use of inhalants, but their inclusion is not intended to imply that they are anything but dangerous.]
I guess ill start off with some backround info...
My grandpa owns an air conditioning repair place. Its basically a family business. Ive worked there, and my cousin used to work there. I worked on a/c units for a few years (illegally though, I was only 18 and didnt even have a license).
While I worked there a few friends of mine kept trying to get me to try huffing freon since I had access to mass quantities of it. They also tried to get me to hook them up with it. I always harshly turned them down, because I know how dangerous this shit is. It says right on the box in big letters that inhaling it can and will make your heart stop, among other bad things. But you guys are probably aware of this, so ill go on with my story...
One morning in 1998 I woke up to a phone ringing. It was my grandpa, and he was sobbing. He told me to wake up my parents and come to 'the shop' quick. I hauled ass over there to find an ambulance in the parking lot, along with a bunch of cops. My cousin (who was working there) had been huffing freon (r-22, if that matters) from a trash bag and had passed out into the bag. There was a small amount of liquid freon in the bottom of the bag. Needless to say, his lungs were practically destroyed and he had been dead for a while.
I guess what im trying to say is do not do this shit!!!! Ive messed with inhalants before and I know how cool they can be, but damn, dont huff freon. When you get it out of someone's a/c, think about it. Youre not even getting quality freon. It has probably been in the unit for at least 5 years; during that time it absorbs oil from the compressor, chemicals from the welds in the freon lines, and other shit like that. Freon is a tasteless, odorless chemical. The 'honey' taste ive heard described is the impurities in it from the machine its been in. And if the compressor is going out or electrically shorting from age, you might be getting burnt freon. Once when changing out an old unit that had some in it, I had on a mask (of course) and let a blast of this stuff out on a nearby anthill. The ants immediately stopped moving, dead. This is nasty shit.
Anyway, if you wanna get high, inhalants are a dumb way to do it. Just smoke some weed or sniff some coke or something. If you like inhalants that much, stick to the tamer ones like whippits or something. Freon is just about the most dangerous one you can do, especially if you are getting it out of an a/c unit. Theyre trying to get rid of freon altogether because of what it does to the atmosphere; just think about what it does to your lungs and brain. Peace.
I miss my cousin"
Maybe your nephew doesn't know how to read, or thinks that stern warnings are not real.
In any case you can hardly blame erowid for not warning him. This took me literally 5 seconds to find and was the first entry in the search results.
In case you hadn't noticed, this is a technology site where a large number of people are dedicated to "fucking with stupid shit" on a regular basis. So talking about modding your phone is kind of right up the proverbial alley here...
I have had a personal Google account for years and now the University where I work is switching to Google for mail, calendars, etc. and I want to keep the two accounts separate.
Actually, far from the enemy, China is the chief lender of money that keeps the US afloat. China is so tied to us economically the threat of them becoming our "enemy" is laughable. If they truly wanted to beat the US, all they would need to do is stop loaning the US money and cash in all of their debts to the US. But seeing they own a huge chunk of the US already, it is in their best economic interests to make sure the US is doing okay.
And lighten up Francis - pointing out that the US is good at propaganda (duh) does not make one a "hippie". Do you really think the US isn't good a propaganda, or do you have a quota of people you need to call "hippies" every day? Or do you just think anyone to the left of Glenn Beck is an "ultra-liberal"?
Yes, but this rule does not apply to Apple products. Anyone remember the Cube? Anyone want to buy one as a museum relic? (The one I have has a different video card and an additional fan so no overheating issues.)
If a consumer has a choice between two similar products - one has had more than one safety recall and the other has not, which do you think the consumer will be more likely to choose? Not having to recall your products is better PR than having to do so. Some people will see it as a sign the manufacturer screwed up and will lose a little faith in the company no matter what the reality is.
Toyota wouldn't have spent millions of dollars in fixes and the bad PR from issuing recalls if they themselves didn't have evidence there was some sort of problem that was their fault. It would have been much cheaper for them to claim it was all user error too.
Please point out to me where my "words pointed to only one side being nut jobs". I was not the OP, and my entire point was that not only one side are nutjobs. Talk about blinders. It is obvious you had no clue what I was "getting at" in your responses, or if you did you were deliberately ignoring it. I wasn't assuming you didn't know about right-wing wackos. I was assuming you thought that liberals have a monopoly on fantasy, which is blatantly false. I would have responded exactly the same if you had said "right-wing wackos" instead of "liberals". You can assume I am trying to make one side or the other look better, but you would only be constructing more of your own fantasy as I think both extremes are stupid, and have no interest in making either side look good.
Only humans can complain about being offered a free service that they can choose to use or not use. It is really simple - if you don't like Facebook, don't use it. The rest of us who choose to use it don't care why you don't want to use it just like you don't care why the rest of us do choose to use it.
Apparently you must live somewhere that has no local music scene. Because Facebook is very good at letting bands inform their fans about upcoming shows, posting pictures, and displaying band merchandise, etc. - and all for the cost of zero dollars. Yeah, boy does it suck. I have never used Facebook to try and tell others how "cool" I am, but then again I am over the age of 12, physically and mentally.
That is all well and dandy, but it isn't what I was getting at. Do you really think that liberals are the only group of people that can construct a skewed version of reality only seeing what they see fit? If so you are just as much in a fantasy world as those "liberals" you claim are doing the same thing. Do you really think that Glenn Beck's inner idea of reality is so much more accurate than Keith Olberman's? Who's fooling who now? I think both of them have very skewed ideas of what is "real" in the world. (Note I do not subscribe to either the "liberal" or "conservative" agendas becasue I think they are both dumb. But I am not so foolish to think either side is worse than the other. They are just opposite sides of the very same coin.)
And also for warez. About half of the BBS I frequented back in the 80s were dedicated solely to hosting warez for downloading. They also had message boards and such, but warez was the primary reason for existence for many BBS.
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If you are used to having a few cups of coffee every morning, try not having that coffee on the weekends and see how your head feels. You won't be talking about no negative effects then. I would certainly say physical withdrawal from any drug is a bad thing.
Funny, I went to erowid and searched "Freon". Here was the very first story that came up:
"[Erowid Warning: Our understanding of the literature is that there is no such thing as safe use of volatile solvents, aerosols and other street inhalants : their psychoactive effects are inseparable from nerve and organ damage. We have chosen to include these reports to help document the real world use of inhalants, but their inclusion is not intended to imply that they are anything but dangerous.]
I guess ill start off with some backround info... My grandpa owns an air conditioning repair place. Its basically a family business. Ive worked there, and my cousin used to work there. I worked on a/c units for a few years (illegally though, I was only 18 and didnt even have a license).
While I worked there a few friends of mine kept trying to get me to try huffing freon since I had access to mass quantities of it. They also tried to get me to hook them up with it. I always harshly turned them down, because I know how dangerous this shit is. It says right on the box in big letters that inhaling it can and will make your heart stop, among other bad things. But you guys are probably aware of this, so ill go on with my story...
One morning in 1998 I woke up to a phone ringing. It was my grandpa, and he was sobbing. He told me to wake up my parents and come to 'the shop' quick. I hauled ass over there to find an ambulance in the parking lot, along with a bunch of cops. My cousin (who was working there) had been huffing freon (r-22, if that matters) from a trash bag and had passed out into the bag. There was a small amount of liquid freon in the bottom of the bag. Needless to say, his lungs were practically destroyed and he had been dead for a while.
I guess what im trying to say is do not do this shit!!!! Ive messed with inhalants before and I know how cool they can be, but damn, dont huff freon. When you get it out of someone's a/c, think about it. Youre not even getting quality freon. It has probably been in the unit for at least 5 years; during that time it absorbs oil from the compressor, chemicals from the welds in the freon lines, and other shit like that. Freon is a tasteless, odorless chemical. The 'honey' taste ive heard described is the impurities in it from the machine its been in. And if the compressor is going out or electrically shorting from age, you might be getting burnt freon. Once when changing out an old unit that had some in it, I had on a mask (of course) and let a blast of this stuff out on a nearby anthill. The ants immediately stopped moving, dead. This is nasty shit.
Anyway, if you wanna get high, inhalants are a dumb way to do it. Just smoke some weed or sniff some coke or something. If you like inhalants that much, stick to the tamer ones like whippits or something. Freon is just about the most dangerous one you can do, especially if you are getting it out of an a/c unit. Theyre trying to get rid of freon altogether because of what it does to the atmosphere; just think about what it does to your lungs and brain. Peace.
I miss my cousin"
Maybe your nephew doesn't know how to read, or thinks that stern warnings are not real.
In any case you can hardly blame erowid for not warning him. This took me literally 5 seconds to find and was the first entry in the search results.
So by your logic, 99% of the population are drug addicts? Sound logic.
"Kids"
Get with the times man! Now days it is eating some Ecstasy tablets and listening to MGMT on your Bluetooth headphones.
Exactly what I was thinking. This sounds like something that could be maliciously exploited and end up biting them in the ass big time.
Welcome to Slashdot, you must be new here!
In case you hadn't noticed, this is a technology site where a large number of people are dedicated to "fucking with stupid shit" on a regular basis. So talking about modding your phone is kind of right up the proverbial alley here...
I have had a personal Google account for years and now the University where I work is switching to Google for mail, calendars, etc. and I want to keep the two accounts separate.
Actually, far from the enemy, China is the chief lender of money that keeps the US afloat. China is so tied to us economically the threat of them becoming our "enemy" is laughable. If they truly wanted to beat the US, all they would need to do is stop loaning the US money and cash in all of their debts to the US. But seeing they own a huge chunk of the US already, it is in their best economic interests to make sure the US is doing okay.
And lighten up Francis - pointing out that the US is good at propaganda (duh) does not make one a "hippie". Do you really think the US isn't good a propaganda, or do you have a quota of people you need to call "hippies" every day? Or do you just think anyone to the left of Glenn Beck is an "ultra-liberal"?
Yes, but this rule does not apply to Apple products. Anyone remember the Cube? Anyone want to buy one as a museum relic? (The one I have has a different video card and an additional fan so no overheating issues.)
If a consumer has a choice between two similar products - one has had more than one safety recall and the other has not, which do you think the consumer will be more likely to choose? Not having to recall your products is better PR than having to do so. Some people will see it as a sign the manufacturer screwed up and will lose a little faith in the company no matter what the reality is.
Toyota wouldn't have spent millions of dollars in fixes and the bad PR from issuing recalls if they themselves didn't have evidence there was some sort of problem that was their fault. It would have been much cheaper for them to claim it was all user error too.
White folks just do it differently - often legally and out in the open. Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Bank of America, Chase, etc.
It really doesn't sound like a very "liberal" idea coming out of Taxachusetts this time. See what happens when Ted Kennedy kicks the bucket?
Now where did I put my Soma pills? Ignorance is such bliss...
It is difficult becasue the cold, dead hands are usually sticky.
A guest who has apparently overstayed his welcome there.
Please point out to me where my "words pointed to only one side being nut jobs". I was not the OP, and my entire point was that not only one side are nutjobs. Talk about blinders. It is obvious you had no clue what I was "getting at" in your responses, or if you did you were deliberately ignoring it. I wasn't assuming you didn't know about right-wing wackos. I was assuming you thought that liberals have a monopoly on fantasy, which is blatantly false. I would have responded exactly the same if you had said "right-wing wackos" instead of "liberals". You can assume I am trying to make one side or the other look better, but you would only be constructing more of your own fantasy as I think both extremes are stupid, and have no interest in making either side look good.
Only humans can complain about being offered a free service that they can choose to use or not use. It is really simple - if you don't like Facebook, don't use it. The rest of us who choose to use it don't care why you don't want to use it just like you don't care why the rest of us do choose to use it.
Apparently you must live somewhere that has no local music scene. Because Facebook is very good at letting bands inform their fans about upcoming shows, posting pictures, and displaying band merchandise, etc. - and all for the cost of zero dollars. Yeah, boy does it suck. I have never used Facebook to try and tell others how "cool" I am, but then again I am over the age of 12, physically and mentally.
So basically you are saying since you don't think Facebook is the most effective way to communicate, nobody else should either.
So you don't like Facebook. Why should you care if others do?
That is all well and dandy, but it isn't what I was getting at. Do you really think that liberals are the only group of people that can construct a skewed version of reality only seeing what they see fit? If so you are just as much in a fantasy world as those "liberals" you claim are doing the same thing. Do you really think that Glenn Beck's inner idea of reality is so much more accurate than Keith Olberman's? Who's fooling who now? I think both of them have very skewed ideas of what is "real" in the world. (Note I do not subscribe to either the "liberal" or "conservative" agendas becasue I think they are both dumb. But I am not so foolish to think either side is worse than the other. They are just opposite sides of the very same coin.)
Yes, the reality is that only liberals are capable of this. You are sure you are not just constructing a world that looks like you want it too, right?
And also for warez. About half of the BBS I frequented back in the 80s were dedicated solely to hosting warez for downloading. They also had message boards and such, but warez was the primary reason for existence for many BBS.