Not sure about solar panels. Building and maintaining a windmill and accidents associated with windmills should not be ignored. Especially if you people count every death as caused by burning coal and gasoline even if there is no proof of that. It is just a matter of using the same methods or else you cannot compare things. You can compare apples and pears if you use a firm method of comparison - shape, taste, color, texture etc. You can compare these. You can compare price. You just take comparable measurements that have been done in well defined way so that anybody can repeat these. If so then number of deaths coal or nuclear caused shall be compared also with people that fell off the windmill while working in engine console. But in times of postmodernist science you do not need to do that, right?
Germany which is officially a rich marxists' paradise can make you buy stuff if you want to drive anywhere. They are already banning vehicles on basis of models not actual data (see Stuttgart and other cities diesel bans) . VW is partially owned by the state of Niedersachsen (North Saxony) so chances are that VW enforcing laws will come into place. Particularly interesting in this context will be the tearing apart their electricity producing infrastructure - while at the same time getting all transport electric. But hey we do not all have to drive. Neither we all have to have access to electricity all the time and smart grid can switch off on basis of payments and possibly party allegiance. Heil Greta!
You mean the models are good now? If so do we have one that predicts the actual future? I mean real one not the future of the model that were left out of the available data so that we have something to try things out. I thought we are nowhere near good models. We have some and we understand some of the stuff. By 'we' I mean rather small group of people. The rest has views and religion to tell them what happens (sea level going up or otherwise). In other words: do we have a model that in 2017 predicted roughly 2018? I mean on the average and not in my village. Do we?
If even wikipedia with its quite strong means of control for bias has a problem with groups of well organized 'activists' then I do not think any scheme like MEPR would work. Maybe we can get something almost working and maybe that is MEPR but that will not, on its own, fix the problem.
indeed.
The problem is - wherever you go, you either have moderating policies that are going direction censorship or you get idiocy like this or if unlucky you get both. Slash has a relatively well done moderating system. the idiocy I have not seen until your post made me unravel it to me - it has a proper score of -1. I go there only if I am moderating.
Is this all that happens - people inciting violence are being silenced? I hear Jordan Peterson's had his invitation of a visiting fellowship at Cambridge University rescinded." I have seen quite some videos of JP but none advised violence. OTOH when a group of white boys from a catholic school has been doxed and received death threats everybody (at least most of media and political class) found this jolly good..I wonder why the discrepancy?
There is more - every time a person starts shouting in German 'alles machbar' there is nothing to see - it is usually a deed by a single disturbed person etc. Here we do not even know for sure who this guy in NZ was - he used language that could be seen as left wing radical, certainly eco-fashists (this is what he called himself) are green and left in my country. Yet we all have to wear headscarf as a sign of solidarity? I do not have anything to do with this guy even if I am a white man. I do not subscribe to acts of senseless violence against other people. I may have a different view when it comes to politicians - after all attempt to kill Adolf is celebrated in some places. What I mean is this: we have a lot of lunatics on the right wing side of political spectrum. We have significantly bigger group of lunatics on the left side however. Plus the violence loving radicals of religion of peace variety do have significant support in their communities - nobody seems to be addressing this issue. Or rather - some people do and get banned. Quite frankly I do not care about chan or whatever the site in question is called. I think however that erosion of our free speech rights have to be discussed. While we are at it we shall also discuss the spread of Marxist ideology in politics, media and academia and we can also touch the problems that love of violence among certain religious community causes. If you want to block all sites that incite violence go ahead and do Please be consistent while doing so!
If the optional feature would have helped we do not know. That the basic automatic 'safety' feature does behave in an erratic way should have been known to B. and they should have taken precaution. I can imagine a meeting of engineers being told to stop discussing this particular issue. VW was dragged into Billions of fines for smaller things that did not (in reality and contrary to hysteric claims) kill anybody. Some of VW managers spend time trying to not drop the soap under the shower now. I wonder if the same happens here.
I use space cookies instead. In fact I do not watch movies then at all and get completely immersed. Last time I had 6 fingers and the other time I got to be a tongue.I think movies especially of today are overvalued.
Och build your own platform is good. Public space is a lawfully recognized term. It used to be applied to places where humans physically congregated - Speakers' corner is a version of that dedicated to making political speeches. Whatsapp is a huge platform - is there any other with similar reach? SImilarily twitter and FB. Some authorities all over the world use these platforms too to communicate with citizens. It is a public space and as soon as it is recognized as such it should behave like one. The speech there should be allowed as long as the law is not broken. Once we cleared that let us move to censorship - you claim that free speech limiting activities are only called censorship when done by government? Possibly only by Republic (if in US) as Democratic one would not limit speech. Without good reason it would not, that is.
Your claims come close to be hypocritical or uninformed.
Is that not so that all models predict increase of surface temperature while the temperature, this beast is a denier?
I actually took time to search for info and that is what it comes down to (*). Why should we spend billions when the science of it is not clear i.e. we are shooting while not seeing the perp. What is worse - most of the effects of the measures I see my government and the 'activists' are pushing have only one thing that one can say about them - they are damned expensive. Some of them are probably outright dangerous on top. Turning off all the coal power plants as well as the nuclear power plants is idiotic for any nation unless the decision makers have diesel generators and do not give a flying f. about the rest of the population.
* - Go and do your own search on it. I did this not because I had doubts 8b humans have no impact but because I was wondering why again and again the news of terrible things that are attributed to global warming proved not to be true. One such case was the sickly polar bear that some 'journalist' made a photo of at the the end of 2014. The recent discussion of so called environmentalists about CO2 and NOx on German streets made me even more angry as they not only have no data to back up their danger claims but also positioned measuring stations deliberately in wrong locations. I have now developed skepticism to all these 'activists' claim. Greta phenomenon is also making me wonder who is manipulating us and for what benefit. So these are the reasons I took time and actually tried to look for it. I am not a scientists so I have no real understanding of all of processes involved of course. As an engineer I have a clue what complexity of modeled processes means however.
My thoughts too. What I saw so far is that services connected to the stuff we made were to be major source of income. That was decades ago. In fact we could see that services were bringing a lots of money. Only the art of the services was overlooked by the BMA drones - that the services were directly linked to the stuff we produced. In other words: if we skip producing stuff we have not much to offer that commands a premium from customers. It is not to say it is not possible to have a profitable service based company. Only this is more difficult than to skip current manufacturing that company has and move on to service sector where market share was directly linked to this manufacturing that we just closed.
Actually I do believe that businesses follow trends which reliefs pressure of the competition in certain decisions till somebody is ready to swim against the tide and has enough power to do so effectively. This means they make decisions not purely based on business benefit but on the group think.
I have seen lots of offshoring in corporations I worked for. This was not done purely because the corporate drones did use the part of the excel sheet with hourly wage as a decision maker. That this is BS I was able to see this week when a skilled staff from Zamunda disabled the hole lab by forcing the upgrade of incorrect SW onto one of key machines. OC if we did not cut costs by not having backup service this would not have been a problem but the back service would have to be prepared by the same workforce that fucked up the lab in the first place which means (according to a responsible manager that ran for help to me) is a waste of time. The ideological drive for more diversity in the workforce (I have already 8nations in 13 persons group) for no reason other than to have diversity is just silly. Albeit here the legal pressures of theocratic views of left/green parties may play a role too (James Damore was legally fired it seems - the appropriate authorities think he is a criminal that should have been fired etc). So there are lots of cases where no business principle or benefit/cost analysis play a role. Quite often group think and laziness are a huge factor.
The policies may or not be helping the (man made or not) global warming or rather change of climate. However to hope that renewables will completely replace other sources is rather silly. At least for the moment. The experiment EU did in El Hierro was what some called 'partial' success. The aim to provide 100% energy from renewables was a fail. Currently the wiki article on the subject ends the following way: "In early 2018, El Hierro covered its entire electricity demand between the 25th of January and the 12th of February with its renewable resource base, avoiding the use of polluting energy sources for over more than 560 hours in 2018 - and a total of almost 2,000 hours since it started operating." Whether it is cost effective or not it did not manage to get above 50% of yearly needs. The savings depend strongly on oil price as the complementary or rather main load comes from diesel generators. Germany where green marxism is a ruling ideology (in my view at least it looks like religion or any other totalitarian ideological system) the networks are regularly on the verge of collapse and parts of the system have to be switched off on almost regular base. Depending on whether electricity intensive factories like aluminum smelters continue their existence or not we may have part of the short term energy storage there as the smelter can be switched off for an hour or so w/o damage. They do it on regular basis these days and get money for doing so. Smart meters that EU commission wants us all to have may make such maneuvers more plausible thus avoiding complete blackouts. So yes we can move to renewables and we will pay much much more for them in terms of direct costs per energy unit. We will also pay for this in terms of energy security and complexity. German media do preparatory work already to blame blackouts on Putin and Hackers.
Just to make it clear - I think energy should be as clean as possible and we should not waste. Yet the effects of these efforts are minuscule and the inertia in the system called earth will make the whole thing continue in its trajectory so if one is expecting the flooding seas and terrible things because of global warming one should possibly prepare flooding walls instead of putting solar panels and windmills everywhere.
Not sure if I qualify as elderly - I do remember msdos and communists rule so I guess that is a big YES. Maybe that clarifies why I find the network settings so annoying. I have to change things manually when I go to the lab and connect to some debug interfaces. This is a major pain in the butt so I ended up using wifi in the office and cable for all other things and do not touch the settings at all. control panel is in startup now because this is easier too. The funniest for me however is the realization that IT guy who gave this new win10 laptop to me was right - win10 uses less resources. At least if you do not look too closely. The constant delays and stubborn 'hanging' apps went away after I switched all optimizations off that I could find. I asked the IT to give my old win7 laptop back but they just laughed. It is the first time I have problems with new system that are so persistent and go back in terms what you get for the money.
I agree that from certain perspective we (as a human race) had some advancement to report. But the gains of Enlightenment are under serious threat, at least in the West with all the gonad science crossed with marxism overwhelming every possible branch of life including science. There are some exceptions but there does not seem to be a possibility to escape.
Looking for answers in google may not be the best. It s just a start as many already pointed out. A bit more sophisticated search gets you into the world of dictionaries - yes I am old enough to recall dead tree versions of that - in fact I still have a massive unabridged webster - old enough not to have a PC in it, for sure Gender mainstreaming is not there! one more reason to keep it! But I digress. I looked up webster online - not much there although there is a hint that this is more general expression 'carved/set/etched in stone'. idioms.thefreedictionary.com has an entry for cast in stone:
cast in stone
Also, etched in stone. Definite, fixed, as in We may choose to stay longer-our plans aren't cast in stone, or When Carl sets an agenda you can safely assume it's etched in stone. Both expressions allude to sculpture, with the first, from the early 1500s, using the verb cast in the sense of pouring and hardening some material into a final form, and the second cutting or corroding a permanent design.
I would not say the mistery is solved but as they used to say where I come from: you can tell the master when you look at his tools. Just a side note - I have used duckduckgo for original search. m-w site I use for ages sometimes just out of curiosity. Language is the first most important tool of humanity. Pity that these days it gets sabotaged by PC mafia but that is another story.
Putin. Try to call Putin - judging by mass hysteria surrounding few posts in social media in 2016 I would think that if he waves his dick in the right direction he may achieve anything icluding protecting us all from man made global warming. Come to think of it maybe man made global warming was meant to be a situation in which Putin by waving his dick caused massive increase in surface temperature on earth - him stopping that as a protection measure may be just the right thing to do to save us all! So call Vowa - if the line is busy try to call later but do call!
You do not have to be a specialist to realize that given the conditions (esp. political ones but also the natural ones - the physical inertia of the natural systems due to their size) it is better to act on assumption the climate will change in particular direction than trying to switch off all reliable power plants. Dutch increasing the level of flood protection (Blade Runner 2049 style) is reasonable if one were to believe in man made global warming while German switching off their last reliable power plants by 2038 is just silly shit by ignorants.
I do not think it is a conspiracy. What I think is that mass hysteria makes it difficult to have any meaningful discussion on the subject of changing climate. It is all in the open which makes it difficult for anybody to claim conspiracy.
I agree - the threats raised by greens are too big to be ignored. These cretins managed to ban all reliable sources of energy in my country by 2038. If that is left standing we may hope that our neighbours will not cut us off the European grid to prevent massive instability - better blackout in Germany only than everywhere (the situation is already difficult in winter months because of the amount of energy that renewables do not produce then). The good thing is when storms hit the wind parks we have to pay our neighbours to take the superfluous energy. Green is dangerous indeed.
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Not sure about solar panels. Building and maintaining a windmill and accidents associated with windmills should not be ignored. Especially if you people count every death as caused by burning coal and gasoline even if there is no proof of that. It is just a matter of using the same methods or else you cannot compare things. You can compare apples and pears if you use a firm method of comparison - shape, taste, color, texture etc. You can compare these. You can compare price. You just take comparable measurements that have been done in well defined way so that anybody can repeat these. If so then number of deaths coal or nuclear caused shall be compared also with people that fell off the windmill while working in engine console. But in times of postmodernist science you do not need to do that, right?
Germany which is officially a rich marxists' paradise can make you buy stuff if you want to drive anywhere. They are already banning vehicles on basis of models not actual data (see Stuttgart and other cities diesel bans) . VW is partially owned by the state of Niedersachsen (North Saxony) so chances are that VW enforcing laws will come into place. Particularly interesting in this context will be the tearing apart their electricity producing infrastructure - while at the same time getting all transport electric. But hey we do not all have to drive. Neither we all have to have access to electricity all the time and smart grid can switch off on basis of payments and possibly party allegiance. Heil Greta!
for this nonsense. Facts and logic? Too complex - we are busy humping with Greta T. here. Get lost!
You mean the models are good now? If so do we have one that predicts the actual future? I mean real one not the future of the model that were left out of the available data so that we have something to try things out. I thought we are nowhere near good models. We have some and we understand some of the stuff. By 'we' I mean rather small group of people. The rest has views and religion to tell them what happens (sea level going up or otherwise). In other words: do we have a model that in 2017 predicted roughly 2018? I mean on the average and not in my village. Do we?
If even wikipedia with its quite strong means of control for bias has a problem with groups of well organized 'activists' then I do not think any scheme like MEPR would work. Maybe we can get something almost working and maybe that is MEPR but that will not, on its own, fix the problem.
not all pilgrims here are enlightened tho.
indeed. The problem is - wherever you go, you either have moderating policies that are going direction censorship or you get idiocy like this or if unlucky you get both. Slash has a relatively well done moderating system. the idiocy I have not seen until your post made me unravel it to me - it has a proper score of -1. I go there only if I am moderating.
Looked like a basement of nuclear power plant.
Is this all that happens - people inciting violence are being silenced? I hear Jordan Peterson's had his invitation of a visiting fellowship at Cambridge University rescinded." I have seen quite some videos of JP but none advised violence. OTOH when a group of white boys from a catholic school has been doxed and received death threats everybody (at least most of media and political class) found this jolly good..I wonder why the discrepancy?
There is more - every time a person starts shouting in German 'alles machbar' there is nothing to see - it is usually a deed by a single disturbed person etc. Here we do not even know for sure who this guy in NZ was - he used language that could be seen as left wing radical, certainly eco-fashists (this is what he called himself) are green and left in my country. Yet we all have to wear headscarf as a sign of solidarity? I do not have anything to do with this guy even if I am a white man. I do not subscribe to acts of senseless violence against other people. I may have a different view when it comes to politicians - after all attempt to kill Adolf is celebrated in some places. What I mean is this: we have a lot of lunatics on the right wing side of political spectrum. We have significantly bigger group of lunatics on the left side however. Plus the violence loving radicals of religion of peace variety do have significant support in their communities - nobody seems to be addressing this issue. Or rather - some people do and get banned. Quite frankly I do not care about chan or whatever the site in question is called. I think however that erosion of our free speech rights have to be discussed. While we are at it we shall also discuss the spread of Marxist ideology in politics, media and academia and we can also touch the problems that love of violence among certain religious community causes.
If you want to block all sites that incite violence go ahead and do Please be consistent while doing so!
If the optional feature would have helped we do not know.
That the basic automatic 'safety' feature does behave in an erratic way should have been known to B. and they should have taken precaution. I can imagine a meeting of engineers being told to stop discussing this particular issue. VW was dragged into Billions of fines for smaller things that did not (in reality and contrary to hysteric claims) kill anybody. Some of VW managers spend time trying to not drop the soap under the shower now. I wonder if the same happens here.
where was that? In Paris maybe? //
I use space cookies instead. In fact I do not watch movies then at all and get completely immersed. Last time I had 6 fingers and the other time I got to be a tongue.I think movies especially of today are overvalued.
Och build your own platform is good. Public space is a lawfully recognized term. It used to be applied to places where humans physically congregated - Speakers' corner is a version of that dedicated to making political speeches. Whatsapp is a huge platform - is there any other with similar reach? SImilarily twitter and FB. Some authorities all over the world use these platforms too to communicate with citizens. It is a public space and as soon as it is recognized as such it should behave like one. The speech there should be allowed as long as the law is not broken. Once we cleared that let us move to censorship - you claim that free speech limiting activities are only called censorship when done by government? Possibly only by Republic (if in US) as Democratic one would not limit speech. Without good reason it would not, that is.
Your claims come close to be hypocritical or uninformed.
I actually took time to search for info and that is what it comes down to (*). Why should we spend billions when the science of it is not clear i.e. we are shooting while not seeing the perp. What is worse - most of the effects of the measures I see my government and the 'activists' are pushing have only one thing that one can say about them - they are damned expensive. Some of them are probably outright dangerous on top. Turning off all the coal power plants as well as the nuclear power plants is idiotic for any nation unless the decision makers have diesel generators and do not give a flying f. about the rest of the population.
* - Go and do your own search on it. I did this not because I had doubts 8b humans have no impact but because I was wondering why again and again the news of terrible things that are attributed to global warming proved not to be true. One such case was the sickly polar bear that some 'journalist' made a photo of at the the end of 2014. The recent discussion of so called environmentalists about CO2 and NOx on German streets made me even more angry as they not only have no data to back up their danger claims but also positioned measuring stations deliberately in wrong locations. I have now developed skepticism to all these 'activists' claim. Greta phenomenon is also making me wonder who is manipulating us and for what benefit. So these are the reasons I took time and actually tried to look for it. I am not a scientists so I have no real understanding of all of processes involved of course. As an engineer I have a clue what complexity of modeled processes means however.
My thoughts too. What I saw so far is that services connected to the stuff we made were to be major source of income. That was decades ago. In fact we could see that services were bringing a lots of money. Only the art of the services was overlooked by the BMA drones - that the services were directly linked to the stuff we produced. In other words: if we skip producing stuff we have not much to offer that commands a premium from customers. It is not to say it is not possible to have a profitable service based company. Only this is more difficult than to skip current manufacturing that company has and move on to service sector where market share was directly linked to this manufacturing that we just closed.
Actually I do believe that businesses follow trends which reliefs pressure of the competition in certain decisions till somebody is ready to swim against the tide and has enough power to do so effectively. This means they make decisions not purely based on business benefit but on the group think.
I have seen lots of offshoring in corporations I worked for. This was not done purely because the corporate drones did use the part of the excel sheet with hourly wage as a decision maker. That this is BS I was able to see this week when a skilled staff from Zamunda disabled the hole lab by forcing the upgrade of incorrect SW onto one of key machines. OC if we did not cut costs by not having backup service this would not have been a problem but the back service would have to be prepared by the same workforce that fucked up the lab in the first place which means (according to a responsible manager that ran for help to me) is a waste of time. The ideological drive for more diversity in the workforce (I have already 8nations in 13 persons group) for no reason other than to have diversity is just silly. Albeit here the legal pressures of theocratic views of left/green parties may play a role too (James Damore was legally fired it seems - the appropriate authorities think he is a criminal that should have been fired etc). So there are lots of cases where no business principle or benefit/cost analysis play a role. Quite often group think and laziness are a huge factor.
The policies may or not be helping the (man made or not) global warming or rather change of climate. However to hope that renewables will completely replace other sources is rather silly. At least for the moment. The experiment EU did in El Hierro was what some called 'partial' success. The aim to provide 100% energy from renewables was a fail. Currently the wiki article on the subject ends the following way: "In early 2018, El Hierro covered its entire electricity demand between the 25th of January and the 12th of February with its renewable resource base, avoiding the use of polluting energy sources for over more than 560 hours in 2018 - and a total of almost 2,000 hours since it started operating."
Whether it is cost effective or not it did not manage to get above 50% of yearly needs. The savings depend strongly on oil price as the complementary or rather main load comes from diesel generators. Germany where green marxism is a ruling ideology (in my view at least it looks like religion or any other totalitarian ideological system) the networks are regularly on the verge of collapse and parts of the system have to be switched off on almost regular base. Depending on whether electricity intensive factories like aluminum smelters continue their existence or not we may have part of the short term energy storage there as the smelter can be switched off for an hour or so w/o damage. They do it on regular basis these days and get money for doing so. Smart meters that EU commission wants us all to have may make such maneuvers more plausible thus avoiding complete blackouts. So yes we can move to renewables and we will pay much much more for them in terms of direct costs per energy unit. We will also pay for this in terms of energy security and complexity. German media do preparatory work already to blame blackouts on Putin and Hackers.
Just to make it clear - I think energy should be as clean as possible and we should not waste. Yet the effects of these efforts are minuscule and the inertia in the system called earth will make the whole thing continue in its trajectory so if one is expecting the flooding seas and terrible things because of global warming one should possibly prepare flooding walls instead of putting solar panels and windmills everywhere.
Not sure if I qualify as elderly - I do remember msdos and communists rule so I guess that is a big YES. Maybe that clarifies why I find the network settings so annoying. I have to change things manually when I go to the lab and connect to some debug interfaces. This is a major pain in the butt so I ended up using wifi in the office and cable for all other things and do not touch the settings at all. control panel is in startup now because this is easier too. The funniest for me however is the realization that IT guy who gave this new win10 laptop to me was right - win10 uses less resources. At least if you do not look too closely. The constant delays and stubborn 'hanging' apps went away after I switched all optimizations off that I could find.
I asked the IT to give my old win7 laptop back but they just laughed. It is the first time I have problems with new system that are so persistent and go back in terms what you get for the money.
I agree that from certain perspective we (as a human race) had some advancement to report. But the gains of Enlightenment are under serious threat, at least in the West with all the gonad science crossed with marxism overwhelming every possible branch of life including science. There are some exceptions but there does not seem to be a possibility to escape.
cast in stone
Also, etched in stone. Definite, fixed, as in We may choose to stay longer-our plans aren't cast in stone, or When Carl sets an agenda you can safely assume it's etched in stone. Both expressions allude to sculpture, with the first, from the early 1500s, using the verb cast in the sense of pouring and hardening some material into a final form, and the second cutting or corroding a permanent design.
I would not say the mistery is solved but as they used to say where I come from: you can tell the master when you look at his tools. Just a side note - I have used duckduckgo for original search. m-w site I use for ages sometimes just out of curiosity. Language is the first most important tool of humanity. Pity that these days it gets sabotaged by PC mafia but that is another story.
Putin. Try to call Putin - judging by mass hysteria surrounding few posts in social media in 2016 I would think that if he waves his dick in the right direction he may achieve anything icluding protecting us all from man made global warming. Come to think of it maybe man made global warming was meant to be a situation in which Putin by waving his dick caused massive increase in surface temperature on earth - him stopping that as a protection measure may be just the right thing to do to save us all! So call Vowa - if the line is busy try to call later but do call!
You do not have to be a specialist to realize that given the conditions (esp. political ones but also the natural ones - the physical inertia of the natural systems due to their size) it is better to act on assumption the climate will change in particular direction than trying to switch off all reliable power plants. Dutch increasing the level of flood protection (Blade Runner 2049 style) is reasonable if one were to believe in man made global warming while German switching off their last reliable power plants by 2038 is just silly shit by ignorants.
I do not think it is a conspiracy. What I think is that mass hysteria makes it difficult to have any meaningful discussion on the subject of changing climate. It is all in the open which makes it difficult for anybody to claim conspiracy.
I agree - the threats raised by greens are too big to be ignored. These cretins managed to ban all reliable sources of energy in my country by 2038. If that is left standing we may hope that our neighbours will not cut us off the European grid to prevent massive instability - better blackout in Germany only than everywhere (the situation is already difficult in winter months because of the amount of energy that renewables do not produce then). The good thing is when storms hit the wind parks we have to pay our neighbours to take the superfluous energy. Green is dangerous indeed.
contrary to common belief there is not much protein there. Go on indulge as you please.