Quite frankly 2017 was a year in which I stopped believing in most of what I see taking only as a clue something happened. Some person (or bot) claims some account on twitter or a real person is a nazi - ok this may or not be true - the only information I got from that that I can evaluate is, that there is a person that feels something about some people and this feeling is strong enough to call some people nazis. Come to think of it, man made global warming can be fake news too. I am not saying it is but there are signs that everybody is lying and the few persons that legitimately and honestly try to warn about some real danger (this being nazi or global ecology disaster) cannot be identified in the noise. If so then we can just as well let the bots discuss things. The time of reason is over.
In case of Israel the question is not whether your state behaves like an arse but what would have happened if you tried to live by your principles of open society with each citizen respecting others etc.? How do you think it would take to end up in a shithole the other states around are? I say this even if I disagree with building of the wall and settlements on territories not belonging to Israel. It does not help that you or even the whole of Israel unilaterally declare peace and love - they will come and do things to you. This is said state of affairs there. Not sure why that is so. It may have something to do with faith and the fact that some Arabs have too much money for nothing in form of oil (I wonder however what happens when overcrowded Saudi Arabia etc cannot sustain its growing population with oil profits anymore - is another but related issue).
I mean the pollution is something that we know exists. In cases these doctors discuss the pollution is in fact so bad that one can see its undesirable effects on oneself which for any reasonable individual would mean to move away at least for pregnancy or avoid pregnancy in the first place. I agree avoiding pollution may not be within the reach of people but condoms should be. We try hard to get pollution in already relatively clean western cities down whereas the actual problem is overpopulation elsewhere.
Maybe not all feminists of today are nazis but many vocal ones are. I have not heard one voice from feminist camp that would at least try to get some reason and facts. At this stage it is impossible to even agree on some basics anymore. I hope we get trough this without much use of stakes and other 'final solution' methods used successfully to end 'arguments' of the past.
and usually failing at choosing 'proper' one. You need an amazing grokking capacity to actually get over your autistic inability to understand what people feel. Neuronorms do not bother explaining things so they have less problems with this.
I suppose burning the guy at the stake may do either of two things: stop the idiocy because people get scared of what has happened and forced to think it over again or accelerate the said idiocy because of the great success his burning would be. There seems to be a constant pattern in workings of human societies - mass hysteria. We fall for it over and over again.
Well when technology makes men obsolete for procreation the problem will disappear eventually. I am not saying somebody is working with this specific goal but eventually it will happen.
You have not debunked anything he said. NB the article in TE is just a biased BS typical of TE these days. The publication deteriorated much under new editor/owners.
what does that at all mean? If I select a target by seeing it and tell robot to do the job now by pressing fire button which consequently release the high energy projectile to penetrate the meatball I am clearly in charge or? What about the photo and other data that led to target selection being produced by data mining AI? Is a human still in charge? What if we automate that one human out of picture and put another one in front of data mining machine authorizing the selection of meatbags to be eliminated. What about a process in which selection and fire button action are divided in time by hours from the actual penetration of a meatbag trough projectile because the robot had to be given order before entering the zone without coms? At the end it does not matter, does it.
In-N-Out is a reference to an activity keeping our species going. It requires frequent in and out action for a short while. You just need to watch yourself and get a written agreement of all participants for a case 30y later when you may occupy a position of power to exonerate yourself. But that is another story.
Same in Germany. There is not enough of doctors here so waiting time to some specialists is ridiculous but the schools do not increase the number of seats.
You can also see a club back then as a fair way of fighting as another club was usually at hand. If social media warriors decide you to be an evil man (usually but there are plenty of female victims too) you cannot do much. You may in fact lose a job, friends and see your family get away from you. But hey we are all better off as a society right? The clubbing back then gave you at least some chance to get at one of your attackers how do you do it with internet mob of vigilantes?
This is actually incorrect or at least it is not an explicit wish or intention to show it off to all when one puts something 'on FB' even if at the end it is almost the final result and something that one could have predicted. OTOH as indicated elsewhere the fact that quite some people are part of FB universe they may have data on almost everybody else albeit not as deep as it is for people taking active part in it. The fact that there are different jurisdictions where the physical servers are hosted and IP traffic knows no borders (except corporate and state firewalls which do not cover all) means that it is almost impossible to prevent publication of certain data. The retaliation of the state against people doing so is late and not certain and to be expected only in cases when persons complaining have some status and power. Removal of such data is all but impossible for normal humans. Whether we want or not this is becoming a reality for more and more people exactly because not participating is becoming impossible as unrelated to own decisions.
FB runs a program identifying people on photos uploaded to it. This means that as soon as somebody does that to you, you are associated with FB. There is a FB crap on almost any webpage you visit. There are government services that are available only or mainly trough FB. There is no way you can escape this and I am sure similar can be said about others. You can of course hope that gov. has some interest in protecting its citizens (who pay for this service) from too much intrusion. These companies have more money in their vaults than some states do. So here it comes - corporate is as bad as state run. We allowed these companies grow so big that any protection can only come from another giant.
I thought that putting FB into manually modified hosts file and registering an empty (not used) account with my name at FB is enough but my kids use Whatsapp so I do it too.
The GP mail is an exaggeration. OTOH to get to Nuernberg 70+ ya was an act of angry and unforgiving people (and who can blame them back then). Maybe FB deserve the anger that GP feels. I can understand it - for those of us who realize what is going on and who are used to some degree of privacy current developments are a show of frustrating loss of influence over data about own life.
If the going is good why not expand. Bacteria do it, humans do it, companies do it, shares dealers do it. Once the border of the petry dish is reached a collapse or correction occurs. There is a desire to get out of the boost/bust cycle but similar to forest fires - keeping small ones away makes the next one an all destroying monster fire. In a sense boost moment is just a point where a heap of crap collected for quite some time exceeds its physical capacity to hold together and collapses. The question is: at what point you intervene and how (that are 2 questions actually). Completely preventing them you can - by enforcing a regime like in NK I suppose that works too only for limited length of time.
This is not his fault - he has been indoctrinated, starting from school following trough with media coverage of all that is even slightly challenging to the ruling elite as nazis. Some of them may be but we will never know because instead of a factual discussion a mud throwing (you are a nazi!) is usually taking place. This result is a mental disease affecting huge parts of population that makes actual intolerance and other threats to open society go unchecked. The usual mass hysteria that affects societies from time to time. The currently common approach to 'discussing' issues i.e. pressing on emotions instead of using facts and reason makes any meaningful conversation difficult and causes real life losses - UK politician accused of misconduct committed a suicide this week.. Germans I am afraid are specially affected in right wing over-sensitivity making them incapable to protect open society that they once had.
Maybe not but then there are ruling dynasties in USA too. There was this study some time ago claiming USA is an oligarchy which is just as bad as monarchy I think. I also think most of so called western democracies are oligarchies too. Whether such political constructs can be capable of a reform I am not sure. USA failed at that and now they have Trump and sink in hysteria. Maybe that is just as it must be?
I do not want to spoil the party but president can only ask parliament to repeal an act of law. So he is maybe lousy at doing acts of law but he is trying at least. It does not make him a better president of course but makes your argument rather silly.
That all around agree on something is not really a good argument. If they can convince me of something using arguments then ok.
That all officially recognized governments but that of US agree on something means shit - Germany of them all is not going to fulfill its duty signed into the treaty unless it stops its industries and not even Greens in the government are going to do something about it.
Assuming that big countries do follow the treaty this still does not stop 'small' countries in say Africa to eat mean and buy stuff - both of the activities cause massive CO2 and methane production.
Coming back to Africa - Zika virus if successful could have been bigger planet savior than a silly treaty. I am not saying we should go this way but the billion of Chinese that are not there due to 1 child policy are bigger contributor to saving the earth than any other nonsense few politicians invented between an exclusive dinner and the night at the opera.
This does not make Trump better president (he is still not worse than Obama the peace maker whose only achievement was saving finance world but that was initiated by the Jr before him) but signing it does not make our planet a better place.
One more thing calling others idiots is not such a good argument as you apparently think,
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Quite frankly 2017 was a year in which I stopped believing in most of what I see taking only as a clue something happened. Some person (or bot) claims some account on twitter or a real person is a nazi - ok this may or not be true - the only information I got from that that I can evaluate is, that there is a person that feels something about some people and this feeling is strong enough to call some people nazis. Come to think of it, man made global warming can be fake news too. I am not saying it is but there are signs that everybody is lying and the few persons that legitimately and honestly try to warn about some real danger (this being nazi or global ecology disaster) cannot be identified in the noise. If so then we can just as well let the bots discuss things. The time of reason is over.
You mean we do not need to clearly determine who is what and just act on a group in a group punishments sort of way? Wait have we not had that before?
People are gullible so trust will not go away. There are many coins these days so people will transfer to more 'trustable' once after a crash.
In case of Israel the question is not whether your state behaves like an arse but what would have happened if you tried to live by your principles of open society with each citizen respecting others etc.? How do you think it would take to end up in a shithole the other states around are? I say this even if I disagree with building of the wall and settlements on territories not belonging to Israel. It does not help that you or even the whole of Israel unilaterally declare peace and love - they will come and do things to you. This is said state of affairs there. Not sure why that is so. It may have something to do with faith and the fact that some Arabs have too much money for nothing in form of oil (I wonder however what happens when overcrowded Saudi Arabia etc cannot sustain its growing population with oil profits anymore - is another but related issue).
I mean the pollution is something that we know exists. In cases these doctors discuss the pollution is in fact so bad that one can see its undesirable effects on oneself which for any reasonable individual would mean to move away at least for pregnancy or avoid pregnancy in the first place. I agree avoiding pollution may not be within the reach of people but condoms should be. We try hard to get pollution in already relatively clean western cities down whereas the actual problem is overpopulation elsewhere.
But it is good that the fire under our butts when we burn at the stake will be CO2 neutral and environmentaly friendly.
Maybe not all feminists of today are nazis but many vocal ones are. I have not heard one voice from feminist camp that would at least try to get some reason and facts. At this stage it is impossible to even agree on some basics anymore. I hope we get trough this without much use of stakes and other 'final solution' methods used successfully to end 'arguments' of the past.
And this slur got upvoted? Gee this puts all moderators in disrepute.
and usually failing at choosing 'proper' one. You need an amazing grokking capacity to actually get over your autistic inability to understand what people feel. Neuronorms do not bother explaining things so they have less problems with this.
I suppose burning the guy at the stake may do either of two things: stop the idiocy because people get scared of what has happened and forced to think it over again or accelerate the said idiocy because of the great success his burning would be. There seems to be a constant pattern in workings of human societies - mass hysteria. We fall for it over and over again.
Well when technology makes men obsolete for procreation the problem will disappear eventually. I am not saying somebody is working with this specific goal but eventually it will happen.
You have not debunked anything he said. NB the article in TE is just a biased BS typical of TE these days. The publication deteriorated much under new editor/owners.
what does that at all mean? If I select a target by seeing it and tell robot to do the job now by pressing fire button which consequently release the high energy projectile to penetrate the meatball I am clearly in charge or? What about the photo and other data that led to target selection being produced by data mining AI? Is a human still in charge? What if we automate that one human out of picture and put another one in front of data mining machine authorizing the selection of meatbags to be eliminated. What about a process in which selection and fire button action are divided in time by hours from the actual penetration of a meatbag trough projectile because the robot had to be given order before entering the zone without coms? At the end it does not matter, does it.
In-N-Out is a reference to an activity keeping our species going. It requires frequent in and out action for a short while. You just need to watch yourself and get a written agreement of all participants for a case 30y later when you may occupy a position of power to exonerate yourself. But that is another story.
Same in Germany. There is not enough of doctors here so waiting time to some specialists is ridiculous but the schools do not increase the number of seats.
STEM != IT
How about taking the exit when one of tesla highway trains goes on and on making it impossible to get out on time?
You can also see a club back then as a fair way of fighting as another club was usually at hand. If social media warriors decide you to be an evil man (usually but there are plenty of female victims too) you cannot do much. You may in fact lose a job, friends and see your family get away from you. But hey we are all better off as a society right? The clubbing back then gave you at least some chance to get at one of your attackers how do you do it with internet mob of vigilantes?
This is actually incorrect or at least it is not an explicit wish or intention to show it off to all when one puts something 'on FB' even if at the end it is almost the final result and something that one could have predicted. OTOH as indicated elsewhere the fact that quite some people are part of FB universe they may have data on almost everybody else albeit not as deep as it is for people taking active part in it. The fact that there are different jurisdictions where the physical servers are hosted and IP traffic knows no borders (except corporate and state firewalls which do not cover all) means that it is almost impossible to prevent publication of certain data. The retaliation of the state against people doing so is late and not certain and to be expected only in cases when persons complaining have some status and power. Removal of such data is all but impossible for normal humans. Whether we want or not this is becoming a reality for more and more people exactly because not participating is becoming impossible as unrelated to own decisions.
FB runs a program identifying people on photos uploaded to it. This means that as soon as somebody does that to you, you are associated with FB. There is a FB crap on almost any webpage you visit. There are government services that are available only or mainly trough FB. There is no way you can escape this and I am sure similar can be said about others. You can of course hope that gov. has some interest in protecting its citizens (who pay for this service) from too much intrusion. These companies have more money in their vaults than some states do. So here it comes - corporate is as bad as state run. We allowed these companies grow so big that any protection can only come from another giant. I thought that putting FB into manually modified hosts file and registering an empty (not used) account with my name at FB is enough but my kids use Whatsapp so I do it too. The GP mail is an exaggeration. OTOH to get to Nuernberg 70+ ya was an act of angry and unforgiving people (and who can blame them back then). Maybe FB deserve the anger that GP feels. I can understand it - for those of us who realize what is going on and who are used to some degree of privacy current developments are a show of frustrating loss of influence over data about own life.
If the going is good why not expand. Bacteria do it, humans do it, companies do it, shares dealers do it. Once the border of the petry dish is reached a collapse or correction occurs. There is a desire to get out of the boost/bust cycle but similar to forest fires - keeping small ones away makes the next one an all destroying monster fire. In a sense boost moment is just a point where a heap of crap collected for quite some time exceeds its physical capacity to hold together and collapses. The question is: at what point you intervene and how (that are 2 questions actually). Completely preventing them you can - by enforcing a regime like in NK I suppose that works too only for limited length of time.
This is not his fault - he has been indoctrinated, starting from school following trough with media coverage of all that is even slightly challenging to the ruling elite as nazis. Some of them may be but we will never know because instead of a factual discussion a mud throwing (you are a nazi!) is usually taking place. This result is a mental disease affecting huge parts of population that makes actual intolerance and other threats to open society go unchecked. The usual mass hysteria that affects societies from time to time. The currently common approach to 'discussing' issues i.e. pressing on emotions instead of using facts and reason makes any meaningful conversation difficult and causes real life losses - UK politician accused of misconduct committed a suicide this week.. Germans I am afraid are specially affected in right wing over-sensitivity making them incapable to protect open society that they once had.
Maybe not but then there are ruling dynasties in USA too. There was this study some time ago claiming USA is an oligarchy which is just as bad as monarchy I think. I also think most of so called western democracies are oligarchies too. Whether such political constructs can be capable of a reform I am not sure. USA failed at that and now they have Trump and sink in hysteria. Maybe that is just as it must be?
I do not want to spoil the party but president can only ask parliament to repeal an act of law. So he is maybe lousy at doing acts of law but he is trying at least. It does not make him a better president of course but makes your argument rather silly.
That all around agree on something is not really a good argument. If they can convince me of something using arguments then ok. That all officially recognized governments but that of US agree on something means shit - Germany of them all is not going to fulfill its duty signed into the treaty unless it stops its industries and not even Greens in the government are going to do something about it. Assuming that big countries do follow the treaty this still does not stop 'small' countries in say Africa to eat mean and buy stuff - both of the activities cause massive CO2 and methane production. Coming back to Africa - Zika virus if successful could have been bigger planet savior than a silly treaty. I am not saying we should go this way but the billion of Chinese that are not there due to 1 child policy are bigger contributor to saving the earth than any other nonsense few politicians invented between an exclusive dinner and the night at the opera. This does not make Trump better president (he is still not worse than Obama the peace maker whose only achievement was saving finance world but that was initiated by the Jr before him) but signing it does not make our planet a better place. One more thing calling others idiots is not such a good argument as you apparently think,