The justifications for getting an on-campus education are getting flimsier and more pathetic by the minute.
Keep on telling yourself that.
What would you say of someone who went to school phsyically, but did not stay in resident housing? What about someone with their own condo?
If they have their own condo, either their parents have a good deal of cash, or they will have a bunch of room-mates anyway, even though they aren't in the dorm.
Someone who lives at home with their parents?
If someone can find a decent university within commuting distance of their parent's house, can stand to be living with their parents at the age of 22, and have a good enough relationship with their parents that they will be allowed to live there all that time, then good for them.
Or are you only going to hire someone rich enough to afford 4 years of campus living?
In the United States, if you cannot afford the cost of college but can keep up even moderate grades, you can easily get government-subsidized loans. My Dad makes decent money and I was still able to get government loans. You don't need to be rich to go to college, you just need to be moderately intellegent and have enough dedication to put off your life for a while.
Lastly do you think university is the only place where one can learn social skills?
No. The military is another good place to go. If you served a few years as an enlistedman, and have an honorable discharge, you generally won't have that much trouble getting a real job either.
What if the person has them already?
Feel free to put on your resume, "Education: None, but don't worry, I have people skills already."
If all a University eduaction is worth is "social skills"...
That isn't all a college degree is worth, but it is an important part.
... then you might as well enroll at Club Med for 4 years.
I don't see how sitting poolside telling people to get you another drink for four years would improve your social skills.
Or backpack around the world.
I also don't see how not staying around the same people or in the same place for more than a week or two would build your social skills.
Fuck the actual education and knowledge, the merit and achievement...
"How much better it is to get wisdom than gold! and to get understanding rather to be chosen than silver!" -- Proverbs 16:16.
... the world's just one big high school clique; either you're out or you're in!
There were drunken girls getting into my room in the middle of the night because I forgot to lock the door. Sometimes I think I could hear people having sex right in the hallway.
That's one of the best parts of college!
One way to tolerate people you don't like is to deal them on a professional basis only. Living with them makes it personal and shows your ability to handle personal, not professional, situations.
If you are with a group of people for 8+ hours a day for 5 days a week, it will become personal. That is why MBA's with no real knowledge but plenty of people skills can make it so well in this world. One is leader of the free world right now. MBA's with no people skills, however, get stuck in middle-management hell for the rest of their working lives.
A lot of "real" colleges and universities are making more and more stuff available via distance/online education programs these days, as well. So maybe you can get a degree from a school that'll make the PHB's happy, while not having to spend too much time on campus.
That is why, when you interview someone, you should ask innocous but highly informative questions about the education, such as "Were you in a frat/sorority? Did you live in the dorms, or off-campus? Who was your (least) favorite professor?" That way, they will either have to tell you that they didn't go to a real school, or lie to you. If they lie, they obviously don't get the job, and it is easy to find out too. If they tell you honestly, then it shouldn't be viewed as too much of a negative for them, but not on the level of a real university. Much of the real value of university is not in the coursework, especially if you get a degree in something like history, but rather in seeing if you can handle being with people that you don't necessarily like for extended periods of time, which is why joining a frat or sorority is so helpful for getting a job, or dorm life too.
No kidding. Just about every article posted here for about the last year or two has had at least one "beowulf cluster" joke posted by some idiot. I didn't really find it all that funny the first time I saw one, and I most definitely don't find it funny now, which is probably around the 2,000th time I've seen the same damned joke. The sad thing is, I know a lot of the people who are posting these actually think they are being funny. They're like a 5-year-old kid who keeps on telling you the same knock-knock joke twenty times a day.
... and with the new TI's and their ability to display the entire equation after you've entered it in what I call "human readable format", I can be assured that I entered the equation correctly.
On the HP 48G (the 48S too?) and up, which has been out for about a decade now, you can actually enter the equation in in a graphical way with the equation writer. The TI-89 and TI-92(+) only allow you to look at it after you have entered it in.
According to this page HP will be releasing the 49G Real Soon Now(tm).
Thanks for the heads up, for a while there I thought that HP was really going to drop their calculators for good. I just pre-ordered a 49G+. I spilt coffee into my 49G about a year ago, and had to dust off my old 48GX for my last two semesters at university.
'remote control ' is not a device, it is a function,
"Remote control" is what americans call that fun little device with all the buttons on it that allows us to switch between 60 channels without standing up. It really should be called a "remote controller" I guess though. Welcome to the English Language, spoken by people who will not be bossed around by whiny little English teachers.
Don't feel too bad, it also ignores ¢, otherwise I would have used it instead of $0.xx. Speaking of which, does the euro symbol go before or after the number?
This feature of services shows up a lot -- where accounting for / metering the use of something makes up a significant (sometimes the significant) cost of a system.
I just payed my last phone bill from EIU about a week ago, to Consolidated Communications actually, not the university. It was $0.21, and they actually bothered to send me a bill! It probably cost them $0.50 - $1.00 to send me the bill. Talk about stupid. It cost me $0.37 for the stamp + about $0.05 for the envelope + about $0.05 for the check.
At my last job they were using Kronos. They all hated it though, and it was always having problems. I didn't use it myself though, I was using real paper time sheets instead for various reasons.
I understand pointers all right, but almost any other language makes it easier to process text strings than C.
If you stop trying to think of them as text strings, and start thinking of them as arrays of characters, which is what they really are, a lot of things that you think are missing from C, various special functions for strings that languages such as Perl and Python have, are actually only a line or two of C if you use pointers correctly. It is not hard, just different.
C/C++ can be used to make web pages (like CGI) but I wouldn't use it for that purpose. Too much trouble, difficult to program, to debug and to secure.
Actually it isn't that hard. At my last job I wrote all of my programs in C, including CGI's. I normally would use Python for CGI's, but the other people there only knew C++ and Perl. I don't like Perl, and didn't want to program in it again, so I wrote it all in C, since then all I really needed to explain was printf().
If you actually understand how to use pointers, it is easy. But then, that is generally true for C in general. The only reason why people generally have trouble with C is because they don't really understand how to use pointers, and you can't easily write anything at all in C without them, except for useless crap that could be done in GW-BASIC. The only real security issue with C (that isn't inherent to all CGI's, whether in C or Python or Perl) are things like buffer overflows, which again is just a need to better understand how to use pointers.
Yeah, it's about as ridiculous as how the *BSD people resent their dependence on GPL'd code and duplicate effort making sure they clone GNU tools and release them under a "less viral" license and they can declare their system even more BSD licensed.
That actually serves a purpose though. If it is licenced in a BSD-like manner, the software can be used in corporate spin-offs more easily than GPL'd stuff can.
ou can't simply go by sales the way you could with commercial software.
I would personally be interested in that figure though, and I am sure that commercial software developers would be interested too. If someone payed $50-100 for a boxed version of Linux, then there is a strong possibility that they would also pay for commercial software on that distribution. You could probably only count about 6 months to a years worth of purchaces as a valid population, since of upgrading. Does anybody know how many boxed CD sets of the last version of Red Hat Linux (the personal version of it) were sold? It would be an interesting figure to know.
No, they did not. You young'uns probably don't remember it, but the first hard drive I ever owned was 10MB - 10240KB, on the dot (give or take a few bytes).
The first drive I bought that had this "SI compliance" misfeature was a 2 GB one, from Conner if I recall correctly. I think they are out of business now. The hard drive before that was 540 real MB's, and all of the ones before that were correct too, back to my first hard drive, which was 20 MB.
On a related note, one of my comp-sci professors always wrote mb instead of MB for megabytes. I was originally in engineering physics, where it is drilled into you to be anal-retentive with respects to units, and it pissed me off, because my first reaction was generally "what the hell is a millibit?"
Umm... read the article, one of it's main points is that it does NOT lower cost in the short-term. going off-shore can actually increase costs for the short term. It is *long-term* savings that are the real potential benefit.
It looks to me from the second article like a lot of the companies are finding out the hard way that this isn't saving them any money, but rather costing them extra money and probably quality of product too, but the article is trying to convince them to keep it up anyway.
No kidding. I didn't really think much of the whole RIAA suing people thing all that much, because, despite what some people here might like to think, it is stealing. But this is just wrong. I think I am going to join you in banning the RIAA from now on. A $2,000 settlement with a 12-year-old girl in public housing? What the f-ck are they thinking?
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The justifications for getting an on-campus education are getting flimsier and more pathetic by the minute.
Keep on telling yourself that.
What would you say of someone who went to school phsyically, but did not stay in resident housing? What about someone with their own condo?
If they have their own condo, either their parents have a good deal of cash, or they will have a bunch of room-mates anyway, even though they aren't in the dorm.
Someone who lives at home with their parents?
If someone can find a decent university within commuting distance of their parent's house, can stand to be living with their parents at the age of 22, and have a good enough relationship with their parents that they will be allowed to live there all that time, then good for them.
Or are you only going to hire someone rich enough to afford 4 years of campus living?
In the United States, if you cannot afford the cost of college but can keep up even moderate grades, you can easily get government-subsidized loans. My Dad makes decent money and I was still able to get government loans. You don't need to be rich to go to college, you just need to be moderately intellegent and have enough dedication to put off your life for a while.
Lastly do you think university is the only place where one can learn social skills?
No. The military is another good place to go. If you served a few years as an enlistedman, and have an honorable discharge, you generally won't have that much trouble getting a real job either.
What if the person has them already?
Feel free to put on your resume, "Education: None, but don't worry, I have people skills already."
If all a University eduaction is worth is "social skills" ...
That isn't all a college degree is worth, but it is an important part.
I don't see how sitting poolside telling people to get you another drink for four years would improve your social skills.
Or backpack around the world.
I also don't see how not staying around the same people or in the same place for more than a week or two would build your social skills.
Fuck the actual education and knowledge, the merit and achievement ...
"How much better it is to get wisdom than gold! and to get understanding rather to be chosen than silver!" -- Proverbs 16:16.
Sure, that's what I said.
There were drunken girls getting into my room in the middle of the night because I forgot to lock the door. Sometimes I think I could hear people having sex right in the hallway.
That's one of the best parts of college!
One way to tolerate people you don't like is to deal them on a professional basis only. Living with them makes it personal and shows your ability to handle personal, not professional, situations.
If you are with a group of people for 8+ hours a day for 5 days a week, it will become personal. That is why MBA's with no real knowledge but plenty of people skills can make it so well in this world. One is leader of the free world right now. MBA's with no people skills, however, get stuck in middle-management hell for the rest of their working lives.
That is why, when you interview someone, you should ask innocous but highly informative questions about the education, such as "Were you in a frat/sorority? Did you live in the dorms, or off-campus? Who was your (least) favorite professor?" That way, they will either have to tell you that they didn't go to a real school, or lie to you. If they lie, they obviously don't get the job, and it is easy to find out too. If they tell you honestly, then it shouldn't be viewed as too much of a negative for them, but not on the level of a real university. Much of the real value of university is not in the coursework, especially if you get a degree in something like history, but rather in seeing if you can handle being with people that you don't necessarily like for extended periods of time, which is why joining a frat or sorority is so helpful for getting a job, or dorm life too.
BSD and Linux are not the same thing. Do they slam the GPL and Linux, or open source software in general?
No kidding. Just about every article posted here for about the last year or two has had at least one "beowulf cluster" joke posted by some idiot. I didn't really find it all that funny the first time I saw one, and I most definitely don't find it funny now, which is probably around the 2,000th time I've seen the same damned joke. The sad thing is, I know a lot of the people who are posting these actually think they are being funny. They're like a 5-year-old kid who keeps on telling you the same knock-knock joke twenty times a day.
On the HP 48G (the 48S too?) and up, which has been out for about a decade now, you can actually enter the equation in in a graphical way with the equation writer. The TI-89 and TI-92(+) only allow you to look at it after you have entered it in.
Thanks for the heads up, for a while there I thought that HP was really going to drop their calculators for good. I just pre-ordered a 49G+. I spilt coffee into my 49G about a year ago, and had to dust off my old 48GX for my last two semesters at university.
"Remote control" is what americans call that fun little device with all the buttons on it that allows us to switch between 60 channels without standing up. It really should be called a "remote controller" I guess though. Welcome to the English Language, spoken by people who will not be bossed around by whiny little English teachers.
Don't feel too bad, it also ignores ¢, otherwise I would have used it instead of $0.xx. Speaking of which, does the euro symbol go before or after the number?
I just payed my last phone bill from EIU about a week ago, to Consolidated Communications actually, not the university. It was $0.21, and they actually bothered to send me a bill! It probably cost them $0.50 - $1.00 to send me the bill. Talk about stupid. It cost me $0.37 for the stamp + about $0.05 for the envelope + about $0.05 for the check.
Yes there is. AD 0 = 1 BC. AD -15 = 16 BC. 0 BC = AD 1. -15 BC = AD 16. Honestly, it is a trivial extension of the definition.
At my last job they were using Kronos. They all hated it though, and it was always having problems. I didn't use it myself though, I was using real paper time sheets instead for various reasons.
No kidding, that would suck. It would basically turn the machine into a PS2 that costs way too much.
If you stop trying to think of them as text strings, and start thinking of them as arrays of characters, which is what they really are, a lot of things that you think are missing from C, various special functions for strings that languages such as Perl and Python have, are actually only a line or two of C if you use pointers correctly. It is not hard, just different.
Actually it isn't that hard. At my last job I wrote all of my programs in C, including CGI's. I normally would use Python for CGI's, but the other people there only knew C++ and Perl. I don't like Perl, and didn't want to program in it again, so I wrote it all in C, since then all I really needed to explain was printf().
If you actually understand how to use pointers, it is easy. But then, that is generally true for C in general. The only reason why people generally have trouble with C is because they don't really understand how to use pointers, and you can't easily write anything at all in C without them, except for useless crap that could be done in GW-BASIC. The only real security issue with C (that isn't inherent to all CGI's, whether in C or Python or Perl) are things like buffer overflows, which again is just a need to better understand how to use pointers.
That actually serves a purpose though. If it is licenced in a BSD-like manner, the software can be used in corporate spin-offs more easily than GPL'd stuff can.
I would personally be interested in that figure though, and I am sure that commercial software developers would be interested too. If someone payed $50-100 for a boxed version of Linux, then there is a strong possibility that they would also pay for commercial software on that distribution. You could probably only count about 6 months to a years worth of purchaces as a valid population, since of upgrading. Does anybody know how many boxed CD sets of the last version of Red Hat Linux (the personal version of it) were sold? It would be an interesting figure to know.
Satellites are your friends.
The first drive I bought that had this "SI compliance" misfeature was a 2 GB one, from Conner if I recall correctly. I think they are out of business now. The hard drive before that was 540 real MB's, and all of the ones before that were correct too, back to my first hard drive, which was 20 MB.
On a related note, one of my comp-sci professors always wrote mb instead of MB for megabytes. I was originally in engineering physics, where it is drilled into you to be anal-retentive with respects to units, and it pissed me off, because my first reaction was generally "what the hell is a millibit?"
The people who flew civilian passenger planes into civilian skyscrapers, killing over 3,000 innocent civilians instantly, that's who.
It looks to me from the second article like a lot of the companies are finding out the hard way that this isn't saving them any money, but rather costing them extra money and probably quality of product too, but the article is trying to convince them to keep it up anyway.
This will probably kill Mandrake for any professional setting. My last employer had a mix of Mandrake, Red Hat, and SuSE. I am not really suprised.
No kidding. I didn't really think much of the whole RIAA suing people thing all that much, because, despite what some people here might like to think, it is stealing. But this is just wrong. I think I am going to join you in banning the RIAA from now on. A $2,000 settlement with a 12-year-old girl in public housing? What the f-ck are they thinking?
I guess that I forgot a name. The point was that you need to be a girl.
Only if the alex in alex_ant is short for Alexandra or Alexis.