#1 or not, WoW fails to provide what I want in an MMORPG. That is why I went back to Final Fantasy XI. There I can actually have some crafting that's more than clicking a button, a more realistic world asthetic, and actually get to work together with the other players in a meaningful way.
And yes, I ground a character up to 60 in WoW. It's not for me.
I haven't seen a PS2 game debut with an MSRP of higher than US$50, except for games that include extra hardware like DDR pads or guitars.
Here's an interesting point about the $70 price point for a game. As much fun as Guitar Hero is to play (at Best Buy) I still can't bring myself to dump $70 for a single game, special controller be damned no matter how much fun I've had with it. Now do you think I'm going to throw $70 at a game that doesn't even come with anything other than the box and instructions? Most probably not.
Then there's crazy people like me playing Mega Man X3 today (via the Mega Man X Collection) for the first time ever. OMG. 2D games from way back when are still fun. I played through and beat MMX and MMX2 a few months ago and they were fun and challenging too. Just goes to show that some of us who are "nostalgic" are just mislabeled 2D gamers.
I can second this. I caught the end of a Pimp My Ride (atleast I assume that's what it was) where the cool super bitchin' feature of the kid's car was that it had three PSPs in the trunk stuck to conveyor belts that moved back and forth.
I keep having Phantasy Star II and PSO pop into my head there with a little bit of PS4. Now while not exactly that plot there are simliar concepts running through those games.
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I casually play Halo (1 & 2) at my friend's house. I like this feature because I am by no means the world's greatest FPS player. Short of Halo, Goldeneye and Doom I've basically played no other FPSes. So yeah, I like being able to be auto-caught-up when I'm straggling behind.
One thing the OP didn't mention was that if you both die you get respawned back at your last check point. At any rate, the cheese method of sending in someone to die is a choice. If you want to play the game that way, go ahead. The only person you're affecting is your friend. When we play it we generally choose not to do this. I end up doing it when we've been playing for hours and I'm falling asleep and my skil has dropped from marginal to generally shitty and I want to make the point I'm done playing. =P
I like to mention the color of my Sea Green (Ice Blue) DS Lite all the time. Doesn't mean there's anything inherently evil about it. You bleeding hearts need to learn to chill the fuck out and let kids be kids. Heaven forbid a girl likes pink. Stop the fucking presses. The OP better get rid of any and all violent games his son may play and give them to his daughter then give his son his daughter's copy of Nintendogs while were at it. And since we're going this far, lets be competely rediculous and cut his kid's pecker off and attach it to his daugther so she can be a he and he can be a she.
Way to ingrain gender-stereotypes. Just make sure the daughter isn't gaming too much, or else she'll start slacking on learning her way around the kitchen.
It may come as a surprise to you but it's okay for a girl to like pink. It's also okay for a girl to want to cook too. It's okay for a girl to have children and stay home and raise them properly.
It's also okay for a boy to like blue, play football and hunt critters.
Just because you have been trained to be a close minded biggot blinded by your facist liberal professors doesn't mean either of you are correct.
That's about what I did. Quit WoW, bought Oblivion. I found the character models to be butt ugly and the walking/running speed to be unbearably slow. After trying to find some sort of a plot or direction in the game for about a week I gave up on it and sold it on eBay. Now I'm back to my first love playing a new version of my Taru Taru in FFXI since WoW lacked depth in its noncombat gameplay.
And that's exactly why game makers ought to be focusing on games with stories: there's no reason for people to re-buy Pac-Man, but they'll keep buying new stories.
Huh, I own Mario Kart 64, Mario Kart Double Dash, and Mario Kart DS. By your logic there's no reason for me to buy anymore than just one of those three games. There's no story. GOOD GOD THERE'S NO STORY?! What ever could possibly drive me to buy those sequals??? Might be because there's new tracks, new karts/characters, new weapons. Ie. New CHALLENGES (what games are REALLY about) due to new EXPERIENCES (the other thing games are about).
Games are not about telling stories. They MAY tell stories but they are essentially about challenging you through various different experiences.
If we were to extract this into the real world, soccer and football are similar games. The goal is to get the ball to the opposite end of the field. The reason to play both is that while similiar your experience during the gameplay of each is different. You also replay these games because they are challenging and you will experience a different game each time.
No matter how many time I've played Mario Kart, it has been a different experience. How much of that can I say for something as horribly linear as FF7? You will eventually end up beating Sephiroth (essentially getting first place) and you will be all the other enemies/bosses/etc (the other racers) going from Midgar to the hole in the ground at the end (essentially the exact same damn tracks in the exact same damn order).
So instead of giving us more games with more story (good god, read a book, watch anime, go see a movie), give us more challenging games. It's the only reason I'm looking forward to the Wii and not the other consoles is because with the new control design there is potential for new challenges and experiences.
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Perhaps what you did is turn on a wireless controller first (getting it P1) and then plug in the 2nd controller (getting it P2)?
That sounds about right. Player 1 controller (wireless) is already on as is the Player 2 controller (also wireless). Player 2's batteries die and gets plugged in. The Xbox 360 already having a Player 1 controller logged in keeps the second controller set as Player 2.
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Then why is it that when my friend and I play DOA4 and my controller's batteries die we can plug the charger into the 360 and I'm still player 2? We did that on Thursday. So... explain that.
Please, I went to radio shack, bought a four pack of AA rechargables (the green ones, they last longer) and a charger all so I could listen to my CD player at work without wasting hundreds of dollars on batteries. Before I did this I spent around $20 a week on batteries. Then with the single purchase at ~$40 I have never had to buy batteries for my CD player again four years later.
Ooh, don't forget how once we got the new content on our servers after a resonable time that the rare items that were rewards for the quests were upgraded into wonderful common drops that everyone desired!
This guy says it himself, there is a market for old scumm games but then totally fails to realize what this means by saying he wants to add RPG elements. Hello! There is a market for old scumm games. That is it! The OLD scumm games. So any new game should NOT try to add anything new. If people wanted that they would be playing the new games.
I totally agree. I would love new adventure games but short of Quest for Glory, keep your god damn RPG elements out of my adventure game. If I want to play an RPG I'll pick up Dragon Quest VIII thank you very much.
Funny, last time I checked Mario Brothers was a video game. For that matter, by playing it, emulated or not, would seem to make the player a "gamer." Last time I checked my TV has everything from a PS2 and Gamecube to a Sega Master System and Genesis hooked up to it. My computer can play Oblivion on the highest setting, my other computer plays PC games from the late 80's to early 90's, and then I've got this hand held that has a touch screen. I used to play WoW till college took up enough free time that I was unwilling to bother with. But by your definition, someone like me, who might dare even think of a game that wasn't created in the last year is a nongamer. Huh, funny that.
I think the reason the DS is doing so well in Japan is because they started getting another demographic - girls, adults, etc. - with Nintendogs and the Brain Age series, and then the design of the DS Lite just really drove that home.
Also, if you're a total geek like me, you'll have started to see Brain Age and Touch Generation advertisements on TV on such stations as The History Channel, The Discovery Channel, and National Geographic Channel. These adds feature adults playing on DS Lites and make the whole thing look like it's as mature and acceptable as an adult reading literature.
Fair enough. I found the "minigames" of FF7 to be pretty much of the same calibre as the casino minigames found in Leisure Suit Larry 5. For me, FF7 did not bring anything new to the table other than FMVs which I can live with or without.
I think you missed my point in that the world in those games were as interactive as FF7's world was, and that I am not one of these "oh my god, it's got good graphics, it must suck" people.
What pisses me off is people like you who think that everything that's old that someone likes must be due to "nostalgia." It apprently has never dawned on people like you that those older things (games in this instance) might still be good. My favorite games span from the Nintendo DS all the way back to the Master System on a myriad of systems. So no my friend. It is not "nostalgia."
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#1 or not, WoW fails to provide what I want in an MMORPG. That is why I went back to Final Fantasy XI. There I can actually have some crafting that's more than clicking a button, a more realistic world asthetic, and actually get to work together with the other players in a meaningful way. And yes, I ground a character up to 60 in WoW. It's not for me.
Then there's crazy people like me playing Mega Man X3 today (via the Mega Man X Collection) for the first time ever. OMG. 2D games from way back when are still fun. I played through and beat MMX and MMX2 a few months ago and they were fun and challenging too. Just goes to show that some of us who are "nostalgic" are just mislabeled 2D gamers.
I can second this. I caught the end of a Pimp My Ride (atleast I assume that's what it was) where the cool super bitchin' feature of the kid's car was that it had three PSPs in the trunk stuck to conveyor belts that moved back and forth.
Please, they didn't include the handhelds either and I know damn well I play my DS the most, followed by games on my PC then my PS2.
I keep having Phantasy Star II and PSO pop into my head there with a little bit of PS4. Now while not exactly that plot there are simliar concepts running through those games.
I casually play Halo (1 & 2) at my friend's house. I like this feature because I am by no means the world's greatest FPS player. Short of Halo, Goldeneye and Doom I've basically played no other FPSes. So yeah, I like being able to be auto-caught-up when I'm straggling behind. One thing the OP didn't mention was that if you both die you get respawned back at your last check point. At any rate, the cheese method of sending in someone to die is a choice. If you want to play the game that way, go ahead. The only person you're affecting is your friend. When we play it we generally choose not to do this. I end up doing it when we've been playing for hours and I'm falling asleep and my skil has dropped from marginal to generally shitty and I want to make the point I'm done playing. =P
I like to mention the color of my Sea Green (Ice Blue) DS Lite all the time. Doesn't mean there's anything inherently evil about it. You bleeding hearts need to learn to chill the fuck out and let kids be kids. Heaven forbid a girl likes pink. Stop the fucking presses. The OP better get rid of any and all violent games his son may play and give them to his daughter then give his son his daughter's copy of Nintendogs while were at it. And since we're going this far, lets be competely rediculous and cut his kid's pecker off and attach it to his daugther so she can be a he and he can be a she.
It may come as a surprise to you but it's okay for a girl to like pink. It's also okay for a girl to want to cook too. It's okay for a girl to have children and stay home and raise them properly.
It's also okay for a boy to like blue, play football and hunt critters.
Just because you have been trained to be a close minded biggot blinded by your facist liberal professors doesn't mean either of you are correct.
That's about what I did. Quit WoW, bought Oblivion. I found the character models to be butt ugly and the walking/running speed to be unbearably slow. After trying to find some sort of a plot or direction in the game for about a week I gave up on it and sold it on eBay. Now I'm back to my first love playing a new version of my Taru Taru in FFXI since WoW lacked depth in its noncombat gameplay.
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That sounds about right. Player 1 controller (wireless) is already on as is the Player 2 controller (also wireless). Player 2's batteries die and gets plugged in. The Xbox 360 already having a Player 1 controller logged in keeps the second controller set as Player 2.
Then why is it that when my friend and I play DOA4 and my controller's batteries die we can plug the charger into the 360 and I'm still player 2? We did that on Thursday. So... explain that.
Please, I went to radio shack, bought a four pack of AA rechargables (the green ones, they last longer) and a charger all so I could listen to my CD player at work without wasting hundreds of dollars on batteries. Before I did this I spent around $20 a week on batteries. Then with the single purchase at ~$40 I have never had to buy batteries for my CD player again four years later.
Not even the Lord of the Rings trilogy.
Ooh, don't forget how once we got the new content on our servers after a resonable time that the rare items that were rewards for the quests were upgraded into wonderful common drops that everyone desired!
I totally agree. I would love new adventure games but short of Quest for Glory, keep your god damn RPG elements out of my adventure game. If I want to play an RPG I'll pick up Dragon Quest VIII thank you very much.
The quote was: "So, if it becomes a bit higher than $59, don't ding me, but, again, I don't expect it to be $100."
Meaning "it will probably be around $60 to $65."
God I love the front page of games.slashdot.
Funny, last time I checked Mario Brothers was a video game. For that matter, by playing it, emulated or not, would seem to make the player a "gamer." Last time I checked my TV has everything from a PS2 and Gamecube to a Sega Master System and Genesis hooked up to it. My computer can play Oblivion on the highest setting, my other computer plays PC games from the late 80's to early 90's, and then I've got this hand held that has a touch screen. I used to play WoW till college took up enough free time that I was unwilling to bother with. But by your definition, someone like me, who might dare even think of a game that wasn't created in the last year is a nongamer. Huh, funny that.
I think the reason the DS is doing so well in Japan is because they started getting another demographic - girls, adults, etc. - with Nintendogs and the Brain Age series, and then the design of the DS Lite just really drove that home.
Also, if you're a total geek like me, you'll have started to see Brain Age and Touch Generation advertisements on TV on such stations as The History Channel, The Discovery Channel, and National Geographic Channel. These adds feature adults playing on DS Lites and make the whole thing look like it's as mature and acceptable as an adult reading literature.
Fair enough. I found the "minigames" of FF7 to be pretty much of the same calibre as the casino minigames found in Leisure Suit Larry 5. For me, FF7 did not bring anything new to the table other than FMVs which I can live with or without.
I think you missed my point in that the world in those games were as interactive as FF7's world was, and that I am not one of these "oh my god, it's got good graphics, it must suck" people. What pisses me off is people like you who think that everything that's old that someone likes must be due to "nostalgia." It apprently has never dawned on people like you that those older things (games in this instance) might still be good. My favorite games span from the Nintendo DS all the way back to the Master System on a myriad of systems. So no my friend. It is not "nostalgia."