What irony? I was referring to the fact that many people think they can magically gouge when they can't even necessarily hit someone in the head with a big glove in a boxing match (where you can't grapple). Most of the people who talk about gouging are the "too deadly for the ring" guys who refuse to spar.
What I said has nothing to do with the second sentence you quoted.
As far as machinima goes, I'm stuck in the past. I've barely seen any machinima since Quake. What little I've seen of Red vs. Blue hasn't impressed me all that much.
Whoooo, man, Someone got out of the wrong side of bed this morning.
I'm annoyed because I wish these retarded myths and misconceptions would just go away, instead of repeating themselves everywhere.
What's so hard to understand? Boxers are hard as nails. Boxing is a poor style to fight with.
It's hard to understand because it isn't true.
Yes, boxers can kick and wrestle in a street fight, but that's not boxing.
Duh. Like I said, there's no mysterious force that prevents boxers from using other techniques in a real fight. What's with this constant assertion that boxers cannot do anything besides box?
Boxing has made them very, very tough, but if they went into a fight and used boxing they'd get their arses kicked. What aren't you understanding about this?
Yeah, sure they would. They fight better than most of the population and practise one of the most efficient forms of unarmed combat, but surely they would get their asses kicked. It must be true because your crazy dogma demands that it must be true.
You also imply Krav Maga is a poor style...
I didn't imply that it's a poor style.
.... and then admit it takes many of its techniques from Muay Thai, which everyone agrees isn't a bad "real" fighting style.
Looks like you forgot boxing. I mentioned boxing and MT. Don't try to cherry pick things.
Nevertheless, this doesn't mean boxing is a good fighting style on its own. Calm down, read again. That's my point.
I'm afraid it is, and your ignorant babbling will not prove otherwise. You don't even know anything about the subject, so I can't understand why you keep talking about it as if you did.
I think it was at least partially done to give the Horde an attractive race. I suspect that the number of Horde players will increase dramatically with BC. I know I'll be rolling a female blood elf.
Really? All the boxing styles I've been exposed to emphasise frequent, full-contact sparring as a vital part of the development process.
Well obviously, but I was referring to a form of training where you simply get punched repeatedly (because I assumed that this is what you were referring to).
Practice boxing to build up your stamina and resistance to impact, then learn something quick and brutal like Ju-Jitsu, Wing Chun or Krav Maga for actual fighting.
Ugh. You really don't know much about the subject. Boxing is actual fighting, despite its limitations. You practise againts a live opponent with full contact, and that alone makes it more effective than any system where you don't. Besides, it's just simply an effective system.
Wing Chun is basically the laughing stock of the MMA world. As for Krav Maga, I trained it for a year or two, and the punching and kicking was simply boxing and Muay Thai (suprise suprise). The groundfighting was lifted from BJJ.
Someone who was technically perfect at boxing but trained like a martial artist ("weak" repetition, semi-contact, etc) would be slit up a treat by someone who trained normally at their chosen martial arts discipline, since most martial arts have strikes and techniques that boxing simply has no answer to.
Aliveness is key. Any system that lacks aliveness is almost certainly useless or of extremely limited use. Even if a boxer trained with just a nominal amount of contact, he'd still be better off than someone who practises the Twelve Lotus Fists of Ultimate Destiny. As for techniques that boxing doesn't have an answer to, the techniques only matter if they work... I'm sure I could come up with an elaborate bullshit attack that no boxer has ever seen, but it wouldn't necessarily work. Can you come up with a punching technique that would work againts a boxer by completely bypassing all his training? You can't. There's a limited amount of ways a human can punch, and I've yet to hear of a punching art that's superior to boxing.
A martial artist who trained and built themselves up like a boxer would still kick a boxer's arse, since boxing is such a fundamentally limited "martial art", in terms of strikes, blocks, throws, locks, gouges, groundfighting and the like.
Depends entirely on the art. Certainly an MMA fighter (MT/BJJ in this case) is almost guaranteed to win a boxer (with no additional training) under MMA rules, but the boxer is still better at striking. Boxing is an art centered entirely on striking. That's what it does. Would it not be a good idea to learn boxing in order to learn better striking, instead of thinking "but boxing doesn't have pressure point strikes and finger locks, it's fucking useless" ? You may as well drop Muay Thai because it doesn't include joint locks and throws. You may as well stop training Judo because it doesn't have kicks. People crosstrain because they want to become more complete fighters. A boxer trains BJJ so he learns groundfighting, a BJJ practitioners learns Muay Thai so he can do standup fighting, and a Muay Thai practitioner learns boxing to improve his strikes.
Analogy: you can access FTPs with Firefox, but most people would agree that an FTP client, while strictly limited to FTP, is far superior for that purpose. That's why they use an FTP client, instead of Firefox, even though Firefox is more versatile. This is why people train boxing when they want to learn how to punch, instead of learning some hybrid system which has a bit of everything.
As for gouging, it's kind of overrated. A fantasy technique, almost. You see, you can't exactly poke your finger into somebody's eye if you can't even hit them in the head with a 12oz glove in a sparring match where you aren't allowed to grapple. This obvious truth escapes many people. There's also the problem of not being able to actually practise it againts a live opponent.
Unfortunately, SGI is violating my patent number 1,337 which is the concept of "being an annoying fucktard who wants to halt progress by patenting everything and then suing everyone."
Seriously, fuck patents. Whatever they were originally intended for seems meaningless at this point.
Frankly, I've never heard of boxers (as a general rule) specifically training how to get hit by getting repeatedly punched in the face. Some professional boxers might do something like that.
Boxing is limited but extremely effective, and from a self-defence point of view it's a good system because most people will try to punch you.
A free or supposedly free press is only useful if journalists are prepared to utilise it. Finland is number one, but does our media actually use its freedom? No, not really. When the media sticks to politically correct subjects and viewpoints, it will not be threatened or censored, so it looks like there's a great amount of freedom. It's all an illusion, of course. A Finnish group published the Mohammed cartoons on its website (nobody else dared to do so), and was subjected to a police investigation. Is that freedom?
The largest newspaper censors discussions on its website when people present "incorrect" viewpoints. Certain segments of the largest discussion forum in Finland are moderated by a hysterical islamofascist, and the forum's owners are not interested in changing that (I know private parties can do this kind of stuff, but it still says something about our society). Freedom of speech is an illusion.
Clearly you aren't very familiar with boxing. MT fighters have their legs, knees and elbows, but boxers are far superior at punching, and they punch hard and fast. Boxers can take damage, but their strategy is not to stand there and take punches, any more than a BJJ fighter lays down and allows himself to get armlocked.
The MT rules you're referring to sound like the kind of stuff you'd see in Thailand, but amateur Thai boxing is not like that, as far as I know.
I remember a game review from the Finnish Pelit magazine, many, many years ago. They had a section with very short reviews of games (I think they were mainly Amiga games, since Amiga was starting to get phased out by then), and some low scoring game was simply reviewed with "a shit game." That was it. It must have been really shit, I imagine.
Censorware developers aren't in any position to define what constitutes hate speech, since it's such an amazingly flexible and murky concept. Also, from the post (off-topic I guess):
There was a big flap when it came out that in some Islamic schools in New York, parents had their children taught with textbooks which said that "the Jews killed their own prophets" and "you will find them ever deceitful", but without more civil rights for people under 18 to seek information for themselves, there's not much that anybody can do about it.
Why was there a big flap? Such teachings are basic Islamic doctrine. If you want the real Islam, here it is. Oh, wait, it wasn't exactly what you were looking for? Not quite the Religion of Peace you thought it was? Well, I'm sure someone from CAIR reminded everyone at the time that such teachings need to be put into their correct cultural and historical context etc etc etc.
The fact is that Europeans enjoy slaughtering and conquering each other in extreme numbers. England once three quarters of the globe under its domination. Romans and Spaniards conquered by the sword. Scandanavians raped and pillaged across the continent. Anyone remember Bosnia? And as for Germans - well, lets not even go there.
The fact is that Europeans are savage and warlike and desperately need structures to take their minds of the delicious thought of grabbing their neighbour by the throat.
You are going as far back as the Roman Empire and Viking times. I can only presume that, according to you, our warlike nature is genetic. In that case, everyone who migrated out of Europe (Americans, Canadians, Australians etc.) is also warlike. You, too, are warlike (and a hypocrite).
Isn't it strange how such a warlike and savage continent has produced Western civilization as we know it? Yes, the very same civilization that was transplanted into America, Canada and Australia. If you don't like Western civilization, you can move to Pakistan.
If Europeans were as warlike as you say, then I don't think countries like Britain, Sweden and France would have civil wars of varying degrees (muslims vs. the rest) while people talk about tolerance, respect, interfaith dialogue and the importance of being inoffensive. The fact is that we Europeans are huge pussies. We fiddle around with Rapid Deployment Forces without any intention of ever using them, certainly not in situations where there could be casualties. We just roll over and play dead whenever there's trouble, and the next time the shit hits the fan over here, the US will have to rescue us. Again.
Thanks to all those who are "offended" by ignorant, belligerent, and on rare occasions insightful opinions, we have the PC phrase "hate speech." This phrase is a wonderful thing, being so flexible that it can be applied almost without limitation. Today it's used against people who are pro-life, against racial and gender quotas, practice or identify their faith publicly, or oppose illegal immigration. Today, it will also be used to justify modding down this post. Tomorrow, it will be used against you to place you in prison.
Correct. Much like "racism," it means nothing more than what its user wants it to mean. It can be anything from "kill all black people" to "reduce immigration" or "disarm Hezbollah." Anything short of enciting people to commit violence (againts black people, white people, gays, Christians or whatever) should be allowed.
The Internet works best when it's more or less the Wild West. Regulating it excessively is not only very difficult, but counter-productive as well. Of course, you can't expect politicians to understand or care.
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What irony? I was referring to the fact that many people think they can magically gouge when they can't even necessarily hit someone in the head with a big glove in a boxing match (where you can't grapple). Most of the people who talk about gouging are the "too deadly for the ring" guys who refuse to spar.
What I said has nothing to do with the second sentence you quoted.
Sony is going back to the old school.
That movie is very funny.
As far as machinima goes, I'm stuck in the past. I've barely seen any machinima since Quake. What little I've seen of Red vs. Blue hasn't impressed me all that much.
I'm annoyed because I wish these retarded myths and misconceptions would just go away, instead of repeating themselves everywhere.
It's hard to understand because it isn't true.
Duh. Like I said, there's no mysterious force that prevents boxers from using other techniques in a real fight. What's with this constant assertion that boxers cannot do anything besides box?
Yeah, sure they would. They fight better than most of the population and practise one of the most efficient forms of unarmed combat, but surely they would get their asses kicked. It must be true because your crazy dogma demands that it must be true.
I didn't imply that it's a poor style.
Looks like you forgot boxing. I mentioned boxing and MT. Don't try to cherry pick things.
I'm afraid it is, and your ignorant babbling will not prove otherwise. You don't even know anything about the subject, so I can't understand why you keep talking about it as if you did.
"John Romero's about to make you his bitch"
-A delayed game that was not so good
How about making it a Cthulhu game where you have sex with people and... stuff. Should be pleasantly terrifying and disturbing.
I think it was at least partially done to give the Horde an attractive race. I suspect that the number of Horde players will increase dramatically with BC. I know I'll be rolling a female blood elf.
I wandered into the middle of your post and saw this. Context is everything.
Judging by their rapid pace, the only thing those guys are polishing are their knobs.
Well obviously, but I was referring to a form of training where you simply get punched repeatedly (because I assumed that this is what you were referring to).
Ugh. You really don't know much about the subject. Boxing is actual fighting, despite its limitations. You practise againts a live opponent with full contact, and that alone makes it more effective than any system where you don't. Besides, it's just simply an effective system.
Wing Chun is basically the laughing stock of the MMA world. As for Krav Maga, I trained it for a year or two, and the punching and kicking was simply boxing and Muay Thai (suprise suprise). The groundfighting was lifted from BJJ.
Aliveness is key. Any system that lacks aliveness is almost certainly useless or of extremely limited use. Even if a boxer trained with just a nominal amount of contact, he'd still be better off than someone who practises the Twelve Lotus Fists of Ultimate Destiny. As for techniques that boxing doesn't have an answer to, the techniques only matter if they work... I'm sure I could come up with an elaborate bullshit attack that no boxer has ever seen, but it wouldn't necessarily work. Can you come up with a punching technique that would work againts a boxer by completely bypassing all his training? You can't. There's a limited amount of ways a human can punch, and I've yet to hear of a punching art that's superior to boxing.
Depends entirely on the art. Certainly an MMA fighter (MT/BJJ in this case) is almost guaranteed to win a boxer (with no additional training) under MMA rules, but the boxer is still better at striking. Boxing is an art centered entirely on striking. That's what it does. Would it not be a good idea to learn boxing in order to learn better striking, instead of thinking "but boxing doesn't have pressure point strikes and finger locks, it's fucking useless" ? You may as well drop Muay Thai because it doesn't include joint locks and throws. You may as well stop training Judo because it doesn't have kicks. People crosstrain because they want to become more complete fighters. A boxer trains BJJ so he learns groundfighting, a BJJ practitioners learns Muay Thai so he can do standup fighting, and a Muay Thai practitioner learns boxing to improve his strikes.
Analogy: you can access FTPs with Firefox, but most people would agree that an FTP client, while strictly limited to FTP, is far superior for that purpose. That's why they use an FTP client, instead of Firefox, even though Firefox is more versatile. This is why people train boxing when they want to learn how to punch, instead of learning some hybrid system which has a bit of everything.
As for gouging, it's kind of overrated. A fantasy technique, almost. You see, you can't exactly poke your finger into somebody's eye if you can't even hit them in the head with a 12oz glove in a sparring match where you aren't allowed to grapple. This obvious truth escapes many people. There's also the problem of not being able to actually practise it againts a live opponent.
Unfortunately, SGI is violating my patent number 1,337 which is the concept of "being an annoying fucktard who wants to halt progress by patenting everything and then suing everyone."
Seriously, fuck patents. Whatever they were originally intended for seems meaningless at this point.
Frankly, I've never heard of boxers (as a general rule) specifically training how to get hit by getting repeatedly punched in the face. Some professional boxers might do something like that.
Boxing is limited but extremely effective, and from a self-defence point of view it's a good system because most people will try to punch you.
A free or supposedly free press is only useful if journalists are prepared to utilise it. Finland is number one, but does our media actually use its freedom? No, not really. When the media sticks to politically correct subjects and viewpoints, it will not be threatened or censored, so it looks like there's a great amount of freedom. It's all an illusion, of course. A Finnish group published the Mohammed cartoons on its website (nobody else dared to do so), and was subjected to a police investigation. Is that freedom?
The largest newspaper censors discussions on its website when people present "incorrect" viewpoints. Certain segments of the largest discussion forum in Finland are moderated by a hysterical islamofascist, and the forum's owners are not interested in changing that (I know private parties can do this kind of stuff, but it still says something about our society). Freedom of speech is an illusion.
[01:11] * Scott_Adams sets mode: +v Scott_Adams
Clearly you aren't very familiar with boxing. MT fighters have their legs, knees and elbows, but boxers are far superior at punching, and they punch hard and fast. Boxers can take damage, but their strategy is not to stand there and take punches, any more than a BJJ fighter lays down and allows himself to get armlocked.
The MT rules you're referring to sound like the kind of stuff you'd see in Thailand, but amateur Thai boxing is not like that, as far as I know.
Sir, you are mistaken. I argue that there were two words and a period. I am prepared to fight this matter to the ends of the Internet.
Clearly he has never fought a boxer. I'm suprised that someone with a background in Muay Thai can be so ignorant.
I remember a game review from the Finnish Pelit magazine, many, many years ago. They had a section with very short reviews of games (I think they were mainly Amiga games, since Amiga was starting to get phased out by then), and some low scoring game was simply reviewed with "a shit game." That was it. It must have been really shit, I imagine.
Someone is probably busy constructing a Wiki about midget wheelchair porn as we speak, and it's all your fault.
Why was there a big flap? Such teachings are basic Islamic doctrine. If you want the real Islam, here it is. Oh, wait, it wasn't exactly what you were looking for? Not quite the Religion of Peace you thought it was? Well, I'm sure someone from CAIR reminded everyone at the time that such teachings need to be put into their correct cultural and historical context etc etc etc.
It has nothing to do with intelligence.
GW isn't much of a MMORPG. There's really no grinding involved, no crafting, equipment plays a minimal role... it's just tactical team combat.
You are going as far back as the Roman Empire and Viking times. I can only presume that, according to you, our warlike nature is genetic. In that case, everyone who migrated out of Europe (Americans, Canadians, Australians etc.) is also warlike. You, too, are warlike (and a hypocrite).
Isn't it strange how such a warlike and savage continent has produced Western civilization as we know it? Yes, the very same civilization that was transplanted into America, Canada and Australia. If you don't like Western civilization, you can move to Pakistan.
If Europeans were as warlike as you say, then I don't think countries like Britain, Sweden and France would have civil wars of varying degrees (muslims vs. the rest) while people talk about tolerance, respect, interfaith dialogue and the importance of being inoffensive. The fact is that we Europeans are huge pussies. We fiddle around with Rapid Deployment Forces without any intention of ever using them, certainly not in situations where there could be casualties. We just roll over and play dead whenever there's trouble, and the next time the shit hits the fan over here, the US will have to rescue us. Again.
Correct. Much like "racism," it means nothing more than what its user wants it to mean. It can be anything from "kill all black people" to "reduce immigration" or "disarm Hezbollah." Anything short of enciting people to commit violence (againts black people, white people, gays, Christians or whatever) should be allowed.
The Internet works best when it's more or less the Wild West. Regulating it excessively is not only very difficult, but counter-productive as well. Of course, you can't expect politicians to understand or care.
He's probably too old for these "manual confirmations."