There is NO WAY that I am going to accept the assertion that "selective breeding" is the same process as "gene splicing". Nor will anyone else that is not trying to reassure someone that gene splicing is not dangerous.
It is pretty obvious that there are (this time at least) unintended reactions AND that we apparently cannot trust Monsanto to fully test and disclose before selling and feeding us their experiments.
disabling vsync AND setting the fps max to 60 was what cured all my problems. When I got 300fps it made the mouse control funky/odd and slow, capping it fixed that nicely,
Oh and unplugging the long forgotten logitech rumble controller stopped the slow drift to the right that took me a day to figure out, Oops.
If it wasn't, the research isn't so much in creating the devices, it's in USING them.
Many ideas look like they'd be good as interfaces for the stuff we actually do with our computers.
However, in actual daily use they are crap.
As quick examples I hold up things like touch screens on desktop PC's, the data glove and the surface less gyro mouse.
All of these have at one point or another (or many) been heralded as the thing that will replace the mouse and sometimes keyboards too.
This is not to say that there aren't applications where each of those things is quite useful but none of them will completely replace the mouse.
Linux = security risk only if you are an idiot and override the installation defaults.
However,
Everyone KNOWS that EVERY microsoft product is a security risk, no matter HOW you install it.
So much so that there is an ENTIRE INDUSTRY of software products that have grown up around protecting microsoft products.
So, nice ashman you have there MS fanboi, care to erect another strawman for me to burn down?
OOO! aren't we pedantic!
Way to be a dick to someone you don't know when you are clearly wrong.
As far as laptops having motherboards, why are you putting words into my mouth just so you can be a jerk about it? My question was not about laptop motherboards. I was wrong about ALL laptops having serial ports and I admitted that a few posts up.
Also, you can't generally go buy either a mac motherboard OR laptop motherboard off the shelf at microcenter et al, so what's your point?
Moreover, Whats YOUR fucking problem?
The example motherboards you provided DO have serial ports, RTFM.
Saying that they don't is just like saying that motherboards don't have sata or pata ports because the cables don't come with and aren't already plugged in.
FYI, the serial header cable generally IS supplied by the mfgr in the box with the motherboard. If you don't buy your motherboards from a reputable enough dealer that you get ALL the parts without having to pay extra for them it's not my problem.
I'd LOVE to know how you think you can use a serial port AT ALL without attaching any "extra parts"...
Frankly, I don't expect you to care about my job.
Point of fact however, If I can't do my job with a laptop afaiac it's as useful as a toy. No more or less useful than an xbox, wii or eee, but nothing I can do actual money making _work_ with.
Mac's & iMacs & Mac laptops have the same problem, no serial ports, not work machines.
It's a shame too, pretty much all of my dev tools have linux versions I could probably make work on my mini but without the port to talk to the programmer for the roms & pic devices it's pointless.
Good enough? It is for me and frankly I couldn't give a handful of flying monkey shit less about your opinion as you have already told me that you are incapable of reading the manuals for or even looking at the pretty pictures of the motherboards you have incorrectly shown as being examples of "motherboards without any serial ports".
As a matter of fact, your attitude and your telling me that the board "dosen't have a port" because you aren't smart enough to plug in the cable pretty much tells me ALL I need to know about you.
Congrats, you are the very first person on/. to make me want to go see if there is a block list. Good Job.
Under windows, you are describing exactly my experience with the usb/serial dongles which is why every laptop I have ever bought has a real hardware serial port on board.
It's good to hear that they work under linux, I can do all my work that would require a serial connection there. It's pretty much just ftp and terminal sessions for that stuff. It's nice to know that if I can't get a new laptop with a serial port I'm not entirely screwed.
Funny, it's been about 3 years since I tried one of them (under any OS), I'm surprised that the windows drivers haven't improved. Has anyone tried it in w7? Is it any better? I will try it with the one I have but it IS 3 years old so...
The port is avalable, it's on the motherboard. I have about 10 of those header to serial cables around and they are less than $2 on monoprice, with the slotcover, so that's really not an issue.
My point is, It DOES EXIST ON THE MOTHERBOARD.
To remind you, I restate MY original question, "Can anyone tell me the model motherboard that has NO serial ports on it?"
Apparently, you cannot.
Real routers come up because I have to only buy real laptops with serial ports in them so that I can actually do my job on the days that it involves configuring routers & etc.
Do you just skim the posts? They really aren't that long.
The Asus M4A78 Plus ALSO has a com1 port on the motherboard, you can look at the pretty pictures on newegg, it's in the lower right corner labeled com1, it's a light blue header.
So we still don't have any motherboards without serial ports...
I will concede however that they seem to have done away with them on many laptops (although I can't buy one that dosen't have one, configuring real routers & etc requires serial)
Oh, and I just want to say that the EEE is more a netbook type device than a laptop type device.
Question, are the USB serial adapters properly supported in linux (and windows) yet? The last time I tried one the drivers were crap and it wouldn't work above 1200 baud.
Can anyone tell me the model motherboard that has NO serial ports on it?
In all the time i have been working on computers I can't say that I've EVER seen a PC type computer without at least ONE serial port built in, Ever. Heck, even every laptop I've ever seen had a serial port...
I was Child "D", That's the one that took every thing apart to see how it worked, and figured out how to stop getting in trouble for it when I learned how to put it all back together so that it worked properly. Then when I figured out how to make it work better, started saying "I Fixed it".
It's a lifelong avocation now.
I was also bored out of my mind in school, even in the advanced classes they had me in.
All my computers still have 25 pin printer ports, PS/2 ports AND serial ports, even the one I just built with a brand spankin new cheap as possible motherboard.
Pc's never had actual centronics ports for printers just the db 25's Scsi ports looked like them (and some still do) but they are bigger.
Indeed I agree, more research and some "test filterings" need to be done to determine exactly what we are dealing with, what beside the plastic is out there and how we can separate the two groups (pollution / life) with the minimum of damage to the ecosystem (which of course has to be compared to whatever problems the plastic is causing).
Like I said, it's an engineering problem, and as far as I am concerned a very cool one. I'd love to get a job working on helping clean it up.
Wow I know no one bothers to rtfa, but not even bothering to read the post you are replying to?
Nice, you've taken slashdot to a new level, congratulations.
This is an engineering problem, not a religious war. It has a solution but being a naysayer isn't part of it.
How long? It took us what 60 years to cause the problem so it so anything less than that is a win, wouldn't you think?
Ok then, Older Big ships run on steam. Water dosen't care what makes it boil. That takes care of part of the energy requirements (depending on how dense the usable plastic is) and takes care of 93%ish of the bulk of the waste. The CO2 capture is not all that tricky considering that the ships will be pretty big, bubble the exhaust thru some seawater and flow it across the decks in the sun, phytoplankton turn it into more plankton which we then use to re-seed the "cleaned" areas.
More green? you are going to have to very carefully define exactly what "more green" means. I'm pretty sure that we can figure out how to get the plastic out of the water. Yes it will probably kill countless billions of tiny tiny little sea creatures. Fortunately we are still talking about a good deal less than.01 % of the surface of the oceans, those creatures exist to reproduce and should manage to repopulate those areas just fine.
Just how important is getting the plastic out of the water or conversely, just how bad is the plastic for the local environment?
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So we can put the solar panels in a "close" solar orbit (or even earth orbit) and entangle/detangle the power into our grid?
Will it FINALLY be power to cheap to meter?
Just install steam on the new machine, copy the ENTIRE old steam directory over the one you just installed.
All you have to do is log into steam once and you are home free.
I'm sorry,
There is NO WAY that I am going to accept the assertion that "selective breeding" is the same process as "gene splicing".
Nor will anyone else that is not trying to reassure someone that gene splicing is not dangerous.
It is pretty obvious that there are (this time at least) unintended reactions AND that we apparently cannot trust Monsanto to fully test and disclose before selling and feeding us their experiments.
To say nothing of the fact that Xrays and WiFi are ENTIRELY different forms of energy.
Of course THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED!
What part of making up worst case scenarios makes you forget the "MADE UP" part?
As a male who fully supports the feminist view, How about you correct the oversight and list them for our education.
Please.
disabling vsync AND setting the fps max to 60 was what cured all my problems. When I got 300fps it made the mouse control funky/odd and slow, capping it fixed that nicely, Oh and unplugging the long forgotten logitech rumble controller stopped the slow drift to the right that took me a day to figure out, Oops.
I spent the entire game in "aim mode" it was slow in spots but pretty fun. Yes, really. Both.
Yes.
my detector is broken, was that sarcastic?
If it wasn't, the research isn't so much in creating the devices, it's in USING them.
Many ideas look like they'd be good as interfaces for the stuff we actually do with our computers.
However, in actual daily use they are crap.
As quick examples I hold up things like touch screens on desktop PC's, the data glove and the surface less gyro mouse.
All of these have at one point or another (or many) been heralded as the thing that will replace the mouse and sometimes keyboards too. This is not to say that there aren't applications where each of those things is quite useful but none of them will completely replace the mouse.
Sure, why look for the next big thing when this one works so well!
It's about the research baby!
I'd suggest adding addiction treatment programs to your plan, then I could back it 100%
Linux = security risk only if you are an idiot and override the installation defaults. However, Everyone KNOWS that EVERY microsoft product is a security risk, no matter HOW you install it. So much so that there is an ENTIRE INDUSTRY of software products that have grown up around protecting microsoft products. So, nice ashman you have there MS fanboi, care to erect another strawman for me to burn down?
OOO! aren't we pedantic! Way to be a dick to someone you don't know when you are clearly wrong.
/. to make me want to go see if there is a block list.
As far as laptops having motherboards, why are you putting words into my mouth just so you can be a jerk about it? My question was not about laptop motherboards. I was wrong about ALL laptops having serial ports and I admitted that a few posts up.
Also, you can't generally go buy either a mac motherboard OR laptop motherboard off the shelf at microcenter et al, so what's your point?
Moreover, Whats YOUR fucking problem?
The example motherboards you provided DO have serial ports, RTFM.
Saying that they don't is just like saying that motherboards don't have sata or pata ports because the cables don't come with and aren't already plugged in.
FYI, the serial header cable generally IS supplied by the mfgr in the box with the motherboard. If you don't buy your motherboards from a reputable enough dealer that you get ALL the parts without having to pay extra for them it's not my problem.
I'd LOVE to know how you think you can use a serial port AT ALL without attaching any "extra parts"...
Frankly, I don't expect you to care about my job. Point of fact however, If I can't do my job with a laptop afaiac it's as useful as a toy. No more or less useful than an xbox, wii or eee, but nothing I can do actual money making _work_ with.
Mac's & iMacs & Mac laptops have the same problem, no serial ports, not work machines.
It's a shame too, pretty much all of my dev tools have linux versions I could probably make work on my mini but without the port to talk to the programmer for the roms & pic devices it's pointless.
Good enough?
It is for me and frankly I couldn't give a handful of flying monkey shit less about your opinion as you have already told me that you are incapable of reading the manuals for or even looking at the pretty pictures of the motherboards you have incorrectly shown as being examples of "motherboards without any serial ports".
As a matter of fact, your attitude and your telling me that the board "dosen't have a port" because you aren't smart enough to plug in the cable pretty much tells me ALL I need to know about you.
Congrats, you are the very first person on
Good Job.
Thanks,
Under windows, you are describing exactly my experience with the usb/serial dongles which is why every laptop I have ever bought has a real hardware serial port on board.
It's good to hear that they work under linux, I can do all my work that would require a serial connection there. It's pretty much just ftp and terminal sessions for that stuff.
It's nice to know that if I can't get a new laptop with a serial port I'm not entirely screwed.
Funny, it's been about 3 years since I tried one of them (under any OS), I'm surprised that the windows drivers haven't improved.
Has anyone tried it in w7? Is it any better? I will try it with the one I have but it IS 3 years old so...
The port is avalable, it's on the motherboard.
I have about 10 of those header to serial cables around and they are less than $2 on monoprice, with the slotcover, so that's really not an issue.
My point is, It DOES EXIST ON THE MOTHERBOARD.
To remind you, I restate MY original question,
"Can anyone tell me the model motherboard that has NO serial ports on it?"
Apparently, you cannot.
Real routers come up because I have to only buy real laptops with serial ports in them so that I can actually do my job on the days that it involves configuring routers & etc.
Do you just skim the posts? They really aren't that long.
And what kind of jerk marks an honest question as troll?
I may have been wrong about the laptops, however all of mine DO have 9 pin serial ports.
The Intel DP965LT has a serial port header right on the motherboard, check the manual, page 11 labeled P described on page 12.
pdf of the manual at
http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dp965lt/sb/CS-022910.htm
The Asus M4A78 Plus ALSO has a com1 port on the motherboard, you can look at the pretty pictures on newegg, it's in the lower right corner labeled com1, it's a light blue header.
So we still don't have any motherboards without serial ports...
I will concede however that they seem to have done away with them on many laptops (although I can't buy one that dosen't have one, configuring real routers & etc requires serial)
Oh, and I just want to say that the EEE is more a netbook type device than a laptop type device.
Question, are the USB serial adapters properly supported in linux (and windows) yet? The last time I tried one the drivers were crap and it wouldn't work above 1200 baud.
Can anyone tell me the model motherboard that has NO serial ports on it?
In all the time i have been working on computers I can't say that I've EVER seen a PC type computer without at least ONE serial port built in, Ever.
Heck, even every laptop I've ever seen had a serial port...
An avocation is an activity that a person does as a hobby outside their main occupation.
So I guess that for me, it's both a vocation AND an avocation.
I was Child "D",
That's the one that took every thing apart to see how it worked, and figured out how to stop getting in trouble for it when I learned how to put it all back together so that it worked properly.
Then when I figured out how to make it work better, started saying "I Fixed it".
It's a lifelong avocation now.
I was also bored out of my mind in school, even in the advanced classes they had me in.
SO you're saying EMC provides all that?
Please think before you post.
All my computers still have 25 pin printer ports, PS/2 ports AND serial ports, even the one I just built with a brand spankin new cheap as possible motherboard.
Pc's never had actual centronics ports for printers just the db 25's Scsi ports looked like them (and some still do) but they are bigger.
Indeed I agree, more research and some "test filterings" need to be done to determine exactly what we are dealing with, what beside the plastic is out there and how we can separate the two groups (pollution / life) with the minimum of damage to the ecosystem (which of course has to be compared to whatever problems the plastic is causing).
Like I said, it's an engineering problem, and as far as I am concerned a very cool one. I'd love to get a job working on helping clean it up.
Wow I know no one bothers to rtfa, but not even bothering to read the post you are replying to?
Nice, you've taken slashdot to a new level, congratulations.
This is an engineering problem, not a religious war. It has a solution but being a naysayer isn't part of it.
How long?
It took us what 60 years to cause the problem so it so anything less than that is a win, wouldn't you think?
Ok then,
Older Big ships run on steam. Water dosen't care what makes it boil.
That takes care of part of the energy requirements (depending on how dense the usable plastic is) and takes care of 93%ish of the bulk of the waste.
The CO2 capture is not all that tricky considering that the ships will be pretty big, bubble the exhaust thru some seawater and flow it across the decks in the sun, phytoplankton turn it into more plankton which we then use to re-seed the "cleaned" areas.
More green? you are going to have to very carefully define exactly what "more green" means. .01 % of the surface of the oceans, those creatures exist to reproduce and should manage to repopulate those areas just fine.
I'm pretty sure that we can figure out how to get the plastic out of the water. Yes it will probably kill countless billions of tiny tiny little sea creatures. Fortunately we are still talking about a good deal less than
Just how important is getting the plastic out of the water or conversely, just how bad is the plastic for the local environment?