Oooh...creepy.
But if creationists are right, Brazilians (see Popol Vuh) are wrong (who claim that man had many previous forms that were destroyed for the current, "correct" form, and claim that, ironically, monkeys evolved from people after pissing off the wrong deity at the wrong time).
Wasn't Square working on Blue Dragon recently? I mean, with Toriyama and the rest of the Chrono-crew...they already have so much merchandise I assumed they'd be focused on that...but I guess when you have an all star developing cast like that, you don't need to spend time on design since the little Ota like myself won't even consider it COULD be a bad game.
Yeah, everyone knows that the word "created", such as "God created man" means "instantly popped into existence". Like when an artist creates a sculpture.
Rome wasn't created in a day. It was created in an instant.
Lets just ignore the fact several religious texts like the Popul Vuh out there has proof pointing the other way. Besides, other religions are all run by God-less heathens.
Well the thing is that the robot can only die if its code dies. As for the land-mine bot, it doesn't have to be destroyed if it destroys the land-mines in question. Injured--maybe.
The problem here really is that when machines fail, they tend to kind of struggle (like the last leg of this machine would have to some extent) much like a being would losing its leg. Its this "struggling" that looks, in many ways, like "pain".
But in the end, if you give robots rights, you'd have to give other machines rights too. Then other tools. If a robot gets rights, my i-pod should too. Not to mention my taser. Oh, and my pencil. I shouldn't be allowed to use non-mechanical pencils since its sad seeing a trusty old fashioned pencil wear down after so many drafts at the ol' drafting table. Its inhumane!
And if your argument is "but it looks alive", you need to, well, rethink your argument.
Now if a machine gained perception of the universe beyond its original coding (or was, god-forbid, codded with outwards perception on a level that is at or beyond that of a sentient being), there'd be other issues. But at this point the mine-sweeper robot has the same level of perception as toy-dogs that play soccer.
Every mine the robot does not destroy is another mine that could destroy a human. End of story. If you want to save psychological damage, make them look like giant ugly boxes...
However, like I stated before, these machines have no perception outside their JOB. SO LET THEM DO THEIR GOD-DAMNED JOB!
The best solution (for what I consider a problem) would be to make machines less animal-like ("legs", etc...), but the truth is trying to find a solution better then nature tends to be...difficult...I mean, besides wheels, what do we have that nature hasn't already done?
Robots are tools. If you refuse to use a tool for its primary purpose, you are in fact disgracing the job and existence of the tool in question. If you want to fish with your bot to better understand how to control it, that is fine. But you must in the end allow the tool to perform its task, or else you are basically saying "its not worthy". If you want robot rights, include pride in such rights.
Its very much like, in ancient times especially, not letting a soldier go out to war because you don't want that person to "die a meaningless death". Sure you still have the soldier...but if your not going to let them fight, what's the point of having trained them in the first place? Keep in mind this is in the context of a feudal society in which soldiers were just considered tools.
If the mining robot was withdrawn because, lets say, they had another mine-detecting bot and repairing the missing legs on the 1-legged bot was cheaper then letting the thing be completely destroyed, I wouldn't concern myself. But when human lives are put at risk because machines begin to look pathetic, there is something wrong. I'd say "wrong with today", but through the ages human lives have been subject to the continued functionality of machines. Look at the importance placed on katana in the edo-tokugawa periods of Japan. The captain dying with his ship. Th
Although the above examples are more along the lines of "pride of owning a machine that performed its task exceedingly well mostly and in many ways because of that machines extraordinary use BY a human in the field."
I wonder how much I could ebay a wing off the 747 that hit one of the towers for...I'd probably be blacklisted over all the media for being insensitive and people would ask me to put it in a museum...but this is just a hypothetical.
Final Word from all that mess:
A right is a set of basic requirements, minimum standards as it were, given to something. Large animals should not be stuffed in small boxes and shipped around the world without airholes or food. Babies should not be thrown in dumpsters in plastic bags. Etc...etc... But when we extend these rights to things created by man, we are restricting the creations of the future.
And either way: Robots are machines. They have more moving parts and appear to be "an agent of their own", but in the end are machines.
In the end I have a feeling the majority of people who want robot rights are not the same people who build, maintain or design these bots.
On the plus side, the real reason for giving rights to machines is not to protect the machines, but to protect the psyches of humans operating the machines.
Although interesting, I don't see how letting your office a television sitcom starring Tony Danza and Judith Light airing for eight seasons on ABC from 1984 to 1992 is useful to anyone.
AMD had $611 million dollars? How many employees do they have out of curiousity? All you'd need really would be like what...1,222 non-factory employees to quit, take the money and move to brazil to live the rest of their days as wealthy tire magnets.
Oh wait, that's probably illegal to for some reason.
I for one am not surprised one bit it took them this many years considering the percentage of the human population who would be able to activate these genes regularly enough for them to be noticeable.
To quote my Japanese friend on the subject of Anime censorship:
"Why censor children's [media]; kids have violent! Honestly, a child will see more blood spilled than most people in their adult years outside of war and medicine. Children are naturally violent creatures."
The architects at my school are forced to work in an old building given to us by the agriculture students far on the other side of campus. Since most of us basically live there (and go there when the campus buses aren't running, i.e. 1 AM, etc... to work on projects), we are forced to eat horrible food (they placed it far FAR away from even the overpriced cafes on campus, so all we have is this vending machine and what we bring ourselves), work next to horses and their mess, fight the flies, and leave for class 45 minutes early when I LIVE ON CAMPUS because I have to take 2 buses!
BUT WE HAVE TO STOP PIRACY!!! Bullshit. Piracy won't stop. Its that simple. If need be, students will use the same ports they use for online lecture downloads for DC++ ports...in the end its about 10 admins with money versus 10,000 students who don't want to pay money.
I hate how money is spent. New cafe attached to the library (which closes 2 floors of the library for years): YES! Not having the architects work in a storage facility for hay. Nah.
PSH! We all know that aliens came HERE and stole OUR ideas of the pyramids without paying us a dime (earth being the salvation army of the universe for ideas, MP3s and pron).
And I for one welcome our new stealing-from-earth, DRM free overlords.
Naruto Gekkitou Ninja Taisen 4 has one of the most annoying AI every developed. The "easy mode" AI are almost impossible to lose against. They might get an ocassional hit here or there, but rarely anything else. They rarely use supers and always kawarimi (replacement technique) when hit by more than 2 hits (from any source, including ranged attacks, which in the real game are rarely worth using 75% of your chakra to dodge).
Then there is the second type of AI. They just turtle, replacement every hit, dodge every super attack, and to make things worse: COUNTER EVERY THROW AUTOMATTICALLY.
Bugh...fuggin' impossible to train for tournaments without a friend.
Give me a couple thousand, hell just a few hundred dollars, and I'll consider you cool. No need for all the advertising crap...you can spend $5,000,000 on a single commercial, or just give 50,000 random people $10,000 dollars, or just give me and my 4 best friends 1,000,000. Hell, give me $5, a good meal and a bus ride home and your "cool" in my book. Hell, just the good meal at this point.
But seriously, being "cool" is all about giving people something new, but not so new that it is unfamiliar. You have to let people assume they discovered you, and that you weren't pushed onto them. People always think they are cool, and therefore your product is cool, if you just "discovered" it. At the same time, you have to ensure that the actual product is worthwhile.
I'd say "and not a ripp-off", but then again "Blizzard" is considered "cool".
As for "throwing money at the situation", yeah you can totally do it. Just do like Blizzard and ensure you buy employees who enjoy the latest trends. If your an anime company, don't just plaster banner ads on popular anime-based webcomics like megatokyo. Honestly, I have never seen an anime advertised there be "popular". Instead use the trend of torrents to submit "fan-videos" (although professionally done) to sites like Tokyo Toshokan and AMV.org. Throw in TONS of Otaku lingo, and ensure that you try to be as Japanese as possible.
Does this study include dial-up? My friend in Louisiana has been using a 56k for the last 10+years since there is no DSL line in his neighborhood and he can't afford satellite wireless.
If you don't have a harddrive to spare, don't install it. If you do, and find out you'd prefer XP or Linux or something, it's a royal bitch to knock windows out of their.
Heck, even harddrives connected to Vista (i.e. secondaries) tend to bugger sometimes too and you'll get the ubiquious "cannot install another OS, you have Vista."
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This only confirms my theory that stars are in fact, undeniably, God's candles.
Yeah, because everyone hear just *loves* microsoft.
*See's sarcasm detector explode*
Oooh...creepy. But if creationists are right, Brazilians (see Popol Vuh) are wrong (who claim that man had many previous forms that were destroyed for the current, "correct" form, and claim that, ironically, monkeys evolved from people after pissing off the wrong deity at the wrong time).
Wasn't Square working on Blue Dragon recently? I mean, with Toriyama and the rest of the Chrono-crew...they already have so much merchandise I assumed they'd be focused on that...but I guess when you have an all star developing cast like that, you don't need to spend time on design since the little Ota like myself won't even consider it COULD be a bad game.
I wonder if creationists in the future might later claim that the website didn't take 10 years to compile, but was created in a day...
Yeah, everyone knows that the word "created", such as "God created man" means "instantly popped into existence". Like when an artist creates a sculpture. Rome wasn't created in a day. It was created in an instant. Lets just ignore the fact several religious texts like the Popul Vuh out there has proof pointing the other way. Besides, other religions are all run by God-less heathens.
Well the thing is that the robot can only die if its code dies. As for the land-mine bot, it doesn't have to be destroyed if it destroys the land-mines in question. Injured--maybe.
The problem here really is that when machines fail, they tend to kind of struggle (like the last leg of this machine would have to some extent) much like a being would losing its leg. Its this "struggling" that looks, in many ways, like "pain".
But in the end, if you give robots rights, you'd have to give other machines rights too. Then other tools. If a robot gets rights, my i-pod should too. Not to mention my taser. Oh, and my pencil. I shouldn't be allowed to use non-mechanical pencils since its sad seeing a trusty old fashioned pencil wear down after so many drafts at the ol' drafting table. Its inhumane!
And if your argument is "but it looks alive", you need to, well, rethink your argument.
Now if a machine gained perception of the universe beyond its original coding (or was, god-forbid, codded with outwards perception on a level that is at or beyond that of a sentient being), there'd be other issues. But at this point the mine-sweeper robot has the same level of perception as toy-dogs that play soccer.
Every mine the robot does not destroy is another mine that could destroy a human. End of story. If you want to save psychological damage, make them look like giant ugly boxes...
However, like I stated before, these machines have no perception outside their JOB. SO LET THEM DO THEIR GOD-DAMNED JOB!
The best solution (for what I consider a problem) would be to make machines less animal-like ("legs", etc...), but the truth is trying to find a solution better then nature tends to be...difficult...I mean, besides wheels, what do we have that nature hasn't already done?
Robots are tools. If you refuse to use a tool for its primary purpose, you are in fact disgracing the job and existence of the tool in question. If you want to fish with your bot to better understand how to control it, that is fine. But you must in the end allow the tool to perform its task, or else you are basically saying "its not worthy". If you want robot rights, include pride in such rights.
Its very much like, in ancient times especially, not letting a soldier go out to war because you don't want that person to "die a meaningless death". Sure you still have the soldier...but if your not going to let them fight, what's the point of having trained them in the first place? Keep in mind this is in the context of a feudal society in which soldiers were just considered tools.
If the mining robot was withdrawn because, lets say, they had another mine-detecting bot and repairing the missing legs on the 1-legged bot was cheaper then letting the thing be completely destroyed, I wouldn't concern myself. But when human lives are put at risk because machines begin to look pathetic, there is something wrong. I'd say "wrong with today", but through the ages human lives have been subject to the continued functionality of machines. Look at the importance placed on katana in the edo-tokugawa periods of Japan. The captain dying with his ship. Th
Although the above examples are more along the lines of "pride of owning a machine that performed its task exceedingly well mostly and in many ways because of that machines extraordinary use BY a human in the field."
I wonder how much I could ebay a wing off the 747 that hit one of the towers for...I'd probably be blacklisted over all the media for being insensitive and people would ask me to put it in a museum...but this is just a hypothetical.
Final Word from all that mess:
A right is a set of basic requirements, minimum standards as it were, given to something. Large animals should not be stuffed in small boxes and shipped around the world without airholes or food. Babies should not be thrown in dumpsters in plastic bags. Etc...etc... But when we extend these rights to things created by man, we are restricting the creations of the future.
And either way: Robots are machines. They have more moving parts and appear to be "an agent of their own", but in the end are machines.
In the end I have a feeling the majority of people who want robot rights are not the same people who build, maintain or design these bots.
On the plus side, the real reason for giving rights to machines is not to protect the machines, but to protect the psyches of humans operating the machines.
Although interesting, I don't see how letting your office a television sitcom starring Tony Danza and Judith Light airing for eight seasons on ABC from 1984 to 1992 is useful to anyone.
AMD had $611 million dollars? How many employees do they have out of curiousity? All you'd need really would be like what...1,222 non-factory employees to quit, take the money and move to brazil to live the rest of their days as wealthy tire magnets.
Oh wait, that's probably illegal to for some reason.
I for one am not surprised one bit it took them this many years considering the percentage of the human population who would be able to activate these genes regularly enough for them to be noticeable.
This is slashdot. You can ALWAYS insult microsoft for SOMETHING.
To quote my Japanese friend on the subject of Anime censorship:
"Why censor children's [media]; kids have violent! Honestly, a child will see more blood spilled than most people in their adult years outside of war and medicine. Children are naturally violent creatures."
Note: not exact quote.
The architects at my school are forced to work in an old building given to us by the agriculture students far on the other side of campus. Since most of us basically live there (and go there when the campus buses aren't running, i.e. 1 AM, etc... to work on projects), we are forced to eat horrible food (they placed it far FAR away from even the overpriced cafes on campus, so all we have is this vending machine and what we bring ourselves), work next to horses and their mess, fight the flies, and leave for class 45 minutes early when I LIVE ON CAMPUS because I have to take 2 buses!
BUT WE HAVE TO STOP PIRACY!!! Bullshit. Piracy won't stop. Its that simple. If need be, students will use the same ports they use for online lecture downloads for DC++ ports...in the end its about 10 admins with money versus 10,000 students who don't want to pay money.
I hate how money is spent. New cafe attached to the library (which closes 2 floors of the library for years): YES! Not having the architects work in a storage facility for hay. Nah.
Hey, at least this time if they surrender, they can get out...fast.
PSH! We all know that aliens came HERE and stole OUR ideas of the pyramids without paying us a dime (earth being the salvation army of the universe for ideas, MP3s and pron).
And I for one welcome our new stealing-from-earth, DRM free overlords.
Hear that? Its the sound of ponies not caring. Or my PC breaking down again...
Does it run with bluetooth?
Naruto Gekkitou Ninja Taisen 4 has one of the most annoying AI every developed. The "easy mode" AI are almost impossible to lose against. They might get an ocassional hit here or there, but rarely anything else. They rarely use supers and always kawarimi (replacement technique) when hit by more than 2 hits (from any source, including ranged attacks, which in the real game are rarely worth using 75% of your chakra to dodge). Then there is the second type of AI. They just turtle, replacement every hit, dodge every super attack, and to make things worse: COUNTER EVERY THROW AUTOMATTICALLY. Bugh...fuggin' impossible to train for tournaments without a friend.
Give me a couple thousand, hell just a few hundred dollars, and I'll consider you cool. No need for all the advertising crap...you can spend $5,000,000 on a single commercial, or just give 50,000 random people $10,000 dollars, or just give me and my 4 best friends 1,000,000. Hell, give me $5, a good meal and a bus ride home and your "cool" in my book. Hell, just the good meal at this point.
But seriously, being "cool" is all about giving people something new, but not so new that it is unfamiliar. You have to let people assume they discovered you, and that you weren't pushed onto them. People always think they are cool, and therefore your product is cool, if you just "discovered" it. At the same time, you have to ensure that the actual product is worthwhile.
I'd say "and not a ripp-off", but then again "Blizzard" is considered "cool".
As for "throwing money at the situation", yeah you can totally do it. Just do like Blizzard and ensure you buy employees who enjoy the latest trends. If your an anime company, don't just plaster banner ads on popular anime-based webcomics like megatokyo. Honestly, I have never seen an anime advertised there be "popular". Instead use the trend of torrents to submit "fan-videos" (although professionally done) to sites like Tokyo Toshokan and AMV.org. Throw in TONS of Otaku lingo, and ensure that you try to be as Japanese as possible.
You kicked our asses in 1812 and we wanna make sure the same mistakes aren't made again. Like invading you. *cough*
If dinosaurs were so smart, why did they repost?
Wait...or maybe I just read this myself on BBC...
Does this study include dial-up? My friend in Louisiana has been using a 56k for the last 10+years since there is no DSL line in his neighborhood and he can't afford satellite wireless.
If you don't have a harddrive to spare, don't install it. If you do, and find out you'd prefer XP or Linux or something, it's a royal bitch to knock windows out of their. Heck, even harddrives connected to Vista (i.e. secondaries) tend to bugger sometimes too and you'll get the ubiquious "cannot install another OS, you have Vista."
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