The GPA and GGPA are stating copyright infringement != theft. This is a fact, even if you dislike that fact. Copyright infringement is just that, copyright infringement. Stealing a car remains theft.
Except that right there you prove you have no idea what you are talking about.
Microsoft made a deal with Novell that they will not sue them for using Microsoft patents. All is ok so far, and yes slashdot users are saying it's a bad thing. Not done yet, though.
Then Microsoft starts to say all Linux violates Microsoft patents. Hmmm. I am seeing a pattern maybe. Anyway, not over yet!
Novell now, out of thin air, decides to start making a mod of OO that's more Microsoft-friendly. One would wonder why now? If there wouldn't be any issue with Microsoft's patents in the first place, why didn't Novell do this years ago?
If Novell makes a mod of OO that supports Microsoft documents better, and OO accepts said mod, they are opening themselves up to being sued just as Microsoft stated. So Novell forks OO. So far there isn't any direct fallout, but I fully expect to see a lot more shit like this.
So don't insult US because YOU are too narrow minded to see what is going on.
Not really. If Novell does something that doesn't quite violate the GPL, but is still sneaky and just an exploitation of a loophole, patching that loophole hardly makes it non-free. The GPL 3 could do this, but it's yet to be seen if it will. Sneaking in patented code is certainly a sneaky exploitation at best.
DOS attacks are easy to pervent. And in this case, at least with your example, it could have been handled on the DNS's side server easy, had they known what they were doing. Stop hiding behind law to justify technical failures, the internet is survival of the fittist and that's just the way it belongs. (And lets not try to discuss how, if they can carry this out, you are going to catch them. It's pointless.)
Your "ripple effect" sounds more like bad code on the side of the sites being effected. The protocol shoud be secure on a technical level and not rely on laws to protect it, because no matter how fascit you want the internet to be, you can never control it all.
I could cause a lot more problems and not do anything illegal. Shoud those acts be illegal because of a butterfly effect caused by bad programming? Get real, please.
I would hope to god not. Then they would have perpetual, never-ending copyright (because even after the person is long dead someone will own the rights and want to keep them. See lord of the rings) on anything currently copyrighted right now. It's like the wet dream of the *IA*'s to have that.
Enemy general: Do you have a hole in your wall?
Guard captain: Well.. umm..
Enemy general: We know you do and will attack you with it if you don't admit it now.
Guard captain: Ok, Ok. Yes we have a big hole in the wall.
Enemy general: Haha, sucker. Ok guy's, there's a hole, lets find it!
What they "consider" isn't worth shit in law... or at least, it shouldn't be.
No matter how much people yell murder at someone stealing a car, it doesn't change the fact stealing a car != murder.
The only people who consider copyright infringement "theft" are ether the bias ones who say it is for the sake of emotional appeal or those who don't understand the concept of copyright in the first place. Though I will give you that many in the government tend to belong to both groups.
The UFP was a technocracy, ie their "money" represented something (energy) but wasn't normally used in the show because I don't think Starfleet pays (or at least the pay is useless inside it). The Ferengi are something totally different, they didn't have money, they had latium (kind of like gold of the time). While it was never stated I would guess latium had some real value; needed in alloys, fuel, etc. I don't know if the Romulans or Cardassians had money, but they both seem like they could.
All I see is that some people have stopped making crap (yes it's crap). That doesn't say anything about "gift culture failing" or anything else. Stop being sensationalistic; you are basically saying if 2 guys died in the battle you lost the war.
"With open source, there is no intellectual property. Anyone can use it and all your ideas become public domain."
I am hoping something was lost in translation, because if it wasn't this guy is not only not getting the idea but totally missing the point. Then one must ask, what kind of country has an "IT Minister"? I bet he gets razzed for that... in fact that my explain this. If the guy can't install anything open source without causing errors, I really don't think he belongs in that job.
"How about telling Congress that we have slam-dunk evidence of WMD's in Iraq? Another usage of Freedom of Speech!"
I think they already have that covered.
But seriously, that only proves my point. They simply accepted it as true without caring, and look where it got us. If they got bombed with millions of pointless things before hand, maybe they would have been more careful, like, before hand, at least trying to send real intel operatives to look for ANY sign of WMDs. Maybe not. But I can see no bad coming from emailing a senator right now saying Switzerland is planning a nuclear war.
"Since our countr(ies) have no moral foundation anymore"
Ahh, the morals. These things that have been used to justify wars, holocausts, censorship, oppression, general killing and social regression. How sad we are to "be without" them anymore. Now we have no "immoral heathens" OR communists to blame it all on, I guess we are all just going to go crazy......
"Fire" is just a word. It's not my fault people are so jumpy. Inciting a riot takes some underlying issue 99% of the time, so trying to ban "inciting a riot" is kind of like blaming red buttons for nuclear attacks.
"Only 3% of the genome is genes, the rest is junk DNA which has a lot of interesting stuff like alternate versions of genes, commented out ideas, and coded critters like this one that sit in your DNA like "sunken ships"."
So, you mean, it's like Microsoft source code?
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The GPA and GGPA are stating copyright infringement != theft. This is a fact, even if you dislike that fact. Copyright infringement is just that, copyright infringement. Stealing a car remains theft.
Except that right there you prove you have no idea what you are talking about.
Microsoft made a deal with Novell that they will not sue them for using Microsoft patents. All is ok so far, and yes slashdot users are saying it's a bad thing. Not done yet, though.
Then Microsoft starts to say all Linux violates Microsoft patents. Hmmm. I am seeing a pattern maybe. Anyway, not over yet!
Novell now, out of thin air, decides to start making a mod of OO that's more Microsoft-friendly. One would wonder why now? If there wouldn't be any issue with Microsoft's patents in the first place, why didn't Novell do this years ago?
If Novell makes a mod of OO that supports Microsoft documents better, and OO accepts said mod, they are opening themselves up to being sued just as Microsoft stated. So Novell forks OO. So far there isn't any direct fallout, but I fully expect to see a lot more shit like this.
So don't insult US because YOU are too narrow minded to see what is going on.
Not really. If Novell does something that doesn't quite violate the GPL, but is still sneaky and just an exploitation of a loophole, patching that loophole hardly makes it non-free. The GPL 3 could do this, but it's yet to be seen if it will. Sneaking in patented code is certainly a sneaky exploitation at best.
But unlike cars, they don't sell cheaper, less powerful xBoxes that do the same thing (play the same games, that is).
DOS attacks are easy to pervent. And in this case, at least with your example, it could have been handled on the DNS's side server easy, had they known what they were doing. Stop hiding behind law to justify technical failures, the internet is survival of the fittist and that's just the way it belongs. (And lets not try to discuss how, if they can carry this out, you are going to catch them. It's pointless.)
Your "ripple effect" sounds more like bad code on the side of the sites being effected. The protocol shoud be secure on a technical level and not rely on laws to protect it, because no matter how fascit you want the internet to be, you can never control it all.
I could cause a lot more problems and not do anything illegal. Shoud those acts be illegal because of a butterfly effect caused by bad programming? Get real, please.
Now we just need to find the color gene in Apple Computers to make them less... white.
I would hope to god not. Then they would have perpetual, never-ending copyright (because even after the person is long dead someone will own the rights and want to keep them. See lord of the rings) on anything currently copyrighted right now. It's like the wet dream of the *IA*'s to have that.
In war, both sides "lose". In this case, one side will win.
Enemy general: Do you have a hole in your wall?
Guard captain: Well.. umm..
Enemy general: We know you do and will attack you with it if you don't admit it now.
Guard captain: Ok, Ok. Yes we have a big hole in the wall.
Enemy general: Haha, sucker. Ok guy's, there's a hole, lets find it!
Commoner: What is the Ubumtoo?
The RIAA fears anything that will stop their monopolization of frivolous lawsuits and extortion.
Fixed that for you.
What they "consider" isn't worth shit in law... or at least, it shouldn't be.
No matter how much people yell murder at someone stealing a car, it doesn't change the fact stealing a car != murder.
The only people who consider copyright infringement "theft" are ether the bias ones who say it is for the sake of emotional appeal or those who don't understand the concept of copyright in the first place. Though I will give you that many in the government tend to belong to both groups.
Well it sure doesn't seem like it's having an effect....
The UFP was a technocracy, ie their "money" represented something (energy) but wasn't normally used in the show because I don't think Starfleet pays (or at least the pay is useless inside it). The Ferengi are something totally different, they didn't have money, they had latium (kind of like gold of the time). While it was never stated I would guess latium had some real value; needed in alloys, fuel, etc. I don't know if the Romulans or Cardassians had money, but they both seem like they could.
All I see is that some people have stopped making crap (yes it's crap). That doesn't say anything about "gift culture failing" or anything else. Stop being sensationalistic; you are basically saying if 2 guys died in the battle you lost the war.
"With open source, there is no intellectual property. Anyone can use it and all your ideas become public domain."
I am hoping something was lost in translation, because if it wasn't this guy is not only not getting the idea but totally missing the point. Then one must ask, what kind of country has an "IT Minister"? I bet he gets razzed for that... in fact that my explain this. If the guy can't install anything open source without causing errors, I really don't think he belongs in that job.
The *doctors* don't need to be multilingual if it's like wikipedia, just have someone who *is* translate the pages.
"How about telling Congress that we have slam-dunk evidence of WMD's in Iraq? Another usage of Freedom of Speech!"
I think they already have that covered.
But seriously, that only proves my point. They simply accepted it as true without caring, and look where it got us. If they got bombed with millions of pointless things before hand, maybe they would have been more careful, like, before hand, at least trying to send real intel operatives to look for ANY sign of WMDs. Maybe not. But I can see no bad coming from emailing a senator right now saying Switzerland is planning a nuclear war.
"Since our countr(ies) have no moral foundation anymore" Ahh, the morals. These things that have been used to justify wars, holocausts, censorship, oppression, general killing and social regression. How sad we are to "be without" them anymore. Now we have no "immoral heathens" OR communists to blame it all on, I guess we are all just going to go crazy......
"Fire" is just a word. It's not my fault people are so jumpy. Inciting a riot takes some underlying issue 99% of the time, so trying to ban "inciting a riot" is kind of like blaming red buttons for nuclear attacks.
99% of geeks already know how to build nukes. Hell I could build a warp core given some dilithium...
"Only 3% of the genome is genes, the rest is junk DNA which has a lot of interesting stuff like alternate versions of genes, commented out ideas, and coded critters like this one that sit in your DNA like "sunken ships"." So, you mean, it's like Microsoft source code?
I know. It was funny and politically incorrect in so many way. :P
Yeah, he's a very decided one.