Just to agree with the parent. You can't "steal" something out of public domain. You can only copyright something that you created. If someone else created and released it to public domain, well it is now in public domain. If someone comes along and copies it, then copyrights it... well anyone else can go to the public domain version and still copy it.
BUT if they don't retain me, they no longer have a product to sell to their "customer's."
This whole "you are the product" argument is just plain dumb. FB and Google and everyone else still need to do work to keep their product happy. When they are doing that, then you are the customer.
The issue really isn't about Apple (from what I can tell) Really the issue is how bad this law is.
From TFA:
"the unauthorized acquisition or unauthorized use of unencrypted data or, encrypted electronic data" that creates a "substantial risk of identity theft or fraud against a resident of the commonwealth"
So it sounds like, if someone steals a credit card. Then uses it to purchase an item from a store. The store is supposed to report this "unauthorized use." How is the store supposed to know the transaction is not authorized?
Big deal. I've already been able to walk into Sears and shop at JCPenney.com on my phone, if I chose, for the past several years..
Now imagine if you could only visit JCPenny.com ONLY if you WALK into Sears... Ok, I'm AT the expensive Tshirt, where I can buy a tshirt and walk out of the door with it. WHY would I want to then go to a "virtual" tshirt job, buy a shirt, and then wait for days for it to show up?
Yes Augmented Reality is profound. There are some pretty cool things you can do with it. Building a "virtual shop where a real one already exists." Is probably the least cool.
Sure there will be lawyers. When people come out with the 'nudity' app that paints an image of a naked girl whenever you a particular person... But I'm pretty sure it isn't anything that slander and libel lawyers don't already deal with today.
What about support, administration, setup of wifi networks or 3g costs, software and security updates, replacement of broken hardware etc.?
A lot of these problems already exist. Printers break, they need a network, etc.
What can a civil servant do with an tablet that they can't do with a cheaper laptop or netbook?
Carry it around. A tablet is more convenient than a laptop or netbook
And why dismiss the obvious solution to expensive printing costs - buy cheaper paper and ink?
How do you know they haven't already done this?
Or charge the users for each page printed?
While this might reduce printing, it doesn't solve the problem. It just moves the accounting around.
Yes there are problems, and I'm not sure that the iPad (or any other tablet) is the answer (primarily because of notetaking) but it isn't far off. Sure there will still be a need for printers. But if you could reduce that by 75 or 90%...
Don't they know you NEVER go full retard? Was there any doubt in their insanity after the "sea kitten" episode? For those that didn't hear, and I swear I ain't making this shit up, PETA demanded that all mentions of fish be replaced with the words 'sea kittens"
I don't care for the taste of sea kittens much myself. But land kittens... yummmmm! Even better than puppies!
George owes us a usable copy of the original. That's a 35mm print BTW.
George doesn't owe you (or us) anything. At some point his creation will enter public domain. When that happens, George isn't obligated to cough up the original masters.
As far as fraud goes, well I'm not sure what fraud you think he is perpetrating.
What does corporate tax have to do with capital gains? Oh yeah thats right, nothing. The more taxes a corporation pays means the company makes more more, and the generally means the stock goes up, which means the owner has a higher capital gain.
But these two things aren't related. IT doesn't equate to "50% tax"
I don't know what a GCSE (Global Climate Scary Earth?) so I don't know how that relates to a 7 or a 14 year old.
But computer programming isn't like learning a language. I think there is enough evidence to support the theory that young children learn languages easier than adults. I don't think that necessarily applies to programming.
Yes if you start when you are 7, then you will be better at it than when you start at 14. But for that matter why not start teaching 7 year olds calculus and advanced microbiology? It might be important to teach a 7 year old how to use a computer, but it isn't necessary to teach them how to program it at that age.
I was listening to a TWiT tech podcast, don't remember which one or who said this, but... They asked for one thing in a software patent... working demonstration code.
Immediately, light bulbs were going off for me. Finally, that might solve some abandon-ware problems.
How does this solve any problems? Chances our if you are patenting something, you actually have at LEAST a demo of the item being patented. A demo probably won't have a "practical use idea" either. Just a demonstration of the product.
I don't go through a metal detector, have my bags xrayed, and my balls groped when I get on a bus, the subway, a cruise ship, when I drive my car. So why should I have it when I get on a plane?
Failure to detect a threat does not mean if was unsuccessful at finding a threat.
I'm pretty sure that if you fail to detect something, you fail to find it. That is sort of the definition of detect.
Perhaps you meant that just because they failed to detect a threat, doesn't mean they failed to deter one. Yeah that might be true. But about the only threat they could deter is a moronic one (like the guy who lit his underpants on fire... oh wait, not only did they fail to detect that one they also failed to deter it.)
Ah, this does nothing but ask for even more clarification, as it would suggest that the FCC currently does not know exactly how the public would react to having access to this database?
If you need more clarification, you could, you know, RTFA!
Here, let me help you:
But the FCC's rules require that device-makers contact a database system to obtain a list of channels that aren't currently being used by radio services at their current locations to prevent possible interference with broadcasts.
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Just to agree with the parent. You can't "steal" something out of public domain. You can only copyright something that you created. If someone else created and released it to public domain, well it is now in public domain. If someone comes along and copies it, then copyrights it... well anyone else can go to the public domain version and still copy it.
Sure they can do that, in fact all 100% can do that. They'll get placed on the bottom of the creditors list, and get nothing.
Ok fine, whatever... "I'm the product."
BUT if they don't retain me, they no longer have a product to sell to their "customer's."
This whole "you are the product" argument is just plain dumb. FB and Google and everyone else still need to do work to keep their product happy. When they are doing that, then you are the customer.
The article is about a city in Australia. And the summary asks "already being done in the U.S?"
The issue really isn't about Apple (from what I can tell) Really the issue is how bad this law is.
From TFA:
"the unauthorized acquisition or unauthorized use of unencrypted data or, encrypted electronic data" that creates a "substantial risk of identity theft or fraud against a resident of the commonwealth"
So it sounds like, if someone steals a credit card. Then uses it to purchase an item from a store. The store is supposed to report this "unauthorized use." How is the store supposed to know the transaction is not authorized?
Seems like a pretty dumb law to me.
Big deal. I've already been able to walk into Sears and shop at JCPenney.com on my phone, if I chose, for the past several years..
Now imagine if you could only visit JCPenny.com ONLY if you WALK into Sears... Ok, I'm AT the expensive Tshirt, where I can buy a tshirt and walk out of the door with it. WHY would I want to then go to a "virtual" tshirt job, buy a shirt, and then wait for days for it to show up?
Yes Augmented Reality is profound. There are some pretty cool things you can do with it. Building a "virtual shop where a real one already exists." Is probably the least cool.
Sure there will be lawyers. When people come out with the 'nudity' app that paints an image of a naked girl whenever you a particular person... But I'm pretty sure it isn't anything that slander and libel lawyers don't already deal with today.
What about support, administration, setup of wifi networks or 3g costs, software and security updates, replacement of broken hardware etc.?
A lot of these problems already exist. Printers break, they need a network, etc.
What can a civil servant do with an tablet that they can't do with a cheaper laptop or netbook?
Carry it around. A tablet is more convenient than a laptop or netbook
And why dismiss the obvious solution to expensive printing costs - buy cheaper paper and ink?
How do you know they haven't already done this?
Or charge the users for each page printed?
While this might reduce printing, it doesn't solve the problem. It just moves the accounting around.
Yes there are problems, and I'm not sure that the iPad (or any other tablet) is the answer (primarily because of notetaking) but it isn't far off. Sure there will still be a need for printers. But if you could reduce that by 75 or 90%...
What technologies has Microsoft blocked? How have they set humanity back decades? I guess we were going to the moon in the 70s.
PETA has been photographing naked women for years. So this isn't that big of a surprise
Don't they know you NEVER go full retard? Was there any doubt in their insanity after the "sea kitten" episode? For those that didn't hear, and I swear I ain't making this shit up, PETA demanded that all mentions of fish be replaced with the words 'sea kittens"
I don't care for the taste of sea kittens much myself. But land kittens... yummmmm! Even better than puppies!
George owes us a usable copy of the original. That's a 35mm print BTW.
George doesn't owe you (or us) anything. At some point his creation will enter public domain. When that happens, George isn't obligated to cough up the original masters. As far as fraud goes, well I'm not sure what fraud you think he is perpetrating.
And geez look the more you get taxed, the more money you take home!
What does corporate tax have to do with capital gains? Oh yeah thats right, nothing. The more taxes a corporation pays means the company makes more more, and the generally means the stock goes up, which means the owner has a higher capital gain. But these two things aren't related. IT doesn't equate to "50% tax"
over something that isn't even a big deal.
And that is the real problem. The fact that so many people think it is ok (or not a big deal) to steal from others.
I'm sure the wildlife he cheated out of money are hurting right now.
Computer Coding? Seriously? Can they also teach people how to write good titles?
I don't know what a GCSE (Global Climate Scary Earth?) so I don't know how that relates to a 7 or a 14 year old.
But computer programming isn't like learning a language. I think there is enough evidence to support the theory that young children learn languages easier than adults. I don't think that necessarily applies to programming.
Yes if you start when you are 7, then you will be better at it than when you start at 14. But for that matter why not start teaching 7 year olds calculus and advanced microbiology? It might be important to teach a 7 year old how to use a computer, but it isn't necessary to teach them how to program it at that age.
I was listening to a TWiT tech podcast, don't remember which one or who said this, but... They asked for one thing in a software patent... working demonstration code.
Immediately, light bulbs were going off for me. Finally, that might solve some abandon-ware problems.
How does this solve any problems? Chances our if you are patenting something, you actually have at LEAST a demo of the item being patented. A demo probably won't have a "practical use idea" either. Just a demonstration of the product.
How about no one?
Why do we need security anyways?
I don't go through a metal detector, have my bags xrayed, and my balls groped when I get on a bus, the subway, a cruise ship, when I drive my car. So why should I have it when I get on a plane?
Failure to detect a threat does not mean if was unsuccessful at finding a threat.
I'm pretty sure that if you fail to detect something, you fail to find it. That is sort of the definition of detect.
Perhaps you meant that just because they failed to detect a threat, doesn't mean they failed to deter one. Yeah that might be true. But about the only threat they could deter is a moronic one (like the guy who lit his underpants on fire... oh wait, not only did they fail to detect that one they also failed to deter it.)
Not really no. The point of the TSA - a government agency that assumes accountability for security of air travel is good.
The T in TSA stands for Transportation. Not Air travel. And its not like we don't already have Law Enforcement Officers. We don't need the TSA.
Security? What security?
Ah, this does nothing but ask for even more clarification, as it would suggest that the FCC currently does not know exactly how the public would react to having access to this database?
If you need more clarification, you could, you know, RTFA!
Here, let me help you:
But the FCC's rules require that device-makers contact a database system to obtain a list of channels that aren't currently being used by radio services at their current locations to prevent possible interference with broadcasts.
It is illegal to copy a work you don't have permission to copy. Downloading a game when you don't have permission to download is illegal.
being offensive and posting 'hate-speech' needs to be punished
Really? Offensive to whom? Who decides what is 'hate-speech'? You should have a right to hate someone, and have the right to proclaim your hatred.