why are you relocating? if you fear for the wellbeing of your family you should know the health insurance for american workers is generally inferior to that of many european nations especially when considering their family coverage. The public education is routinely inferior as well, and 40 hours per week for tech workers is conservative in many cases. You arent going to see much more than 1-2 weeks of vacation in the first year in the states, and several of the southern states are sadly virulently xenophobic.
can you clarify on what you mean by markets pulling the teeth out of strong european countries? You make it seem like you've simply become jaded by a spate of recent financial reforms. Strong Europeans are the backbone of strong European countries, so if you and others leave it simply leaves more room to turn the EU into a libertarian dystopia.
figured id chime in again and mention that yes, the warranty is absolutely valid. I had a 101 classic shipped with keys that were DOA (ctrl, alt, and numlock) and the turnaround from Lexington to Los Angeles was 3 days. The packaging was very well done, and the entire keyboard had been replaced for free along with an apology from an actual carbon lifeform over the phone.
my spacesaver 104 with the windows keys feels a bit tighter than the 101 for keyclicks, but its not a bad thing. after 2 years of heavy use and the occasional spill, the spacebar died on the spacesaver. Out of warranty, I shipped the keyboard back in its original box and for $30 it was fixed.
Unlike the latest plastic-key abortion to fall off a chinese freighter, you can easily repair the spacesaver and the 101 yourself, as there are plenty of worthwhile tutorials online. Im just a lazy nerd.
The reason i keep buying Unicomp is the lettering has got to be the quality and the warranty. Compared to laptop keyboards or anything else (most desktop keyboards are rapidly devolving into detached laptop keyboards out of manufacturing cost alone) I feel like i can work on a unicomp confidently and comfortably for hours on end. Coworkers detest the sound until they realize its an american keyboard with two decades of history, and the sound serves as a reminder to anyone dragging me into a conference call to keep it short.
from the company that holds the original design patent from IBM for the Model M, and inhereted the process from Lexmark. The keyboard is still built and serviced in Lexington, Kentucky. They ship internationally. have a nice rennaissance.
that some attendees, hardcore geeks, what not, may have one or numerous personality disorders. ADHD and Asbergers being a few ive encountered frequently at defcon and scale. Is it possible many of these individuals simply dont understand the ramifications of what theyre doing? that this has less become eschewed into the culture and more an uncomfortable affect of its nature?
As a male im disgusted at Genevieves treatment, but as a community how do we not only police this type of deviant behavior but work to educate those who may not understand the full range of human interactions what it is they are doing and why it is wrong?
scroll down the facebook just far enough to establish the individual has committed a crime, but not so far as to reveal the underlying socio-economic factors that precipitated the crime. refactoring a system of gross inequality is harder than biblical retribution, and it means we dont fill as many prisons.
about this man, ive been working software development for years and conservative coders have trampled on me for a long time. First with globalized variables and for functions with huge returns, and then complaining about local variables in my code that havent worked for years, but still take up too much resources? i mean 99% of the code is local variables in the project im working on right now. yeah some of the stubs might not work but the rest of them do just fine. Im not trying to use Class warfare or anything because ive coded around most of its methods (the conservatives pretty much demanded it) but i swear if they dont stop ignoring the garbage collectors ill be forced to occupy swap space.
of this bullshit iran wardrum thumping. its like every summary tries to outdo its predecessor in terms of wackiness in its attempt to paint Iran as some sort of zany international joke. from TFA, guise:
"The establishment of the national intelligence network will create a situation where the precious intelligence of the country won't be accessible to these powers," Mr Taghipour told a conference on Sunday at Tehran's Amir Kabir University.
at no point does this interview even suggest the country is going to forego the fucking internet entirely. this is to iran as GSI was to the UK
its is to iran as SIPRnet is to America, but we dont ridicule SIPRNet on the same level.
the cherrypick summary about George Bush Juniors first thrust into this hornets nest that most americans dont seem threatened by at all misses the point entirely.. The state of Iran, which has proven capable of downing our most advanced drone technology, is now adapting formal military countermeasures to combat the worms and trojans being developed by the only two governments on the planet that seem to outright lust for its destruction.
the same way we started enacting the drug war. Dont police the suburbs and make sure to target poor minority communities first as they lack resources to fight the use of drones. slowly expand the presence, just as we have with helicopters, to suburban areas as well. pretty soon no one will remember why or how the drones came to be.
give these guys a chance. I mean the state department is obviously
trying as
best they
can to tune the war drums. You cant expect an overnight sensation like Iraq every time.
We can't cut social security because old people will starve in the streets.
yes. capitalism and its patterns and processes of social inequality have guaranteed only a select few will be able to retire. it hasnt solved retirement, and its best attempt (the 401k) has actually ruined more people than its retired.
We can't cut the drug benefits because old people can't afford their medication.
right, so we reformed healthcare in america and you bitched about the death panels and illegal aliens.
We can't cut the military, or our enemies will attack us.
we've made more enemies in 30 years than we have friends. the fix here is to start treating foreign policy seriously and stop shooting at the middle east to try and make it free.
We can't cut unemployment benefits, because people are unemployed.
we can cut unemployment benefits to the bone. Conversely it makes the Occupy protests in your city far more numerous, and far more violent, as there is no capitalist solution for these people either.
We can't cut support to the bank industry because they need help to recover.
King george inked the check for that one, and no we cant let banks fail because then rich people are made to eat humble pie and experience the same loss as the rest of us. thats unacceptable.
And apparently, we also can't cut science funding, or scientists will die.
not scientists, us. we as a civilization aside from our monetary constructs and our 9 to 5 jobs will be cutting something that cures disease, finds answers to our existence, and seeks to better life for everyone. Cutting science usurps the other proposed cuts, in my humble assessment, by orders of magnitude. Social scientists (sociologists) help identify the causes of and solutions to poverty, economists are in their own right scientists who work to prevent bank bailouts and stimulate jobs. political scientists help avoid the two costly wars incepted by king george and help turn our enemies into friends. biomedical scientists make sure advanced life saving drugs are invented, and agricultural science helps make healthy affordable food resistant to drought and disease with which we can feed everyone
what i havent heard anyone tell me is, what the fuck is this "massive debt" weve suddenly incurred? and why is it the same people who snored through two foreign wars under the most expensive president in the last two decades are suddenly so fucking keen to reduce "the debt" by cutting things that are unrelated to lemon socialism and foreign impreialism?
a fully solar society would have to start doing things like intelligent street lighting, or traffic lights that only illuminate to indicate stops.
it might be neat to see what kind of impact it has on global trade as well, considering third shift anything could become difficult or conversely more expensive than daytime manufacturing.
I know the lunar landing and the flag come up a bunch in conversation and even sometimes on slashdot. Let me tell you, the state of the flag is taken very seriously here at Buena Vista studios in Burbank. What you may not know is that we've had a few touch-and-go situations that, had there been an actual lunar landing, would have been very similar to the storyline!
1977: doug, old key grip for leave it to beaver, accidentally left flag on the set of a hawaii 5-0 episode.
1981: flagpole repurposed for episode of the love boat, shuffleboard scene, and forgotten in a prop shop for 9 days.
1993: flag destroyed by stunt dog for the upcoming 1994 release of Lassie the movie.
2006: after a tragic accident involving bottle of wine and the original star wars reels, flag was quickly repurposed as an absorbant towel to no great effect
2009: flag replaced after concerns surfaced regarding wine stains.
poor guy who is actually more well renound for deciding to help wikileaks and spending most of his 2010 travel itinerary detained and threatened by customs agents.
for me, he falls somewhere between hero and legend. im certain for the government he falls somewhere between drone strike and gulag.
as we all know by now SOPA wasnt the legislation we needed. it would never pass because under analysis by our patrio-tastic legislators it didnt work, so therefore we at the RIAA havent failed in our mission. We've merely come to appreciate the system of checks and balances that our freely elected government sees fit to impose to ensure whats just, right, and proper is applied to society.
this upcoming legislation however is correct and will prevent download piracy, a form of terrorism used by iranian homicide bombers, from taking place by using digital locks and content protection to preserve freedom. please disregard its passage.
after the android honeycomb. none of these devices has made me more productive or enriched my life by any measurable degree. each just seems to be another pitchfork with which to mine my personal information and induce me to consume more crap i dont need.
is not that defcon researchers are building a system to track these planes, but that a completely parallel system for the well-to-do has been engineered expressly to ensure the secrecy of their travel.
im not talking about guys like Jimmy Buffet who own a jet though, i mean guys like
Pat Robertson who once abused his personal fleet of jets to operate a diamong mine in the congo, and Tom Cruise who invests in and contributes much to the cause of Scientology. When was this list constructed? Arguably recently as had it been a longstanding feature of the FAA we would never have known the executives from american automotive industries traveled by private jet to panhandle congress for a bailout.
and do the obvious thing: stop bombing random countries in the middle east every four to eight years. Anyone whos read Osama Bin Ladens demand list knows that most of his argument is structured around the fact that we bomb indiscriminately most of the middle east, topple their governments, kill their nationals and foreign nationals with drones, prop up malevolent dictators and generally leave the countries we've "touched" a complete wreck. trolling for peace will be nearly as effective as the like button was for Kony2012.
the state department understands quite well we need al quaeda in some form, hence a plan thats effectively designed to bolster recruitment. Without a boogeyman we have no pretext to assert regional dominance, and that would mean we would have to double down on our iran rhetoric and face whats largely believed to be a capable opponent in a war no one would support. Everything since the carter foreign policy doctrine has completely screwed this country into ensuring we pound the snot out of some unsuspecting foreign nation in the gulf once a presidency, its just that we're running out of little guys to fight that dont have big teeth, or allies that simply wont tolerate the action.
dell gives linux laptops another chance, implying they were never a viable idea from the get-go. Personally? Fuck Dell. id rather take my business to system76 or penguin computing, or even los alamos if i had the cash. these are places where linux on the desktop is something thats existed and will continue to exist as long as your favourite linux is produced, so you dont need to worry about getting redmonds buy-in on how powerful your linux desktop is allowed to be, or at what pricepoint its required to be set.
TL;DR: stop buying linux from people who pander to the community for extra scratch in the fourth quarter earnings report.
Every week i hear a new story about advances in laser technologies, but shark related advancements (laser mounts, shark compatible targeting for lasers, and underwater shark optics) are NEVER covered.
it's biased towards "highbrow" which is to appeal to left leaning upper middle class people.
right, because PBS and NPR are trying to promote enriching and beneficial news and entertainment in separate realms. as for the left leaning upper middle class people, i guess they just havent succumbed to the sophistication of nascar and larry the cable guy.
It focuses much more on culture that the masses don't care about (such as opera).
So the acclaimed science program Nova, Inspector Lewis, Downtown Abbey, and Childrens programming like Barney? im sure there are others
Oddly, it's pro investing but mildly anti-business
so a television station that isnt willing to just carte blanche pander for advertising cash and instead gets a chance to truly criticize things like hydraulic fracturing and the pharmaceutical industry has somehow become a bad thing.
I doubt your brother has ever watched PBS (the "listeny" one is called NPR, both under the CPB but separate entities.) flamebait bullshit like "theres a small bit of truth" is the same crap FOX does in order to gin up dissent against anything that goes against the GOP or its inherent interests. it would be better to say "my brother once watched Tavis Smiley form a coherent and well structured argument against the established patterns and processes of social inequality as it applies to race, and that didnt fit with my american dream narrative so now the entire station is some sort of marxist cabal."
disclaimer: I'm a huge fan of texans. your government, not really.
this is a state that fails to recognize things like the need for comprehensive medical care and climate change science. they push each year to have evolution redacted from the textbooks and think assembling as elected leaders to pray for rain will somehow solve this states perpetual immolation and drought problem. Texas legislature presides over the largest teen pregnancy rate in the nation yet insists abstinence only is a perfectly reasonable approach to the situation.
what marks this as pork is the fact that texas has somehow found a way to eschew its unbearable aversion to science and technology for just this time in the pursuit of energy that is not fossil fuel based, and creates a staggaring 20 jobs in a county that publishes no statistic on its unemployment.
you have to realize that many of the "cyber hackers" the government is eyeballing are the very same people that love nothing more than to leak classified data and hack into defense secrets solely because they view your establishent as the problem.
speaking as one of the the aformentioned non-regulation pierced guy, i can say that each time i hear a blowhard suit at the anything-department wax prophetic upon anything prefixed with "cyber," i roll my eyes, turn up the hardcore techno, and go back to writing that python interface for the communications receiver I bought on craigslist a few months back.
no one cares about the next war you're trying to sell america except the mouthbreathing walmartians in the sticks. the people youre trying to "reach out to" explicitly do not respond because they arent stupid enough to nod when told "be all you can be." as knowledge is power they understand enough about your institution to avoid it at all costs. all its done in the past 40 years is act as an engine of misery, destruction and sorrow across the globe.
why are you relocating? if you fear for the wellbeing of your family you should know the health insurance for american workers is generally inferior to that of many european nations especially when considering their family coverage. The public education is routinely inferior as well, and 40 hours per week for tech workers is conservative in many cases. You arent going to see much more than 1-2 weeks of vacation in the first year in the states, and several of the southern states are sadly virulently xenophobic.
can you clarify on what you mean by markets pulling the teeth out of strong european countries? You make it seem like you've simply become jaded by a spate of recent financial reforms. Strong Europeans are the backbone of strong European countries, so if you and others leave it simply leaves more room to turn the EU into a libertarian dystopia.
figured id chime in again and mention that yes, the warranty is absolutely valid. I had a 101 classic shipped with keys that were DOA (ctrl, alt, and numlock) and the turnaround from Lexington to Los Angeles was 3 days. The packaging was very well done, and the entire keyboard had been replaced for free along with an apology from an actual carbon lifeform over the phone.
my spacesaver 104 with the windows keys feels a bit tighter than the 101 for keyclicks, but its not a bad thing. after 2 years of heavy use and the occasional spill, the spacebar died on the spacesaver. Out of warranty, I shipped the keyboard back in its original box and for $30 it was fixed.
Unlike the latest plastic-key abortion to fall off a chinese freighter, you can easily repair the spacesaver and the 101 yourself, as there are plenty of worthwhile tutorials online. Im just a lazy nerd.
The reason i keep buying Unicomp is the lettering has got to be the quality and the warranty. Compared to laptop keyboards or anything else (most desktop keyboards are rapidly devolving into detached laptop keyboards out of manufacturing cost alone) I feel like i can work on a unicomp confidently and comfortably for hours on end. Coworkers detest the sound until they realize its an american keyboard with two decades of history, and the sound serves as a reminder to anyone dragging me into a conference call to keep it short.
from the company that holds the original design patent from IBM for the Model M, and inhereted the process from Lexmark. The keyboard is still built and serviced in Lexington, Kentucky. They ship internationally. have a nice rennaissance.
http://www.pckeyboard.com/
that some attendees, hardcore geeks, what not, may have one or numerous personality disorders. ADHD and Asbergers being a few ive encountered frequently at defcon and scale. Is it possible many of these individuals simply dont understand the ramifications of what theyre doing? that this has less become eschewed into the culture and more an uncomfortable affect of its nature?
As a male im disgusted at Genevieves treatment, but as a community how do we not only police this type of deviant behavior but work to educate those who may not understand the full range of human interactions what it is they are doing and why it is wrong?
scroll down the facebook just far enough to establish the individual has committed a crime, but not so far as to reveal the underlying socio-economic factors that precipitated the crime. refactoring a system of gross inequality is harder than biblical retribution, and it means we dont fill as many prisons.
about this man, ive been working software development for years and conservative coders have trampled on me for a long time. First with globalized variables and for functions with huge returns, and then complaining about local variables in my code that havent worked for years, but still take up too much resources? i mean 99% of the code is local variables in the project im working on right now. yeah some of the stubs might not work but the rest of them do just fine. Im not trying to use Class warfare or anything because ive coded around most of its methods (the conservatives pretty much demanded it) but i swear if they dont stop ignoring the garbage collectors ill be forced to occupy swap space.
"The establishment of the national intelligence network will create a situation where the precious intelligence of the country won't be accessible to these powers," Mr Taghipour told a conference on Sunday at Tehran's Amir Kabir University.
at no point does this interview even suggest the country is going to forego the fucking internet entirely. this is to iran as GSI was to the UK
its is to iran as SIPRnet is to America, but we dont ridicule SIPRNet on the same level.
the cherrypick summary about George Bush Juniors first thrust into this hornets nest that most americans dont seem threatened by at all misses the point entirely.. The state of Iran, which has proven capable of downing our most advanced drone technology, is now adapting formal military countermeasures to combat the worms and trojans being developed by the only two governments on the planet that seem to outright lust for its destruction.
the same way we started enacting the drug war. Dont police the suburbs and make sure to target poor minority communities first as they lack resources to fight the use of drones. slowly expand the presence, just as we have with helicopters, to suburban areas as well. pretty soon no one will remember why or how the drones came to be.
give these guys a chance. I mean the state department is obviously trying as best they can to tune the war drums. You cant expect an overnight sensation like Iraq every time.
We can't cut social security because old people will starve in the streets.
yes. capitalism and its patterns and processes of social inequality have guaranteed only a select few will be able to retire. it hasnt solved retirement, and its best attempt (the 401k) has actually ruined more people than its retired.
We can't cut the drug benefits because old people can't afford their medication.
right, so we reformed healthcare in america and you bitched about the death panels and illegal aliens.
We can't cut the military, or our enemies will attack us.
we've made more enemies in 30 years than we have friends. the fix here is to start treating foreign policy seriously and stop shooting at the middle east to try and make it free.
We can't cut unemployment benefits, because people are unemployed.
we can cut unemployment benefits to the bone. Conversely it makes the Occupy protests in your city far more numerous, and far more violent, as there is no capitalist solution for these people either.
We can't cut support to the bank industry because they need help to recover.
King george inked the check for that one, and no we cant let banks fail because then rich people are made to eat humble pie and experience the same loss as the rest of us. thats unacceptable.
And apparently, we also can't cut science funding, or scientists will die.
not scientists, us. we as a civilization aside from our monetary constructs and our 9 to 5 jobs will be cutting something that cures disease, finds answers to our existence, and seeks to better life for everyone. Cutting science usurps the other proposed cuts, in my humble assessment, by orders of magnitude. Social scientists (sociologists) help identify the causes of and solutions to poverty, economists are in their own right scientists who work to prevent bank bailouts and stimulate jobs. political scientists help avoid the two costly wars incepted by king george and help turn our enemies into friends. biomedical scientists make sure advanced life saving drugs are invented, and agricultural science helps make healthy affordable food resistant to drought and disease with which we can feed everyone
what i havent heard anyone tell me is, what the fuck is this "massive debt" weve suddenly incurred? and why is it the same people who snored through two foreign wars under the most expensive president in the last two decades are suddenly so fucking keen to reduce "the debt" by cutting things that are unrelated to lemon socialism and foreign impreialism?
a fully solar society would have to start doing things like intelligent street lighting, or traffic lights that only illuminate to indicate stops.
it might be neat to see what kind of impact it has on global trade as well, considering third shift anything could become difficult or conversely more expensive than daytime manufacturing.
I know the lunar landing and the flag come up a bunch in conversation and even sometimes on slashdot. Let me tell you, the state of the flag is taken very seriously here at Buena Vista studios in Burbank. What you may not know is that we've had a few touch-and-go situations that, had there been an actual lunar landing, would have been very similar to the storyline!
1977: doug, old key grip for leave it to beaver, accidentally left flag on the set of a hawaii 5-0 episode.
1981: flagpole repurposed for episode of the love boat, shuffleboard scene, and forgotten in a prop shop for 9 days.
1993: flag destroyed by stunt dog for the upcoming 1994 release of Lassie the movie.
2006: after a tragic accident involving bottle of wine and the original star wars reels, flag was quickly repurposed as an absorbant towel to no great effect
2009: flag replaced after concerns surfaced regarding wine stains.
poor guy who is actually more well renound for deciding to help wikileaks and spending most of his 2010 travel itinerary detained and threatened by customs agents.
for me, he falls somewhere between hero and legend. im certain for the government he falls somewhere between drone strike and gulag.
as we all know by now SOPA wasnt the legislation we needed. it would never pass because under analysis by our patrio-tastic legislators it didnt work, so therefore we at the RIAA havent failed in our mission. We've merely come to appreciate the system of checks and balances that our freely elected government sees fit to impose to ensure whats just, right, and proper is applied to society.
this upcoming legislation however is correct and will prevent download piracy, a form of terrorism used by iranian homicide bombers, from taking place by using digital locks and content protection to preserve freedom. please disregard its passage.
after the android honeycomb. none of these devices has made me more productive or enriched my life by any measurable degree. each just seems to be another pitchfork with which to mine my personal information and induce me to consume more crap i dont need.
crime revolves around low education, social inequality, and cyclical poverty from low employment rates.
I can write that into perl, bash, python, or even C if you like, and i accept cash or check.
is not that defcon researchers are building a system to track these planes, but that a completely parallel system for the well-to-do has been engineered expressly to ensure the secrecy of their travel.
im not talking about guys like Jimmy Buffet who own a jet though, i mean guys like Pat Robertson who once abused his personal fleet of jets to operate a diamong mine in the congo, and Tom Cruise who invests in and contributes much to the cause of Scientology. When was this list constructed? Arguably recently as had it been a longstanding feature of the FAA we would never have known the executives from american automotive industries traveled by private jet to panhandle congress for a bailout.
what the fuck is a reprap aside from just one more attempt to sneak another makerbot story into slashdot
and do the obvious thing: stop bombing random countries in the middle east every four to eight years. Anyone whos read Osama Bin Ladens demand list knows that most of his argument is structured around the fact that we bomb indiscriminately most of the middle east, topple their governments, kill their nationals and foreign nationals with drones, prop up malevolent dictators and generally leave the countries we've "touched" a complete wreck. trolling for peace will be nearly as effective as the like button was for Kony2012.
the state department understands quite well we need al quaeda in some form, hence a plan thats effectively designed to bolster recruitment. Without a boogeyman we have no pretext to assert regional dominance, and that would mean we would have to double down on our iran rhetoric and face whats largely believed to be a capable opponent in a war no one would support. Everything since the carter foreign policy doctrine has completely screwed this country into ensuring we pound the snot out of some unsuspecting foreign nation in the gulf once a presidency, its just that we're running out of little guys to fight that dont have big teeth, or allies that simply wont tolerate the action.
dell gives linux laptops another chance, implying they were never a viable idea from the get-go. Personally? Fuck Dell. id rather take my business to system76 or penguin computing, or even los alamos if i had the cash. these are places where linux on the desktop is something thats existed and will continue to exist as long as your favourite linux is produced, so you dont need to worry about getting redmonds buy-in on how powerful your linux desktop is allowed to be, or at what pricepoint its required to be set.
TL;DR: stop buying linux from people who pander to the community for extra scratch in the fourth quarter earnings report.
Every week i hear a new story about advances in laser technologies, but shark related advancements (laser mounts, shark compatible targeting for lasers, and underwater shark optics) are NEVER covered.
The music is different but it shares the same beauty as the Slashdot version.
it's biased towards "highbrow" which is to appeal to left leaning upper middle class people.
right, because PBS and NPR are trying to promote enriching and beneficial news and entertainment in separate realms. as for the left leaning upper middle class people, i guess they just havent succumbed to the sophistication of nascar and larry the cable guy.
It focuses much more on culture that the masses don't care about (such as opera).
So the acclaimed science program Nova, Inspector Lewis, Downtown Abbey, and Childrens programming like Barney? im sure there are others
Oddly, it's pro investing but mildly anti-business
so a television station that isnt willing to just carte blanche pander for advertising cash and instead gets a chance to truly criticize things like hydraulic fracturing and the pharmaceutical industry has somehow become a bad thing.
I doubt your brother has ever watched PBS (the "listeny" one is called NPR, both under the CPB but separate entities.) flamebait bullshit like "theres a small bit of truth" is the same crap FOX does in order to gin up dissent against anything that goes against the GOP or its inherent interests. it would be better to say "my brother once watched Tavis Smiley form a coherent and well structured argument against the established patterns and processes of social inequality as it applies to race, and that didnt fit with my american dream narrative so now the entire station is some sort of marxist cabal."
disclaimer: I'm a huge fan of texans. your government, not really.
this is a state that fails to recognize things like the need for comprehensive medical care and climate change science. they push each year to have evolution redacted from the textbooks and think assembling as elected leaders to pray for rain will somehow solve this states perpetual immolation and drought problem. Texas legislature presides over the largest teen pregnancy rate in the nation yet insists abstinence only is a perfectly reasonable approach to the situation.
what marks this as pork is the fact that texas has somehow found a way to eschew its unbearable aversion to science and technology for just this time in the pursuit of energy that is not fossil fuel based, and creates a staggaring 20 jobs in a county that publishes no statistic on its unemployment.
you have to realize that many of the "cyber hackers" the government is eyeballing are the very same people that love nothing more than to leak classified data and hack into defense secrets solely because they view your establishent as the problem.
speaking as one of the the aformentioned non-regulation pierced guy, i can say that each time i hear a blowhard suit at the anything-department wax prophetic upon anything prefixed with "cyber," i roll my eyes, turn up the hardcore techno, and go back to writing that python interface for the communications receiver I bought on craigslist a few months back.
no one cares about the next war you're trying to sell america except the mouthbreathing walmartians in the sticks. the people youre trying to "reach out to" explicitly do not respond because they arent stupid enough to nod when told "be all you can be." as knowledge is power they understand enough about your institution to avoid it at all costs. all its done in the past 40 years is act as an engine of misery, destruction and sorrow across the globe.