This is the question I had as well. For those following along, Ethernet is magnetically coupled to isolate the Ethernet PHY (the IC/circuit that (de)modulates signals) from the transmission line. This means the signal is propagated across a transformer; there is no direct electrical path between the Ethernet cable and the host. So an attacker pushing high voltage+current into a drop should only be able to damage part of the isolation transformer, in theory.
I suspect the answer is that real Ethernet ports have compromised this model with highly integrated devices. The transformers are simply not tested to destruction with high power and there are failure modes that include welding the primary+secondary together in unfortunate ways, thermally destroying a package of multiple transformers and/or creating other shorts. Unless an electrical device is actually designed to fail gracefully under high current it probably won't. Thus fuses.
Oh yeah... now I know I'm dealing with a first class BS artist.
So, you propose that every single physical topology change require a visit to the switch closet/server room/whatever to manipulate patch cables?
Jesus H. Christ. How is it possible to be naive enough to think that is plausible and actually type it in a public forum?
While I have never, ever experienced a 90 day unused-port audit, every single site I've ever seen has secured its network hardware behind locked doors, at a minimum. I do that much in my own home. Access is always limited to the few BOFHs trusted with the keys/cards. There is no way in hell IT peons are going to be popping in and out of dark, secured areas every time someone wants to move a printer from one jack to another.
No. Fucking. Way.
Stop typing stuff now. You're just making a fool of yourself. At least you had the good sense to be AC when you started talking out of your ass this morning.
Just because you are too busy to follow the practice, doesn't mean it isn't a good idea.
What is good about an idea that doesn't actually protect anything? All your "best practice" has done is secure unused ports. USED ports can still be zapped, and from either end of the cable too. Or did your "best practice" also assume non-removable and armored Ethernet cables?
Your "best practice" is a fiction inside your head.
If you're following Information Security best practice you shouldn't have any unconnected sockets in your office, and they should be audited at least every 3 months.
So you've raised the bar for the attacker from "zap any random RJ45 jack" to "unplug something and zap that RJ45 jack"? Or am I missing something?
Offending the environmental activ^Hbureaucrats and their noble regulations makes for great Green Theater. You can kill all the bumkins you want, but don't mess with the Green Police. Such are our priorities, right or wrong. Just so you know, this is not a surprise to many of us; not sure why you had trouble figuring it out before now.
Benchmarks of Skylake i7-6700K vs Broadwell i7-5775C show the Skylake CPU to be faster. Cheaper too. The Broadwell chip can perform better on some OpenCL tasks due to the Iris Pro integrated GPU, but non-GPU tasks handled by integer and floating point units, cryptography and media extensions are always faster on the Skylake CPU. The "which the Broadwell-C outperformed" part is stupid sour grapes from an unhappy little malcontent.
Kinda. The fraction of people that don't qualify for substantial benefits is getting so small that your claim is arguably true; if you don't qualify now it's not hard to get there. I don't know anyone over 30 that doesn't have at least one health problem they couldn't leverage into disability+snap+free healthcare+etc if they wanted to.
With that qualification, we already know what it looks like as well; just go to Ferguson and walk around Florissant or "council" housing block in the UK, among many others. You take away the motivation get up in the morning and participate in the world in some non-anti-social manner and you ruin people. The worst part of welfare isn't the cost. It's what happens to dependents as they learn to subsist and wallow on the pittance their allowed.
The proponents of such things don't understand this. Their world view is one that assumes admirable behavior where recipients use the liberty of `basic income' for good works, education or whatnot, and they'll cite what amounts to an extended Scandinavian village where everyone is no more than three degrees from the royal family as an example of success.
Here, outside of la-la land, people supplement their government provided subsistence with crime, and vote for whomever tells them they deserve their bennies.
speed up the experimental work, which is at present being carried on within the limits of the budgets of University laboratories, by providing funds, if such funds be required
because Germany:
has actually stopped the sale of uranium from the Czechoslovakian mines, which she has taken over. That she should have taken such early action might perhaps be understood on the ground that the son of the German Under-Secretary of State, Von Weishlicker [sic], is attached to the Kaiser Wilheim Institute in Berlin where some of the American work on uranium is now being repeated.
Well known war profiteer Einstein wrote that to further the interests of his weapons manufacturing company and his international banking cartel buddies. Also, big oil.
Yes. Ordinary whitebread suburbanite kids with chemistry sets have been hassled by the authorities in this country, and Slashdot has indulged outrage about it too, as recently as last June. Put away your little group-think grievance detector.
The guy is creating a profile selection algorithm to sift through mostly fake algorithmically generated profiles because the fake profile site's own selection algorithm is inadequate.....
Yet another Democrat run city plumbing the depths of power abuse. Slashdot is unwittingly chronicling the erosion of civil liberties by libtard governed hell-holes.
With so many new shows each year, I have trouble deciding what to watch. My time is limited so I can't watch even a few minutes of every one of them.
These are called "white people problems."
I am failing to understand how any of this is an actual problem. So making a popular show doesn't mean you earn 200 lifetimes of income for you and yours because there is so much competition. How tragic. Excuse me while I spend 0.00035 microseconds feeling sorry for content owners and superstars.
We have been told, most often by IP owners, that without their staggering profits new content would no longer be made. I guess that's a "problem" we can stop worrying about.
"I didn't really stop and think what kind of email system will there be"
Clinton thought hard about the kind of email system there would be. It was the kind under her exclusive control; to be wiped at will. As usual, the Clinton's statements are 100% out of phase with the truth.
Someone should have been perp walked by now.
Gowdy is starting to subpoena people; Pagliano — one of Clinton's henchmen from the State Department — may have to publically take the 5th as soon as next Thursday. Democrats need to get use to the idea of months and years of ugly, damning headlines, just like the 90's. But don't worry; eventually Clinton will get back on the "rich+corporations pay their fair share" message and our hate filled sheeple will put her in office, because that's who we are.
Horseshit. I know from personal experience that your "cash cow" theory is pure fiction.
My previous home had both Comcast and Qwest/Centurylink. I had 12-20Mbps from the latter and 20-50Mbps from the former at various points up to 8 years ago. Both of those companies are entirely capable of providing broadband when they are not faced with la-la land anti-business governments making their job into a minefield.
You can't even get cable? Plain old cable tee vee? What the actual fuck?
I had cable in an 80 year old house outside Detroit in 1983. 32 years ago.
Like I've said before; you deserve it. You've made your bed with your la-la land government — so live in it. Next lifetime, change your ways and vote for grown-ups.
I live within walking distance of actual livestock and real, operating farms, twenty minutes way from a metropolitan area, and I have 60 Mbps business class service. The fact that Seattle, WA is still a broadband desert is so damning it defies belief. Whatever the fuck it is you Seattle knuckleheads have done to yourselves to end up like this....... all I can say is; you deserve it. You really do.
You've governed yourself into a permanent Internet backwater. Congratulations. Go rename your volcano Mt. Talolhowakaji or whatever the 'natives' are demanding.
The East Coast is in the "longest hurricane drought in recorded history," something the "climatologists" got 100% wrong when they attributed Katrina to "global warming" and predicted "more extreme weather." The media, their fear-mongering "science correspondents" with their AGW group-think and their preferred celebrity climatologists were wrong then and they're wrong now. We can no more explain why no hurricane has made landfall in the Gulf in 10 years than we can explain why their is an outlier sequence in the Pacific today.
Yet another 100% Democrat controlled hellhole setting new lows in abuse of power. Quick! Someone go interview the token Republican on the city council and get a damning quote so we have someone to blame.
San Jose; 9 of 11 city council seats Democrat and 100% Democrat mayors going back to the 60's and the one token Republican get singled out by you and your press....
but in practice I think the process would be so corrupt that it would not work well.
The irony is that some neighborhoods in the US have gone to private contractors to escape their own corrupt governments. Their tax dollars vanish into burgeoning public worker retirement systems and the bloated salaries of 220k/year bureaucrats and their streets go unpatrolled, so they hire private cops to cover their neighborhoods.
This is happening across the US, typically in `enclave' neighborhoods; areas that aren't desperately poor, but are governed by failed municipalities and counties that have allowed their public budgets to be bled dry.
People in those positions really do think they are above the law.
Why shouldn't they believe that? The Clintons, in particular, have used their popularity to brush aside one scandal after another for decades. It isn't over for Hillary et. al this time, either. They'll select a fall guy from among their entourage and throw him under the bus, the media will dutifully drop the matter, Hillary will continue to say "rich pay their fair share" into all the cameras and we'll elect her.
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This is the question I had as well. For those following along, Ethernet is magnetically coupled to isolate the Ethernet PHY (the IC/circuit that (de)modulates signals) from the transmission line. This means the signal is propagated across a transformer; there is no direct electrical path between the Ethernet cable and the host. So an attacker pushing high voltage+current into a drop should only be able to damage part of the isolation transformer, in theory.
I suspect the answer is that real Ethernet ports have compromised this model with highly integrated devices. The transformers are simply not tested to destruction with high power and there are failure modes that include welding the primary+secondary together in unfortunate ways, thermally destroying a package of multiple transformers and/or creating other shorts. Unless an electrical device is actually designed to fail gracefully under high current it probably won't. Thus fuses.
Oh yeah... now I know I'm dealing with a first class BS artist.
So, you propose that every single physical topology change require a visit to the switch closet/server room/whatever to manipulate patch cables?
Jesus H. Christ. How is it possible to be naive enough to think that is plausible and actually type it in a public forum?
While I have never, ever experienced a 90 day unused-port audit, every single site I've ever seen has secured its network hardware behind locked doors, at a minimum. I do that much in my own home. Access is always limited to the few BOFHs trusted with the keys/cards. There is no way in hell IT peons are going to be popping in and out of dark, secured areas every time someone wants to move a printer from one jack to another.
No. Fucking. Way.
Stop typing stuff now. You're just making a fool of yourself. At least you had the good sense to be AC when you started talking out of your ass this morning.
Just because you are too busy to follow the practice, doesn't mean it isn't a good idea.
What is good about an idea that doesn't actually protect anything? All your "best practice" has done is secure unused ports. USED ports can still be zapped, and from either end of the cable too. Or did your "best practice" also assume non-removable and armored Ethernet cables?
Your "best practice" is a fiction inside your head.
If you're following Information Security best practice you shouldn't have any unconnected sockets in your office, and they should be audited at least every 3 months.
So you've raised the bar for the attacker from "zap any random RJ45 jack" to "unplug something and zap that RJ45 jack"? Or am I missing something?
I for one would like to know
Offending the environmental activ^Hbureaucrats and their noble regulations makes for great Green Theater. You can kill all the bumkins you want, but don't mess with the Green Police. Such are our priorities, right or wrong. Just so you know, this is not a surprise to many of us; not sure why you had trouble figuring it out before now.
Neckbeards are commonly associated with hipster stereotypes and Internet addicts who frequent websites like 4chan and Reddit.
Was there a punishment when GM recently had a major oops?
Sept. 17, 2015: GM will pay $900 million to settle the U.S. Justice Department case, which charged GM with wire fraud and scheming to conceal a deadly safety defect from U.S. regulators, according to a criminal information filed by federal prosecutors ..... GM separately Thursday said it planned to take a $575 million charge in the third quarter for settling nearly 1,400 lawsuits arising from the defective switch.
All the neck-beard hipster blather about magical VW mileage is at an end.
Thank. Fucking. Christ.
Please stop wrecking our air and dispose of your fraudulent VW pollution machine. Thanks!
Yeah, it's called the Clean Air Act. It empowers the government to regulate auto emissions. Deliberately defeating a testing regime is fraud.
Benchmarks of Skylake i7-6700K vs Broadwell i7-5775C show the Skylake CPU to be faster. Cheaper too. The Broadwell chip can perform better on some OpenCL tasks due to the Iris Pro integrated GPU, but non-GPU tasks handled by integer and floating point units, cryptography and media extensions are always faster on the Skylake CPU. The "which the Broadwell-C outperformed" part is stupid sour grapes from an unhappy little malcontent.
Kinda. The fraction of people that don't qualify for substantial benefits is getting so small that your claim is arguably true; if you don't qualify now it's not hard to get there. I don't know anyone over 30 that doesn't have at least one health problem they couldn't leverage into disability+snap+free healthcare+etc if they wanted to.
With that qualification, we already know what it looks like as well; just go to Ferguson and walk around Florissant or "council" housing block in the UK, among many others. You take away the motivation get up in the morning and participate in the world in some non-anti-social manner and you ruin people. The worst part of welfare isn't the cost. It's what happens to dependents as they learn to subsist and wallow on the pittance their allowed.
The proponents of such things don't understand this. Their world view is one that assumes admirable behavior where recipients use the liberty of `basic income' for good works, education or whatnot, and they'll cite what amounts to an extended Scandinavian village where everyone is no more than three degrees from the royal family as an example of success.
Here, outside of la-la land, people supplement their government provided subsistence with crime, and vote for whomever tells them they deserve their bennies.
speed up the experimental work, which is at present being carried on within the limits of the budgets of University laboratories, by providing funds, if such funds be required
because Germany:
has actually stopped the sale of uranium from the Czechoslovakian mines, which she has taken over. That she should have taken such early action might perhaps be understood on the ground that the son of the German Under-Secretary of State, Von Weishlicker [sic], is attached to the Kaiser Wilheim Institute in Berlin where some of the American work on uranium is now being repeated.
Well known war profiteer Einstein wrote that to further the interests of his weapons manufacturing company and his international banking cartel buddies. Also, big oil.
Yes. Ordinary whitebread suburbanite kids with chemistry sets have been hassled by the authorities in this country, and Slashdot has indulged outrage about it too, as recently as last June. Put away your little group-think grievance detector.
The guy is creating a profile selection algorithm to sift through mostly fake algorithmically generated profiles because the fake profile site's own selection algorithm is inadequate.....
Sexbots are going to be really, really popular.
Yet another Democrat run city plumbing the depths of power abuse. Slashdot is unwittingly chronicling the erosion of civil liberties by libtard governed hell-holes.
San Jose May Put License Plate Scanners On Garbage Trucks
In Baltimore and Elsewhere, Police Use Stingrays For Petty Crimes
With so many new shows each year, I have trouble deciding what to watch. My time is limited so I can't watch even a few minutes of every one of them.
These are called "white people problems."
I am failing to understand how any of this is an actual problem. So making a popular show doesn't mean you earn 200 lifetimes of income for you and yours because there is so much competition. How tragic. Excuse me while I spend 0.00035 microseconds feeling sorry for content owners and superstars.
We have been told, most often by IP owners, that without their staggering profits new content would no longer be made. I guess that's a "problem" we can stop worrying about.
"I didn't really stop and think what kind of email system will there be"
Clinton thought hard about the kind of email system there would be. It was the kind under her exclusive control; to be wiped at will. As usual, the Clinton's statements are 100% out of phase with the truth.
Someone should have been perp walked by now.
Gowdy is starting to subpoena people; Pagliano — one of Clinton's henchmen from the State Department — may have to publically take the 5th as soon as next Thursday. Democrats need to get use to the idea of months and years of ugly, damning headlines, just like the 90's. But don't worry; eventually Clinton will get back on the "rich+corporations pay their fair share" message and our hate filled sheeple will put her in office, because that's who we are.
So, no, it's not a matter of governance
Horseshit. I know from personal experience that your "cash cow" theory is pure fiction.
My previous home had both Comcast and Qwest/Centurylink. I had 12-20Mbps from the latter and 20-50Mbps from the former at various points up to 8 years ago. Both of those companies are entirely capable of providing broadband when they are not faced with la-la land anti-business governments making their job into a minefield.
Rationalize all you want. It's your fault. Enjoy.
You can't even get cable? Plain old cable tee vee? What the actual fuck?
I had cable in an 80 year old house outside Detroit in 1983. 32 years ago.
Like I've said before; you deserve it. You've made your bed with your la-la land government — so live in it. Next lifetime, change your ways and vote for grown-ups.
I live in Seattle
LOL.
I live within walking distance of actual livestock and real, operating farms, twenty minutes way from a metropolitan area, and I have 60 Mbps business class service. The fact that Seattle, WA is still a broadband desert is so damning it defies belief. Whatever the fuck it is you Seattle knuckleheads have done to yourselves to end up like this....... all I can say is; you deserve it. You really do.
You've governed yourself into a permanent Internet backwater. Congratulations. Go rename your volcano Mt. Talolhowakaji or whatever the 'natives' are demanding.
The East Coast is in the "longest hurricane drought in recorded history," something the "climatologists" got 100% wrong when they attributed Katrina to "global warming" and predicted "more extreme weather." The media, their fear-mongering "science correspondents" with their AGW group-think and their preferred celebrity climatologists were wrong then and they're wrong now. We can no more explain why no hurricane has made landfall in the Gulf in 10 years than we can explain why their is an outlier sequence in the Pacific today.
Yet another 100% Democrat controlled hellhole setting new lows in abuse of power. Quick! Someone go interview the token Republican on the city council and get a damning quote so we have someone to blame.
Never mind..... there isn't one.
San Jose; 9 of 11 city council seats Democrat and 100% Democrat mayors going back to the 60's and the one token Republican get singled out by you and your press....
Keep knock'n back that kool-aid.
but in practice I think the process would be so corrupt that it would not work well.
The irony is that some neighborhoods in the US have gone to private contractors to escape their own corrupt governments. Their tax dollars vanish into burgeoning public worker retirement systems and the bloated salaries of 220k/year bureaucrats and their streets go unpatrolled, so they hire private cops to cover their neighborhoods. This is happening across the US, typically in `enclave' neighborhoods; areas that aren't desperately poor, but are governed by failed municipalities and counties that have allowed their public budgets to be bled dry.
People in those positions really do think they are above the law.
Why shouldn't they believe that? The Clintons, in particular, have used their popularity to brush aside one scandal after another for decades. It isn't over for Hillary et. al this time, either. They'll select a fall guy from among their entourage and throw him under the bus, the media will dutifully drop the matter, Hillary will continue to say "rich pay their fair share" into all the cameras and we'll elect her.