People don't understand that we have civil liberties for a reason, and that reason is to protect us from our government. Imagine if Afganistan were to put this system in place. How hard would it be for them to add known protestors and possible defectors to the list of "known terrorists". Not imagine that we put all these checks in place and the U.S. It may not effect us now, but it will effect our future generations. We have to be very careful what we give away now to prevent bloodshed later.
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Just thought I'd weigh into this holy war by mentioning WinVi. It's done by a German guy and is available in English, German, and Spanish. The design goals were to be identical to Notepad in a CUI sense, but still have vi functionality. It isn't a perfect vi implementation, but it has the majority of things you would need, and it's a great bridge to vi. If you've wanted to learn vi, but don't want to give up windows L&F, then it's a great choice. Oh and it loads as fast as notepad, and it's GPL'ed.
Most of the commercial ones are "kitchen sink" distros that install and turn on everything to save the average user, who probably wouldn't know "make xconfig" or "/etc/rc.d" if we hit him over the head with them, the hassle of looking for them..... Debian and Slackware are (or were, I run SuSe but am having hassles w/rpm, may go back to slack or deb) less prone to this
Deb may disappoint you then. I would say that Debian is a great newbie distribution for those who don't know what/etc/ is. I never got IMAP working on RedHat (didn't really have the time), but getting it on Debian involved selecting it in dselect, looking at the additional packages it said it needed, and then selecting install. It also removes alot of needing to know where this package is and what it is dependant on: you just need to find debian package sources that you trust and add them into sources.list.
In some ways, Debian makes it too easy to install stuff leading to more bloat, although it is pretty easy to remove them as well.
I think you want something more like Linux From Scratch. Now there's a lack of bloat (8 Megs for an apache install, and they might be able to get it to 5!).
Another benefit of LFS is that you can create a very compact Linux system. When you install a distribution like Debian or RedHat, you end up installing a lot of programs you would never in your life use. They're just sitting there taking up (precious) disk space. It's not hard to get an LFS system installed under 100 MB. Does that still sound like a lot? A few of us have been working on creating a very small embedded LFS system. We installed a system that was just enough to run the Apache web server; total disk space usage was aproximately 8 MB. With further stripping, that can be brought down to 5 MB or less. Try that with a generic Debian or Redhat distribution.
Sounds pretty cool to me. If I were building a template system for work, I might go with this. But for my single system at home, I'm sticking with Debian.
No the proof fails because the construction of the 4th line shows that there are the same amount of positive 1's as negative, thus they cannot collapse as in line 8.
Sure, if the code was licensed under the GPL, he's not guilty of anything.
No, this is wrong. Only people who have been given the binaries have the right to the source code under the GPL. Putting your code under the GPL doesn't mean anyone can grab the code and binaries, it mean that whoever you distribute your code to has a righ to the binaries and has a right to redistribute. If you have a GPL'ed piece of code among a clique, you can't force the clique to give you the binaries or the code.
You've probably forgotten what it is like in a university lab. All the computers lined up beside each other. In some, labs they may be staggered, for more privacy, but the majority of terminals can be seen from the one you are looking on. It is probable that eventually students will learn to not look when the ad of the computer next to them changes (we have built-in mechanisms that alert us to movement in our peripheral vision, but these can be suppressed), but these ads will be seen. If they aren't, then the advertisers will pull the ads and we're back at square one. If they are, then you can bet that more advertising will be coming. They are using a foot-in-the-door.
For those of you who think they can't quantify the effectiveness of the ads, I propose this: they will hire students to give other students quick surveys on the usage and happiness of/with their products. Then they will run ads. Then they will conduct another survey.
But windows developers can compile their code against winelib, using the wine headers. Part of WINE is making the runtime system, another part is making a compatable library on linux that you can natively compile against.
A lot of people on here are say that there are no apps, and why would you buy one of these. I haven't been a big proponent of linux PDAs for home users. However, businessed have a needs that involve to rolling out PDAs to their employees, and in these cases, linux PDAs are the best fit. Since there is little licensing involved in the OS, they can typically beat a Palm or CE device by $50. When you have to roll out to a couple hundres people, that can make a difference, especially with todays budgets. Since the software typically has to be custom built anyways, the number of native applications doesn't matter. In fact, sometime less apps is better, since people are then using their PDAs for their work.
This is not unbreakable and would go against the reasons why you would be using one-time pad. If you do just use the pad to get a symmetric key, then the encrypted data can still be cracked, given enough data is put through it. "One time pad" data is used as above, one bit for one bit, and then that bit is never used again (thus one time). This gives the only unbreakable encryption system.
Yes, I am aware that one time pads are used by some governments, but that is an extremely expensive and inefficient system.
One time pads are used by more than "some governments." Once common used of them in the private sector is international banks. The advantage of one time pads is that you can ship a large message all at once, spending the money to secure it, and then use it to send many small messages in realtime. A guy gets on a plane with a briefcase full of random bits on tape (although I've heard they use CDs now) and can bring enough pad to encrypt the transactions for a month.
Another thing you have to realize is in order to have any secure communication, you must have an initial trusted event, even with public-private systems. Even using certification, you have to trust that you did get the real verisign public key, before you can trust that you got the real keys for other people so you can trust your communications with them.
Then you have to trust that someone hasn't cracked your public key. Or if you are using a purely symmetric system, you have to trust that someone hasn't analysed enough of your communications to guess your key. One time pad is the most secure system out there. You are right in that is has more administration, but sometimes you need that.
You'd as likely find a strict Muslim eating pork rinds in a liquor store as you would surfing a pr0n site, for steganographic purposes or otherwise.
This may be true, but is certainly doesn't apply to the terrorists involved considering
"on the eve of their evil act, two were consuming vodka and ogling strippers at a bar". These people were not the strict pious muslems that people think they are. They could easily hide stenographic content in porn sites. In fact, that would be better considering people don't believe they would look at such images.
Ghetto!=old school. Ghetto, in this context, means street-smart innovation with a lack of class. I'd say cutting up disks for more space is ghetto. Having a tool to do that might be pimp-daddy ghetto.
I'm sure the patient was informed of and elected to go through with the risks of this procedure. Some people, myself included, are willing to take some risks in order to advance science, especially medical science. I am also doubtful that they haven't already done animal experimentation with this device.
I'll even up the ante on that one then and say that eventually this will lower the cost of doctors as cheaper, but still quality surgeons from other countries can perform operations.
Of course, knowing the insurance industry, HMOs eventually won't cover your operation unless it is from a cheap country.
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People don't understand that we have civil liberties for a reason, and that reason is to protect us from our government. Imagine if Afganistan were to put this system in place. How hard would it be for them to add known protestors and possible defectors to the list of "known terrorists". Not imagine that we put all these checks in place and the U.S. It may not effect us now, but it will effect our future generations. We have to be very careful what we give away now to prevent bloodshed later.
Just thought I'd weigh into this holy war by mentioning WinVi. It's done by a German guy and is available in English, German, and Spanish. The design goals were to be identical to Notepad in a CUI sense, but still have vi functionality. It isn't a perfect vi implementation, but it has the majority of things you would need, and it's a great bridge to vi. If you've wanted to learn vi, but don't want to give up windows L&F, then it's a great choice. Oh and it loads as fast as notepad, and it's GPL'ed.
Exactly. Which is why it is, to quote the title of the thread, a "very dangerous precedent".
Deb may disappoint you then. I would say that Debian is a great newbie distribution for those who don't know what
In some ways, Debian makes it too easy to install stuff leading to more bloat, although it is pretty easy to remove them as well.
I think you want something more like Linux From Scratch. Now there's a lack of bloat (8 Megs for an apache install, and they might be able to get it to 5!).
Sounds pretty cool to me. If I were building a template system for work, I might go with this. But for my single system at home, I'm sticking with Debian.
No the proof fails because the construction of the 4th line shows that there are the same amount of positive 1's as negative, thus they cannot collapse as in line 8.
No, this is wrong. Only people who have been given the binaries have the right to the source code under the GPL. Putting your code under the GPL doesn't mean anyone can grab the code and binaries, it mean that whoever you distribute your code to has a righ to the binaries and has a right to redistribute. If you have a GPL'ed piece of code among a clique, you can't force the clique to give you the binaries or the code.
Not to be pedantic, but Dr. Pepper isn't a Coke (or Pepsi) product. It is an independant product of Dr. Pepper/Seven Up Inc.
You've probably forgotten what it is like in a university lab. All the computers lined up beside each other. In some, labs they may be staggered, for more privacy, but the majority of terminals can be seen from the one you are looking on. It is probable that eventually students will learn to not look when the ad of the computer next to them changes (we have built-in mechanisms that alert us to movement in our peripheral vision, but these can be suppressed), but these ads will be seen. If they aren't, then the advertisers will pull the ads and we're back at square one. If they are, then you can bet that more advertising will be coming. They are using a foot-in-the-door.
For those of you who think they can't quantify the effectiveness of the ads, I propose this: they will hire students to give other students quick surveys on the usage and happiness of/with their products. Then they will run ads. Then they will conduct another survey.
But windows developers can compile their code against winelib, using the wine headers. Part of WINE is making the runtime system, another part is making a compatable library on linux that you can natively compile against.
That spending that much time figuring out WINE isn't worth it?
A lot of people on here are say that there are no apps, and why would you buy one of these. I haven't been a big proponent of linux PDAs for home users. However, businessed have a needs that involve to rolling out PDAs to their employees, and in these cases, linux PDAs are the best fit. Since there is little licensing involved in the OS, they can typically beat a Palm or CE device by $50. When you have to roll out to a couple hundres people, that can make a difference, especially with todays budgets. Since the software typically has to be custom built anyways, the number of native applications doesn't matter. In fact, sometime less apps is better, since people are then using their PDAs for their work.
But what if they all have different, but still objectionable licenses?
This is not unbreakable and would go against the reasons why you would be using one-time pad. If you do just use the pad to get a symmetric key, then the encrypted data can still be cracked, given enough data is put through it. "One time pad" data is used as above, one bit for one bit, and then that bit is never used again (thus one time). This gives the only unbreakable encryption system.
One time pads are used by more than "some governments." Once common used of them in the private sector is international banks. The advantage of one time pads is that you can ship a large message all at once, spending the money to secure it, and then use it to send many small messages in realtime. A guy gets on a plane with a briefcase full of random bits on tape (although I've heard they use CDs now) and can bring enough pad to encrypt the transactions for a month.
Another thing you have to realize is in order to have any secure communication, you must have an initial trusted event, even with public-private systems. Even using certification, you have to trust that you did get the real verisign public key, before you can trust that you got the real keys for other people so you can trust your communications with them.
Then you have to trust that someone hasn't cracked your public key. Or if you are using a purely symmetric system, you have to trust that someone hasn't analysed enough of your communications to guess your key. One time pad is the most secure system out there. You are right in that is has more administration, but sometimes you need that.
I preferred it with the warning, the delay in loading.
This may be true, but is certainly doesn't apply to the terrorists involved considering
"on the eve of their evil act, two were consuming vodka and ogling strippers at a bar". These people were not the strict pious muslems that people think they are. They could easily hide stenographic content in porn sites. In fact, that would be better considering people don't believe they would look at such images.
Not to be pedantic, but that gives you arbitrary mana, not infinite
Ghetto!=old school. Ghetto, in this context, means street-smart innovation with a lack of class. I'd say cutting up disks for more space is ghetto. Having a tool to do that might be pimp-daddy ghetto.
I'm sure the patient was informed of and elected to go through with the risks of this procedure. Some people, myself included, are willing to take some risks in order to advance science, especially medical science. I am also doubtful that they haven't already done animal experimentation with this device.
Of course, knowing the insurance industry, HMOs eventually won't cover your operation unless it is from a cheap country.
No, certification doesn't require encryption either.
Because eventually we will move from 32 bit processors to 64 bit processors.
And then get arrested for distributing copyrighted matierial.
If you never heard from the client again, it's a good indications it didn't work.