Or rather they would get millions of calls with people saying, my new democratic official won't overrun (insert common marginal political/religious sect here)...
Face it, Communism is the default. Not because it is forced on us (well partly becasue it WAS forced on us) but because it is the standard for governments.
I really don't see the difference between Linspire and Ubuntu.
They both drop everything that is good about Debian, and add a heaping pile of the things that suck about 'user friendly' Linux.
Linspire, like so many before it, is a blip on the radar of Linux distros and in a year or so will be relegated to/dev/null. Ubuntu will follow the same path, burning out when people realize that if you want something as dumbed down as Windows, you should probably be using Windows.
>the system is more secure and resists exploits that try to gain root >access.
You're fooling yourself. With Ubuntu, 'stupid user tricks' like in the Windows world could now make it possible for external forces to have root via sudo.
This is not the 'sudo' most Linux users would encounter - a crafted set of commands that have been researched then allowed access to - it is an abomination - sudo = root.
>Vonage and other VoIP providers are getting shafted by Sasktel a major Canadian > telco. Sasktel is a crown corporation, and own the lines in Saskatchewan.
Of course. They put them in the ground, they own them.
> It was only recently that other providers were permitted to sell long distance there
No. It was only recently that SaskTel had to sell them at cost to other providers.
> and Saskatchewanians can't get a VoIP phone number with their local area code > because Sasktel charges Vonage too much for a block of numbers.
Boo fuckin' hoo. One (306) area code for an entire province, and SaskTel has the audacity to attempt to charge the same rate as a city instead of the rural rate. What a bunch of bastards
> They claim they are selling them at a price that's in line with other regions, but how >come in every other Canadian province you can get a local area code for your > VoIP phone?
See above. And they can't even afford to do it themselves. http://www.webcall.ca/ is SaskTels residential VoIP service (Navigata is a wholly owned subsidiary or SaskTel), and they don't offer 306.
What do you think the odds are that your kids know what they're singing? If your answer isn't 'slim to fucking none', look up the lyrics to any song you think you know, then try answering again.
And the last time I checked, each one of those (except Mitel - they've flip-flopped a couple of times) started with Windows, and is shifting to Linux...
I really want to get a lot of publicity for being able to misunderstand something, then hire some folks, buy some hardware, install some software, spend months generating data all based on my initially incorrect assumption of what I think I heard someone once say about something that I know if I really tried to unblock it, I would know right away that I was full of shit and just pandering to the marketing department, since they have all the money, and my weak ass strawman argument wouldn't hold up to even a casual look, but who cares - it makes a great bullet point.
No seriously. I want it. And a end to run on sentences....
>> Who the hell 'hard codes' a user id and password into web based >applications? >Even that is probably more common than you want to think, but the article is >not talking mainly about "web applications"
"When, for example, a user accesses a web based application through a Portal, behind the scenes an awful lot of activity takes place to present the information to the user."
Even though the top of the article prattles on about his alarm system, direct reference is made to web applications.
The rest of your comment is just generalization of random bits of meandering stuff.
I must have slept through the part where web apps where around in 1972 also:)
Damn, this means I missed the part where the web, and all reference to it, was removed in 1976 in order to appease the new rulers of Earth - who then removed all reference to themselves in 1981.
"Now since it is clearly impractical to rewrite applications on a regular basis, just to change the user ID and password, the result is that the user ID and password never changes."
What decade was this article written in? Who the hell 'hard codes' a user id and password into web based applications?
I think you meant 'the people I know in Canada', not all of Canada, since 'the people I know in Canada' use ICQ, AIM and a tonne of interconnected Jabber servers.
Maybe its just me, but does anyone see this more in the light of 'In order to create confusion between Freespire and Linspire, we are releasing our own Freespire on the Linspire site, so the sheeple will believe we created it, and won't find out we suck'?
The majority of people are going to be getting their VOIP service from someone sitting in their basement, or from Skype or somesuch. Their going to get it from their ISP, which will provide a security layer of some sort - separate VPN, encrypted trunks, etc.
Anyone who believes that this is some 'golden age' of free communications is on crack. And cheap crack at that.
...that in comparison to Google Maps, Microsoft VIrtual Earth...er... sucks? The size is overblown, the search is hit and miss, the maps old, panning breaks at high zoom and takes longer then Google Maps to do anything.
I know this is/. and no one RTFA, but the 'executive summary' at the top doesn't match the content of the article.
It summarizes the article with "despite the growing maturity of Linux as a desktop operating system, it is little wonder that the vast majority of businesses are sticking with Windows." and then provides two examples.
The first states "Novell had made savings of $900,000 on Microsoft Windows and Office licences as well as maintenance costs from the move." and "A voluntary migration also saw the company beat its goal to get 50% of users onto Linux by the end of October 2004." and the second says ""We came to the conclusion that our requirements are really only met by a commercial distributor" - that commercial distribution being RedHat.
How the fuck did any of this get spun as 'vast majority of businesses are sticking with Windows'?
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LOL! Man I wish I had mod points today....
WINE, Cedega and Picassa run fine on Mandriva 2006.0 x86-64
Or rather they would get millions of calls with people saying, my new democratic official won't overrun (insert common marginal political/religious sect here)...
Face it, Communism is the default. Not because it is forced on us (well partly becasue it WAS forced on us) but because it is the standard for governments.
I really don't see the difference between Linspire and Ubuntu.
/dev/null. Ubuntu will follow the same path, burning out when people realize that if you want something as dumbed down as Windows, you should probably be using Windows.
They both drop everything that is good about Debian, and add a heaping pile of the things that suck about 'user friendly' Linux.
Linspire, like so many before it, is a blip on the radar of Linux distros and in a year or so will be relegated to
Mandriva was never like this.
>the system is more secure and resists exploits that try to gain root
>access.
You're fooling yourself. With Ubuntu, 'stupid user tricks' like in the Windows world could now make it possible for external forces to have root via sudo.
This is not the 'sudo' most Linux users would encounter - a crafted set of commands that have been researched then allowed access to - it is an abomination - sudo = root.
I concede the the last point to you :)
>Vonage and other VoIP providers are getting shafted by Sasktel a major Canadian
> telco. Sasktel is a crown corporation, and own the lines in Saskatchewan.
Of course. They put them in the ground, they own them.
> It was only recently that other providers were permitted to sell long distance there
No. It was only recently that SaskTel had to sell them at cost to other providers.
> and Saskatchewanians can't get a VoIP phone number with their local area code
> because Sasktel charges Vonage too much for a block of numbers.
Boo fuckin' hoo. One (306) area code for an entire province, and SaskTel has the audacity to attempt to charge the same rate as a city instead of the rural rate. What a bunch of bastards
> They claim they are selling them at a price that's in line with other regions, but how
>come in every other Canadian province you can get a local area code for your
> VoIP phone?
See above. And they can't even afford to do it themselves. http://www.webcall.ca/ is SaskTels residential VoIP service (Navigata is a wholly owned subsidiary or SaskTel), and they don't offer 306.
Let the government wait a week for someone to find a backdoor, just like the rest of us....
Maybe I'm just too much of a geek, but 'Underhill' is always a pseudonym to me.
I signed up anyway thought...
What do you think the odds are that your kids know what they're singing? If your answer isn't 'slim to fucking none', look up the lyrics to any song you think you know, then try answering again.
And the last time I checked, each one of those (except Mitel - they've flip-flopped a couple of times) started with Windows, and is shifting to Linux...
I really want to get a lot of publicity for being able to misunderstand something, then hire some folks, buy some hardware, install some software, spend months generating data all based on my initially incorrect assumption of what I think I heard someone once say about something that I know if I really tried to unblock it, I would know right away that I was full of shit and just pandering to the marketing department, since they have all the money, and my weak ass strawman argument wouldn't hold up to even a casual look, but who cares - it makes a great bullet point.
No seriously. I want it. And a end to run on sentences....
>> Who the hell 'hard codes' a user id and password into web based
>applications?
>Even that is probably more common than you want to think, but the article is
>not talking mainly about "web applications"
"When, for example, a user accesses a web based application through a Portal, behind the scenes an awful lot of activity takes place to present the information to the user."
Even though the top of the article prattles on about his alarm system, direct reference is made to web applications.
The rest of your comment is just generalization of random bits of meandering stuff.
I must have slept through the part where web apps where around in 1972 also :)
Damn, this means I missed the part where the web, and all reference to it, was removed in 1976 in order to appease the new rulers of Earth - who then removed all reference to themselves in 1981.
"Now since it is clearly impractical to rewrite applications on a regular basis, just to change the user ID and password, the result is that the user ID and password never changes."
What decade was this article written in? Who the hell 'hard codes' a user id and password into web based applications?
>> ...I have a bunch of VAXen in my basement...
>%DCL-W-INCREDULITY
>I hate to break it to you, but you've been dead for some time now.
This is, quite possibly, the funniest thing I have read in months.
Good job.
I think you meant 'the people I know in Canada', not all of Canada, since 'the people I know in Canada' use ICQ, AIM and a tonne of interconnected Jabber servers.
Maybe its just me, but does anyone see this more in the light of 'In order to create confusion between Freespire and Linspire, we are releasing our own Freespire on the Linspire site, so the sheeple will believe we created it, and won't find out we suck'?
....most 'hospitality networks' can be crack in 6 seconds. Anything less, and you suck. Seriously.
The majority of people are going to be getting their VOIP service from someone sitting in their basement, or from Skype or somesuch. Their going to get it from their ISP, which will provide a security layer of some sort - separate VPN, encrypted trunks, etc.
Anyone who believes that this is some 'golden age' of free communications is on crack. And cheap crack at that.
How is this flamebait, and the Ubuntu whores are being moderated Insightful?
...that in comparison to Google Maps, Microsoft VIrtual Earth ...er... sucks? The size is overblown, the search is hit and miss, the maps old, panning breaks at high zoom and takes longer then Google Maps to do anything.
Just wonder....
It summarizes the article with "despite the growing maturity of Linux as a desktop operating system, it is little wonder that the vast majority of businesses are sticking with Windows." and then provides two examples.
The first states "Novell had made savings of $900,000 on Microsoft Windows and Office licences as well as maintenance costs from the move." and "A voluntary migration also saw the company beat its goal to get 50% of users onto Linux by the end of October 2004." and the second says ""We came to the conclusion that our requirements are really only met by a commercial distributor" - that commercial distribution being RedHat.
How the fuck did any of this get spun as 'vast majority of businesses are sticking with Windows'?
And everyone who reads it will understand that you are of below average intelligence, and will treat you accordingly.
If you communicate like a moron, you are treated like a moron.
If you don't like that, don't reply, since I'm acting like an arrogant, elitist bastard, but I want you to treat me like a friendly, helpful mentor.