Want to have a good laugh, do a Slashdot search for Ubuntu The original pitch was that it would be a Linux distribution that would be the easiest to use, best supported, user friendly distro on the planet. Most people here recognized that it was, b.s. from the getgo, since the technical challenges of doing such a distribution were much greater than Ubuntu's developer resources. Plus, the Ubuntu CEO Mark Shuttleworth was more of a "pitch guy" than someone who actually knows how to deliver a robust software product.
Still haven't proven me wrong. Wake me up when the disappearance of this distro would have even close to the same impact as the disappearance of RedHat.
And don't forget to tag all Ubuntu articles as 'ubuntusucks', it's fun!
Because there was no true war, no meeting of equals for the resolution of the conflict. The 'losers' where killed at anytime (one way or another) since they where considered 'subhuman' or 'savages'. Being a different colour helped here, once again.
But, being Canadian, I'm with you on the 'you lost' bit. Call it a wash, make everyone a tax-paying citizen.
>"Common moral space in that they are both against the law >Obeying the law has absolutely zero to do with morals - in fact, obeying an unjust law could easily be argued to be amoral. >He did not make a point that they are both against the law, he implied that morality means obeying the law. I don't have >an inability to read between the lines, im calling a poster out for a bullshit statement.
Well, then it's your turn to get called out. Stating that "obeying the law has absolutely zero to do with morals" is bullshit. The only way your argument appears to be correct is by bringing in the strawman argument of "obeying an unjust law".
If obeying and unjust law is amoral, then what is obeying a just law? What about a law that makes sense to you, but you don't like - what drives a person to obey that one? You don't get to pick and choose every single law based on your own personal whim and then get to call it your "moral compass".
>>Except that if the team wants to continue to use the GPL, the FSF doesn't allow modification of the wording of the GPL >>license...
> How did Linus get away with modifying the GPL? The GPL states that:
Because that is not the license. It is a paragraph that tells you which license you can use. It is not a part of the GPL. Many people use the same paragraph, but it is not a part of the license.
Your absolutely right, given that the most progressive medium of the day is print, and that will never change. It's also the only thing in the world that people could possibly be using a graphics program for, so we'll just end all discussion with your insightful peek into the mystical world of newspapers. There, that should wrap up this discussion for a decade or so. Would the mods please mark everything else as 'redundant'.
Now, where did I put my chisel so I can bang out my signature block......
You're right. My knee-jerk bitterness got in my way.
I just get the feeling that eventually the Ubuntu house of cards will fall down - ala Linspire - and it will be just another mark against Linux. Sometimes that feeling clouds my judgment.
Ah yes, because if Ubuntu has a DVD download, only Ubuntu has a DVD download. This is number two on my list of annoying this Ubuntu users do. The other is the happy land of the average Ubuntu user - where replacing the word 'Linux' with 'Ubuntu' in any post gets you a quicker path to OT III.
I agree with you completely. It's like Ubuntu has a paid marketing department who are overhyping every half assed feature and decision that Ubuntu makes - and digg,/. and the rest are falling over themselves to post their stories, either because they are paid off, or they will accept any claptrap that comes their way.... hmm.....
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In this case, making parts of airports and border checkpoints not part of the USA is just plain underhanded & deplorable.
If it is not a part of the USA, what jurisdiction do they have?
I say 'insightful' not 'flamebait'....
Want to have a good laugh, do a Slashdot search for Ubuntu The original pitch was that it would be a Linux distribution that would be the easiest to use, best supported, user friendly distro on the planet. Most people here recognized that it was, b.s. from the getgo, since the technical challenges of doing such a distribution were much greater than Ubuntu's developer resources. Plus, the Ubuntu CEO Mark Shuttleworth was more of a "pitch guy" than someone who actually knows how to deliver a robust software product.
What, like Mandriva?
Use nspluginwrapper. Flash 9 works flawlessly here on Mandriva 2008.0 x86-64.
If you're going to be going to KDE, go with Mandriva or PCLinuxOS.
But then it's probably too late, you've already drank the Ubuntu kool-aid.
Exactly.
If they cared about code quality, they would test it before they committed it.
Still haven't proven me wrong. Wake me up when the disappearance of this distro would have even close to the same impact as the disappearance of RedHat.
And don't forget to tag all Ubuntu articles as 'ubuntusucks', it's fun!
Because there was no true war, no meeting of equals for the resolution of the conflict. The 'losers' where killed at anytime (one way or another) since they where considered 'subhuman' or 'savages'. Being a different colour helped here, once again.
But, being Canadian, I'm with you on the 'you lost' bit. Call it a wash, make everyone a tax-paying citizen.
But that still doesn't diminish what happened.
Where are my mod points when I need them.....
I didn't know we had a queen. I thought we were an autonomous collective.
>I'm not going to sit here and nitpick back and forth with you, as this discussion has become boring.
The last desperate attempt of a slashdotter to appear superior instead of admitting to error.
>"Common moral space in that they are both against the law
>Obeying the law has absolutely zero to do with morals - in fact, obeying an unjust law could easily be argued to be amoral.
>He did not make a point that they are both against the law, he implied that morality means obeying the law. I don't have
>an inability to read between the lines, im calling a poster out for a bullshit statement.
Well, then it's your turn to get called out. Stating that "obeying the law has absolutely zero to do with morals" is bullshit. The only way your argument appears to be correct is by bringing in the strawman argument of "obeying an unjust law".
If obeying and unjust law is amoral, then what is obeying a just law? What about a law that makes sense to you, but you don't like - what drives a person to obey that one? You don't get to pick and choose every single law based on your own personal whim and then get to call it your "moral compass".
So Mandriva can do it, but Ubuntu can't, and now all the arguments are 'why Linux can't do it'?
Since when did Ubuntu become the only Linux? Does everyone fall for marketing that easily?
>>Except that if the team wants to continue to use the GPL, the FSF doesn't allow modification of the wording of the GPL
>>license...
> How did Linus get away with modifying the GPL? The GPL states that:
Because that is not the license. It is a paragraph that tells you which license you can use. It is not a part of the GPL. Many people use the same paragraph, but it is not a part of the license.
There's no reason to pick your favorite Helen.
Have somebody record what you wrote and play it back to you in a week.
If you don't hear 'blah blah blah I'm so great blah blah blah' you're not technical, you're just a manager.
Your absolutely right, given that the most progressive medium of the day is print, and that will never change. It's also the only thing in the world that people could possibly be using a graphics program for, so we'll just end all discussion with your insightful peek into the mystical world of newspapers. There, that should wrap up this discussion for a decade or so. Would the mods please mark everything else as 'redundant'.
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Now, where did I put my chisel so I can bang out my signature block....
Kinda. I have dentures, so I soaked them.
Today, no. I posted when the article was listed for subscribers, which was yesterday. Suck it.
I concur.
You're right. My knee-jerk bitterness got in my way.
I just get the feeling that eventually the Ubuntu house of cards will fall down - ala Linspire - and it will be just another mark against Linux. Sometimes that feeling clouds my judgment.
Ah yes, because if Ubuntu has a DVD download, only Ubuntu has a DVD download. This is number two on my list of annoying this Ubuntu users do. The other is the happy land of the average Ubuntu user - where replacing the word 'Linux' with 'Ubuntu' in any post gets you a quicker path to OT III.
I agree with you completely. It's like Ubuntu has a paid marketing department who are overhyping every half assed feature and decision that Ubuntu makes - and digg, /. and the rest are falling over themselves to post their stories, either because they are paid off, or they will accept any claptrap that comes their way.... hmm.....
You understand wrong. MySQL is GPL and has been since ~1995.