Hasn't somewhat of a pseudo-cure been around for awhile now (at least for the HIV)? Mr. Magic Johnson is HIV-free after millions of dollars in treatment. Or was it magic?
Responding, admittedly off-topic, to the ID lubricating hands person who made the parent comment, I must submit that the increase in my sweaty palms leads me to believe that I'm adapting. My children, or grandchildren will likely secrete hand lotion on demand.
The one above, and one other should be modded flamebait, I totally agree. But there were a couple that I thought were very reasonable. Apparently I'm unreasonable. I believe it was my first post that I feel was completely reasonable. It just seems that any post that says "well, perhaps ID has some merit or at least something worth looking at" gets automatically modded as troll or flamebait. I was just getting pissed off that no matter what I said that was either neutral or pro-ID was trolled or flamebaited. I was just looking for interesting conversation and apparently this wasn't the forum.
Clearly we're not able to have real dialogue on this topic. Look at the "insightful" comment that I replied to. Smarmy as fuck. Also, fuck whoever downmodded me for replying in a similar manner.
It is absolutely ridiculous that we can't have an intelligent conversation about this fascinating topic. The only comment of mine that should be downmodded is this one. Sure, don't mod me insightful, as if you could possibly see any conflicting data, but don't give me troll or flamebait. I just lost a lot of respect for/. users today. Not that anyone will care. Downmod away.
Shit, you'd think I was complimenting Microsoft on their wonderful products. Shouldn't we be looking for truth, no matter where it may be?
Frankly there's not enough data to "prove" either side. I'm not saying either side is stupid either. Are you even reading my comments? With no faith or religious included, it would be hard to have a real opinion because of all the holes in both theories (notwithstanding the lashing some guy got for his use of the word "theory."
Oh and can I just say it's bullshit that I'm getting modded down for having an unpopular opinion? That's what I'm giving. My opinion. Time will surely tell if it's wrong or not. So in the meantime, fuck all who've downmodded.
You also seem to forget that Darwin wrote his masterpiece without any biochemical or DNA data. We all know that this goes quite a bit deeper than surface observations... and I didn't say that evolution doesn't occur. Pardon me for using the term "Evolution" as an umbrella category.
I cannot fucking believe that you didn't get flamebait modded for that./. is obviously a open forum for reasonable discussion on this topic. Clearly we all get a bit heated on this topic and I love a great evolution/creation argument, but seriously, your comment IMHO served no purpose in fostering a real discussion. Oh and sure, go look up a completely slanted document for proof of what ID really is.
I believe in creation (so clearly I'll now be disregarded by you) but also believe in evolution. There are things unexplainable by both sides. You're an idiot to believe that the earth is only 6000 years old, but you're also an idiot to believe in mathematical odds simply because they're technically possible. Irreducible complexity is powerful, but so's the fossil record.
Anyway, to this whole discussion: if we're going to have a discussion, let's do so. If we're going to be quippy and shitty to each other in an effort to "prove" our belief, well, perhaps we should all just go fuck off.
I know, I know, my karma will be destroyed by both sides here...
ID is bad science. Evolution is bad science. For the most part, both sides take an assumed hypothesis and attempt to fit data to support it. Generally nobody says, what do the data say here? They say, "ID doesn't exist therefore what does the data say in an Evolution framework," or "Evolution is a farce, therefore we must fit this into a notion of a creator." Perhaps either side is too afraid to approach research in a way that leaves data open to actual interpretation...
Neither will be fully proven and it takes faith to believe either one.
And, quite frankly, I'm waiting for an Evolutionist to come up with a compelling retort to the concept of Irreducible Complexity.
How the hell is this flamebait? I was making a serious point. There have been documented incidents of OPEC buying up patents on more fuel efficient engines. (Sorry, can't find one to post but I've read it before.) Trust me!;)
It's not going to be Ford or Honda or anyone who scoops up this patent. It will be OPEC. They're the only ones who stand to gain anything by this technology being suppressed.
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... a teeny tiny beowulf cluster of these!
Hasn't somewhat of a pseudo-cure been around for awhile now (at least for the HIV)? Mr. Magic Johnson is HIV-free after millions of dollars in treatment. Or was it magic?
Responding, admittedly off-topic, to the ID lubricating hands person who made the parent comment, I must submit that the increase in my sweaty palms leads me to believe that I'm adapting. My children, or grandchildren will likely secrete hand lotion on demand.
Something makes me think that I've been given the same drug. Or was that my science major in college? Shit.
Will it tell me how much longer everything takes to load/shutdown using Aero?
The one above, and one other should be modded flamebait, I totally agree. But there were a couple that I thought were very reasonable. Apparently I'm unreasonable. I believe it was my first post that I feel was completely reasonable. It just seems that any post that says "well, perhaps ID has some merit or at least something worth looking at" gets automatically modded as troll or flamebait. I was just getting pissed off that no matter what I said that was either neutral or pro-ID was trolled or flamebaited. I was just looking for interesting conversation and apparently this wasn't the forum.
It is absolutely ridiculous that we can't have an intelligent conversation about this fascinating topic. The only comment of mine that should be downmodded is this one. Sure, don't mod me insightful, as if you could possibly see any conflicting data, but don't give me troll or flamebait. I just lost a lot of respect for /. users today. Not that anyone will care. Downmod away.
Shit, you'd think I was complimenting Microsoft on their wonderful products. Shouldn't we be looking for truth, no matter where it may be?
Oh and can I just say it's bullshit that I'm getting modded down for having an unpopular opinion? That's what I'm giving. My opinion. Time will surely tell if it's wrong or not. So in the meantime, fuck all who've downmodded.
You also seem to forget that Darwin wrote his masterpiece without any biochemical or DNA data. We all know that this goes quite a bit deeper than surface observations... and I didn't say that evolution doesn't occur. Pardon me for using the term "Evolution" as an umbrella category.
I believe in creation (so clearly I'll now be disregarded by you) but also believe in evolution. There are things unexplainable by both sides. You're an idiot to believe that the earth is only 6000 years old, but you're also an idiot to believe in mathematical odds simply because they're technically possible. Irreducible complexity is powerful, but so's the fossil record.
Anyway, to this whole discussion: if we're going to have a discussion, let's do so. If we're going to be quippy and shitty to each other in an effort to "prove" our belief, well, perhaps we should all just go fuck off.
I know, I know, my karma will be destroyed by both sides here...
Neither will be fully proven and it takes faith to believe either one.
And, quite frankly, I'm waiting for an Evolutionist to come up with a compelling retort to the concept of Irreducible Complexity.
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... but really? No copy/paste? They still have to work that one out?
You actually used Clippy? Man, what a friggin' dork! ;)
Remember that the Titanic (with nekkid Kate Winslet) was sink proof...
Ok that was one of the funniest comments I've seen on /. ever.
The Moon Rulez #1!
How the hell is this flamebait? I was making a serious point. There have been documented incidents of OPEC buying up patents on more fuel efficient engines. (Sorry, can't find one to post but I've read it before.) Trust me! ;)
Dammit, I totally thought I would be the only person to think of that one.
It's not going to be Ford or Honda or anyone who scoops up this patent. It will be OPEC. They're the only ones who stand to gain anything by this technology being suppressed.
I, for one, welcome our new 16-level 'action comedy' with a storyline penned by the long-running TV show's long-running writers overlords.
Doesn't work either. Oh well, worth a shot.
... a story where one can legitimately make a "I for one welcome our X overlords" joke?
Still can't catch me coppahs!
Ha! You'll never catch me coppahs!
I completely agree but this was meant more as a joke, taking a Mooninite quote from the ATHF show...