Ignoring than the fact that it is slower to load the biggest factor is how the document will look with MS office. Also ingoring the fact that PDFcreator exists too.
Let's say you are preparing a project or bidding on a contract with big enough money tied to it. Do you send it with your OO and hope it looks correct to the reader (you know they use MSO) or do you shell out $425 bucks to do it with MSO? A badly presented document could cost you that project. Bill knows this and so do you.
It's a tough decision especially if there is enough money involved. Even if you are an MS hater or a true open software supporter, $425 is peanuts on a $100,000 contract. If someone is going to reply that they would not wave from their view over money, then I do not believe it or they are filthy rich.
Personally, for the amount of documents I put out, an old version of a word processor does the trick but know of people that had to choose. They chose safe. ($=CAD)
From what I read, MS sabotaged OS/2 by writing inefficient code (on purpose). The code from England was good. Otherwise we would have had a multi-tasking OS way before 1995 (or should I say 1999 for 2K). No proof of this. Could be just folklore but I was there then and it makes sense.
Virtual machines. OS/2 had it. Well sort of. More like their VM/370 or MVS. Multiple independent address spaces, managed by a "hypervisor", that could or nor see each other. On an 80486 PC and not a mainframe.
How do you block them all. Almost every ISP has a webmail client. Ok so it might be very simple to zoom in on all that start with webmail.xxx.com or the word mail in it. What about other languages? In french it would be courriel.xxx.ca.
How about a mom and pop webmail called GrannyMayApplePie.com (does not exist). or myrealbox.com
People will just find others if you block the BIG 4
As a sort of related question does anyone know the details of that 100 Million dollars "loan" Microsoft made to Apple a long while to prop them up so they (M) would not be a monopoly. Does it still exist and does it come into play if Apple gets too big?
I don't think they will beat Microsoft (on the desktop) if the desktop will keep on existing as it now is. Linux? maybe.
So let me get this straight. You want people to follow the rules by not going to MySpace et al but have no problem NOT following society's rule by destroying or illegally entering a computer system account that belongs to someone else. Hmmm. Have you applied for a cop's job?
He's not alone. You would be amazed at how many people do that or the equivalent even when they know the whole domain name. Like typing www.thisdomain.ca into the search engine instead of on the address line. Even after you try to explain it.
Some people even ask if I have Google on my machine.
Read somewhere that one of the big search queries on Yahoo! was google. And vice-versa. Guess ditto for MSN.
This is on topic and I am not making a case against the command prompt whether on *NIX or *dows. I use it always even on Windows which is my main system(s).
I've been on a command line since...(well I won't give my age away) and that is the biggest pain in the asp\hs.
The case sensitivity is annoying and that was in relation to my statement about when we will start talking to our computers. So they want to make Linux better? Start with this now while it is not a requirement and be ready for that day because on that day it WILL have to go. That was my one point using the example of the 64 ways of spelling "letter". Someone said shout it. To him: How do you shout "leTTer" and "LetteR" differently so the computer know which is which? Others made different points. All valid.
The topic was "How Do You Advocate Linux in 5 Minutes?" and someone said understand your total product in reference to iPod and Windows. They did. Guess that's not direct to you.
Closing note: I said "us*less":) OK how was the spelling commment useful?
"Here's a start: Linux needs to tuck the command line under the carpet"... and loose that case sensitivity. It is the single most annoyance on the command line. What are we going to do when we start talking to computers. And it's gonna happen. How do you tell the difference between "Letter to mom" and "LETTER to Mom" when you speak it.
Yes it is dumb and beside it is just a great big communist plot komrade. They are all made in China and are all rigged to slowly radiate us.
"In 20 or so years people will dying in flocks." he said with tongue in cheek.
Seriously, has there been any studies done on these? We've seen this in the past where something was the greatest thing since sliced bread only to find out it was not. That wonder drug (when I was a kid) women took during pregnancy comes to mind and little babies with just hands and no arms or arms and no hands.
"Hell, sometimes they don't even wait for you to register it. I've gone to do domain checks at GoDaddy for a domain I might want to use, decide to mull it over, and come back the next week to buy it only to find that some company got it and parked an ad site there"
Yes I have seen this too. The name I tried got registered somewhere in Africa then a week later was register in the USA (subsidiary) but to my luck was dropped about 1 month later as I was about to register another. And yes it was for sale for about $18 while it was registered.
Is the registrar doing it or connected? Dunno. Tried a few dummy domains later to test out the theory and they did not end up registered. Fluke?
Why did it get dropped 1 month later. Maybe the scammer used a phony credit card or did not pay the bill?
But the bottom line is it drives in $20 a year. Let's see. How many cases of beer is that.
If you had the chance to do it, what would you do?
"We clearly need to work harder on our search engines." Agreed on that
Maybe so but the point is still valid. G can censor if it wants to kill your site but they still wear the white hat.
Google is the next Microsoft and will and will probaly become to be hated like M by the yet unborn or just newly born crowd because it will represent the establishment like M does today. IBM was the previous "Big Blue" and they were just as hated in the 80's and 90's when Bill's star was rising and he could do no wrong. Yes, just like Google is idolized today.
G has no competition (a monopoly, sort of) so is not threathened. When a treat will arrive, and it will, those business fangs will come out like Bill's.
When you live in the more nothern parts of the world (or southern) it is cold in your winter. It seems now that we spend 4 to 5 months in the NEGATIVE degrees range even though it is warmer then in the 60's, as we all know too well. Mentally you spend all winter in the negative.
In the 60's and 70's (or even today) you might spend 2 weeks in January and maybe February in this negative mentally with Fahrenheit.
As a humanoid carbon unit, somehow 20 degrees Farenheit seems not as negative as -6.66666667 degrees Celsius.
There is supposed to be this mental thing, in the real north, about living in the dark for almost 6 months. The same can be said about negative temperatures.
I can just image more north than me. Brrr! 46.04380, -73.11511
You adjust to Celcius of course because your body can relate to outside but...
On the positive side, when you drive 60mph you are now doing about 100. YES!
Why should they take a side. Just because I don't use it does not mean no one does.
It's the biggest guy out there (by far). Google would be dumb to ignore or poo poo on IE.
I think M is making a move to eventually "own" Linux too. It would be just de facto but they could have a leash on enough big Linux distributors. Once they (L) get use to the money steam M would be in a position to apply pressure. If it is done for the benefit of the world some good might come of it but...... Well you know!
Remember who loaned Apple 100 million with no strings attached.
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Ignoring than the fact that it is slower to load the biggest factor is how the document will look with MS office. Also ingoring the fact that PDFcreator exists too.
Let's say you are preparing a project or bidding on a contract with big enough money tied to it. Do you send it with your OO and hope it looks correct to the reader (you know they use MSO) or do you shell out $425 bucks to do it with MSO? A badly presented document could cost you that project. Bill knows this and so do you.
It's a tough decision especially if there is enough money involved. Even if you are an MS hater or a true open software supporter, $425 is peanuts on a $100,000 contract. If someone is going to reply that they would not wave from their view over money, then I do not believe it or they are filthy rich.
Personally, for the amount of documents I put out, an old version of a word processor does the trick but know of people that had to choose. They chose safe. ($=CAD)
From what I read, MS sabotaged OS/2 by writing inefficient code (on purpose). The code from England was good. Otherwise we would have had a multi-tasking OS way before 1995 (or should I say 1999 for 2K). No proof of this. Could be just folklore but I was there then and it makes sense.
Virtual machines. OS/2 had it. Well sort of. More like their VM/370 or MVS. Multiple independent address spaces, managed by a "hypervisor", that could or nor see each other. On an 80486 PC and not a mainframe.
And there are about 20 or more different kinds or flavours
How do you block them all. Almost every ISP has a webmail client. Ok so it might be very simple to zoom in on all that start with webmail.xxx.com or the word mail in it. What about other languages? In french it would be courriel.xxx.ca.
How about a mom and pop webmail called GrannyMayApplePie.com (does not exist). or myrealbox.com
People will just find others if you block the BIG 4
Innocent until proven guilty! So much for that belief. Eh?
As a sort of related question does anyone know the details of that 100 Million dollars "loan" Microsoft made to Apple a long while to prop them up so they (M) would not be a monopoly. Does it still exist and does it come into play if Apple gets too big?
I don't think they will beat Microsoft (on the desktop) if the desktop will keep on existing as it now is. Linux? maybe.
"reek havoc on their account!"
Sounds illegal to me.
So let me get this straight. You want people to follow the rules by not going to MySpace et al but have no problem NOT following society's rule by destroying or illegally entering a computer system account that belongs to someone else. Hmmm. Have you applied for a cop's job?
He's not alone. You would be amazed at how many people do that or the equivalent even when they know the whole domain name. Like typing www.thisdomain.ca into the search engine instead of on the address line. Even after you try to explain it.
Some people even ask if I have Google on my machine.
Read somewhere that one of the big search queries on Yahoo! was google. And vice-versa. Guess ditto for MSN.
This is on topic and I am not making a case against the command prompt whether on *NIX or *dows. I use it always even on Windows which is my main system(s).
...(well I won't give my age away) and that is the biggest pain in the asp\hs.
:) OK how was the spelling commment useful?
I've been on a command line since
The case sensitivity is annoying and that was in relation to my statement about when we will start talking to our computers. So they want to make Linux better? Start with this now while it is not a requirement and be ready for that day because on that day it WILL have to go. That was my one point using the example of the 64 ways of spelling "letter". Someone said shout it. To him: How do you shout "leTTer" and "LetteR" differently so the computer know which is which? Others made different points. All valid.
The topic was "How Do You Advocate Linux in 5 Minutes?" and someone said understand your total product in reference to iPod and Windows. They did. Guess that's not direct to you.
Closing note: I said "us*less"
What a us*less c*mm*nt. Hum*ns know how to adapt to typQgraphic err0rs
How about the 64 differrent ways of spelling "letter"? :)
"Here's a start: Linux needs to tuck the command line under the carpet" ... and loose that case sensitivity. It is the single most annoyance on the command line. What are we going to do when we start talking to computers. And it's gonna happen. How do you tell the difference between "Letter to mom" and "LETTER to Mom" when you speak it.
Yes it is dumb and beside it is just a great big communist plot komrade. They are all made in China and are all rigged to slowly radiate us.
"In 20 or so years people will dying in flocks." he said with tongue in cheek.
Seriously, has there been any studies done on these? We've seen this in the past where something was the greatest thing since sliced bread only to find out it was not. That wonder drug (when I was a kid) women took during pregnancy comes to mind and little babies with just hands and no arms or arms and no hands.
Asbestos, home insulation...
"Hell, sometimes they don't even wait for you to register it. I've gone to do domain checks at GoDaddy for a domain I might want to use, decide to mull it over, and come back the next week to buy it only to find that some company got it and parked an ad site there"
Yes I have seen this too. The name I tried got registered somewhere in Africa then a week later was register in the USA (subsidiary) but to my luck was dropped about 1 month later as I was about to register another. And yes it was for sale for about $18 while it was registered.
Is the registrar doing it or connected? Dunno. Tried a few dummy domains later to test out the theory and they did not end up registered. Fluke?
Why did it get dropped 1 month later. Maybe the scammer used a phony credit card or did not pay the bill?
But the bottom line is it drives in $20 a year. Let's see. How many cases of beer is that. If you had the chance to do it, what would you do? "We clearly need to work harder on our search engines." Agreed on that
Maybe so but the point is still valid. G can censor if it wants to kill your site but they still wear the white hat.
Google is the next Microsoft and will and will probaly become to be hated like M by the yet unborn or just newly born crowd because it will represent the establishment like M does today. IBM was the previous "Big Blue" and they were just as hated in the 80's and 90's when Bill's star was rising and he could do no wrong. Yes, just like Google is idolized today.
G has no competition (a monopoly, sort of) so is not threathened. When a treat will arrive, and it will, those business fangs will come out like Bill's.
But for now enjoy.
Isn't that what MS wants? To hijack the standards (any) and make their own the de facto one? Since the mid to late 80's.
But then there would be nothing to indicate cold=negative.
When you live in the more nothern parts of the world (or southern) it is cold in your winter. It seems now that we spend 4 to 5 months in the NEGATIVE degrees range even though it is warmer then in the 60's, as we all know too well. Mentally you spend all winter in the negative. In the 60's and 70's (or even today) you might spend 2 weeks in January and maybe February in this negative mentally with Fahrenheit. As a humanoid carbon unit, somehow 20 degrees Farenheit seems not as negative as -6.66666667 degrees Celsius. There is supposed to be this mental thing, in the real north, about living in the dark for almost 6 months. The same can be said about negative temperatures. I can just image more north than me. Brrr! 46.04380, -73.11511 You adjust to Celcius of course because your body can relate to outside but... On the positive side, when you drive 60mph you are now doing about 100. YES!
Yes you are correct. I wasn't paying attention.
Hard to say. There is no standard size hockey rink: just a minimum size and maximum size.
Canadian football (not soccer) is still in yards. Like: 4th and 2 (yards) to go. (Yes 4th)
Why should they take a side. Just because I don't use it does not mean no one does. It's the biggest guy out there (by far). Google would be dumb to ignore or poo poo on IE.
Maybe Novell drops all other suits against them? Does anyone know?
Is the WordPerfect one still on? I remember that a while back Novell won big against them. (big is relative)
I think M is making a move to eventually "own" Linux too. It would be just de facto but they could have a leash on enough big Linux distributors. Once they (L) get use to the money steam M would be in a position to apply pressure. If it is done for the benefit of the world some good might come of it but ... ... Well you know!
Remember who loaned Apple 100 million with no strings attached.