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Re:Who needs 64 bits?Still not getting it.Read. In fact, I'll even cut'n'paste the important part.
Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser. However, you can run Flash Player in a 32-bit browser running on a 64-bit operating system.
. Just ask around here about how flash support for 64-bit linux is going. It doesn't NEED to be, but people sure would like it to be supported. Your analogy to video game consoles STILL doesn't apply.
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Re:hilarious
So can you please tell me where I can buy Linux versions of Final Cut Studio, Shake 4, Creative Suite CS, Flix Pro, Sound Studio, Toast, and Sony's XDCAM HD transfer apps please?
I cannot believe that you got modded troll for that. It is true, there are not enough commercial apps available for Linux at the moment. What I wouldn't do for Solidworks on my Ubuntu box!
For Creative Suite, write to these folks:
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/contact.htmlFor Flix, write here:
http://www.on2.com/index.php?373Write to these folks asking about Sound Studio for Linux:
http://www.freeverse.com/support/This is the address for the people responsible for Toast:
http://www.roxio.com/enu/company/contact.htmlAnd the infamous Sony:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/corporate/contacts.aspPlease, don't be shy and WRITE TO THEM! If we don't write and let them know that Linux is a viable OS with a strong user base, then they will never port their software to Linux.
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Re:What is the point?
Why Macs? Well, if you need a lot of power (I do a lot of PhotoShop) you can't get a Windows machine with 8 cores cheaper than you can get a Mac Pro - sorry. It's cheaper to buy the Mac Pro and put Windows on it (even with the cost of that license) than it is to buy an 8-core Windows machine. Go figure!
If only there was some use for all those cores...
Scroll down for graphs of Power Macintosh G5 routinely outperforming Mac Pro in Photoshop:
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/macpro.ars/7Read the text to see why it does not really matter (in most cases) if you have 8 or 2 cores:
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Not really an equal citizen
You still can't enter non-ASCII characters in Linux FP. Absolutely astounding.
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Re:yay competition!
How about fixing acroread too? This problem of 100% CPU usage has been around since Reader 8.1.1 and even presented in 7. One minor release later and no fix in sight. At least the public have come up with a workaround.
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Re:It still obscures drop down menus
It's a browser dependency. The search term you're seeking is "WMODE". Some browsers allow compositing. Others don't. Others are quirky.
Mike Melanson has some info, current as of a few months ago, here:
http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/07/turkish_localization_also_wmod_1.htmlRelease Notes from today seem to say that FF3/Linux is supporting it well, although I'm not certain if that's for all Linux or just most:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/releasenotes.html#features_ocrejd/adobe
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Re:It still obscures drop down menus
It's a browser dependency. The search term you're seeking is "WMODE". Some browsers allow compositing. Others don't. Others are quirky.
Mike Melanson has some info, current as of a few months ago, here:
http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/07/turkish_localization_also_wmod_1.htmlRelease Notes from today seem to say that FF3/Linux is supporting it well, although I'm not certain if that's for all Linux or just most:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/releasenotes.html#features_ocrejd/adobe
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Re:No 64-bit
Why couldn't you just quote it like this:
64-bit support is not just a recompile away. And no, this is not due to treating memory pointers and 32-bit integers interchangeably. There are assorted non-portable pieces that need to be upgraded first, notably the JIT compiler in the virtual machine (transforms ActionScript into native x86_64 code) and the garbage collection engine. Tinic outlined these items in this post.
--penguin.swf (Penguin.SWF tracks development status and issues regarding the Linux version of Adobe's Flash Player)
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And already out of date...
And Flash 10 just came out...
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It still obscures drop down menus
If Linux is now "an Equal Flash Player" then why do Flash elements STILL get rendered above other elements when this problem doesn't exist in Flash 9 for Mac/Windows? Install Flash 10 for Linux, go to the Flash homepage http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/ and hover the mouse over the Home Solutions Products etc menus. See how they are not fully usable because the Flash movie is rendered on top.
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Re:No 64-bit
I hate to disrupt a good theory with references, but What's So Difficult? 64-bit Edition claims the main issue is that rewriting the JIT compiler to emit 64-bit code is non-trivial.
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Re:No deal.
But still not open-source. So if you need it on PPC Linux, or FreeBSD, you are still SOL. Give us the source guys, and we'll maintain it for you. Or if you absolutely cant do that, publish a spec that somebody can use to write compatible player.
Haven't the OSS community said specs is enough? Well, in that case put your money where your mouth is:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf/pdf/swf_file_format_spec_v9.pdf
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flv/pdf/video_file_format_spec_v9.pdf
You are free to develop anything you want from these specs as of last May. That does not include the codecs, but ffmpeg can decode both sorenson and h.264 which are the most important codecs, and probably the rest flash ever used too though I haven't checked out all of them. I look forward to seeing your flash implementation soon. -
Re:No deal.
But still not open-source. So if you need it on PPC Linux, or FreeBSD, you are still SOL. Give us the source guys, and we'll maintain it for you. Or if you absolutely cant do that, publish a spec that somebody can use to write compatible player.
Haven't the OSS community said specs is enough? Well, in that case put your money where your mouth is:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf/pdf/swf_file_format_spec_v9.pdf
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flv/pdf/video_file_format_spec_v9.pdf
You are free to develop anything you want from these specs as of last May. That does not include the codecs, but ffmpeg can decode both sorenson and h.264 which are the most important codecs, and probably the rest flash ever used too though I haven't checked out all of them. I look forward to seeing your flash implementation soon. -
Re: news is already available
Most of the 64-bit work is still in the opensource Tamarin Project. You can still contribute, if you've got the chops.
http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/whats_so_difficult_64bit_editi.html
http://www.kaourantin.net/2006/11/spidermonkeys-relative-tamarin-joins.htmlThe "we'll maintain it for you" line has not particularly been borne out by experience....
;-)jd/adobe
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Some more equal than others...
Looks like they changed it during they beta to require glibc 2.4-based Linux distributions (RHEL 4, CentOS 4, Debian 4 are out) for stack-smashing protection.
Link.
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Re:And what about the embedded version for wii/etc
Flash 10 is supported for Opera on Windows. Not for other Operating Systems, though (apparently).
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Too bad they can't make text input work
Non-ascii text input has been broken forever.
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Re:While I don't like Flash.
The Eclipse plugin for Linux is still in alpha and can be found here:http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flexbuilder_linux.html
The SDK will work in Linux without Eclipse though. -
Re:While I don't like Flash.
Flex Builder from Adobe is based on Eclipse! You can install it as a plugin into an existing Eclipse install, or install the stand-alone version. The open-source Flex SDK and compiler are both free if you don't want to shell out for Flex Builder.
There's FDT, another Eclipse Plugin for Flash/Flex development.
There are also completely open-source options for developing Flash/Flex content, in Eclipse, or the IDE of your choice. Windows, Mac or Linux.
I haven't touched the Flash IDE for the last four years.
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Re:While I don't like Flash.
You can build Flash apps using the Flex SDK in any IDE you want.
Also, Flex Builder from Adobe is based on eclipse.
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Re:Mod this man to Mount Olympus!
Just look at 99% of OSS websites, done by coders who have no idea how to present their software to anyone but other coders--leading to my tip:
* The first page of your application's webpage should explain what the software *IS* and *HOW TO USE IT*, not just provide a long list of your bug-fixes.
Alright, since this topic is about GIMP, let's compare its site against Photoshop:
The first thing on http://gimp.org:
GIMP is the GNU Image Manipulation Program. It is a freely distributed piece of software for such tasks as photo retouching, image composition and image authoring. It works on many operating systems, in many languages.Now http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshop/:
Create powerful images with the professional standard.
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Re:Too bad my flash version isn't compatable
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Re:I just ordered one!!
You browse the web, you check email, maybe design little HTML based websites and that sort of thing.
I also do photography, programming, and other things.
You said "I've had hardware problems within a few months of buying a new PC. You don't buy a new PC, you build one.
I have the skills to add or replace a few things but I do not have the skills to build my own PC. Nor do most people. Nor do I have the ability to diagnose problems, hardware or software. About all I've done, hardware wise is add more ram, a second graphics card, and a second hdd. I have never ever built my own PC. Now I have had to reinstall Windows a bunch of tymes. And installed Linux once, which didn't out well.
Unless you bought a boutique computer, of course you had hardware problems if you bought a Dell or Gateway or something - they use crappy components.
The first PC was a Gateway, which was a big mistake. The other one I had hardware problems with was an HP. The only PC I had, and still have, that I did n't have a problem with is a DEC Alpha I order from Microway. While I didn't have hardware problems with it, because it's CPU's an Alpha I wasn't able to get much software installed. Of all the Windows PCs I've owned or used NT4, which it ran, was the most stable. Heck the first tyme I used XP it froze while booting up. And it was on a brand new Dell the college I was attending had just got.
Here's one thing I'd like you to do: Run HFS+ and install Dreamweaver for webpage design.
Unless HFS is a file system I have no idea what it is. Dreamweaver? I've used Dreamweaver, on both Windows PCs and Macs. I prefer to handcode though, using TextPad on PCs and TextEdit on the Mac. I also used TextPad for Java and Perl.
Install Flash to augment those web pages.
I have the Flash player installed on my Mac. As for creating Flash, though Adobe has Flash for both OS X and Windows, I don't like Flash. Years ago I bought Macromedia Studio which came with Dreamweaver, Flash, Fireworks, and Homesite. The only one of them I used much at all was Dreamweaver. Then again the only reason I used it at all was because I was taking a Dreamweaver class at the tyme. I haven't used since.
Here's another thing: In Mail.app, mark a message as unread from the message list so you can address it later.
Why would I want to do that. I don't even use Mail. When I used Windows I used Eudora and liked it, and so when I switched to Mac I kept using it. The only problem with it is that OS X and Windows does end of line differently. To convert my old email from Eudora for Windows to Eudora for OS X all I have to do is open the messages in TextEdit and do a search and replace. Before making the switch I researched what I needed to do.
Share your HFS+ drive to a Windows box with logon credentials.
Again I don't know what HFS+ is. As for Windows, I don't want to have anything to do with it. I switched because I was sick and tired of having Windows crash, and I don't like spyware or being treated as a criminal. And that's was Activation does.
You can't use a Mac to create websites with Dreamweaver
I have no interest in using Dreamweaver. And Dreamweaver is not the only way to create websites. TextEdit does me fine. However Adobe does have Dreamweaver for OS X.
That vast majority of those using an creation tool use Dreamweaver, yet it doesn't work.
That Dreamweaver class I said I took, we used Macs not PCs. The classes that used PCs used Frontpage. Because it was several years ago when I took the class I just checked Adobe's site to see what the requirements for Dreamweaver is now, and they do have a Mac version, it says specifically "Mac OS X v10.4.11-10.5.4".
What CAD software do you use?
I don't use C
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Re:Information
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_15523 Flash can cover up form buttons, etc. The article suggests disabling all plugins, not Javascript.
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Re:Information
http://blogs.adobe.com/psirt/2008/09/thanks_to_jeremiah_grossman_an.html
I guess they fooled Adobe, tho.
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Re:OWASP
It appears that the speakers pulled the presentation themselves, not the conference (http://blogs.adobe.com/psirt/2008/09/thanks_to_jeremiah_grossman_an.html)
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Re:Bullshit?
Except you're wrong, but don't take my word for it (I run ha.ckers.org with RSnake), see what Adobe has to say.
http://blogs.adobe.com/psirt/2008/09/thanks_to_jeremiah_grossman_an.html
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Premature claim
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Re:no point using a mac
For evreyone else who's too lazy to do a cut and paste,
Behold, HTML
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Re:Adobe's ramping up the 3D
Don't forget Reader and Acrobat 9 http://www.adobe.com/go/kb405218
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Re:Where exactly?
It appears as if the smiley was photoshopped in or out of one of the pictures.
Yes, it appears as if the smiley may have been added to the image using Adobe Photoshop software. Adobe Trademark Use
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Re:Adobe's ramping up the 3D
At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if the Adobe Reader was leveraging the GPU in its next release.
Surprise! GPU acceleration is already in version 8.x
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Re:Pointless
You are running a 32-bit browser on a 64-bit OS.
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Re:"Duplicating functionality"
but nothing free and easy to do something as simple, as, for example, print to PDF
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Re:So?
BECAUSE A BUNCH OF CHILDISH ASSHOLES DECIDE THEY'RE ENTITLED TO MORE SHIT THAN THEY CAN AFFORD.
You're totally viewing the relation of piracy to lost sales incorrectly. I have a pirated copy of Photoshop on my system. The fact that I pirated Photoshop doesn't mean Adobe lost a sale, because I'd never pay the $699 and buy a copy of Photoshop for the the few little photo edits or whatever that I use it for. Adobe doesn't directly use a sale because I'm running pirated Photoshop, because I'll probably never purchase a copy of Photoshop in my lifetime. If I gave a copy to my buddy it's not like he was ready to buy a copy either and I stole Adobe's sale. If I ever couldn't run pirated Photoshop anymore (or if it became much hassle to crack) then I would just use something else. It's a great product but I don't really need it.
If I actually used it enough to justify the cost then I would probably but it to save a lot of hassle. Running pirated copies of software is not as carefree and fun as just making a copy. Most of the time you have to take precautions to keep the software cracked and from re-activating. Often you can't use features, update the software or do all kinds of things with a pirated copy. I've even had people I've given copies to actually buy Photoshop. After using the copy they decided they liked it and had enough usage for it, the cost was worth avoiding the hassle.
People who actually need the Lincoln will buy it from the dealership, get their coverage and full features which the copy Lincoln doesn't have. Maybe there'll be a product recall and suddenly all copy Lincolns will break at some point. People using the copy Lincoln just wanted to get somewhere. The copy Lincoln is nice but they'd be fine with a copy Lada too. They could also decide the copy Lincoln was sweet and buy a real one.
The childish assholes are the companies who claim they're losing money because basically people who can't afford it didn't buy their product. There is some impact from piracy, but it works both ways, and it's not a direct correlation to a sale.
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Adobe Atmosphere
Been there, done that. Got version 1.0 signed by the developers and it was fun while it lasted. http://www.adobe.com/products/atmosphere/
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PDF Reflow
That would be informative if it were actually true.
This may be useful for you:
This is all readily available via a Google search.
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PostScript
Adobe writes really, really good documentation:
http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/ps/sdk/index_archive.htmlEspecially The PostScript Language Tutorial and Cookbook (Blue Book) and PostScript Language Program Design (Green Book)
http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/ps/sdk/sample/index_psbooks.htmlThis is a good article why you should use PostScript: Adobe's PostScript® language, and why "direct" PostScript makes sense
http://www.anastigmatix.net/postscript/direct.htmlAnd don't forget that GhostScript also is an interpreter and interactive developer environment for PostScript. Makes trial and error fun. (The PDF viewer part in GhostScript is written in PostScript, that tell something about the flexibility of the language.)
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PostScript
Adobe writes really, really good documentation:
http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/ps/sdk/index_archive.htmlEspecially The PostScript Language Tutorial and Cookbook (Blue Book) and PostScript Language Program Design (Green Book)
http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/ps/sdk/sample/index_psbooks.htmlThis is a good article why you should use PostScript: Adobe's PostScript® language, and why "direct" PostScript makes sense
http://www.anastigmatix.net/postscript/direct.htmlAnd don't forget that GhostScript also is an interpreter and interactive developer environment for PostScript. Makes trial and error fun. (The PDF viewer part in GhostScript is written in PostScript, that tell something about the flexibility of the language.)
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Re:Flash from source, give me a copy...I used a tar.gz archive...I thought that was source..may be I was wrong. But you can grab a copy here:
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Re:Realism
You can set the privacy level in the flash settings, including not storing cookies and also shared objects, another form of flash cookie-based storage.
How do I turn off/disable shared objects and cookies?
Shared objects, or "Flash cookies," can be cleared or turned off via the Flash Player Settings Manager, an application similar to your browser settings where cookies can be disabled. The Settings Manager lets you delete shared objects and set your shared object preferences (such as your desire to be prompted, permissions, and storage limits) for all websites or only specific ones. Read detailed step-by-step instructions in this TechNote on Disabling Local Shared Objects.
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Re:Flash won't be here soon
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If you plan on running Linux and use Flash...
I would recommend going with the middle option. With Linux flash support just passing at best, the lowest model just hits the minimum requirements as specified by Adobe. http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/systemreqs/ The middle setup with the 1GB of RAM would make this a lot smoother.
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Re:Yay!
Microsoft etc get round that by copyrighting the "font software"
Microsoft does NOT make fonts. They license them from companies like Adobe, ITC, Linotype, Monotype, etc. It is those type foundries companies that make all the fonts you see in magazines, newspapers, etc. And they are the ones demanding DRM to protect their revenue stream.
In the graphic design world, font libraries are a non-trivial cost. When I was IT director for a small newspaper in the 1990s, our font library cost about $25,000, and was licensed per output device.
So, you say, just use "open source" fonts. Well, compare the quality and diversity of the Adobe Type Library with the very small, poorly made, poorly kerned, and disorganized collection of open source fonts available on the web. Good typographers cost money, and Adobe (and others) actually pay those typographers.
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Re:that's it?
and unfortunate i do graphic design, so i use programs like Photoshop, Illustrator, QuarkXpress, etc. on a daily basis, and I also need to make sure that the client's site renders properly in IE (which is arguably the most frustrating part of my job). but i probably should give Ubuntu a try as a secondary OS.
Write to Abode and let them know that you are interested in using their products on Linux. If we don't speak up and let them know what we want, how can we expect them to code it?
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The UK government DOES make that decision
Whilst the summary's nothing more than a troll (as everyone else has said, the ASA isn't a government authority) there is at least one area where it mandates something in this area - website presentation. It's in the "Disability Discrimination Act 1995":
(1) It is unlawful for a provider of services to discriminate against a disabled personâ"
(a) in refusing to provide, or deliberately not providing, to the disabled person any service which he provides, or is prepared to provide, to members of the public;
The link to the text of the law is here:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1995/ukpga_19950050_en_4#pt3-pb1-l1g19It's usually interpreted as forcing web sites to be compatible with screen readers (used by the blind) and high contrast / large character screen modes (used by the partially sighted).
It'd be interesting to see what would happen if someone who relied on a screen reader decided to take a service provider who didn't provide an accessible mode to court. If it meant that more sites had a more easily accessible "just the text, please" mode I'd welcome it.
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Re:XMLHttpRequest aught to be enough for anyone
Flash does NOT work with 64bit Firefox on 64bit Linux, at least last time I checked. It doesn't work on some mobile phones, either.
So AJAX done right will be more widely supported, and completely open, but it takes more effort to develop than Flex apps. OK that's a simple tradeoff if you don't mind vendor lock-in.
You've convinced me to look at the Flex "Hello World" example:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/quickstart/your_first_application/If it is really very much quicker than traditional AJAX development, I might consider the trade-off worth it.
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Re:Clicked on the flash area in NoScript in the de
I think there is some kind of Flash malware distribution scheme going on that tells you that you need to update your Flash player even though you have the latest version. Here's a link to an article on it:
http://blogs.adobe.com/psirt/2008/08/verifying_installers.html I don't know that this is what's happening with you though.I don't think that that's happening either, the Adobe page says it's on social networking sites but the only ones I use or visit are Photo.net,
/., and Yahoo! I rarely visit Facebook, MySpace, YouTube, or others.Falcon
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Re:Clicked on the flash area in NoScript in the de
I think there is some kind of Flash malware distribution scheme going on that tells you that you need to update your Flash player even though you have the latest version. Here's a link to an article on it: http://blogs.adobe.com/psirt/2008/08/verifying_installers.html I don't know that this is what's happening with you though.
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Re:Flash sucks
Many others are experiencing issues. This is one of many threads like this on the Ubuntu forums where people are having serious issue with flash (especially compared to earlier versions (before 9.048). Version 9.112 and beyond (and even Beta) still are really slow, consume a crapload of cpu cycles and are in general unusable.
I've been researching this issue (mainly to get Hulu.com videos playable in fullscreen on a Mythbuntu setup) and have found no recourse other than playing the video at normal size, but using Firefox's zoom or turning on Compiz and using the fullscreen zoom to enlarge the video. Even so the video gets choppy occasionally and of course, is kind of a pain.
Right now full screen videos (using Flash's full screen option) use 90% CPU (out of 2 CPUs on an Athlon 64x2 4800+) and beat to death the poor Sempron 2800 I have on my Mythbuntu setup. Funny enough, the puny Sempron can play HD videos at 1080p with little or no issue.
After following countless threads (and the official bug report on Adobe's website), trying every 9 version and 10 beta, and so on I've pretty much given up on getting Flash to behave for now. Don't get me wrong, I believe you when you say it's playing fine for you, but either the issue is genuinely not affecting your system, or you haven't paid attention to cpu usage while playing flash. As always YMMV.
BTW, any hints not covered in the forums greatly appreciated. Getting fullscreen flash working is the last step in getting a web video based MythTV setup working.