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Re:Comparison of various DVD reencoders
Another high-quality app is DVD Rebuilder (but you need to purchase CinemaCraft Encoder). Here are some guides for it.
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Re:steaming?
Well then, by all means, don't!
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Re:Dear Apple
Actually, recent reporting suggests the industry let Apple drive the price, much to it's later consternation.
I'm not prepared to pay for price for an album to get a few good songs.
Ahh well, I almost only purchase albums that has nearly all quality songs, then the per song pricing bought in an album is more attractive. -
Re:Pre announcementsHeh, Problem is he forgot to do his:
Apple gets 3 times as much money as musicians from each sale. Apple takes a 35% cut from every song and every album sold, a huge amount considering how little they have to do. Record labels receive the other 65% of each sale. Of this, major label artists will end up with only 8 to 14 cents per song, depending on their contract
Sites in the US typically sell tracks for 99 cents each. The wholesale price is currently 65 cents per track
The wholesale price of a track is thought to be around 65c, but the success of Apple's iTunes online music store, which to date has sold more than 200m songs and accounts for some 65% of the download market, has raised the eyebrows of music executives
In the United States, online stores typical sell music downloads for about 99c per track. The wholesale cost of these tracks (that the shops pay) is about 65c."
The majors are asking and getting about 65 cents per download from each 99 cent download from Apple
with Apple paying the record companies an average of 65cents per track...[from a FORTUNE article]
And straight from the FT horse's mouth. (reg required)
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Re:Last time I checked...Apple gets much more than 4c per song. The analysis you are seeing on stock geek websites are showing total operational profits. NOT the margin on the actual song.
Apple gets 3 times as much money as musicians from each sale. Apple takes a 35% cut from every song and every album sold, a huge amount considering how little they have to do. Record labels receive the other 65% of each sale. Of this, major label artists will end up with only 8 to 14 cents per song, depending on their contract
Sites in the US typically sell tracks for 99 cents each. The wholesale price is currently 65 cents per track
The wholesale price of a track is thought to be around 65c, but the success of Apple's iTunes online music store, which to date has sold more than 200m songs and accounts for some 65% of the download market, has raised the eyebrows of music executives
In the United States, online stores typical sell music downloads for about 99c per track. The wholesale cost of these tracks (that the shops pay) is about 65c."
The majors are asking and getting about 65 cents per download from each 99 cent download from Apple
with Apple paying the record companies an average of 65cents per track...[from a FORTUNE article]
And straight from the FT horse's mouth. (reg required)
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Re:Pre announcements"Where did you check?"
Apple gets 3 times as much money as musicians from each sale. Apple takes a 35% cut from every song and every album sold, a huge amount considering how little they have to do. Record labels receive the other 65% of each sale. Of this, major label artists will end up with only 8 to 14 cents per song, depending on their contract
And checked:
Sites in the US typically sell tracks for 99 cents each. The wholesale price is currently 65 cents per track
And Checked again:
The wholesale price of a track is thought to be around 65c, but the success of Apple's iTunes online music store, which to date has sold more than 200m songs and accounts for some 65% of the download market, has raised the eyebrows of music executives
And Checked again:
In the United States, online stores typical sell music downloads for about 99c per track. The wholesale cost of these tracks (that the shops pay) is about 65c."
And Checked again:
The majors are asking and getting about 65 cents per download from each 99 cent download from Apple
And Checked again:
with Apple paying the record companies an average of 65cents per track...[from a FORTUNE article]
And Checked again:
And straight from the FT horse's mouth. (reg required)
"Because the numbers I have (as a shareholder) reveal that margins are closer to 6%"
Then you are not a very astute shareholder. Total operating profits ARE NOT THE SAME as resellers margin. Apple sells their songs at a significant margin. This isn't going to stop them from burning it all on (well recieved) advertising. But it certaintly does not have anything to do with "razor thin" margins. MARGINS are defined based on the cost of a product. PROFITS are defined based on your total revenues and your total costs. There is a HUGE difference here. iTMS is a VERY HIGH MARGIN business. It just so happens that Apple puts nearly every penny they earn off it back into the business in the form of advertising.
Get your facts straight before you go spouting off your BS about being a "shareholder" and your "portfolio" says differently and the "data you have" shows differently. Saying things like this doesn't make you look smarter. Having a Ph.D. doesn't make you look smarter. It just makes other people who read your posts confused because they are reading 2 different things (yours being the wrong one)
"I'll let the Ph.D. and my publications speak to that"
With all due respect, I hope your Ph.D. it is not business, being that you cannot accurately define margin and profit. -
Re:Pre announcements"You never "checked". Apple does not release information on their gross or net profits per song. There has been a credible analyst that puts it at 25c proft, and an analyst in TFA puts it at 4c. Truth is we really don't know."
No, I did check:
Apple gets 3 times as much money as musicians from each sale. Apple takes a 35% cut from every song and every album sold, a huge amount considering how little they have to do. Record labels receive the other 65% of each sale. Of this, major label artists will end up with only 8 to 14 cents per song, depending on their contract
And checked:
Sites in the US typically sell tracks for 99 cents each. The wholesale price is currently 65 cents per track
And Checked again:
The wholesale price of a track is thought to be around 65c, but the success of Apple's iTunes online music store, which to date has sold more than 200m songs and accounts for some 65% of the download market, has raised the eyebrows of music executives
And Checked again:
In the United States, online stores typical sell music downloads for about 99c per track. The wholesale cost of these tracks (that the shops pay) is about 65c."
And Checked again:
The majors are asking and getting about 65 cents per download from each 99 cent download from Apple
And Checked again:
with Apple paying the record companies an average of 65cents per track...[from a FORTUNE article]
And Checked again:
And straight from the FT horse's mouth. (reg required)
Please NOTICE for one second that I never talked about PROFITS. I talked about resellers margins. There is a BIG difference. Apple just happens to spend most of their margins on advertising. If you make a million dollars in a year doing business, but spend a million advertising, then that is a break even. It doesn't mean that you didn't sell something for a million dollars more than you paid for it though! -
The Robots should aim lower
To win, the robots may need to choose weaker enemies.
Perhaps they should take a cue from the RIAA and take on 12-year girls. -
Re:A bit off topic
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Taiyo Yuden
Older discussion: Say Goodbye To Your CD-Rs In Two Years?
afterdawn had a discussion on CD-R brands a while back. In short, go with Taiyo Yuden. And to identify Taiyo Yuden? -
Re:Define "real pirates."
"Any given week I'm sure one fellow sold 20 or 30 CDs at five bucks a pop."
He takes the risk, and will get caught for it eventually, because the greed will overtake common sense. Also there is a different scale of charges to have copywritten material and selling it.
But, for example, I'm mildly interested in how bad 'Battlefield Earth' actually was, so I download it. Watch, cringing, then delete it. There's no outside perceived difference between me and the other guy.
I don't have a problem with that per se, society will level, either by producing a model that can take into account the fact you can feel mugged after leaving a bad movie (especially if you're going to have to sign an NDA not to SMS friends on how bad it was) or by sueing the population into a frenzy of rioting, or something in between. Someone somewhere will always consider me a heathen or evil. Hell, my love for pork chops marks me down for the Taliban. The basic point is I don't care about the game of moral twister that an industry that promotes "Sizzla's" brand of homophobia should squeal about freedom of speech in one breath, then thump the book of the law when they think they're losing out. F*** 'em.
The main problem is that the profits of the companies that are claiming to government that they're hurting are rising pretty steadily. Can you plot a similar line for any other industry on the planet? Again, F*** them.
I have _every_ sympathy for artists that make 70c off their albums. I would personally be honoured to pay the artists direct and get around the advertising budget, A&R, marketing expense accounts and the like. I like the product because I like the product, not because I watch the Saturday rotation, or radio has drilled it into my head. I'm a music fan...my tastes have been honed by nights at home, lucky finds of rarities on market stalls, and swapping...yes...swapping tapes with friends. The music industry cannot _fathom_ or control this level of viral marketing, and you can be sure as damn that there isn't a lot of money in it, but the secondary effect is that the back catalogues of the greats are selling across generations and ARE still selling despite the fact that the industry has _destroyed_ the retail market through greed.
So F*** them in their ear.
"At the call center where last I 9-5'd"
Pay well, did it? A little supplement to the income has greased human evolution since time immemorial, and black markets have been around for quite a while. And nothing scares people like finding out that _everyone_ has dealt with a black market at sometime or another, and the scale of it. The digital content people have found out, and it's scaring them. The majority don't realise that it's been the status-quo since the year dot.
In fact, all of this roughly parallels what happened with the printing press when it arrived, but you don't see anyone shouting that down because some people lost cash. In fact, you could argue that without early print piracy, modern literacy wouldn't be at the stage it is now.
"I would be indignant about the pirates SELLING this stuff"
I am, which is why I would never charge anyone for a copy I made for them of anything. I'm not entirely morally bankrupt, but given the examples of moral behaviour by governments, rich individuals and people around me, I'm not going to be preached at over a couple of CDs, especially given that this is a minority worried about pr -
For non MP3 formats
Streambox VCR, which was sued out of existence by RealNetworks years ago, still works for Real audio and video streams, as well as for Microsoft's streaming formats. Here's a manual for it.
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Re:There is a choice, right?
*BZZZZZZZZZ*
CD Profits are up.
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Re:They already did that in Finland today...
And since the original is a picture of a website,
here a link to the site.
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Meanwhile outside US...
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/5878.cfm Not sure how this site can handle slashdotting so here goes: --- Finnish BitTorrent link site busted 14 December 2004 9:05 by dRD [picture]Finnish authorities have today seized the computers of the administrators of Finnish site Finreactor which was one of the largest sites in Finland listing links to copyrighted materials in BitTorrent network. According to sources, National Bureau of Investigation (Keskusrikospoliisi) raided the admins' homes today and seized all the computer equipment and storage media for further investigation, but released the suspects shortly after the raid. The site itself has been down since early hours of today. Site had over 37,000 registered members and had links to more than 6,000 pirated releases on BitTorrent network. Additionally, the forums of the site boasted a large number of links to releases in other P2P networks, most notably in eDonkey network. Apparently the NBI acted after it received a request from Finnish copyright associations, including the BSA and Teosto (the Finnish equivalent of RIAA). Source: National Bureau of Investigation (link in Finnish)
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What the?
We have a Ken Jennings Post on the front of Slashdot, yet the Lord of The Rings leak get swept under the rug? Blasphamy! http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/5847.cfm
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More info here ..
There is more info here: Afterdawn.com
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Re:Who's being sued?
The RIAA or any plaintiff in a civil action is likely to go after wherever the big money is. In this case, it's the university, not the starving students.
You must not have seen the previous lawsuits. Traditional logic doesn't really apply. They will sue anyone no matter what
This is an organization that doesn't care one bit. You can be 12 or 60. You can be a student. It doesn't matter. They're out to make an example out of people. They don't care what anyone thinks about them and they're not in it for the money. They'd be more than happy to take the $10,000 you have in your bank account.
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We already did.
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Re:net transportNot to mention the many incarnations of Streambox VCR that are floating around. Streambox Ripper will convert the Real Audio to MP3 or WAV.
Matt.
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Re:Further evidence that skinning is stupid
Can anyone recommend a Windows based media player that plays most all formats (mp3, divx, avi, mpeg, whatever), that ISNT some overly feature laden, skinnable piece of Britney candy?
Media Player Classic at SourceForge, Afterdawn, or Divx Digest. -
Re:For a LIMITED TIME only
WHAT HUMAN? Did you read what I wrote?
Yes, I read what you wrote. Although I'm having difficulty understanding how you think that humans can be completely removed from the process. Even if you don't give a musician a support address or phone number, he'll still call the main number with his stupid questions. That will cost Apple even MORE.
A good example of this was when Doom came out. All the shareware magazines stated that it needed "4MB of RAM". Of course, everyone (including myself) was trained to think in terms of "640K + 3 MB EMS/XMS". So, we all did what any good consumer would do. We looked up the Texas number for Id and called them to ask.
Not long after that, shareware magazines started printing "640K + 3M XMS".
This can easily end up a smaller per-song cost than the labels require
It's not as easy as you think. Have you ever tried selling something? It's HARD. Let me whip out some figures here.
According to this link, iTunes currently has 1 million songs available. According to this link, iTunes is selling about 70 million songs per year. That gives an average of 70 sales per song. If we extrapolate based on the 5-10 cent figure I gave above, iTunes is only pulling $3.50-$7.00 "gross profit" on each song. Subtract the costs of getting those songs loaded in the first place, and Apple is dealing in VERY thin margins.
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Re:Any other format?
Quicktime without all the annoying crap -
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/v ideo_players/quicktime_alternative.cfm
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Re:Gonna have to change the format
Only one of a NUMBER of comparisons I have read:
Tuned OGG Vorbis Shines, Lame MP3 still very competitive ... quote: "Atrac3 by the consumer electronic giant Sony was just crushed in this comparison."
From what I have been able to tell, mini-disc players are chosen because the audiophiles are still rather snobbish on MP3/Ogg (rightly so in the case of 128K CBR, but VBR at a high quality gives both formats alot of bragging rights) and/or people who have a very high-end minidisc deck at home and want to use the same media on the road.
If I guess correctly (and I'm not saying I've personally compared minidisc players for quite some time) the playback on the portables is far weaker than the expensive component decks. Since today most are concerned with the portable side as much as the component side, it sounds like ATRAC is losing out.
Plus, think of this ... in alot of cases people will be buying (hopefully) MP3 or AAC files and then having to convert them to ATRAC. Even if raw->ATRAC were superior, you're talking double conversion there and that is never good. -
Re:so what?
Actually a lot of studios no longer release screeners (DVD or VHS) in wide circulation, due to piracy concerns.
A friend of mine was supposed to get Kill Bill Vol. 1 as a screener soon after the release of the film in theaters, but didn't.
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Re:Open Source?
Funny, they are already using gpled and freeware software for their DVD copying software(see third to last post and continue on from there). Wouldn't be surprised if this one contains gpled and freeware programs as well.
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WIPOSadly, government corrupts, and world government corrupts absolutely.
For those of us in the United States, I strongly urge you to look at things like the Free State Project. (http://www.freestateproject.org)This isn't a bunch of wackos looking to move to Montana for another Waco holdout, it's made of people like you who will stand up, be active, and work within New Hampshire (already the best representative State with only 3000 people per Rep, as well as strongly libertarian minded) to reduce the size of government. It's our only hope, because the more they pass nonsense like this, the more you and your neighbors had better stand together...
If p2p becomes a crime, you want your neighbors to defend you when the thoughtcrime police show up. And don't kid yourselves, we are rapidly coming to that.... The day when you click on the wrong download button and the police knock on your door is already here.
Don't own a computer? Get sued by the RIAA
12 years old? Get sued by the RIAA
66 Years old and never used a computer? Yes, Get sued by the RIAA
Now just imagine the force of the WIPO, and 'the law' bolstering this nonsense...
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Re:I Wish
Download Foobar 2000. If you want an mp3 player to work while playing video games than this is it. On my 2400 it is running at 2-5% while winamp runs from 4-90+% which royally fucks me playing shooters.
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Re:OK, how do I use this with Adobe Premiere?I say ditch adobe premiere
Save the raw, uncompressed video, and have virtualdub do the compression. Its way more powerful in terms of what it can do.
If you don't know how to use virtualdub, check out this guide. It's a detailed guide on how to convert a dvd to avi, and it has one of the best intros to using virtualdub (i use it to teach newbies how to use virtualdub). Just select the xvid codec instead of divx.
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Re:Cam?
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Re:Cam?
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Re:Divx only?
Get ffdshow
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Re:Divx only?
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Re:Broadband Tax?I thought that Canadians paid a "broadband tax" to cover the cost of "pirating"
You might be thinking of a case currently being heard by the Supreme Court regarding potential royalties to be paid by ISPs for music distributed over the internet.
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Re:Good.
It wouldn't surprise me if there was some kind of coating you could put on the disc, such as spray adhesive, that would keep it from degrading but still allow it to play.
There's nothing stopping you from ripping it and burning it to DVD-R. Even a dual-layer DVD can be copied if you're willing to accept some (usually negligible) quality loss. (I've heard occasional references to a dual-layer DVD-R being in the works...that would allow a 1:1 copy of any DVD. Here's info on a demo Pioneer did at this year's CES with a DVR-A06 and some tweaked firmware.)
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Telecine
The problem is that your television and your Super-8 use different number of frames per second. (c. 30 vs 24)
Consequently getting a good copy to tape is not easy. Before video, TV stations used a telecine machine, which coverted 16mm film to video.
Finding someone to do it with 8mm is even tougher since the number of people filming on the format has stabilized at oh a couple thousand.
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Kiss +RW goodbye
Well too bad for those who will get stuck with those +RW drives. I predict the demise of +RW in favor of -RW. Why? Well, first of all -RW has greater compatibility. Of course, this is not enough. You must also consider the looming blue laser DVD format rolling out. As with everything, there are two standards-
The Blu-Ray standard is being put forth by Hitachi, LG Electronics, Matsushita Electric Industrial (aka Panasonic), Pioneer, Royal Philips Electronics, Samsung, Sharp, Sony and Thomson Multimedia. Blu-Ray will write and rewrite 27GB per side using a 405nm laser.
NEC and Toshiba put forth their own standard, Advanced Optical Disc,which the DVD Forum has chosen over Blu-Ray. These hold 20GB per side.
I am seeing a lot of conflicting information about whether those numbers are for single layer or not. The people reporting these numbers don't seem to know that a single side has two layers, so I'm reading that AOD can hold anywhere from 20 to 40GB per side. However the consensus seems to be that AOD holds less data than Blu-Ray can, but the advantage of AOD lies in the fact that DVD manufacturers don't have to retool their plants for AOD like they would for Blu-Ray. This is probably one of the larger reasons AOD was accepted by the DVD Forum.
Ok, now after all this babble about next gen DVD, what does this have to do with the subject at hand?
NEITHER of these standards is compatible with DVD+R, and both are backwards compatible with DVD-R. So where are you going to put your data? -
Re:How are the media companies losers
It costs next to nothing to stamp out a DVD.
I am so torn about this. On the one hand, I love my cheap CD-Rs and DVD-Rs. But I hate how fragile they are and how there's no consensus on how to properly label them. Not to mention the hours I spend on Afterdawn trying to figure out what the best *-R discs are...muttering about polycarbonate the whole time.
So one solution would be to put the discs in a caddy, which would drive up the price. But then I wouldn't have to worry about...anything short of stepping on them. Is Magneto Optical the answer?
So anyway, my point is when I see the headline "Tech Titans Prepare to Battle Over Next DVD Format"--all I can do is cringe because I can pretty much bet on caddy-less media. Why? My tin foil hat says: because the RIAA/MPAA makes more money every time your favorite disc gets scratched and you have to buy a new one. -
Video Codec Appears To Be VP5 & VP6
I looked into this a bit. Apparently Chinese manufacturers are starting to balk at the ~$350M going out to Japanese DVD patent holders, and the government is listening.
Remember -- fifty years ago, Japan tried to colonize Southeast Asia. Southeast Asia is still pissed.
Anyway, the video codec appears to be On2's VP5 and VP6 -- which, being much newer codecs than MPEG-2, support HDTV resolutions and DVD bitrates -- supposedly with quality as good, if not better, than Microsoft's solution. (Caveat: I was not impressed with VP3, the algorithm open sources by On2 and being tweaked heavily into Ogg Theora.) Not said is what's being used for the audio codec. While audio compression and video compression are two very different things, it's problematic when the two are grown utterly separate from one another. DVD has this problem -- MPEG-2 and AC3 (Dolby Digital) have slightly different frame sizes, making it much more awkward to edit accurately.
Yours Truly,
Dan Kaminsky
DoxPara Research
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Re:Academy Awards?
Isn't it normal practice to copy films and distribute them to the people who vote in the Academy Awards and similar Hollywood fluffer events? Normally the movies under consideration for these awards haven't had formal DVD releases, so the copies are one-off DVDs specifically for reviewers.
Been asleep for a while, have we? The MPAA mandated that Academy screeners be banned, and anyone who distributes screeners shall be immediately forfeit of Academy consideration.
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Re:DTV Internet distribution is already very unlik
Maybe not, but that 17GB HD capture will sure make a tasty DivX...
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Re:Top ten Windows apps to install.For the media, I suggest something like IrfanView. There is also a Media Player Classic which you might like to look at; in fact, whereas Windows 9x comes with mplayer2.exe which is the good old MediaPlayer (as opposed to the WMP hog), the Windows NT series (NT, 2K, XP) does not, so this is the perfect replacement. Oh, and possibly have a look at BSPlayer too (for video only) I would also like to add the following items to the list of needed software (under Windows):
- The Bat! mail client (shareware)
- Opera browser/mail/newsclient (adware), much more lightweight than Mozilla
- 40tude Dialog newsclient
- Total Commander file manager (shareware)
- eMule peer-to-peer client (open source)
- ViM
- editor (open source)
- GhostScript and GSView for PostScript and PDF rendering/conversion/manipulation (open source)
- ActivePerl, ActivePython, ActiveTcl for scripting
- 7-zip packer
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Re:CDRTools Windows
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Re:RIAA Says...
It cool that P2P United is actually paying the bill.
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Re:From the FAQ, music and software theftSee also:
European Commission: downloading pirated material should be legal
However, the law is still seen as overly restrictive by many:
The Draft IP Enforcement Directive - A Threat To Competition And Liberty
Group warns of Europe's 'DMCA on steroids'
... and this was also discussed in an earlier Slashdot post:
Sweden to outlaw peer-to-peer file swapping
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Re:From the FAQ, music and software theftSee also:
European Commission: downloading pirated material should be legal
However, the law is still seen as overly restrictive by many:
The Draft IP Enforcement Directive - A Threat To Competition And Liberty
Group warns of Europe's 'DMCA on steroids'
... and this was also discussed in an earlier Slashdot post:
Sweden to outlaw peer-to-peer file swapping
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Re:a shame then"I though working with DVs ~215MB/min was bad enough... less than five minutes of footage per gig! Aaargh! High Density resolution is going to murder hard disks!
;)"Why aren't you capturing into HuffYUV compressed video? It's lossless and open source.
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Re:Slashdot and the RIIA
Also, if you buy a CVD and expect it work in your DVD player, then tough luck.
"C" and "D" are next to each other on the keyboard, and any reasonable person should be able to figure out it was a typo.
Umm...CVD is the name of a disc-based video format, different from VCD, SVCD, and DVD. It's most similar to SVCD, but its 352-pixel horizontal resolution (vs. 480 for SVCD) is DVD-compatible. (You can rip the video from a CVD and author it to DVD without reencoding.)
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Re:MPAA
MPAA should be US-only problem.
When the easy group last did something the content industry disliked, they got slapped down - not by RIAA, but by The BPI (The British Phonographic Industry). Presumably at RIAA's behest.
I'm sure there's an MPAA equivilant in the UK, and I'm sure Chemical Valenti will just give them a call.
[because they're US only] MPAA should not have ANY say in the matter
I agree. But I suspect they think they've already got the right to go into Europe.
Look at the US content industry's attacks on Australians and lets not forget DVD Jon